Anyone else starting to think we might trade up for Barron

[CATCH17]

That we are looking to trade up for Mark Barron?


I have a feeling the Cowboys are set on getting Mark Barron and the more I think about it the more I think the Chiefs or Bills are going to pull the trigger on Barron.

[Muhast]

I think we all HOPE that is true.

[NeonDeion21]

If it only costs us #81 and we get a 5th or 6th back I am okay with it. At the end of the day you want to find the best players to restock your team.

[a_minimalist]

I hope so. I don't think the Bills are going to. I think we have to move up to stop other teams from moving up before us to get him.

[Mr Cowboy]

Nope, all smoke. He will be available at 14. All these teams that are ahead of Dallas are trying to get Dallas to trade with them. Barron and DeCastro will be there, and Dallas will have to make a choice between them two.

[supercowboy8]

That we are looking to trade up for Mark Barron?


I have a feeling the Cowboys are set on getting Mark Barron and the more I think about it the more I think the Chiefs or Bills are going to pull the trigger on Barron since they have to face the Pats TE's twice a year.

I don't think the bills will pass on a LB,CB, or OT for a safety. If Minnisota trades back or passes on Kalil the Bills will jump up for Kalil in a heart beat.

Now the Chiefs may take Barron depending on who is there. I think if one of the top 4 players is left at 11 Dallas should trade up. Why not trade up three spots to get your guy besides settling for a player at 14 or trading back and not getting a different maker.

I'm all for trading up to get Barron, Ingram, Cox, or DeCastro to make sure we get a difference maker, but I don't want to give u to much to do so. 11 is the highest I would move up unless 8 or 10 is willing to take a similar deal.

[Rynie]

I hope they move up and grab Cox. :D

[CATCH17]

Nope, all smoke. He will be available at 14. All these teams that are ahead of Dallas are trying to get Dallas to trade with them. Barron and DeCastro will be there, and Dallas will have to make a choice between them two.

Did you mean Barron and Brockers will be there?

[Jenky]

That we are looking to trade up for Mark Barron?


I have a feeling the Cowboys are set on getting Mark Barron and the more I think about it the more I think the Chiefs or Bills are going to pull the trigger on Barron.

If they want him, they'll trade for him and I think it's going to happen. Everyone in the world knows Dallas will take him at 14. Dallas has to know other teams are looking to undercut.

[MichaelWinicki]

Boy, could it happen?

You bet.

Do I think it will happen?

No.

[supercowboy8]

If the guy Dallas really wants at 14 is there at 11 or 12 then Dallas should jump up and take their guy. Would would loose a 4th round pick and looking at dallas' history on 4th round picks then I would say do it.

[Jenky]

If the guy Dallas really wants at 14 is there at 11 or 12 then Dallas should jump up and take their guy. Would would loose a 4th round pick and looking at dallas' history on 4th round picks then I would say do it.

I don't think a 4th round pick cuts it, but we have two anyways, don't we?

[theogt]

Enough rumblings of it being a possibility that I think we could do it. I also think other teams are spreading rumors of moving up to get him in order to force our hand, when in fact it's likely he'll be sitting at 14 if we sit put.

[a_minimalist]

I don't think the bills will pass on a LB,CB, or OT for a safety. If Minnisota trades back or passes on Kalil the Bills will jump up for Kalil in a heart beat.

Now the Chiefs may take Barron depending on who is there. I think if one of the top 4 players is left at 11 Dallas should trade up. Why not trade up three spots to get your guy besides settling for a player at 14 or trading back and not getting a different maker.

I'm all for trading up to get Barron, Ingram, Cox, or DeCastro to make sure we get a difference maker, but I don't want to give u to much to do so. 11 is the highest I would move up unless 8 or 10 is willing to take a similar deal.

The bills might take Reiff at 10. I really don't see them moving anywhere.

[Teague31]

Casserly reported earlier buffalo might try to move up to 3 and take Kalil

[Sasquatch]

Nope, all smoke. He will be available at 14. All these teams that are ahead of Dallas are trying to get Dallas to trade with them. Barron and DeCastro will be there, and Dallas will have to make a choice between them two.

I believe this is the case as well. I think its more likely that we'd move down for Kirkpatrick or Upshaw than trade up for Barron.

[fanfromvirginia]

I think we all HOPE that is true.
You do?

[ddh33]

I still believe that barring someone trading up for him, Barron is available at #14 to be picked by Dallas.

[pupulehaole]

Woooooooooooooooo CAN'T WAITTTTTT!!!!

[Alexander]

I think we all HOPE that is true.
No, we don't.

Trading up in a talent-depleted first round and giving up choices where the draft is strong is a completely ignorant strategy. Barron is good, but not that good.

[theogt]

No, we don't.

Trading up in a talent-depleted first round and giving up choices where the draft is strong is a completely ignorant strategy. Barron is good, but not that good.This is pretty far from a talent depleted first round, but that's EXACTLY when you do want to trade up. When there's depth in the draft you want quanity of picks. When there's a lack of talent, you need to focus on the quality players.

[Risen Star]

I think we all HOPE that is true.

Speak for yourself. I would hate it.

[Alexander]

This is pretty far from a talent depleted first round, but that's EXACTLY when you do want to trade up. When there's depth in the draft you want quanity of picks. When there's a lack of talent, you need to focus on the quality players.

The quality players in a bottom heavy draft are not worth giving up choices where the draft is strong.

In a normal year, a player like Mark Barron is not a player likely to go in the top ten. People now are just trying to convince themselves he is somehow better than he has demonstrated. In most drafts, he is a mid first round pick. Trading up for that is just ignorant.

[Mr Cowboy]

Did you mean Barron and Brockers will be there?

Barron, DeCastro and Brockers will be there at 14........

[CATCH17]

The quality players in a bottom heavy draft are not worth giving up choices where the draft is strong.

In a normal year, a player like Mark Barron is not a player likely to go in the top ten. People now are just trying to convince themselves he is somehow better than he has demonstrated. In most drafts, he is a mid first round pick. Trading up for that is just ignorant.

Did you see Schefters report earlier about Barron?

Some teams have him rated as high as the 6th best player in this draft and he pretty much guaranteed he isn't available @14

[theogt]

Did you see Schefters report earlier about Barron?

Some teams have him rated as high as the 6th best player in this draft and he pretty much guaranteed he isn't available @14Casserly had him above prospects like Earl Thomas, LaRon Landry, Michael Huff and Donte Whitner too, if we want to compare him to other drafts.

[RS12]

No I dont.

[dmq]

I want to trade up, but for Cox.

[Risen Star]

Hopefully the head coach can convince the GM not to overreact. Let the process work itself out and see who is there at 14.

[CATCH17]

Hopefully the head coach can convince the GM not to overreact. Let the process work itself out and see who is there at 14.


What if Barron is the guy they really want though?

[Zimmy Lives]

That we are looking to trade up for Mark Barron?


I have a feeling the Cowboys are set on getting Mark Barron and the more I think about it the more I think the Chiefs or Bills are going to pull the trigger on Barron.

No. If they trade up it will be for Cox.

[Risen Star]

What if Barron is the guy they really want though?

Barron is the one guy they want in this draft?

I'd say that's some pretty faulty and narrow minded scouting.

[Zimmy Lives]

No, we don't.

Trading up in a talent-depleted first round and giving up choices where the draft is strong is a completely ignorant strategy. Barron is good, but not that good.

Amen, brother!

[Risen Star]

What's funny is I listened to a lot of Eagles fans on the radio today talking about how they had to get in front of Dallas to get Barron. No way did they want to see him twice a year in Cowboy colors.

[Muhast]

You do?

Yes, I do. Hopefully to 11 or 12. Not a major trade.

No, we don't.

Trading up in a talent-depleted first round and giving up choices where the draft is strong is a completely ignorant strategy. Barron is good, but not that good.

Just because you disagree, that doesn't make it ignorant. There is a reason that Philly,San Diego, NYJ and others want to trade up for him. He is a really good prospect. But I suppose you know better than the other teams GM's as well. They must also be ignorant.:rolleyes: Some fans are here crack me up. They always think their opinion is the only right one and the rest are idiots.

[Zimmy Lives]

Yes, I do. Hopefully to 11 or 12. Not a major trade.



Just because you disagree, that doesn't make it ignorant. There is a reason that Philly,San Diego, NYJ and others want to trade up for him. He is a really good prospect. But I suppose you know better than the other teams GM's as well. They must also be ignorant.:rolleyes: Some fans are here crack me up. They always think their opinion is the only right one and the rest are idiots.

Let's see if anyone trades up for him....

[28 Joker]

I think Barron is likely gone by 14, and I don't think Dallas will trade up.

I think Dallas will take DeCastro or Brockers at 14.

If DeCastro, Brockers, Poe, Kirkpatrick, and Upshaw are all on the board at 14, Dallas could possibly move down. However, I don't think they can afford to move very far down at all. All those guys could fly off the board pretty fast.

I could be wrong, but it feels like DeCastro VS Brockers to me.

[Muhast]

Let's see if anyone trades up for him....


The reports are several GMS have Barron as the 6th best player in the draft, Mayock has him at #7 overall.

If he is available and we only have to move up a few spots, say 11-12 overall, do it. If we need to move to 6-7? No thanks.

[GloryDaysRBack]

I said it was very likely wed move up in my final mock yesterday. this has been in the plans all along as a possibility

[a_minimalist]

Barron is the one guy they want in this draft?

I'd say that's some pretty faulty and narrow minded scouting.

Well what if DeCastro and Cox are gone by 11. Would you rather trade down or move up 3 spots and lose a 3rd rounder to #11 and take Barron?

[Hostile]

I absolutely believe that we are moving up to Miami's #8 spot to take Mark Barron. I posted a hypothetical thread a couple of days ago. It wasn't by chance. I pray he is our next Darren Woodson. He certainly has the tools.

I then want Amini Silatou at 45.

[a_minimalist]

The reports are several GMS have Barron as the 6th best player in the draft, Mayock has him at #7 overall.

If he is available and we only have to move up a few spots, say 11-12 overall, do it. If we need to move to 6-7? No thanks.

I say we call the Bills bluff. If he is available after their pick, we hop up and snag him at #11.

[RoyTheHammer]

I think we all HOPE that is true.

Im pretty sure if we're all in our right minds.. you're incorrect.

[a_minimalist]

I absolutely believe that we are moving up to Miami's #8 spot to take Mark Barron. I posted a hypothetical thread a couple of days ago. It wasn't by chance. I pray he is our next Darren Woodson. He certainly has the tools.

It makes me very happy to see someone like you say that. I was all about DeCastro until about 2-3 days ago. Barron is looking more and more like a stud whenever I watch videos with him in it. He looks exactly like he could be the next Darren Woodson which would make a huge difference on D.

Barron/Silatolu would be INSANE!!!!!

[Hostile]

It makes me very happy to see someone like you say that. I was all about DeCastro until about 2-3 days ago. Barron is looking more and more like a stud whenever I watch videos with him in it. He looks exactly like he could be the next Darren Woodson which would make a huge difference on D.I prefer DeCastro. I would rather take Harrison Smith in the 2nd.

[Muhast]

Im pretty sure if we're all in our right minds.. you're incorrect.


Again, I want us to move up a few spots if neccesary. I don't want us trading into the top 10. I am willing to move up to 11-12, if it ensures we don't get leap frogged for him.

Anything further would be too costly for me.

[a_minimalist]

I prefer DeCastro. I would rather take Harrison Smith in the 2nd.

I want to hear that so I'm going to pretend it wasn't said. Lol

[RoyTheHammer]

I absolutely believe that we are moving up to Miami's #8 spot to take Mark Barron. I posted a hypothetical thread a couple of days ago. It wasn't by chance. I pray he is our next Darren Woodson. He certainly has the tools.

I then want Amini Silatou at 45.

Darren Woodson wouldn't be able to play in today's NFL.. and if we trade up to 8, i doubt we have 45 anymore.

[CATCH17]

Darren Woodson wouldn't be able to play in today's NFL.. and if we trade up to 8, i doubt we have 45 anymore.

Lollll

The same Darren Woodson that guarded slot receivers couldn't play in today's NFL?

[Hostile]

Darren Woodson wouldn't be able to play in today's NFL.. and if we trade up to 8, i doubt we have 45 anymore.:laugh2:

[RoyTheHammer]

Lollll

The same Darren Woodson that guarded slot receivers couldn't play in today's NFL?

Not without being able to hit people, no.

[CATCH17]

Not without being able to hit people, no.

I gotta disagree man. He is and IMO will always be the prototype for the SS position.

[RoyTheHammer]

I gotta disagree man. He is and IMO will always be the prototype for the SS position.

Haha, alright i may have misspoke. Im sure he could still be a player, but he wouldn't be the player we all remember and love without being able to lay people out.

[Gaede]

I could live w/ a trade up to 8 to get Barron. I assume Miami is trading down to get Tannehill. Seems reasonable

[cowboyuptx]

Nope, all smoke. He will be available at 14. All these teams that are ahead of Dallas are trying to get Dallas to trade with them. Barron and DeCastro will be there, and Dallas will have to make a choice between them two.

Agree... Just a couple of weeks ago the buzz was that Barron at 14 would be a reach, and from the film I've seen, he isn't worth #14, not that I'm some sort of expert scout...

I really don't want Barron... I'm not with burning a top-15 pick on a Safety that doesn't excel in coverage...

The only player I feel is worth moving up to pick is Melvin Ingram...

[Beast_from_East]

I could live w/ a trade up to 8 to get Barron. I assume Miami is trading down to get Tannehill. Seems reasonable


14 to 8 is going to cost us a 3rd and probably a 4th as well.


If we go up, it better be for a pass rusher like Cox. Giving up multiple picks to move into the top 10 to draft a safety is unheard of.

[Zaxor]

I absolutely believe that we are moving up to Miami's #8 spot to take Mark Barron. I posted a hypothetical thread a couple of days ago. It wasn't by chance. I pray he is our next Darren Woodson. He certainly has the tools.

I then want Amini Silatou at 45.

this ^ I think Silatou is still a bit raw but a very powerful man and with proper coaching is going to be ALL pro...Barron gives the defense a chance to run Rob Ryans scheme...I am just hoping by some lucky fate that Wolfe can make it to our 3rd pick

with

Barron
Silatou
Wolfe
this would REALLY help the Cowboys..I like all three of these players very much

if we could add
Haywood and a center prospect man what an amazing haul that would be

[CATCH17]

this ^ I think Silatou is still a bit raw but a very powerful man and with proper coaching is going to be ALL pro...Barron gives the defense a chance to run Rob Ryans scheme...I am just hoping by some lucky fate that Wolfe can make it to our 3rd pick

with

Barron
Silatou
Wolfe
this would REALLY help the Cowboys..I like all three of these players very much

if we could add
Haywood and a center prospect man what an amazing haul that would be


They are talking about Wolfe creeping up into the 1st round.

[InmanRoshi]

I don't mind trading up for Barron, but I would target pick #11. I'm not in favor of trading the compensation needed to get inside the Top 10.

There's a beat writer in Buffalo that covers the Bills that has successfully picked the last 4 Buffalo first round draft picks, and he said Buffalo is taking Kuechly if he's there. Norm said he head the same thing from a source. I could see Dave Wannstedt liking Kuechly, he's a perfect chase LB for his 4-3 scheme.

Kansas City is said to like Kuechly at #11, so that takes their player off the board. They would probably be willing to trade the pick cheap to Dallas to fall back 3 spots. They probably have DeCastro/Poe/Brockers rated about evenly, and one of them will definitely be there at #14.