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iceberg
04-25-2012, 12:20 AM
pop culture, or do you back up what you "fight for"

The grieving family of a Florida A&M drum major who died in a suspected hazing incident earlier this month is suing the school, their lawyer said.

Attorney Christopher Chestnut said Robert Champion's family is bringing the lawsuit against the historically black university in order to send a message about the dangers of hazing among college bands, Atlanta television station WXIA reported.

Champion, 26, was found in a parked band bus on Nov. 19 after the Tallahassee school lost to Bethune-Cookman in the Florida Classic football game.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-27/news/30448339_1_hazing-incident-julian-white-band-bus

if you wanna rage at what is wrong, don't pick and choose, rage.

iceberg
04-25-2012, 12:26 AM
why does this family deserve less than trayvon?

we all have only so much rage to give.

Future
04-25-2012, 10:19 AM
Give the family their money and move on. Hazing has been around forever, and no matter what happens, I don't think its going to go anywhere.

BrAinPaiNt
04-25-2012, 10:26 AM
why does this family deserve less than trayvon?

we all have only so much rage to give.

Why do we have to have multiple threads, posts or other incidents that happen and ask the question...why does (enter argument, incident or article) not get the same amount of rage as Trayvon?

Seems petty to me...but maybe that is just me and I don't have the energy for mock outrage over if something is not getting the same amount of coverage or outrage as the other case.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jessica Lynch got all of the attention while her fellow soldiers did not.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jon Benet Ramsey or Natalie Holloway got so much attention in the news for a long time while many other young girls were killed around the same time got little to no attention at all.

Again...maybe it is just me.:o:

Cajuncowboy
04-25-2012, 10:26 AM
why does this family deserve less than trayvon?

we all have only so much rage to give.

I think we need a Rhetorical font!

iceberg
04-25-2012, 10:28 AM
Why do we have to have multiple threads, posts or other incidents that happen and ask the question...why does (enter argument, incident or article) not get the same amount of rage as Trayvon?

Seems petty to me...but maybe that is just me and I don't have the energy for mock outrage over if something is not getting the same amount of coverage or outrage as the other case.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jessica Lynch got all of the attention while her fellow soldiers did not.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jon Benet Ramsey or Natalie Holloway got so much attention in the news for a long time while many other young girls were killed around the same time got little to no attention at all.

Again...maybe it is just me.:o:

i wouldn't disagree. we were just told to put them in new threads. :)

but i do get your point.

Cajuncowboy
04-25-2012, 10:29 AM
Why do we have to have multiple threads, posts or other incidents that happen and ask the question...why does (enter argument, incident or article) not get the same amount of rage as Trayvon?

Seems petty to me...but maybe that is just me and I don't have the energy for mock outrage over if something is not getting the same amount of coverage or outrage as the other case.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jessica Lynch got all of the attention while her fellow soldiers did not.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jon Benet Ramsey or Natalie Holloway got so much attention in the news for a long time while many other young girls were killed around the same time got little to no attention at all.

Again...maybe it is just me.:o:

Because there is no racial issues to it. I think the point is that because one death has the baiters all up in arms and it gets so much traction but yet, here is another young black man, killed at the hands of other black people, there isn't the rage. Again it proves that hypocrisy reigns on high and some folks hate having the mirror held up to their face.

vta
04-25-2012, 10:33 AM
Why do we have to have multiple threads, posts or other incidents that happen and ask the question...why does (enter argument, incident or article) not get the same amount of rage as Trayvon?

Seems petty to me...but maybe that is just me and I don't have the energy for mock outrage over if something is not getting the same amount of coverage or outrage as the other case.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jessica Lynch got all of the attention while her fellow soldiers did not.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jon Benet Ramsey or Natalie Holloway got so much attention in the news for a long time while many other young girls were killed around the same time got little to no attention at all.

Again...maybe it is just me.:o:

Rage is all the rage in this our day and age.
It doesn't requires a Brain so wise and full of sage,
to know that this day and age outrage is all the rage.

I find your lack of rage an utter outrage.
I hope you trip and fall and chip a tooth.

theogt
04-25-2012, 10:36 AM
Because allegations of racism aren't involved and the "victim" here most likely chose to participate in the hazing? Am I missing something, because these seem like two entirely different issues.

Joe Rod
04-25-2012, 10:39 AM
Because allegations of racism aren't involved and the "victim" here most likely chose to participate in the hazing? Am I missing something, because these seem like two entirely different issues.

You are missing your rage. ;)

BrAinPaiNt
04-25-2012, 10:41 AM
Because there is no racial issues to it. I think the point is that because one death has the baiters all up in arms and it gets so much traction but yet, here is another young black man, killed at the hands of other black people, there isn't the rage. Again it proves that hypocrisy reigns on high and some folks hate having the mirror held up to their face.

It's kind of funny how people complain about people bringing up race all the time and getting mad at it yet the same people who complain about it are some of the first to bring it up in other situations.

However i do give you credit, you are right...it does prove that Hypocrisy reigns on high and that some people hate having the mirror held up to their face.

WoodysGirl
04-25-2012, 10:41 AM
why does this family deserve less than trayvon?

we all have only so much rage to give.
This case is actually somewhat old and got alot of coverage in the African-American community...and yes there was quite alot of outrage when it first occurred.

Haven't read your article, but I'd hazard a guess that it's been a year since the young man's death. People are waiting on the outcome..

BrAinPaiNt
04-25-2012, 10:42 AM
Because allegations of racism aren't involved and the "victim" here most likely chose to participate in the hazing? Am I missing something, because these seem like two entirely different issues.

You are missing an excuse to show your outrage? ;)

WoodysGirl
04-25-2012, 10:46 AM
Why do we have to have multiple threads, posts or other incidents that happen and ask the question...why does (enter argument, incident or article) not get the same amount of rage as Trayvon?

Seems petty to me...but maybe that is just me and I don't have the energy for mock outrage over if something is not getting the same amount of coverage or outrage as the other case.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jessica Lynch got all of the attention while her fellow soldiers did not.

Just as I did not get so much outrage that Jon Benet Ramsey or Natalie Holloway got so much attention in the news for a long time while many other young girls were killed around the same time got little to no attention at all.

Again...maybe it is just me.:o:
It's not just you... I think it's the dumbest thing in the world to pull examples of other tragedies where the alleged have already been arrested or the legal process is running according to what's supposed to occur and then hold them up and accuse others for not having the same emotion.

People have said over and over that the issue for many was the initial lack of arrest and the seemingly lack of police action. Whatever "rage" I felt was due to those things. Now that an arrest has been and the wheels of justice of turning, I'm satisfied...and will continue to be satisfied regardless of the outcome.

Rack Bauer
04-25-2012, 10:50 AM
To this day reading this article makes me rage and if I were in Cookeville I'd give this officer what he deserves.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/471/TN/US/

vta
04-25-2012, 10:53 AM
To this day reading this article makes me rage and if I were in Cookeville I'd give this officer what he deserves.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/471/TN/US/

That sounds like something from a movie. It's surreal.

Joshmvii
04-25-2012, 10:55 AM
All I know is when I read the OP and saw the names Christopher Chestnut and Robert Champion, all I thought was somebody made up this story, because those aren't real names. :laugh2:

In other news, a man named Steven Domination just got in a scuffle with David Dominican over an argument about a woman they had a shared interest in named Peggy Peanuts.

Rack Bauer
04-25-2012, 10:59 AM
All I know is when I read the OP and saw the names Christopher Chestnut and Robert Champion, all I thought was somebody made up this story, because those aren't real names. :laugh2:

In other news, a man named Steven Domination just got in a scuffle with David Dominican over an argument about a woman they had a shared interest in named Peggy Peanuts.

There's an officer in my unit with the last name "Champion". It's not uncommon.

BrAinPaiNt
04-25-2012, 11:01 AM
There's an officer in my unit with the last name "Champion". It's not uncommon.

Ran into someone in our division that was named Capt Sargent or maybe it was Sgt Captain. Been 20 odd years ago since I was in the military but found it kind of funny and the guy joked that although it could be annoying, it could also be funny to watch some soldiers mix up his name.

Rack Bauer
04-25-2012, 11:14 AM
Ran into someone in our division that was named Capt Sargent or maybe it was Sgt Captain. Been 20 odd years ago since I was in the military but found it kind of funny and the guy joked that although it could be annoying, it could also be funny to watch some soldiers mix up his name.

My CO is "Captain Sargent".

:)

Cajuncowboy
04-25-2012, 11:18 AM
It's kind of funny how people complain about people bringing up race all the time and getting mad at it yet the same people who complain about it are some of the first to bring it up in other situations.

However i do give you credit, you are right...it does prove that Hypocrisy reigns on high and that some people hate having the mirror held up to their face.

Well, it would make more sense if it were allowed in the context of the ongoing Martin/Zimmerman case.

Cajuncowboy
04-25-2012, 11:20 AM
To this day reading this article makes me rage and if I were in Cookeville I'd give this officer what he deserves.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/471/TN/US/

I live about 60 miles from there but I don't remember this at all.

BrAinPaiNt
04-25-2012, 11:20 AM
My CO is "Captain Sargent".

:)

You would think he would have been promoted after 20+ years. :laugh2:

Yeagermeister
04-25-2012, 11:24 AM
My CO is "Captain Sargent".

:)

Better than Sgt Sargent :laugh2:

ScipioCowboy
04-25-2012, 11:38 AM
This case is actually somewhat old and got alot of coverage in the African-American community...and yes there was quite alot of outrage when it first occurred.

Haven't read your article, but I'd hazard a guess that it's been a year since the young man's death. People are waiting on the outcome..

Is the guess hazardous because it might fill someone with rage? :p:

CanadianCowboysFan
04-25-2012, 12:00 PM
It's not just you... I think it's the dumbest thing in the world to pull examples of other tragedies where the alleged have already been arrested or the legal process is running according to what's supposed to occur and then hold them up and accuse others for not having the same emotion.

People have said over and over that the issue for many was the initial lack of arrest and the seemingly lack of police action. Whatever "rage" I felt was due to those things. Now that an arrest has been and the wheels of justice of turning, I'm satisfied...and will continue to be satisfied regardless of the outcome.

bingo

if they had arrested and charged him in the first place, all the rage would have been cut off at the knees

Double Trouble
04-25-2012, 12:24 PM
The only reason any of us (unless there are people here who live in that town) heard of the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman incident, was because the media thought Zimmerman was white.

When it became known that Zimmerman was hispanic, the media had already committed to the story and couldn't turn back, so they started portraying Zimmerman in new terms, like "white-hispanic".

Cajuncowboy
04-25-2012, 12:39 PM
bingo

if they had arrested and charged him in the first place, all the rage would have been cut off at the knees

:rolleyes:

CowboyMcCoy
04-25-2012, 01:13 PM
I don't get angry, but I am amused by these ideas you come up with in your head and slogans. When you get stuck on something, you can really drive it home.

Rack Bauer
04-25-2012, 01:48 PM
You would think he would have been promoted after 20+ years. :laugh2:

Better than Sgt Sargent :laugh2:

My CO started off as enlisted, and at one point he was "Sgt. Sargent".

BrAinPaiNt
04-25-2012, 02:02 PM
My CO started off as enlisted, and at one point he was "Sgt. Sargent".

:laugh1: Guy plans to run the full gambit.

Just out of curiosity...Do you know how high of an NCO he was before going on to become an officer?

Rack Bauer
04-25-2012, 02:07 PM
:laugh1: Guy plans to run the full gambit.

Just out of curiosity...Do you know how high of an NCO he was before going on to become an officer?

Not 100% on this, but pretty sure he got as high as SSG.