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cowboyjoe
04-27-2012, 10:17 AM
@espn_macmahon: Source tells @calvinwatkins that Cowboys probably won't trade Jenkins unless they get significant value.

Now this is what I was asking Sdogo and trying to get him to see what I was saying about trading jenkins later, first you cant trade players duing the draft because value of picks are sky high, but wait till jenkins shoulder is properly healed. Then, either during preseason or first 4-7 games of regular season let Jenkins show he is fully well. Also what this will allow the cowboys to do is march out 3 top CBS, Carr, Claiborne, Jenkins with Scandrick covering the slot wr, which will most likely allow jenkins to get some big time interceptions after teams refuse to throw at Carr or Claiborne.

Then, you could probably trade Jenkins for a 2nd, or hopefully a first or 2nd and 4th in 2013. This will give us the best coverage backfield in the NFL, bar no other team will have this kind of talented dbs. Remember now, years ago, the 49ers did this way back, picking 3 dbs in one draft and they went to the superbowl. This coverage by the 3 top cbs and scandrick will also allow more time for our pass rushers to get to the QB.

Now, spencer has to step up, their will be no more excuses. Will there be a learning curve with young rookie claiborne and carr if he has to switch to a side he hasnt played? Yes! But the benefits in time will allow us to have a shut down secondary, if pool the safety can play.

Kangaroo
04-27-2012, 10:20 AM
I said it after we drafted Claiborne as soon as one of the better CB gets lost in the preseason/camp due to injury Jenkins will have more value

Avery
04-27-2012, 10:20 AM
Jenkins is not worth trading for what we can get for him. I'd rather rent him for a year vs. giving him away for a 6th round pick.

Arch Stanton
04-27-2012, 10:26 AM
Albert Breer ‏ @AlbertBreer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Couple execs think the Cowboys could get around a fourth-round pick for Mike Jenkins. Not sure if that'd be worth it for Dallas.

SDogo
04-27-2012, 10:29 AM
Albert Breer ‏ @AlbertBreer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Couple execs think the Cowboys could get around a fourth-round pick for Mike Jenkins. Not sure if that'd be worth it for Dallas.

That will be a haul for Jenkins on draft day. Players just dont carry value at this point in the draft.

Sam I Am
04-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Jenkins is worth a whole lot more as CB insurance than he is in trade value.

btcutter
04-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Forget trading Jenkins.

3rd and long. We got 4 good CB's (ok, 3 with 1 ok Scandrick) going to man up and blitz the crap out of you forcing you to get rid of the ball in less than 3 sec.

cowboy_ron
04-27-2012, 10:36 AM
Jenkins is worth a whole lot more as CB insurance than he is in trade value.
You have to also factor in what kind of attitude will Jenkins have this year knowing chances are good that they will not attempt to re-sign him

InmanRoshi
04-27-2012, 10:37 AM
Jenkins is not worth trading for what we can get for him. I'd rather rent him for a year vs. giving him away for a 6th round pick.

Exactly. What he provides as depth for a year is worth more than just selling him off at his lowest of low values.

CATCH17
04-27-2012, 10:40 AM
I want a 3rd for Jenkins.

I'd rather keep him for a year than give him away for a 4th.

BIGDen
04-27-2012, 10:40 AM
Jenkins is worth a whole lot more as CB insurance than he is in trade value.

Amen. We're finally deep there. We do not need to thin it out.

Sasquatch
04-27-2012, 10:43 AM
When did VR become so sensible? I would definitely hold on to Jenkins for a while even if the ultimate goal is to move him. His value will only increase as the season draws nears and his injury heals.

SDogo
04-27-2012, 10:44 AM
I want a 3rd for Jenkins.

I'd rather keep him for a year than give him away for a 4th.

That the least I would accept, not sure they can find a team desperate enough to do it but I bet Dallas would if they did. They could easily get back into the 2nd and possibly still have a 3rd if they do.

StanleySpadowski
04-27-2012, 10:45 AM
Wow, that's some hard hitting journalism there.

A team won't trade a player unless they get value for him?

That type of thinking is probably going to revolutionize the NFL.

Rynie
04-27-2012, 10:47 AM
You have to also factor in what kind of attitude will Jenkins have this year knowing chances are good that they will not attempt to re-sign him
He'll have to play hard, since he's in a contract year. He's playing for his NEXT contract, even though it won't be the Cowboys giving it to him.

Romo 2 Austin
04-27-2012, 10:49 AM
Anything less than a 3rd and im not listening. When you consider if we keep him for the year and lose we would get either a 3rd or a 4th rounder in supplemental we are better off renting him for this year.

CCBoy
04-27-2012, 10:49 AM
What, trade Jenkins and bring back Ball? No thanks, let change come next season...and naturally.

Kangaroo
04-27-2012, 10:52 AM
If they can get the offer or package him in to move up from the fourth to the 2nd round I could see the cowboys doing that trade.

cowboy_ron
04-27-2012, 10:55 AM
That the least I would accept, not sure they can find a team desperate enough to do it but I bet Dallas would if they did. They could easily get back into the 2nd and possibly still have a 3rd if they do.
I have wanted quality over quantity all along..I mean if we could trade back into the 2nd even giving up the late rd picks where we just had a 1st, 2nd and 3rd..if they were all day one starters I would say that was a pretty successful draft...most of the time that's all you can expect out of a full 7 rd draft

big dog cowboy
04-27-2012, 10:56 AM
I want a 3rd for Jenkins.

I'd rather keep him for a year than give him away for a 4th.

:hammer:

Duane
04-27-2012, 10:59 AM
Albert Breer made the point that if Jenkins plays well this year that he'll fetch a comp pick in next year's draft. So you don't want to give him away for nothing.

fanfromvirginia
04-27-2012, 11:02 AM
I wouldn't do it for a 4th alone but if that 4th were the difference somehow between us getting either Konz or Glenn or not then I think I would.

noletime95
04-27-2012, 11:04 AM
The Cowboys also have to account for the compensatory pick Jenkins will bring for next years draft.....in addition to have another quality CB for next year.

I'm not sure if I would deal him for less than a 2nd.....I expect he'll comand a good size contract and bring a 3rd-4th rounder next year anyway.

Yuma Cactus
04-27-2012, 11:07 AM
Unless someone offers a 2nd or a 3rd + 4th then keep him around. If he plays good throw the franchise tag on him and see if you can trade him, if not let him walk and take your supplemental.

johnnyd
04-27-2012, 11:07 AM
You have to also factor in what kind of attitude will Jenkins have this year knowing chances are good that they will not attempt to re-sign him

agreed and a seasons full of "business decisions"

brooksey1
04-27-2012, 11:09 AM
At this point just keep him for his contract year, he will probably play well if healthy, then we can look at the finances and dynamics that were produced with those three cb's. Maybe we re-sign him and move Scandricks contract.

I like the idea of having 3 starting corners. God forbid if we pick up a FS who can also play man and disrupt the wr's off the line.

Maybe we turn Bruce Carter into a blitz machine?

Idgit
04-27-2012, 11:09 AM
Wow, that's some hard hitting journalism there.

A team won't trade a player unless they get value for him?

That type of thinking is probably going to revolutionize the NFL.

I came into this thread just to mock Watkins on that very point. But then I saw the body actually said 'significant value' and I was like, oh, that *is* revolutionary. :)

Gaede
04-27-2012, 11:10 AM
I'd trade him for a 3rd or high 4th

btcutter
04-27-2012, 11:10 AM
Jenkins isn't stupid.

He'll probably play his best this year since he has seen what a productive year will do for his wallet when he becomes a FA.

We should use that as a motivation for Jenkins....we will have three very good CBs. We have the option to trade him mid season for a 2nd rounder or get a 3rd round comp pick.

No need to be desperate and get less.

stasheroo
04-27-2012, 11:36 AM
I wouldn't do it for a 4th alone but if that 4th were the difference somehow between us getting either Konz or Glenn or not then I think I would.

Pretty much where I am, if Jenkins and a 4th rounder gets me the player I want - say Peter Konz - I would do it.

If not, keep the great depth for 2012.

After all, it is a passing league.

unionjack8
04-27-2012, 11:37 AM
not sure why there's this clamour to get rid of a pro bowl cb.

For a 2nd even its not worth it. Hell let him play the year out and go sign a big free agent contract and get a comp pick down the line.

CB is now THE strength of this team, lets keep it that way shall we?

fanfromvirginia
04-27-2012, 11:39 AM
Werder just confirmed that they're shopping him around but don't expect to trade him unless they get a really good offer because he's cheap and they like the depth. So, basically, he ain't going anywhere.

casmith07
04-27-2012, 11:42 AM
Albert Breer ‏ @AlbertBreer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Couple execs think the Cowboys could get around a fourth-round pick for Mike Jenkins. Not sure if that'd be worth it for Dallas.

I would take a 4th rounder and not look back.

Phillip Blake, Ryan Broyles come on down.

StanleySpadowski
04-27-2012, 11:43 AM
Werder just confirmed that they're shopping him around but don't expect to trade him unless they get a really good offer because he's cheap and they like the depth. So, basically, he ain't going anywhere.

If that's what Werder said, expect the exact opposite.

For someone with alleged "sources", I don't think anyone could have been more wrong about more things than Special Ed.

CowboyMcCoy
04-27-2012, 12:09 PM
If they play this right, they should dangle him out there but don't set the hook. His value will only go up at this point. I want to hold my cards on Jenkins though. I'm not sure why we're in such a hurry to dump him.

CowboyMcCoy
04-27-2012, 12:13 PM
I'm having a hard time with this. The liquor store clerk really does have a crystal ball.

jblaze2004
04-27-2012, 12:13 PM
Albert Breer ‏ @AlbertBreer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Couple execs think the Cowboys could get around a fourth-round pick for Mike Jenkins. Not sure if that'd be worth it for Dallas.

ill take the 4th rounder and maybe a fifth rounder this or next year. Then take that 4th and package it with a 3rd to move into round 2....lol...then we won't have a 3rd rounder sooooooo idk.

SDogo
04-27-2012, 12:14 PM
ill take the 4th rounder and maybe a fifth rounder this or next year. Then take that 4th and package it with a 3rd to move into round 2....lol...then we won't have a 3rd rounder sooooooo idk.

4th and a 3rd wont get you into the 2nd.