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CowboyChris
04-26-2012, 10:41 PM
Gilmore to Buffalo at #10?

Poe to KC...ahead of Cox, Brockers and Ingram

Irvin to Seattle....what a reach!!

Weeden to Cleveland at 22?? he wouldve been there for them in the 2nd

AJ Jenkins to SF...after all the FA WR signings? Moss and Manningham.

Martin to TB....with Blount on the roster

RS12
04-26-2012, 10:43 PM
Seattle. Took a 3rd rounder at 15. Al Davis smiling from the war room in the sky.

hornitosmonster
04-26-2012, 10:45 PM
A ND WR to Az given their oline and pass rush needs.

I think STL tried to be slick and got caught

JackWagon
04-26-2012, 10:46 PM
AJ Jenkins to SF tells me all i need to know about how Michael Crabtree is thought of by his new coach.

skinsscalper
04-26-2012, 10:46 PM
Washington. 3 1st rounders is too much to pay for any player.

Wulfman
04-26-2012, 10:46 PM
Gilmore to Buffalo at #10?

Poe to KC...ahead of Cox, Brockers and Ingram

Irvin to Seattle....what a reach!!

Weeden to Cleveland at 22?? he wouldve been there for them in the 2nd

AJ Jenkins to SF...after all the FA WR signings? Moss and Manningham.

Martin to TB....with Blount on the roster

I'll agree on everything but the first and the last points. Gilmore was widely considered the second best corner in the draft, and was in a number of top 10s. So taking him at 10 really isn't a reach.

As for Doug Martin going to Tampa, I can't fault them. Blount was really special at times, but he also had ball security issues as well as injuries. They want a 3-down guy who can take the pressure off of Freeman and the passing game, and Martin is the best guy aside from Richardson to help them do that. They also took him about where he was rated, so solid value.

theogt
04-26-2012, 10:47 PM
Giants picking David Wilson.

InmanRoshi
04-26-2012, 10:48 PM
AJ Jenkins to SF tells me all i need to know about how Michael Crabtree is thought of by his new coach.

Yep. As if we didn't need to know anymore by pulling Moss out of retirement.

Wulfman
04-26-2012, 10:48 PM
Washington. 3 1st rounders is too much to pay for any player.

They actually gave up two 1st rounders and a second rounder, and swapped their own first rounder for the Rams'. Still, I agree it's a steep price for anyone.

skinsscalper
04-26-2012, 10:49 PM
They actually gave up two 1st rounders and a second rounder, and swapped their own first rounder for the Rams'. Still, I agree it's a steep price for anyone.


you are correct, my bad.

Oh_Canada
04-26-2012, 10:50 PM
They actually gave up two 1st rounders and a second rounder, and swapped their own first rounder for the Rams'. Still, I agree it's a steep price for anyone.

It's not to steep for a franchise QB.

RS12
04-26-2012, 10:50 PM
AJ Jenkins to SF tells me all i need to know about how Michael Crabtree is thought of by his new coach.

If you are gonna be a diva, you better be a difference maker. Did he even play in that play off loss to the Gnats?

JackWagon
04-26-2012, 10:50 PM
i friggin HATE The cards pick ... damn you dont go WR when you need D Line and O line so badly. *shrug* thats why they are the cards

StanleySpadowski
04-26-2012, 10:51 PM
For where they were picking, Cincinatti screwed the pooch the worst after Seattle. Basically traded Decastro for Zeitler and a late rounder.

Cleveland also didn't let the board come to them. They were picking Weeden regardless of what happened and left some talent on the board. Kind of disappointing for them because they made Richardson happen.

Wulfman
04-26-2012, 10:52 PM
It's not to steep for a franchise QB.

Depends on who you ask, and if he's the only franchise QB that would be available with any of those picks. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl, maybe all you need is a serviceable guy who has a dominant team around him. The team doesn't get to be dominant, though if you trade away all of the top picks for the next couple of years.

skinsscalper
04-26-2012, 10:54 PM
For where they were picking, Cincinatti screwed the pooch the worst after Seattle. Basically traded Decastro for Zeitler and a late rounder.

Cleveland also didn't let the board come to them. They were picking Weeden regardless of what happened and left some talent on the board. Kind of disappointing for them because they made Richardson happen.

I think Weeden is going to end up being a pretty good player, actually. If he starts and the Browns play decent this year, then it was a great pick. Holmgren is a pretty good talent evaluator at the QB position. Just MHO.

Chocolate Lab
04-26-2012, 10:57 PM
Jacksonville... Don't think Blackmon will help them that much.

Giants... Seemed like they were set on a RB and when Martin went they just took the next guy.

SF... Not sure about the guy they took. Again, felt like they targeted a position, which is risky.

CowboyChris
04-26-2012, 11:00 PM
Jacksonville... Don't think Blackmon will help them that much.

Giants... Seemed like they were set on a RB and when Martin went they just took the next guy.

SF... Not sure about the guy they took. Again, felt like they targeted a position, which is risky.

that seems true but Wilson reminds me of Lesean McCoy

InmanRoshi
04-26-2012, 11:00 PM
Tampa Bay, and I liked Barron. They had an opportunity to grab one of the 5-6 real blue chippers in this draft. They traded down 2 spots for a measily 4th round pick to take a 2nd tier player in Barron at 7, and I didn't suspect anyone was treatening to take him in that range. A lot of people here acted like they were going to vomit all over themselves if the Cowboys moved up a few spots to take Barron at 11.

Doug Martin is a nice player, but he's going to be a platoon back, and I don't take a part time platoon back with a 1st round pick, much less use a 2nd and a 3rd to move up for him.

big dog cowboy
04-26-2012, 11:00 PM
Kc, Sf, Cle

Aikbach
04-26-2012, 11:01 PM
Seattle and Miami both stand high chances of buyers remorse

skinsscalper
04-26-2012, 11:01 PM
Jacksonville... Don't think Blackmon will help them that much.

Giants... Seemed like they were set on a RB and when Martin went they just took the next guy.

SF... Not sure about the guy they took. Again, felt like they targeted a position, which is risky.

I'm really surprised that SF didn't trade down and target Silatolu or Fleener. Fleener and Davis would have been a nightmare match up. Especially since the 9ers signed Moss and Manningham this off-season. Tells you all you need to knwo about what they think of Crabtree. I remember wanting that guy so bad when he came out. Thank God Jerry didn't sell out to get him, like I hoped that he would.

cowboysooner
04-26-2012, 11:03 PM
Seattle. Took a 3rd rounder at 15. Al Davis smiling from the war room in the sky.

:bow: :lmao2:

cowboysooner
04-26-2012, 11:05 PM
The Bengals. They essentially traded DeCastro for #98 and Zeitler. I like Zeitler alot but I'd rather have DeCastro.

InmanRoshi
04-26-2012, 11:07 PM
The Bengals. They essentially traded DeCastro for #98 and Zeitler. I like Zeitler alot but I'd rather have DeCastro.

I think it depends on what kind of scheme you use. If you're using a staight ahead man blocking scheme, which the Bengals do, I actually liked Zeitler better than DeCastro as a pure in-line mauler. If you're going to have your linemen zoning, moving around and combo blocking, DeCastro was a much better player. Overall, I didn't see that large of a disparity between the two, despite DeCastro's hype.

CowboyChris
04-26-2012, 11:09 PM
The Bengals. They essentially traded DeCastro for #98 and Zeitler. I like Zeitler alot but I'd rather have DeCastro.

lets see who #98 turns out to be

cowboy_ron
04-26-2012, 11:16 PM
Gilmore to Buffalo at #10?

Poe to KC...ahead of Cox, Brockers and Ingram

Irvin to Seattle....what a reach!!

Weeden to Cleveland at 22?? he wouldve been there for them in the 2nd

AJ Jenkins to SF...after all the FA WR signings? Moss and Manningham.

Martin to TB....with Blount on the roster
The worst by far

Questfor6
04-26-2012, 11:37 PM
The Browns could have had Decastro to pair with Thomas instead they take a QB who almost has his AARP card that was dumb. I was watching the draft with a die-hard Browns fan & he blew up pissed on that one.

Miami was another dumb one just b/c the way the draft was playing out they could have had Tannehill later on & got some extra picks to boot.

AJ Jenkins=huge reach I was almost certain Stephen Hill was the pick.

SilverStarCowboy
04-26-2012, 11:42 PM
Jenkins to SF or Weeden to Browns it's a toss up.

Leadbelly
04-26-2012, 11:52 PM
Weeden all the way. By the time he gets up to speed as an NFL QB, he'll be 30+. Reached for a need and got a backup QB.

DFWJC
04-27-2012, 12:04 AM
I vote Jenkins to SF or, value wise, Irvin to Seattle,

I can,t believe you included Gilmore on that list

DFWJC
04-27-2012, 12:07 AM
The Bengals. They essentially traded DeCastro for #98 and Zeitler. I like Zeitler alot but I'd rather have DeCastro.

They did get Kirkpatrick in rd 1 too

InmanRoshi
04-27-2012, 12:20 AM
You would think coming off a lockerroom implosion the Jets wouldd stay away from a player who quit on his team in college.

ninja
04-27-2012, 12:28 AM
I would not be a happy camper if I were a Cleveland Brown fan right now.

They could have had Richardson at #4. No need to trade up imo.

And Weeden?

There is some reason Cleveland continues to suck year after year, no matter who the coach is, no matter who the GM is. I have no idea what that reason is, though.

Oh, well. Cleveland will have a do-over next year. They will be drafting again in the top 5.

CowboyChris
04-27-2012, 12:29 AM
I vote Jenkins to SF or, value wise, Irvin to Seattle,

I can,t believe you included Gilmore on that list

im just a little suprised he went in the top 10

PullMyFinger
04-27-2012, 01:27 AM
Giants picking David Wilson.

He was picked around where he was supposed to be picked, the kid can ball, I've seen him in person.

bkight13
04-27-2012, 01:27 AM
They actually gave up two 1st rounders and a second rounder, and swapped their own first rounder for the Rams'. Still, I agree it's a steep price for anyone.

That's still 3-1st rounders and a 2nd for 1-1st rounder. I've seen many people try to make your argument, but it's not correct. And it is still too steep, IMO.

GermanCowboy
04-27-2012, 03:36 AM
I think it depends on what kind of scheme you use. If you're using a staight ahead man blocking scheme, which the Bengals do, I actually liked Zeitler better than DeCastro as a pure in-line mauler. If you're going to have your linemen zoning, moving around and combo blocking, DeCastro was a much better player. Overall, I didn't see that large of a disparity between the two, despite DeCastro's hype.

I think you are dead-on regarding Zeitler. If you listen to Paul Alexander, the Bengals O-Line Coach, they never really thought about DeCastro but wanted Zeitler all along because of their scheme.

Apparently Zeitler is quite a good Center, too. They want Zeitler to be the starting RG and Backup-Center where DeCastro is a pure (but maybe better?) Guard.

If all that is the case, trading back makes perfect sense. But if DeCastro becomes a much better player than Zeitler and Pick #93 it will be a bad decision.

But that would be hindsight at this point.

The Realist
04-27-2012, 03:40 AM
Poe, Irvin, Boise OLB/DE, Jenkins.....especially the last 3.

rwalters31
04-27-2012, 03:55 AM
For where they were picking, Cincinatti screwed the pooch the worst after Seattle. Basically traded Decastro for Zeitler and a late rounder.

Cleveland also didn't let the board come to them. They were picking Weeden regardless of what happened and left some talent on the board. Kind of disappointing for them because they made Richardson happen.

You know what really toast my bacon, Pittsburgh gets the one player that makes them a pick for the Supper Bowl (I hate Pittsburgh).

Why do the rich get richer?????:eek::(:confused::mad::rolleyes:

The Realist
04-27-2012, 03:59 AM
You know what really toast my bacon, Pittsburgh gets the one player that makes them a pick for the Supper Bowl (I hate Pittsburgh).

Why do the rich get richer?????:eek::(:confused::mad::rolleyes:

Their tackles are absolutely awful.

fanfromvirginia
04-27-2012, 05:35 AM
Tough choice -- thre were several true head scrachers. I will go with Seattle. That is hard to beat.

GroundUp
04-27-2012, 06:25 AM
But Seattle by a landslide. Then maybe SF and Giants.

Chuck 54
04-27-2012, 06:28 AM
Giants picking David Wilson.

Check...decent back who fumbles a lot...they could have done better.

Bowdown27
04-27-2012, 07:56 AM
I'm sorry but I know the rams stockpiled picks for today and years to come but dropped back to rom number 2 to 14 for brockers is to me a loss

Teague31
04-27-2012, 08:02 AM
thought SF should have taken fleener to pair with davis. seems like taking the #1 TE would have helped their passing attack more than than #4 WR.

MichaelWinicki
04-27-2012, 08:22 AM
I liked New England's second pick better than their first.

Sam I Am
04-27-2012, 08:41 AM
Seattle. Took a 3rd rounder at 15. Al Davis smiling from the war room in the sky.

Not even close. Poe is the worst pick.

Irvin (if he stays out of trouble) could be one of the best pass rushers to come out of this draft.

Besides, a lot of people had Irvin sneaking into the bottom half of the 1st round. (just not all the way to #15)

kevinhickey
04-27-2012, 08:53 AM
I think Seattle made the wrong choice in the draft. I didn't mind the trade with Philadelphia because they were targeting a pass rusher; however, they could of traded down several times (because of the amount of pass rusher that were left on the board) or selected someone else then select Irvin in rounds 2 or 3. Mayock was noted as saying that this guy is a situational pass rusher and that he is not as good against the run. To me, why draft a guy in the first round if you can't put him on the field on all 3 downs.

The other pick that bothered me was Cleveland taking Weeden with their 2nd first rounder. They could of selected him in round 2. Will Weeden even see the field? He may be 30 by the time he starts. Cleveland may be looking at a franchise QB again next year.

Chocolate Lab
04-27-2012, 09:05 AM
I still think people are underestimating Weeden, for some reason. He's very good. The age is the only real knock on him, and even that is way overblown. No way he'd have made it much lower than he did.

If anything it was a good move. Colt McCoy isn't a pro QB.

SilverStarCowboy
04-27-2012, 09:41 AM
Tampa got leap frogged and settled for Barron.

Chocolate Lab
04-27-2012, 09:44 AM
I think you are dead-on regarding Zeitler. If you listen to Paul Alexander, the Bengals O-Line Coach, they never really thought about DeCastro but wanted Zeitler all along because of their scheme.

Apparently Zeitler is quite a good Center, too. They want Zeitler to be the starting RG and Backup-Center where DeCastro is a pure (but maybe better?) Guard.

If all that is the case, trading back makes perfect sense. But if DeCastro becomes a much better player than Zeitler and Pick #93 it will be a bad decision.

But that would be hindsight at this point.

Hey, like the ticker said last night, the team that has drafted the most Pro Bowlers the last two years? The Bengals. So maybe they know what they're doing now.

Also LOL that Decastro makes Pitt the Superbowl favorite. I can't remember the last time I saw such incredible mancrushing.

DallasInDC
04-27-2012, 09:57 AM
They actually gave up two 1st rounders and a second rounder, and swapped their own first rounder for the Rams'. Still, I agree it's a steep price for anyone.

I still consider it to be 3 first Rd picks and a 2nd Rd pick for one player instead of 4 players had they not made the trade. That's a lot to give up even for a franchise QB.

CowboyChris
04-27-2012, 02:57 PM
Tampa got leap frogged and settled for Barron.

Jax leaped in front of the Rams for Blackmon, which essentially made the Rams call us for pick #6