NFC East Draft Picks

[Hostile]

New York Giants


#32. David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech

#63. Reuben Randle, WR, LSU

#94. Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech

#127. Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati

#131. Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn (Compensatory)

#201. Matt McCants, OT, Alabama-Birmingham

#239. Markus Kuhn, DT, North Carolina State

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Philadelphia Eagles

#12. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State (From Seahawks)

#15. (Traded to Seahawks)

#46. Mychal Kendricks, LB, California

#51. (Traded to Packers through Cardinals)

#59. Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall (From Packers)

#88. Nick Foles, QB, Arizona (From Texans)

#114. (Traded to Seahawks)

#123. Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia (From Packers)

#153. Dennis Kelly, OT, Purdue

#172. (Traded to Seahawks through Colts)

#194. Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa (From Broncos)

#200. Brandon Washington, OG, Miami (From Patriots)

#229. Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas State (From Falcons)

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Washington Redskins


#2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor (From Rams)

#69. (Traded to Bills)

#71. Josh LeRibeus, OG, SMU (From Bills)

#102. Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State

#109. (Traded to Steelers through Raiders)

#119. Keenan Robinson, LB, Texas (From Steelers)

#141. Adam Gettis, OG, Iowa

#173. Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic (From Vikings)

#193. Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota (From Steelers)

#213. Richard Crawford, DB, SMU

#217. Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa (From Bills)

[SDogo]

Let me be the first to say, GET IT DONE DALLAS!

Seriously, I look forward to seeing who our future Cowboys are. I know there is going to be great debate and borderline insanity to when some of these picks are announced but I hope we all can at least if we don't agree with the picks= we do agree they prove to be long time ROH nominees.

[jobberone]

Let the show begin.

[GroundUp]

Let's get it!

[rash]

Might as well pencil in RG3 in place of that number 2 pick listed for Washington.

Man I really like the way he plays; I wish he was on any team besides Washington so I could kinda root for him or draft him on my fantasy team :mad:.

[Fredd]

Fredd = :popcorn:

[CCBoy]

....an early, Championship!!:laugh2: :starspin

[muck4doo]

Might as well pencil in RG3 in place of that number 2 pick listed for Washington.

Man I really like the way he plays; I wish he was on any team besides Washington so I could kinda root for him or draft him on my fantasy team :mad:.

I'm in that boat too.

[WVSkinsfan]

Rash and Muck there still time for you to be a Skins fan then you could root for RG3.;)

[silverbear]

Rash and Muck there still time for you to be a Skins fan then you could root for RG3.;)

Yeah, they could do that, but they might be scared off by that mandatory lobotomy...

[WV Cowboy]

Rash and Muck there still time for you to be a Skins fan then you could root for RG3.;)

Where in WV do you live?

[NeonDeion21]

Not a big fan of Wilson for the Giants. Bradshaw is a good player and there are some really talented backs in the 3rd-4th rounds.

[CowboyChris]

i kept hearing the Giants were having a great draft, i dont see anything special about it, Wilson isnt bad, the rest are so-so.

Eagles certainly helped themselves on defense. probably had the best draft in the division.

I cant understand Washington, they paid a kings ransom to move up for RG3, but to turn around and take another QB 2 picks later? what was that all about?

As for us, i was suprised that we actually traded up for a blue chipper for once, instead of trading down for lesser talent, and we got a bargain at that, im dissapointed with our 4th round selections. at this point i can only see one starter out of this draft.

[AmishGangsta]

I cant understand Washington, they paid a kings ransom to move up for RG3, but to turn around and take another QB 2 picks later? what was that all about?

I think the answer is in your own post :) Value. They could try to trade him for a pick in the future.

[CowboyChris]

I think the answer is in your own post :) Value. They could try to trade him for a pick in the future.

teams that do that are usually teams that are winning and contending every year, ie Packers, Eagles, etc etc, the Redskins, who have a limited amount of draft picks, should be more focused on aquiring some talent for their team. they spent a 3rd rounder on him, at best a break even deal??

i was little suprised that Denver took a QB in the 2nd round after investing 96 million in Manning, but i can see some logic there, cause there is some health concerns with Manning. i still wouldnt have made that pick if i were Denver. at least not my 2nd rounder.

[AmishGangsta]

teams that do that are usually teams that are winning and contending every year, ie Packers, Eagles, etc etc, the Redskins, who have a limited amount of draft picks, should be more focused on aquiring some talent for their team. they spent a 3rd rounder on him, at best a break even deal??

i was little suprised that Denver took a QB in the 2nd round after investing 96 million in Manning, but i can see some logic there, cause there is some health concerns with Manning. i still wouldnt have made that pick if i were Denver. at least not my 2nd rounder.

The Redskins FO think they will be contending. We shall see.

Yeah, it was definitely not a popular pick. Neither was the RB. The OL however, have a chance to start.

[AmishGangsta]

This time last year, people wondered why they passed on Gabbert. I don't think he is going to be any good.

I think the QB the Skins are going to regret not trading up for (and many will probably laugh at this) is Jake Locker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPlx_7ZWBAY).

[Afigueroa22]

This time last year, people wondered why they passed on Gabbert. I don't think he is going to be any good.

I think the QB the Skins are going to regret not trading up for (and many will probably laugh at this) is Jake Locker.


You like Locker better than Griffin? I do think the Titans got a steal with Locker, he had one bad year and people jumped off his train. Philip Rivers was horrible last season but we all know he goes top 5 in every draft since he was actually drafted.

[AmishGangsta]

You like Locker better than Griffin? I do think the Titans got a steal with Locker, he had one bad year and people jumped off his train. Philip Rivers was horrible last season but we all know he goes top 5 in every draft since he was actually drafted.

I like RG3 better. I should have added "if Griffin doesn't work out".

Nah, I think that kid is a rare breed (Griffin).

[Afigueroa22]

I like RG3 better. I should have added "if Griffin doesn't work out".

Nah, I think that kid is a rare breed (Griffin).

I like Griffin too but he looks kind of fragile. What if D.Ware rips his arm off? :)
All joking aside I am excited for the competition in years to come.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I cant understand Washington, they paid a kings ransom to move up for RG3, but to turn around and take another QB 2 picks later? what was that all about?

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Cousins is a 4th rounder

And do not forget what your franchise did in 1989, after taking Aikman number 1 overall, took Walsh with the 1st pick in the supplemental draft that year, which turned out to be the number 1 pick in the 1990 draft.

Cousins is hopefully a term life insurance policy that Shanny can sell in 2 years for some decent picks

[AmishGangsta]

I like Griffin too but he looks kind of fragile. What if D.Ware rips his arm off? :)
All joking aside I am excited for the competition in years to come.

Well, if he gets hurt, Cousins will come in and likely do a decent job.

That was Shanahan's reason for drafting him: Depth and "in case of injury".

They like competition. They even brought in competition for Mr Haslett--ie Raheem Morris.

[BraveHeartFan]

Cousins is a 4th rounder

And do not forget what your franchise did in 1989, after taking Aikman number 1 overall, took Walsh with the 1st pick in the supplemental draft that year, which turned out to be the number 1 pick in the 1990 draft.

Cousins is hopefully a term life insurance policy that Shanny can sell in 2 years for some decent picks


Dont forget that Dallas got very lucky that the Saints were stupid and gave up way to much for Walsh and bailed Jimmy out on really stupid decision.

Picking Walsh like that wasn't smart because it caused doubt for Aikman that Jimmy trusted him and that Aikman was really his guy.

That's been talked about many times. In fact I've read where Jimmy Johnson once told Brad Sham that he was seriously considering starting Steve Walsh and Brad told him that the Cowboys fans would run him out of town if he did. Something to that effect. I'd have to look it up where i read it again.

That wasn't the best decision on Jimmy's part but thankfully he was able to rectify it latter and basically stole from the Saints.


I don't see to many teams out there who are stupid enough to fall for deals like that anymore.

[CowboyChris]

The Redskins FO think they will be contending. We shall see.

Yeah, it was definitely not a popular pick. Neither was the RB. The OL however, have a chance to start.

Every F.O. believes they will be contending. but no matter how your F.O. spins it, imo this is a very controversial pick, what kind of signal does that send? you almost have an instant QB controversy on your hands...just my 2 cents.

The Colts took Luck and followed it with Fleener, a nice weapon for him, I think the Skins shouldve done something similar.

[AmishGangsta]

Every F.O. believes they will be contending. but no matter how your F.O. spins it, imo this is a very controversial pick, what kind of signal does that send? you almost have an instant QB controversy on your hands...just my 2 cents.

The Colts took Luck and followed it with Fleener, a nice weapon for him, I think the Skins shouldve done something similar.

I hear you man, not really ecstatic about the move, but if the move bothers RG3 then perhaps we got the wrong guy.

[Yuma Cactus]

RGIII IMO is a little too worried with style both on and off the field. Watch when he throws he kinda poses and snaps his arm back. If things go bad early could be catastrophic. And like someone else wrote he looks fragile even though he measures big.

And I sure hope he is the biggest bust since Mt Rushmore.

[AmishGangsta]

RGIII IMO is a little too worried with style both on and off the field. Watch when he throws he kinda poses and snaps his arm back. If things go bad early could be catastrophic.

Hmm, I guess that is something the Allen/Shanahan missed...
sounds pretty similar to what some of the unnamed scouts (from Cleveland) are saying:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/19/unnamed-scouts-offer-belated-criticism-of-rg3/

[AmishGangsta]

Rg3 could be spending that time he spends picking out socks, on learning the playbook.
We do seem to get the freaks (Riggins, Hogs, Hogettes, Portis, Fun Bunch etc..).

[hipfake08]

Looking over the players selected.
Washington - one great pick and the rest were - :huh:
Giants - three solid pick on top then filled the roster types.
Philadelphia - had quality picks the entire draft.

[CowboyChris]

I hear you man, not really ecstatic about the move, but if the move bothers RG3 then perhaps we got the wrong guy.

personally i like RG3, and think he will become a great QB, maybe even better than Luck, but i wouldnt have put him in that situation, back when jimmy johnson had Aikman we took Steve Walsh also, call it competition or whatever but it did turn out nicely for us.

[AmishGangsta]

personally i like RG3, and think he will become a great QB, maybe even better than Luck, but i wouldnt have put him in that situation, back when jimmy johnson had Aikman we took Steve Walsh also, call it competition or whatever but it did turn out nicely for us.

Just imagine if Cousins has one good preseason game, and Griffin comes out struggling in one of them. I am sure some people are going to make a big deal out of it.

[newlander]

Just imagine if Cousins has one good preseason game, and Griffin comes out struggling in one of them. I am sure some people are going to make a big deal out of it.


....they've set themselves up for a MESS in DC: I mean, Grossman is a damn good backup IMO: vet, pretty good but not good enough to start and they draft Cousins too? Yeah, RG3 has had injuries but the Cousins pick is mystifying to me. Of course McShay loved it: he's a know nothing IMO

[AmishGangsta]

....they've set themselves up for a MESS in DC: I mean, Grossman is a damn good backup IMO: vet, pretty good but not good enough to start and they draft Cousins too? Yeah, RG3 has had injuries but the Cousins pick is mystifying to me. Of course McShay loved it: he's a know nothing IMO

That is a good problem to have. If Grossman didn't turn the ball over so much, he wouldn't be a bad qb at all. He actually does very well in medium passing game. He likely has better stats than most of the qbs we have had in DC over the years. Of course, I think most of that is the system though.

[AmishGangsta]

Of course McShay loved it: he's a know nothing IMO

He is probably the only one that loved that move specifically. Overall, they were graded pretty well. Besides Griffin, it was not a star studded draft, but they did come away with some big uglys.
Think I read something the other day that, Skins drafted more players in the last two years, than they have in any two years since the drafts inception. 21 picks overall.

[CowboyChris]

Just imagine if Cousins has one good preseason game, and Griffin comes out struggling in one of them. I am sure some people are going to make a big deal out of it.

i think its gonna come down to how Shanahan uses RG3, is he gonna build around his strengths? one thing i like about Shanny is... he does like to run the ball, and that is a QB's best friend.

[AmishGangsta]

i think its gonna come down to how Shanahan uses RG3, is he gonna build around his strengths? one thing i like about Shanny is... he does like to run the ball, and that is a QB's best friend.

Can easily see why he has success with runningbacks. Drafts late rounders and basically has them running for their careers. As soon as they want the big pay check, he trades them and drafts more.

Last year they took a lot of criticism for trading up and taking Helu (a rb who nobody wanted apparently) and then drafting Royster (a guy who was nothing special). This year they draft another RB, and he is right up their alley. 1 cut style runner, and has a knock for making tacklers miss.

[Califan007]

Can easily see why he has success with runningbacks. Drafts late rounders and basically has them running for their careers. As soon as they want the big pay check, he trades them and drafts more.

Last year they took a lot of criticism for trading up and taking Helu (a rb who nobody wanted apparently) and then drafting Royster (a guy who was nothing special). This year they draft another RB, and he is right up their alley. 1 cut style runner, and has a knock for making tacklers miss.
Not making them miss but rather breaking their tackles...the guy looked like he got a ton of yardage after contact.

[SkinsHokieFan]

....they've set themselves up for a MESS in DC: I mean, Grossman is a damn good backup IMO: vet, pretty good but not good enough to start and they draft Cousins too? Yeah, RG3 has had injuries but the Cousins pick is mystifying to me. Of course McShay loved it: he's a know nothing IMO

Cousins is a 4th rounder. A 3rd day pick. Long term development backup QB

The talk of any controversy over this is pretty absurd. RG3 is 10 times the QB Cousins, however Cousins will be a nice long term insurance policy.

After 20 years of piss poor QB play and terrible backups I am glad the team finally addressed the most important position on the field with real depth.

Hopefully this turns into a Matt Schuab/Kevin Kolb type move in 2-3 years

[cowboy_ron]

i think its gonna come down to how Shanahan uses RG3, is he gonna build around his strengths? one thing i like about Shanny is... he does like to run the ball, and that is a QB's best friend.
As long as your QB is also not your leading rusher

[interestedobserver]

i kept hearing the Giants were having a great draft, i dont see anything special about it, Wilson isnt bad, the rest are so-so.

Eagles certainly helped themselves on defense. probably had the best draft in the division.

I cant understand Washington, they paid a kings ransom to move up for RG3, but to turn around and take another QB 2 picks later? what was that all about?

As for us, i was suprised that we actually traded up for a blue chipper for once, instead of trading down for lesser talent, and we got a bargain at that, im dissapointed with our 4th round selections. at this point i can only see one starter out of this draft.


I keep hearing the opposite. Wilson is a good athlete, yet raw and was a reach for the first round. After that, they got pretty good value considering where they were drafting.

[AmishGangsta]

I keep hearing the opposite. Wilson is a good athlete, yet raw and was a reach for the first round. After that, they got pretty good value considering where they were drafting.

Depends whos review you get a hold of :) ...and just because a million flies eat *&^% doesn't mean it's right.

Is it wrong of me to fear Philly and Dallas more than the Super Bowl Champions? Every year I feel the Giants are about to implode and then they get hot in the playoffs and win another championship.

I think people are usually a year or two off with their predictions (examples: Lions and Cardinals being sleepers every year before finally getting good, sanfran being considered a contender two years ago--before finally becoming one, and then Philly getting a dominant defense/secondary and being considered a dream team last year...).

I look for Philly to be the team to beat this year, and it looks like they had another solid draft.

[StylisticS]

Just imagine if Cousins has one good preseason game, and Griffin comes out struggling in one of them. I am sure some people are going to make a big deal out of it.
I doubt that. Unless Cousins outperforms him the entire post season but than again...I still doubt it.

[HoosierCowboy]

personally i like RG3, and think he will become a great QB, maybe even better than Luck, but i wouldnt have put him in that situation, back when jimmy johnson had Aikman we took Steve Walsh also, call it competition or whatever but it did turn out nicely for us.

picking Walsh was a very stupid and wasted pick by Johnson--of course that had to be Jones' pick since it was a very bad one

[slaga]

I doubt that. Unless Cousins outperforms him the entire post season but than again...I still doubt it.So you think the Skins are going to make it to the post season? :D

[ravidubey]

Based on what we as fans know and the resources we have access to, Philadelphia just flat out nailed this draft.

I have to keep checking to see if they somehow had more picks than they really did.

Their last three picks are impressive. It's ridiculous.

[Risen Star]

After digesting it for a while I'd rank it like this....

1. Philadelphia - Love the Cox, Curry, Boykin and Washington selections.

2. Dallas - It might seem odd since I've lambasted our approach but I didn't think much of the other two teams. Crawford, Wilber and Coale are intriguing picks. Who the heck knows about Matt Johnson? A reach but maybe worth it with his skill set.

3. N.Y. Giants - People love to just assume they had a great draft. I don't see it. I love the Randle pick but not much else. Mosley's worth keeping an eye on.

4. Washington - This could be a turning point for the franchise if they're right on the QB. They also added a couple of nice OL late, but I just can't like a class that has cost you two future 1st rounders.

[Zaxor]

After digesting it for a while I'd rank it like this....

1. Philadelphia - Love the Cox, Curry, Boykin and Washington selections.

2. Dallas - It might seem odd since I've lambasted our approach but I didn't think much of the other two teams. Crawford, Wilber and Coale are intriguing picks. Who the heck knows about Matt Johnson? A reach but maybe worth it with his skill set.

3. N.Y. Giants - People love to just assume they had a great draft. I don't see it. I love the Randle pick but not much else. Mosley's worth keeping an eye on.

4. Washington - This could be a turning point for the franchise if they're right on the QB. They also added a couple of nice OL late, but I just can't like a class that has cost you two future 1st rounders.

I think that is a pretty accurate analysis however I am not at all as high on Cox as many others are...I think he has a real problem with holding his ground and he seems a bit too passive at times to me... I am admittedly a homer and would probably give Dallas the edge but I can see the argument for Philly. All in all I believe all the teams helped themselves.

The Giants last year did not get much help from austin or prince due to injuries so they may be better than before just from having last years picks being able to play.

Washington has had a stout defense for a few years now but their offense has been less than stellar. I expect that to change now having RGIII allows shanny to run the backside boot that he loves so much and with RGIII's speed he could be lethal just running it and the stretch play 80% of the time... throw in a few pass plays to keep the safeties and corners honest and I can see a much improved team.

Philly looks beastly but I still am not sure their secondary problems are solved and the loss of a LT is always hard on a team..if they got those fixed they have to be the division favorites

Dallas is a team on the come..I think any team that plays Dallas has to bring their "A" game now or they won't have a chance to win.

[canters]

I agree that Dallas is heading in the right direction,,,two years in to the rehab and maybe two more to go. If we can find a replacement for Romo at the end of the next two years, say the in 2014 draft, we could be set for a long run of success and playoff appearances.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, IF RG3 is the real deal and plays well this year, the "Skins will be in every game and could win 7-9 games. Their D is that good.

If Vick plays in 12 to 13 games ( you never know about his health ), the Eagels could win 9-11 games.

The Gmen will underachieve through much of the 2012 season and could miss the playoffs, or win 10-11 games.

IF we can keep Romo protected, and the D progresses greatly from last year, we could compete in every game and win 8-11 games.

The NFC east is tougher than ever, and we have a killer schedule, but so does the rest of the division.

We could win the whole thing, or finish last in the NFC east. Can't wait for the season to start!