Trade up for Decastro Mock

[brooksey1]

Forget all you Brockers lovers and as much as I like Barron, I like Smith and Martin as well. Lets not chance it. Decastro is projected to be the best Guard to come out in a decade (majority of scouts) and if he stays healthy we are set for the next ten years. We need to protect Tony Romo and improve our goal-line offense and this is our first priority. Decastro is a great short yardage guy plus he's the best puller/trapper in the country. Jason Garret can have some fun with what Decastro brings to the table in the form of "Intelligence". KC is all over this guy. Buffalo is looking at Gilmore or Cordy Glenn and may be willing to trade four spots. Don't buy the hype and smoke screens. Jerry has done a terrific job creating doubt but don't think for one minute he doesnt want Decastro. He knows the window Romo has, the success he had with Tyron Smith is fresh in his mind plus he is on the hot seat as a GM to produce.

Trade up 4 spots for Decastro Mock…. because YES he is that good! We move ahead of KC and ARZ.

#10) David Decastro G, Stanford 6'5" 315 From Buffalo for our 4rd round pick plus either cash or a player to be named.)

#45) Alemeda Tamu NT, Washington 6’3” 350[/FONT][/FONT]

#81) Markelle Martin S, Okl Sate 6’1 210

#133) Brandon Lindsey OLB, Pitt 6’2 260

#152) David Molk C, Michigan 6’2 300

#186) Ronald Leary G, Memphis 6’3 315

#222) George Bryan TE, NC State, 6'5, 267 [/FONT]

[Hostile]

What did it cost to move up 4 places?

[montgod]

What for? As things look now, he will likely drop past our pick.

[brooksey1]

What did it cost to move up 4 places?

The move up warrants our 3rd round pick but i'm only offering our 4th round pick and a player to be named or cash.

[brooksey1]

What for? As things look now, he will likely drop past our pick.


The Fans in KC are yelling Decastro or bust! Im aware of the talk but i'm not buying it.

[Hostile]

We have pick 135 not 133. Just for you.

[Wulfman]

The move up warrants our 3rd round pick but i'm only offering our 4th round pick and a player to be named or cash.

And Buffalo would take that deal because???

It would take our third, at least. Not interested.

[brooksey1]

And Buffalo would take that deal because???

It would take our third, at least. Not interested.


Buffalo may take that deal because the guys they want will likely be there at 14, meaning they get a free 4th rounder and CASH. Last I heard it makes the world go round. There is always a deal to be had. You may not be interested but Buffalo just might be.

[Wulfman]

Buffalo may take that deal because the guys they want will likely be there at 14, meaning they get a free 4th rounder and CASH. Last I heard it makes the world go round. There is always a deal to be had. You may not be interested but Buffalo just might be.

Cash and a player to be named later sounds a lot more like a baseball deal than a football deal, and it likely wouldn't work that way. I think you believe they'd take it because you want them to, not because it's at all likely.

[SDogo]

Cash and a player to be named later sounds a lot more like a baseball deal than a football deal, and it likely wouldn't work that way. I think you believe they'd take it because you want them to, not because it's at all likely.

Uh yeah, this is wrong on so many levels. The first being, there are no cash considerations in the NFL, the second being he is expecting the Bills to give away the pick or loan us the pick, not yet figured that out and third, no one is trading up for DeCastro.

[brooksey1]

Uh yeah, this is wrong on so many levels. The first being, there are no cash considerations in the NFL, the second being he is expecting the Bills to give away the pick or loan us the pick, not yet figured that out and third, no one is trading up for DeCastro.

It's so right on all levels. Loan the pick, where did you get that from? I said trade it for a 4th round pick and a player or cash. We owe them some points so there will be additional comepensation. Im trying to keep our third round pick. If we can't do cash then package another player. Im not sure who that is but im not talking about a starter.

Nobody is trading up for Decastro? That's exactly why I posted this. The down talk is laughable. We need a guy like this to make a run at the SB and I'm willing to trade our fourth round pick and another player to secure that opportunity. I don't care about pre-hype talk, its all smokescreen.

Buffalo is interested in 2-3 guys projected to go 15-22.

[brooksey1]

Cash and a player to be named later sounds a lot more like a baseball deal than a football deal, and it likely wouldn't work that way. I think you believe they'd take it because you want them to, not because it's at all likely.

Hey Wulf, I believe I can get a deal done for us!

Buffalo needs a lot of help and they are interested in players that are projecting out later, guys like Cordy Glenn and Stephon Gilmore. To say Buffalo does not want another 4th round pick and a player to be developed is saying you have not checked out the Buffalo Bills yet. Its painful but check them out.

[VThokie7]

It's so right on all levels. Loan the pick, where did you get that from? I said trade it for a 4th round pick and a player or cash. We owe them some points so there will be additional comepensation. Im trying to keep our third round pick. If we can't do cash then package another player. Im not sure who that is but im not talking about a starter.

Nobody is trading up for Decastro? That's exactly why I posted this. The down talk is laughable. We need a guy like this to make a run at the SB and I'm willing to trade our fourth round pick and another player to secure that opportunity. I don't care about pre-hype talk, its all smokescreen.

Buffalo is interested in 2-3 guys projected to go 15-22.

You don't get into the top 10 with a 4th round pick and a scrub. And you mention smoke screen, so how would you even know who the Bills are interested in to suggest they'd give us the pick on the cheap? Gotta say i'm going with SDogo on this one, if you want Decastro, just wait till the 14th he'll be there.

[Joshmil53]

If DeCastro isn't at 14, I'm going to be very, very upset.

[a_minimalist]

I have a man crush on DeCastro but I wouldn't even move up to get him.

[xwalker]

I wonder if some guys have ever played poker. Trading up for player that is likely to be available without trading up is a panic move.

[brooksey1]

You don't get into the top 10 with a 4th round pick and a scrub. And you mention smoke screen, so how would you even know who the Bills are interested in to suggest they'd give us the pick on the cheap? Gotta say i'm going with SDogo on this one, if you want Decastro, just wait till the 14th he'll be there.


Yeah you're probably right but we're only talking 4 spots plus Buffalo is all over the place and needs a lot of help. I thought Jerry was a super salesman? It does not take a supersalesman to give them our 3rd RD pick. He's gotta sell that scrub as a future starter! Also I have a feeling KC is all over Decastro at 11.

If Buff does not want the deal no problem. We sit and wait , if he's there at 14 we take him, if not select Mark Barron.

[cowboy_ron]

And Buffalo would take that deal because???

It would take our third, at least. Not interested.
:laugh2:

[LOBO7]

Noway on trading up for him. Its very possible we could trade back and still get him.

[brooksey1]

I wonder if some guys have ever played poker. Trading up for player that is likely to be available without trading up is a panic move.

No it called closing the deal, something you obviously know nothing about.likely to be available is no certainty. What Im giving away to "guarantee" the best guard in a decade?

Nothing. Did you ever actually win at cards?

[xwalker]

No it called closing the deal, something you obviously know nothing about.likely to be available is no certainty. What Im giving away to "guarantee" the best guard in a decade?

Nothing. Did you ever actually win at cards?

Yes, I play poker for a living. Thanks for asking.

It will require a 3rd round pick to move up to that pick. What you're giving away is a player like DeMarco Murray.

[brooksey1]

Yes, I play poker for a living. Thanks for asking.

It will require a 3rd round pick to move up to that pick. What you're giving away is a player like DeMarco Murray.

Ever spend anytime recruitng or hiring? Sometimes you gotta go above and beyond to get your man.

I realize it would take a 3rd rd pick (200 points) but im offering a 4th and another player that could be a starter someday. If they say no so be it, I sit and wait. If Decastro goes I take Barron.

There's a very good chance KC or ARZ scoops up Decastro. Im not sure how the cowboys front office are valuing Decastro but if he's their guy, you get a deal done if possible. Murray is 1st round value now. I would consider Victor Butler or someone along those lines.

[juck]

KC or AZ are projected to take him.:mad:

[Idgit]

There are all sorts of people living in this world. Or in worlds similar to this one, anyway.

[cowboysooner]

Not to mention he plans on taking 2 more interior linemen. We can play guards on our kickoff team.

[Oh_Canada]

You would be wasting picks trading for a guy who will probably drop to the late teens.

[brooksey1]

Not to mention he plans on taking 2 more interior linemen. We can play guards on our kickoff team.

Yes, we need a center and we have no guarantees in what we have in Livings/
Arkin yet. It's a late round pick that the cowboys have brought in and like.

[Wulfman]

Hey Wulf, I believe I can get a deal done for us!

Buffalo needs a lot of help and they are interested in players that are projecting out later, guys like Cordy Glenn and Stephon Gilmore. To say Buffalo does not want another 4th round pick and a player to be developed is saying you have not checked out the Buffalo Bills yet. Its painful but check them out.

I just think you're dreaming. I know how many holes the Bills have, as I study every team's roster as draft preparation. But nothing on their roster says they'd be satisfied with one (or more) of our back-ups and a fourth-round pick to move down four spots in the top of the first round.

Aside from the fact that JJ doesn't like to even consider trading players on draft day because he believes it's when they have their lowest value, it would take a player that the Bills believe could come in and start over whoever they've already got at the position. If you trade them someone good enough to do that, now you've created yet another hole on a team that already has plenty to fill. And all for a guy that is likely going to be there when you pick at #14 anyway.

As I said, dreamin'.

[brooksey1]

You would be wasting picks trading for a guy who will probably drop to the late teens.

"Probably" doesnt exist, when I see something I want... I go after it.

[Double Trouble]

"Probably" doesnt exist, when I see something I want... I go after it.By your logic, lets give up like 3 #1s, trade up to the 3rd pick or so, and make sure we get him.

[brooksey1]

I just think you're dreaming. I know how many holes the Bills have, as I study every team's roster as draft preparation. But nothing on their roster says they'd be satisfied with one (or more) of our back-ups and a fourth-round pick to move down four spots in the top of the first round.

Aside from the fact that JJ doesn't like to even consider trading players on draft day because he believes it's when they have their lowest value, it would take a player that the Bills believe could come in and start over whoever they've already got at the position. If you trade them someone good enough to do that, now you've created yet another hole on a team that already has plenty to fill. And all for a guy that is likely going to be there when you pick at #14 anyway.

As I said, dreamin'.

Can a guy dream a little?

How about we throw in Orlando Scandrick and his 5 million a year contract? They need a CB.

[Wulfman]

Can a guy dream a little?

How about we throw in Orlando Scandrick and his 5 million a year contract? They need a CB.

:laugh2:

[CowboysYanksLakers]

This is not a draft to trade up...

[Beast_from_East]

We have too many holes to be pissing away picks in a trade up. There is going to be a super blue chipper at pick 14 regardless, so there is no need to trade up anyways.

Now if there were 10 or 12 blue chippers and the rest are all JAGs, then I agree that trading up is the best idea. I would always prefer quality over quantity (see 2009 draft class) , but this is not the scenario we are faced with.

This is not the draft to trade up in.

[rwalters31]

Forget all you Brockers lovers and as much as I like Barron, I like Smith and Martin as well. Lets not chance it. Decastro is projected to be the best Guard to come out in a decade (majority of scouts) and if he stays healthy we are set for the next ten years. We need to protect Tony Romo and improve our goal-line offense and this is our first priority. Decastro is a great short yardage guy plus he's the best puller/trapper in the country. Jason Garret can have some fun with what Decastro brings to the table in the form of "Intelligence". KC is all over this guy. Buffalo is looking at Gilmore or Cordy Glenn and may be willing to trade four spots. Don't buy the hype and smoke screens. Jerry has done a terrific job creating doubt but don't think for one minute he doesnt want Decastro. He knows the window Romo has, the success he had with Tyron Smith is fresh in his mind plus he is on the hot seat as a GM to produce.

Trade up 4 spots for Decastro Mock…. because YES he is that good! We move ahead of KC and ARZ.

#10) David Decastro G, Stanford 6'5" 315 From Buffalo for our 4rd round pick plus either cash or a player to be named.)

#45) Alemeda Tamu NT, Washington 6’3” 350[/FONT][/FONT]

#81) Markelle Martin S, Okl Sate 6’1 210

#133) Brandon Lindsey OLB, Pitt 6’2 260

#152) David Molk C, Michigan 6’2 300

#186) Ronald Leary G, Memphis 6’3 315

#222) George Bryan TE, NC State, 6'5, 267 [/FONT]

Man after my own heart, JG needs you on the draft team. Jerry has a place for you. Super Bowl here we come!

Sorry, I get carried away sometimes. :)

[brooksey1]

By your logic, lets give up like 3 #1s, trade up to the 3rd pick or so, and make sure we get him.

Obviously you are interested in bashing the thread instead of really seeing the trade. My Hero.

:bow:

As you can see, we clearly will not give up our 3rd round pick much less 3 #1's??? Hello, anyone home? You make no sense. Im moving up four spots for the best guard in a decade. Im offering a 4th round pick and a player.

[Joe Rod]

I just don't see Dallas moving up for DeCastro. I could see Cox or even Barron, but I think they feel that they covered the Guard spot in FA well enough that they aren't going to trade up for him.

[brooksey1]

I just don't see Dallas moving up for DeCastro. I could see Cox or even Barron, but I think they feel that they covered the Guard spot in FA well enough that they aren't going to trade up for him.


You are probably right but im not sure if they are sold on both guards from FA or Arkin/Nagy plus we need a center.