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Sonny Koufax
04-22-2012, 05:52 PM
Matt Mosley ‏ @mattmosley
Hearing some big-time draft rumblings from Valley Ranch here in the UK. I'll share some of this in a Fox exclusive. Think DeCastro.

MichaelWinicki
04-22-2012, 05:53 PM
Matt Mosley ‏ @mattmosley
Hearing some big-time draft rumblings from Valley Ranch here in the UK. I'll share some of this in a Fox exclusive. Think DeCastro.

I'd love to see the defense get some help but DeCastro, if available and drafted, would be a great addition.

StarMan
04-22-2012, 05:54 PM
Man I hope so!

Hostile
04-22-2012, 05:55 PM
Suddenly my draft hopes feel doomed.

a_minimalist
04-22-2012, 05:55 PM
:mchammer:

Muhast
04-22-2012, 05:57 PM
When is he planning his fox exclusive?

StarMan
04-22-2012, 06:00 PM
Isn't Mosley usually right in predicting who we draft?

lkelly
04-22-2012, 06:00 PM
In the past, I believe the draft rumblings were coming from Wade's stomach. Now, not so sure.

Sonny Koufax
04-22-2012, 06:04 PM
Suddenly my draft hopes feel doomed.

Wasn't Mosley the one that called our pick last year, before backing out at the last minute?
Don't give up hope Hos!

mickswag
04-22-2012, 06:06 PM
Wasn't Mosley the one that called our pick last year, before backing out at the last minute?
Don't give up hope Hos!

Mosley said we'd take JJ Watt last year and said we would not take Smith.

Here's the link to an article about him talking about Smith:

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2011/4/18/2118614/nfl-draft-2011-cowboys-will-not-pick-tyron-smith-says-matt-mosley

Bluestang
04-22-2012, 06:07 PM
Mosley tweeted, around this same time last year, that the team had cooled on Tyron Smith and wanted J.J. Watt.

With him you can never put your finger on what VR is really thinking.

StarMan
04-22-2012, 06:09 PM
Mosley said we'd take JJ Watt last year and said we would not take Smith.

Here's the link to an article about him talking about Smith:

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2011/4/18/2118614/nfl-draft-2011-cowboys-will-not-pick-tyron-smith-says-matt-mosley

That's right I forgot about that. I do remember he got the Anthony Spencer pick right.

cowboyjoe
04-22-2012, 06:11 PM
Suddenly my draft hopes feel doomed.

But, But you said you wanted DeCastro for OG, Why are your hoped doomed? :)

AmishCowboy
04-22-2012, 06:14 PM
What's Mosley doing in the UK?

Bowdown27
04-22-2012, 06:18 PM
whoever mosley says we're taking think the opposite.

Dcowboy84
04-22-2012, 06:18 PM
What's Mosley doing in the UK?

Probably covering the only sport he's qualified to cover...the "other" football

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 06:19 PM
After having watched the OL struggle for an entire season and having only switched the tackles and added Livings (Bernadette is practically unknown), I don't see how anyone can feel confident that the OL is much better off.

Even under the assumption that Free picks up at RT where he left off, that still leaves 3 positions on the OL that are shaky.

Although I have started to warm on Livings after watching the season opener against Cleveland last year (I'm tempering my excitement because it is only one game), I'm still not convinced the OL has been address adequately.

If Dallas gets DeCastro and somehow gets better play from the C position, whoever that might be, I think people will **** a brick at how well the offense performs.

burmafrd
04-22-2012, 06:23 PM
too early for Mosely to be completely wrong. If this was Tuesday.....

a_minimalist
04-22-2012, 06:23 PM
maybe he's creating a distraction so we can land barron and no one moves ahead ;)

junk
04-22-2012, 06:33 PM
After having watched the OL struggle for an entire season and having only switched the tackles and added Livings (Bernadette is practically unknown), I don't see how anyone can feel confident that the OL is much better off.

Even under the assumption that Free picks up at RT where he left off, that still leaves 3 positions on the OL that are shaky.

Although I have started to warm on Livings after watching the season opener against Cleveland last year (I'm tempering my excitement because it is only one game), I'm still not convinced the OL has been address adequately.

If Dallas gets DeCastro and somehow gets better play from the C position, whoever that might be, I think people will **** a brick at how well the offense performs.

I'd love to see some upgrades on the OL, but the offense has some other issues too.

I don't know who fills that third WR role right now. I'm not confident in Dez and Miles to make it through a season injury free either. WR depth is pretty decent in this draft, so hopefully they come away with one. I like Broyles, McNutt, Fuller, Hilton and Toon.

Murray is a big piece too. Can he stay healthy? Can he continue to produce during that short, incredible stretch?

Having a running game that can produce in the RZ and control the clock will do a lot for this team though.

SDogo
04-22-2012, 06:34 PM
But, But you said you wanted DeCastro for OG, Why are your hoped doomed? :)

Because Mosley predicting it is the kiss of death.

Deep_Freeze
04-22-2012, 06:37 PM
I'd love to see some upgrades on the OL, but the offense has some other issues too.

I don't know who fills that third WR role right now. I'm not confident in Dez and Miles to make it through a season injury free either. WR depth is pretty decent in this draft, so hopefully they come away with one. I like Broyles, McNutt, Fuller, Hilton and Toon.

Murray is a big piece too. Can he stay healthy? Can he continue to produce during that short, incredible stretch?

Having a running game that can produce in the RZ and control the clock will do a lot for this team though.

With this plan, we better hope we have the ball last in every game though cause the D will stink again.

CoCo
04-22-2012, 06:39 PM
It's all fun. But it's all very predictable as well. Information and misinformation alike is flowing strong down the home stretch just like previous years.

No one knows for sure because no one knows for sure what will happen at picks 3, 4, 5 etc. So much of what Dallas will do is influenced by what other teams do in front of them and what teams behind them want to do as a result.

It's kind of funny that of late DeCastro has emerged as the consolation prize.

It's a fun time of year. :)

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 06:43 PM
Mosley said we'd take JJ Watt last year and said we would not take Smith.

Here's the link to an article about him talking about Smith:

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2011/4/18/2118614/nfl-draft-2011-cowboys-will-not-pick-tyron-smith-says-matt-mosley

Well, this certainly sucks.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/thehoofbite/ScreenShot2012-04-22at53015PMcopy.jpg

FYI: His mock had Costanza (sp?)

junk
04-22-2012, 06:44 PM
With this plan, we better hope we have the ball last in every game though cause the D will stink again.

What plan? I just said I'd like to see upgrades on the OL and that there are holes at WR.

This team has a lot of holes. Any of these positions could be drafted: S, CB, OLB, DE, NT, TE, WR, OG or OC. Even RB or ILB could use depth.

Personally, I don't know that you can make enough moves to fill all the holes in one draft. So take the best player available and do it again next year (in the draft and FA)

Wulfman
04-22-2012, 06:48 PM
If there was any more smoke going up from around the league, Smokey the Bear would file a restraining order against the NFL Draft.

At this point, I believe absolutely NOTHING that comes out of anyone's mouth that is coming from "rumors", "grumblings", or "whispers".

If Sdogo or Hos hear something from inside the Ranch, it's one thing. These guys that have national exposure are being played like a Stradivarius by front offices all over the league.

Deep_Freeze
04-22-2012, 06:50 PM
What plan? I just said I'd like to see upgrades on the OL and that there are holes at WR.

This team has a lot of holes. Any of these positions could be drafted: S, CB, OLB, DE, NT, TE, WR, OG or OC. Even RB or ILB could use depth.

Personally, I don't know that you can make enough moves to fill all the holes in one draft. So take the best player available and do it again next year (in the draft and FA)

OK, from your other post you seemed to just list offensive needs.

Yes there are alot of needs, most of which are on defense.

There is too much parity in the NFL for me to think we are 2 years away, with a good draft, we could be real competitive this year.

Wulfman
04-22-2012, 06:52 PM
so I guess Bunting gets it wrong also


The idea of drafting an athlete like DeCastro and potentially playing him next to 2011 first-round pick Tyron Smith at left tackle has to sound mighty intriguing.

Notice Bunting didn't suggest that he actually would be the pick. He took him at #14 for Dallas in his mock, but his reasoning was that the idea sounds intriguing. Well he's right, it does. But so does a long weekend in Monte Carlo with a super model and an expense account. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

67CowboysFan
04-22-2012, 06:55 PM
It's all fun. But it's all very predictable as well. Information and misinformation alike is flowing strong down the home stretch just like previous years.

No one knows for sure because no one knows for sure what will happen at picks 3, 4, 5 etc. So much of what Dallas will do is influenced by what other teams do in front of them and what teams behind them want to do as a result.

It's kind of funny that of late DeCastro has emerged as the consolation prize.

It's a fun time of year. :)
We could use a consolation prize like that every year. :)

DFWJC
04-22-2012, 06:57 PM
Mosley said we'd take JJ Watt last year and said we would not take Smith.

Here's the link to an article about him talking about Smith:

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2011/4/18/2118614/nfl-draft-2011-cowboys-will-not-pick-tyron-smith-says-matt-mosley

Great stuff!

I love it when you get to check back and see what someone said in the past.

Not even referring to Mosley really, but some get really adament about certain players as if they know with certainty the future. You know the ones, that diss others that don't agree when all they have to do is sometimes say "In my opinion" to lighten it up.

Then when things don't happen, you never hear a peep.

DWAREZ
04-22-2012, 06:57 PM
Suddenly my draft hopes feel doomed.

Yeah, Mosley is the black plague of all things Cowboys draft related, think exact opposite!:eek::bang2:

This news from him may be the "kiss of death"!

Cowboy from New York
04-22-2012, 06:57 PM
It is almost comical that Mosely was used last year at this time to blow smoke.
On the other hand, I wonder how many times Jerry and Co can use Mosely for this purpose before he loses any cred he may have. This forum excluded ofcourse:laugh2:

da_boyz_mk
04-22-2012, 06:58 PM
Man I hope Mosley is right. I think DeCastro has a better chance of stepping in day one and dominating than just about anybody. Maybe at center too.

newnationcb
04-22-2012, 07:20 PM
While Mosley deserves some flak for being wayyy off last year, isn't this the same guy that got our 1st round picks right for like 4 straight years? Or something like that?

This is still something substantial IMO.


And LMAO at the guy who insinuated that Hostile or Sdogo might be a more reliable source than Mosley. And I say this in no way meant to be inciting towards those esteemed posters.

Wulfman
04-22-2012, 07:25 PM
While Mosley deserves some flak for being wayyy off last year, isn't this the same guy that got our 1st round picks right for like 4 straight years? Or something like that?

This is still something substantial IMO.


And LMAO at the guy who insinuated that Hostile or Sdogo might be a more reliable source than Mosley. And I say this in no way meant to be inciting towards those esteemed posters.

That would be me, and I'll take guys I trust whose names aren't that well known over a well-known guy has been BADLY wrong in front of everyone.

I think Mosley is as reliable this time of year as every other national media source...and that's not at all.

Beast_from_East
04-22-2012, 07:32 PM
Well, this certainly sucks.

<a href="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/thehoofbite/ScreenShot2012-04-22at53015PMcopy.jpg" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/thehoofbite/ScreenShot2012-04-22at53015PMcopy.jpg (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/thehoofbite/ScreenShot2012-04-22at53015PMcopy.jpg)

FYI: His mock had Costanza (sp?)

Talk about having egg on your face.:laugh2:


Did Mosley even explain why he was so wrong on his prediction? Kinda hard to have any cred left you you whiff this bad on your prediction. "I said they arent, more than a hunch"...........what a freaking moron.

I would be embarrassed to write another column after looking like such a fool.

Hostile
04-22-2012, 07:36 PM
That would be me, and I'll take guys I trust whose names aren't that well known over a well-known guy has been BADLY wrong in front of everyone.

I think Mosley is as reliable this time of year as every other national media source...and that's not at all.Yeah, I think you and I are on pretty good streaks on 1st round here. I go back to 2005 as of right now. Same with Norm Hitzges, he has has been the same page as us.

But the guy who has reason to crow is Nick Eatman. Last year he got 1st, 2nd and 3rd dead right. That impressed me.

Beast_from_East
04-22-2012, 07:37 PM
Yeah, Mosley is the black plague of all things Cowboys draft related, think exact opposite!:eek::bang2:

This news from him may be the "kiss of death"!


Yea, I am pretty sure that Garrett is not telling him jack about our board.

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 07:39 PM
Talk about having egg on your face.:laugh2:


Did Mosley even explain why he was so wrong on his prediction? Kinda hard to have any cred left you you whiff this bad on your prediction. "I said they arent, more than a hunch"...........what a freaking moron.

I would be embarrassed to write another column after looking like such a fool.

He had a tweet after the fact about how he "thought" the team wanted to trade out or something.

Basically he was told something wrong. They know he's gonna put info out there so why would they tell him anything?

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 07:40 PM
If there was any more smoke going up from around the league, Smokey the Bear would file a restraining order against the NFL Draft.

At this point, I believe absolutely NOTHING that comes out of anyone's mouth that is coming from "rumors", "grumblings", or "whispers".

If Sdogo or Hos hear something from inside the Ranch, it's one thing. These guys that have national exposure are being played like a Stradivarius by front offices all over the league.

I'm skeptical of why anyone would ever pay attention to what anybody says regarding any player.

Smokescreens seem so pointless to me.

If everyday Joe Fanatic can call it when he sees it, any chance that people in the league believe a drop of it?

I think any more teams use "smokescreens" as a matter of continuing something old for the sake of doing so. I doubt any team actually thinks about the effects and they probably just do it out of habit.

Beast_from_East
04-22-2012, 07:41 PM
He had a tweet after the fact about how he "thought" the team wanted to trade out or something.

Basically he was told something wrong. They know he's gonna put info out there so why would they tell him anything?


Yea, I am sure anything Garrett tells him 3 days before the draft is totally bogus. No way Garrett is going to tell him anything legit.

Hostile
04-22-2012, 07:43 PM
I caught all kinds of grief last year for sticking with Smith after Mosley's info. I was amused how the same posters said nothing when we took Smith.

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 07:46 PM
I caught all kinds of grief last year for sticking with Smith after Mosley's info. I was amused how the same posters said nothing when we took Smith.

You seem to hold a lot of resentment.

lkelly
04-22-2012, 07:49 PM
Yeah, I think you and I are on pretty good streaks on 1st round here. I go back to 2005 as of right now. Same with Norm Hitzges, he has has been the same page as us.

But the guy who has reason to crow is Nick Eatman. Last year he got 1st, 2nd and 3rd dead right. That impressed me.

Was that posted somewhere? I went back through his blog and some other searches and the best I could see is he picked Smith in a mock. He had us taking Christian Ballard in the 2nd and Curtis Brown in the 3rd.

Wulfman
04-22-2012, 07:49 PM
Yeah, I think you and I are on pretty good streaks on 1st round here. I go back to 2005 as of right now. Same with Norm Hitzges, he has has been the same page as us.

But the guy who has reason to crow is Nick Eatman. Last year he got 1st, 2nd and 3rd dead right. That impressed me.

Yup...couldn't believe Nick nailed the first three rounds. I was beginning to suspect him of having a spycam in the war room. :D

Hostile
04-22-2012, 07:50 PM
You seem to hold a lot of resentment.

Amusement actually.

Wulfman
04-22-2012, 07:51 PM
I'm skeptical of why anyone would ever pay attention to what anybody says regarding any player.

Smokescreens seem so pointless to me.

If everyday Joe Fanatic can call it when he sees it, any chance that people in the league believe a drop of it?

I think any more teams use "smokescreens" as a matter of continuing something old for the sake of doing so. I doubt any team actually thinks about the effects and they probably just do it out of habit.

Oh, I agree, Hoof. That's my whole point...anything that comes out about who teams are interested in are worth as much ink as it takes to print them...on a screen.

SDogo
04-22-2012, 08:02 PM
And LMAO at the guy who insinuated that Hostile or Sdogo might be a more reliable source than Mosley. And I say this in no way meant to be inciting towards those esteemed posters.

No issues here with what u said

theogt
04-22-2012, 08:14 PM
Mosley was wrong last year, but in prior years he's been spot on, so.....

StarMan
04-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Picking DeCastro seems like such a no-brainer to me if he's there. As close as it gets to a can't miss prospect at a position of need. The other guys we would be looking at #14 all have some kind of flaw. If he's gone at 14 so be it. But if we pass on him let the rueage begin.

Dash28
04-22-2012, 08:19 PM
Mosley was wrong last year, but in prior years he's been spot on, so.....

Hopefully he's right this time.

DeCastro would upgrade our interior play tremendously.

Just hope that we don't get cute and pass on him because we don't want to take a guard high.

burmafrd
04-22-2012, 08:19 PM
last week some of those so called 'respected' mediots were saying that the Colts might be looking at RG3. And of course that was total complete CRAP.

So anything any mediot says up until the draft is worth less than a fart in a hurricane.

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 08:32 PM
last week some of those so called 'respected' mediots were saying that the Colts might be looking at RG3. And of course that was total complete CRAP.

So anything any mediot says up until the draft is worth less than a fart in a hurricane.

That was just Wilbon wasn't it?

He's a turd anyway who will say something for the sake of having someone hear him.

I don't think half the stuff he says he actually believes. He's far too conditioned into his PTI role where half the time he has to argue against Cornholer most of the time just to make the show interesting.

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 08:35 PM
Hopefully he's right this time.

DeCastro would upgrade our interior play tremendously.

Just hope that we don't get cute and pass on him because we don't want to take a guard high.

I'd lose some faith in the front office if they pulled that line out.

Considering the bust rate of 1st rounders, any time you can get what is viewed as a "sure thing", you should probably throw out the argument that inertia is more of a deciding factor for you than doing what is in the best interest of your team.

Fla Cowpoke
04-22-2012, 08:35 PM
Since he left Dallas, I don't think Mosley has nearly the same insight into the Cowboys that he once did.

Avery
04-22-2012, 08:36 PM
I'll reiterate, Decastro is the safest pick in this entire draft (even more than his Stanford teammate looking for real estate in Indy). If you can get a Pro Bowler at #14, you take that every single time.

And yes, yes, I know, there are no guaranteed picks, but Decastro really has no significant weaknesses in his game. I think he's just as good as Iupati a few years back; a bit more technically sound, but smaller. He's a plug and play athlete.

newnationcb
04-22-2012, 08:46 PM
After having watched the OL struggle for an entire season and having only switched the tackles and added Livings (Bernadette is practically unknown), I don't see how anyone can feel confident that the OL is much better off.

Even under the assumption that Free picks up at RT where he left off, that still leaves 3 positions on the OL that are shaky.

Although I have started to warm on Livings after watching the season opener against Cleveland last year (I'm tempering my excitement because it is only one game), I'm still not convinced the OL has been address adequately.

If Dallas gets DeCastro and somehow gets better play from the C position, whoever that might be, I think people will **** a brick at how well the offense performs.


I'm buying into what some other people have said in that if we get him we likely will move him to Center.

Considering he, Livings and Bernadeau might very well be our 3 best interior linemen.

da_boyz_mk
04-22-2012, 08:49 PM
I'll reiterate, Decastro is the safest pick in this entire draft (even more than his Stanford teammate looking for real estate in Indy). If you can get a Pro Bowler at #14, you take that every single time.

And yes, yes, I know, there are no guaranteed picks, but Decastro really has no significant weaknesses in his game. I think he's just as good as Iupati a few years back; a bit more technically sound, but smaller. He's a plug and play athlete.

I agree 100%. IMO DeCastro would be a 16 game starter at guard or center day one. I think Barron would be the only other target who could start day one. Brocker or Cox would be rotational guys for much of their first season. I'm looking for immediate impact at #14.

Bluefin
04-22-2012, 08:49 PM
Matt Mosley (http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/04/22/12/Jerry-Jones-always-a-risk-taker-in-the-d/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=714730&feedID=9348)

Folks at Valley Ranch believe there's a good shot Barron will already be off the board at that point. And it's hard to believe the Cowboys would trade up as high as No. 11 to select Barron.

It's becoming apparent in talking to sources across the league that Dallas would be thrilled to stay at 14 and select Stanford guard David DeCastro. The Cowboys signed a couple of serviceable starters at both guard spots in free agency, but DeCastro is viewed as an immediate Pro Bowl candidate.

"Decastro is my offensive version of (Boston College ILB Luke) Kuechley," a longtime AFC scout told FOXSportsSouthwest.com. "Good solid all around player with a good level of intangibles. Safe bet, sure thing as a starter."

I'll be ecstatic if it plays out like this.

da_boyz_mk
04-22-2012, 09:00 PM
There's no one in the last 10 years I've wanted the cowboys to pick more than DeCastro. Put him next to Smith and I'm telling you they'll be in the ring of honor together in about 20 years or so.

jobberone
04-22-2012, 09:27 PM
Throwing this out there just to be devil's advocate. You draft Decastro with 14. Then you start him over the vet signees beside Free. Or do you put him next to Smith who's never played a down at LT? So now you have a rookie at LG and a new guy at LT and worse of all you have him playing next to Costa or whomever.

I say get a good G 2-4 and let him develop for a year. I'll let you decide who to draft at 14. And get a C for God's sake!

junk
04-22-2012, 09:33 PM
Throwing this out there just to be devil's advocate. You draft Decastro with 14. Then you start him over the vet signees beside Free. Or do you put him next to Smith who's never played a down at LT? So now you have a rookie at LG and a new guy at LT and worse of all you have him playing next to Costa or whomever.

I say get a good G 2-4 and let him develop for a year. I'll let you decide who to draft at 14. And get a C for God's sake!

Didn't DeCastro play RG in college?

Livings played LG last year.

I think that'd be your scenario. Smith-Livings-?-DeCastro-Free

Hoofbite
04-22-2012, 09:41 PM
Throwing this out there just to be devil's advocate. You draft Decastro with 14. Then you start him over the vet signees beside Free. Or do you put him next to Smith who's never played a down at LT? So now you have a rookie at LG and a new guy at LT and worse of all you have him playing next to Costa or whomever.

I say get a good G 2-4 and let him develop for a year. I'll let you decide who to draft at 14. And get a C for God's sake!

If he's drafted and plays G it will be RG.

Livings played LG and he played RG in college.

Seems like a complete no-brainer.

There's zero question he starts over Bernadette and zero competition to start with Livings unless somehow one of the sunk turds among the bunch starts floating and pushes Livings out.

junk
04-22-2012, 09:52 PM
I caught all kinds of grief last year for sticking with Smith after Mosley's info. I was amused how the same posters said nothing when we took Smith.

Link?

mschmidt64
04-22-2012, 10:01 PM
There's no one in the last 10 years I've wanted the cowboys to pick more than DeCastro. Put him next to Smith and I'm telling you they'll be in the ring of honor together in about 20 years or so.

I love DeCastro but I think I can easily say Ware is the player I've wanted most since I've been watching the draft, followed by Roy Williams in 2002.

Newman is probably the player I wanted the least.

DeCastro is probably high on that list though. I wanted Dwayne Bowe pretty bad in 2007. 2006 I don't recall being particularly on either side in the Carpenter-Lawson debates but I think I marginally preferred Carpenter but didn't love either.

I like Felix in 2008, Jenkins not so much, I preferred Flowers.

Tyron Smith was my guy last year and I know I did not like Watt. But I think I was ok with trading down too. I wanted Bryant in 2010 pretty bad. DeCastro is probably about tied with how bad I wanted Bryant when he started falling.

mschmidt64
04-22-2012, 10:02 PM
Didn't DeCastro play RG in college?

Livings played LG last year.

I think that'd be your scenario. Smith-Livings-?-DeCastro-Free

I'd want him at LG eventually because I'd want that dominant side of the OL.

Sasquatch
04-22-2012, 10:27 PM
Didn't Mosley get Felix right or is my memory playing tricks on me again? He's not always clueless on these matters, is he?

28 Joker
04-22-2012, 10:47 PM
I'm pulling for David DeCastro at 14 now, and I think his chances have increased dramatically. Mike Mayock stated that some teams think center will be DeCastro's best position in the NFL. This is a game changer, imo. The Cowboys need a center now. If the Cowboys draft DeCastro, I think they will look to play him at center, between the two bigger guards. The Cowboys will probably want their best 5 on the field, and the two new guards should be in the best 5.

DeCastro makes a ton of sense right now. Cox is good as gone, and Barron may very well be gone by 14, too. There should be a big run on interior offensive linemen, and Dallas could get the best at 14 and not have to worry about it.

I'd take DeCastro over Brockers and Poe, and Dallas just might, too.

Gaede
04-22-2012, 11:15 PM
Decastro would be pretty sweet to 'settle' for.

InmanRoshi
04-22-2012, 11:49 PM
Didn't Mosley get Felix right or is my memory playing tricks on me again? He's not always clueless on these matters, is he?

He's generally gotten all of them right before last year.

mickswag
04-23-2012, 12:36 AM
Link?

Go to the first page of this thread.

silverbear
04-23-2012, 01:01 AM
Matt Mosley ‏ @mattmosley
Hearing some big-time draft rumblings from Valley Ranch here in the UK. I'll share some of this in a Fox exclusive. Think DeCastro.

Works for me... hell, I'd even think hard about trying to trade up from pick 45 to get your center of the future, Peter Konz... if you don't wish to give up draft picks to make that happen (I don't see any way Konz makes it to 45), then target Philip Blake in the 4th...

I know the defense needs help, and I would look to acquire some of that help later in the draft, but to me the quickest path to serious playoff contention lies in upgrading our offensive line... with the skill position players this team has, if you build a dominating offensive line this team will be unstoppable... usually, this would be a 2 or 3 year process, but you've got Tyron Smith already, DeCastro would certainly be another major building block, why not go all in and try to accelerate that process??

Hell, doing that might even help the defense's stats-- the other team can't score if you've got the ball... the more I think about it, the more I think drafting offensive line early is the way to go...

Tyron Smith at left tackle, Nate Livings at left guard... Philip Blake at center... David DeCastro at right guard, Doug Free at right tackle... I think the Boys could put up some good offensive numbers behind that offensive line... that's a big offensive line (almost 320 pounds per man), built to lean on people, but with the exception of Livings, the other four linemen can run pretty well, too...

Zaxor
04-23-2012, 01:20 AM
I'm pulling for David DeCastro at 14 now, and I think his chances have increased dramatically. Mike Mayock stated that some teams think center will be DeCastro's best position in the NFL. This is a game changer, imo. The Cowboys need a center now. If the Cowboys draft DeCastro, I think they will look to play him at center, between the two bigger guards. The Cowboys will probably want their best 5 on the field, and the two new guards should be in the best 5.

DeCastro makes a ton of sense right now. Cox is good as gone, and Barron may very well be gone by 14, too. There should be a big run on interior offensive linemen, and Dallas could get the best at 14 and not have to worry about it.

I'd take DeCastro over Brockers and Poe, and Dallas just might, too.

if we take decastro I think it will be for center also where he has the skill set to be very good

Idgit
04-23-2012, 01:24 AM
Well, this certainly sucks.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/thehoofbite/ScreenShot2012-04-22at53015PMcopy.jpg

FYI: His mock had Costanza (sp?)

This is hilarious.

I don't blame the guy for posting a bit of draft misinformation. But there's a difference between posting something you hear, and going in the tank like this. Embarrassing for him.

ThreeandOut
04-23-2012, 07:21 AM
Mosley's article is up now. He doesn't think Barron will be there at 14. The Cowboys will not look to trade up or down but will be content to take DeCastro at 14. If DeCastro is not available, Poe will be the pick.

burmafrd
04-23-2012, 07:27 AM
It is interesting all this talk about DeCastro going to center. I can kind of see going into the OTA's and they try him out and see. Certainly would strengthen the weakest position on the O line.

DeCastro clearly has all the physical tools to be a Pro Bowl center. And from all accounts he is not only book smark but football smart (which don't always come together)

BrAinPaiNt
04-23-2012, 07:38 AM
It is interesting all this talk about DeCastro going to center. I can kind of see going into the OTA's and they try him out and see. Certainly would strengthen the weakest position on the O line.

DeCastro clearly has all the physical tools to be a Pro Bowl center. And from all accounts he is not only book smark but football smart (which don't always come together)

I think if they got him they would have DeCastro and Bernadeau and see who is better at C or OG and go from there.

jobberone
04-23-2012, 08:17 AM
Didn't DeCastro play RG in college?

Livings played LG last year.

I think that'd be your scenario. Smith-Livings-?-DeCastro-Free

If he's drafted and plays G it will be RG.

Livings played LG and he played RG in college.

Seems like a complete no-brainer.

There's zero question he starts over Bernadette and zero competition to start with Livings unless somehow one of the sunk turds among the bunch starts floating and pushes Livings out.

I didn't mean to start a controversy about where Decastro may start. The point was you're counting on putting a rookie next to Costa. I realize many of you think Decastro is the next John Hannah but he's never played a down in the NFL and no one really knows how any rookie is going to play. We don't even know how well the vets we signed will play. All reasons many are harping on finding a center. Perhaps that may be Costa but I'd lay odds he isn't a long term starter here although perhaps I'm wrong.

Sasquatch
04-23-2012, 09:00 AM
Works for me... hell, I'd even think hard about trying to trade up from pick 45 to get your center of the future, Peter Konz... if you don't wish to give up draft picks to make that happen (I don't see any way Konz makes it to 45), then target Philip Blake in the 4th...

I know the defense needs help, and I would look to acquire some of that help later in the draft, but to me the quickest path to serious playoff contention lies in upgrading our offensive line... with the skill position players this team has, if you build a dominating offensive line this team will be unstoppable... usually, this would be a 2 or 3 year process, but you've got Tyron Smith already, DeCastro would certainly be another major building block, why not go all in and try to accelerate that process??

Hell, doing that might even help the defense's stats-- the other team can't score if you've got the ball... the more I think about it, the more I think drafting offensive line early is the way to go...

Tyron Smith at left tackle, Nate Livings at left guard... Philip Blake at center... David DeCastro at right guard, Doug Free at right tackle... I think the Boys could put up some good offensive numbers behind that offensive line... that's a big offensive line (almost 320 pounds per man), built to lean on people, but with the exception of Livings, the other four linemen can run pretty well, too...

I agree with the logic and would add that there's more value on the offensive line where we're picking than defense. Well, at least according to most projections I've seen, although the actual draft may turn out differently.

Chocolate Lab
04-23-2012, 09:00 AM
While Mosley deserves some flak for being wayyy off last year, isn't this the same guy that got our 1st round picks right for like 4 straight years? Or something like that?

This is still something substantial IMO.


And LMAO at the guy who insinuated that Hostile or Sdogo might be a more reliable source than Mosley. And I say this in no way meant to be inciting towards those esteemed posters.

Yep.

And Mosley only changed his stance on Smith the last week before the draft. He had Smith pretty much the whole time before.

Like Coco said, no one really knows who they're taking because the team doesn't even know until the picks before them shake out.

a_minimalist
04-23-2012, 09:32 AM
If we did get DeCastro I'd hope we leave him at Guard his natural position for a year or two. Let him get comfortable in the NFL first before asking him to change positions. Plus, if I remember correctly Bernadeau is a big boy. Plug him in at Center.

AmishCowboy
04-23-2012, 11:35 AM
There is still a couple of FA C's out there. Jeff Faine, Jameal Jackson, Jason Brown we could sign to leave DeCastro at guard.

junk
04-23-2012, 12:15 PM
I didn't mean to start a controversy about where Decastro may start. The point was you're counting on putting a rookie next to Costa. I realize many of you think Decastro is the next John Hannah but he's never played a down in the NFL and no one really knows how any rookie is going to play. We don't even know how well the vets we signed will play. All reasons many are harping on finding a center. Perhaps that may be Costa but I'd lay odds he isn't a long term starter here although perhaps I'm wrong.

I don't know if I think he's the next John Hannah.

I think we both just replied to your concern about starting a first time NFL LT in Smith next to a rookie in DeCastro.

CoCo
04-23-2012, 12:23 PM
Great stuff!

I love it when you get to check back and see what someone said in the past.

Not even referring to Mosley really, but some get really adament about certain players as if they know with certainty the future. You know the ones, that diss others that don't agree when all they have to do is sometimes say "In my opinion" to lighten it up.

Then when things don't happen, you never hear a peep.

QFT!!! :laugh2:

CoCo
04-23-2012, 12:42 PM
I don't know why anyone would dismiss the thoughts of all national writers. I think it's quite likely that Mosely (or whoever) could have connections just as solid as anyone at VR.

I'll take anyone's credible thoughts on what they think or what they even hear. I'm interested. But I don't buy any of it hook, line & sinker for reasons stated earlier - no one knows for sure what's going to happen until things go live and start playing out pick by pick. Shoot I'll bet there are even cases where GMs wake up on Thursday and deviate from their Wednesday board.

CoCo
04-23-2012, 12:48 PM
I'm skeptical of why anyone would ever pay attention to what anybody says regarding any player.

Smokescreens seem so pointless to me.

If everyday Joe Fanatic can call it when he sees it, any chance that people in the league believe a drop of it?

I think any more teams use "smokescreens" as a matter of continuing something old for the sake of doing so. I doubt any team actually thinks about the effects and they probably just do it out of habit.

I'll agree with you on your first point (why listen regarding what someone says?).

But I suspect teams are very intentional about being careful to avoid tipping their hand through players visits, interviews, etc.

I also believe that teams practice misinformation or at the very purpose to blur their real intentions amidst a pool of faux interest.

The stakes are too high not to.

InmanRoshi
04-23-2012, 12:57 PM
Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a tug of war in the front office with Jerry acting as the final draft day decision maker, with Team Watt winning at the time of his report

burmafrd
04-23-2012, 12:59 PM
I would say that from the Combine to the draft you take anything any team official says with a very large grain of salt.