Top Players Available From SDogo's Chart

[NeonDeion21]

Not to steal your thunder SDogo, but here is the chart.

43 *Bobby Massie
51 *Lamar Miller
52 Alameda Ta'amu
53 Kirk Cousins
59 *Chris Givens
63 Chris Polk
64 Alfonzo Dennard
67 Billy Winn
70 Jared Crick
71 *Orson Charles
74 Juron Criner
75 *Ronnell Lewis
76 Brandon Boykin
81 Ben Jones
82 George Iloka
84 Trevin Wade
86 Cam Johnson
88 Ron Brooks
89 Keenan Robinson
90 James Brown
91 Travis Lewis
97 Joe Adams
98 Greg Childs
100 Nigel Bradham
101 *Robert Turbin
102 Markelle Martin
103 Brandon Mosley
104 Cyrus Gray
105 Chase Minnifield
107 Josh Chapman
109 Kyle Wilber
110 Malik Jackson
111 Josh Kaddu
113 Michael Brewster
115 Josh Norman
116 Matt Reynolds
118 Trevor Guyton
119 James-Michael Johnson
120 Omar Bolden
121 *Marcus Forston
123 Justin Bethel
124 Keshawn Martin
126 *Jonathan Massaquoi
127 Marvin Jones
128 Ladarius Green
129 Trenton Robinson
130 Zebrie Sanders
131 Brandon Hardin
133 Nick Toon
135 Philip Blake
136 Marquis Maze
137 Matt McCants
138 Vick Ballard
139 Senio Kelemete
140 Leonard Johnson
141 Jaye Howard
142 Antonio Allen
143 Ryan Miller
144 Taylor Thompson
145 Emmanuel Acho
146 Aaron Henry
147 Deangelo Peterson
148 Ryan Steed
149 Christian Thompson
150 *Brandon Washington
151 Lucas Nix
152 Shaun Prater
153 Chris Rainey
154 Tom Compton
155 *Edwin Baker
156 Brett Roy
157 Tauren Poole
159 *Janzen Jackson
160 B.J. Coleman
162 Darius Fleming
163 *Terrell Manning
164 Quentin Saulsberry
165 Junior Hemingway
166 Coryell Judie
167 Rishard Matthews
168 Marvin McNutt
169 Nate Potter
170 Rhett Ellison
171 Jarius Wright
172 Alex Hoffman-Ellis
173 Travis Benjamin
174 Hebron Fangupo
175 Tank Carder
176 Asa Jackson
177 Audie Cole
178 Terrance Ganaway
179 Chris Greenwood

[SDogo]

Saved me the time, thank you! lol

[RS12]

107 Josh Chapman

Come on man

[NeonDeion21]

I like the 4th round players. Ton of productive players left.

[RamziD]

Give me Boykin and Jones/Blake.

[robert70x7]

Here's the winners best on value:


Bengals - 72
Giants - 53
Steelers - 39
Packers - 13
Cardinals - 11
Cowobys - 6
Raiders - 1
Chargers - 0
Bucs - (-3)
Panthers - (-6)
Titans - (-6)
Vikings - (-10)
Chiefs - (-15)
Jets - (-17)
Colts - (-23)
Rams - (-27)
Ravens - (-33)
Jaguars - (-35)
49ers - (-51)
Bears - (-64)
Lions - (-75)
Browns - (-85)
Redskins - (-90)
Saints - (-91)
Eagles - (-118)
Broncos - (-122)
Falcons - (-126)
Texas - (-126)
Seahawks - (135)
Dolphins - (-169)
Bills - (-175)
Patriots - (-279)

[JBell523]

107 Josh Chapman

Come on man
This would give us one helluva D-line rotation.

Think we need help on the OL though.

[SDogo]

Here's the winners best on value:


Bengals - 72
Giants - 53
Steelers - 39
Packers - 13
Cardinals - 11
Cowobys - 6
Raiders - 1
Chargers - 0
Bucs - (-3)
Panthers - (-6)
Titans - (-6)
Vikings - (-10)
Chiefs - (-15)
Jets - (-17)
Colts - (-23)
Rams - (-27)
Ravens - (-33)
Jaguars - (-35)
49ers - (-51)
Bears - (-64)
Lions - (-75)
Browns - (-85)
Redskins - (-90)
Saints - (-91)
Eagles - (-118)
Broncos - (-122)
Falcons - (-126)
Texas - (-126)
Seahawks - (135)
Dolphins - (-169)
Bills - (-175)
Patriots - (-279)

I have a scoring system I'll be using based on these numbers to grade the drafts. Just because a team has a negative number it does not guarantee a bad grade but i'll explain that more when I post it.

[RS12]

Here's the winners best on value:


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Patriots - (-279)

Must be due to that DB from Illinois, cuz I like the rest of their draft.

[RamziD]

107 Josh Chapman

Come on man

He would be good too.

[honyock]

I'm glad we stayed put today and didn't trade any picks away. There is still a lot to like on that list.

[robert70x7]

Must be due to that DB from Illinois, cuz I like the rest of their draft.

I agree. These were just rankings. I love the Patriots draft.

[jswalker1981]

Here's the winners best on value:


Patriots - (-279)

What?!? No way!! They are the absolute best in the draft, they have it down to a science.

:laugh2:

[SDogo]

Must be due to that DB from Illinois, cuz I like the rest of their draft.


Yeah, -181 from Tavon Wilson and -68 from Jake Baquette but to be fair, those are based off the beta version. The one with some extra bells and whistles that I was not sure if it was ready to be rolled out yet only had Baqutte at -18 because it had my updated rankings.

[skinsscalper]

I'm going to guess Orson Charles is the pick in the 4th if he's still available.

[poost]

I'm glad we stayed put today and didn't trade any picks away. There is still a lot to like on that list.

During the press conference I believe Stephen said he had a gun to Jerry's head telling him not to trade any more picks. HAHA!

[jswalker1981]

I'm going to guess Orson Charles is the pick in the 4th if he's still available.

For what it's worth, PFW breaks down each position into subgroups. And Charles is the #1 TE (3-down player).

[basstapp]

I like Ben Jones , Jonathan massaquoi, josh Chapman, orson Charles, crick, and Lewis. I would trade down a bit and pick up a 5th and an extra sixth.

[NeonDeion21]

#113 - Orson Charles, TE Georgia

#135 - Ben Jones, C Georgia

[xwalker]

My wish list for the remaining picks:

OC Philip Blake
ILB/OLB Miles Burris
OLB Kyle Wilber/Braylon Broughton
CB Chris Greenwood/Coty Sensabaugh/Brandon Boykin/Omar Bolden/Josh Norman/Chase Minnefield
TE Taylor Thompson
WR Devon Wylie/Greg Childs/Joe Adams
OG Ronald Leary
OT Levy Adcock

[theogt]

Philip Blake, please. TYIA.

[jterrell]

in r4 i like alameda or chapman and jones or blake
if we lose both oc or both nt then grab charles the te.

a draft with
claiborne - starting CB
crawford - rotational de
alameda - huge NT
jones - competitor for day 1 OC job

is a really good haul and should shut up lots of crying from sturm et al about quantity.

[InmanRoshi]

I'm going to guess Orson Charles is the pick in the 4th if he's still available.

That would be my pick. Joe Adams with the Comp pick.

[Dayton Cowboy]

Would someone with more knowledge on the college wide receivers available perhaps enlighten me on some of the names and the types of games they play? Other than the just dry read of Walters football or some other site, which I have done a bit of this evening. Thanks.

Joe Adams vs Greg Childs vs Devon Wylie vs Keshawn Martin?

Also I'll throw my hat in the ring for Markelle Martin and Ben Jones

[DFWJC]

Bobbie Massie is good. That shocks me that he's available. Oh well, too bad the need doesn't match the value

[InmanRoshi]

Bobbie Massie is good. That shocks me that he's available. Oh well, too bad the need doesn't match the value

There is something going on there behind the scenes that isn't common knowledge. This isn't a good tackle class and about half the league needs a starting tackle. Some major injury flag or something must have come up.

[AbeBeta]

Philip Blake, please. TYIA.

I predict that we like him but get cute and try to get him with the compensatory 4th. I can see how that plays out now. We see that Jones and Brewster are still on the board too, so we decide to wait on Blake

[Fla Cowpoke]

This is what I like in the 4th

51 *Lamar Miller
52 Alameda Ta'amu
67 Billy Winn
71 *Orson Charles
75 *Ronnell Lewis
76 Brandon Boykin
81 Ben Jones
82 George Iloka
86 Cam Johnson
97 Joe Adams
98 Greg Childs
113 Michael Brewster
126 *Jonathan Massaquoi
128 Ladarius Green
129 Trenton Robinson
133 Nick Toon
135 Philip Blake
145 Emmanuel Acho

Miller is quickly becoming BPA ala Marion Barber and Tashard Choice in draft's past. Would be hard to skip him if he is still there.

I do think a starting center is available too us.....ratings for Blake are all over the place....if I was sure we could get him, Jones or Brewster in the 5th I would wait. But I think we are going to have to get Blake or Jones in the 4th and probably with the first one to be safe. It would be hard to complain about getting any of the guys ranked under 100 above. I think Charles and a Blake/Jones makes the most sense based on need. Those will be starters this year.

[silverbear]

Give me Boykin and Jones/Blake.

Do you really see the Boys drafting another cornerback??

Make it Blake and Fangupo, or Blake and one of the 3-4 OLBs on the board (Cam Johnson, Jonathon Massaquoi or Keenan Robinson)...

[RamziD]

Do you really see the Boys drafting another cornerback??

Make it Blake and Fangupo, or Blake and one of the 3-4 OLBs on the board (Cam Johnson, Jonathon Massaquoi or Keenan Robinson)...

Wouldn't it be nice to have Boykin as your #4 CB once Jenkins leaves next year? Talk about strength at one position. It's probably overkill, though... I don't know how many 5 DB sets we're going to be playing, lol I posted that on initial reaction to Boykin being available... but we have other needs that will give us more value.

Also, the more I think about it... I think just adding Carr and Claiborne is going to automatically make our pass rush better. I wouldn't mind if we used our next 2 picks on offense and the last 3 on defense.

[Idgit]

Do you really see the Boys drafting another cornerback??

Make it Blake and Fangupo, or Blake and one of the 3-4 OLBs on the board (Cam Johnson, Jonathon Massaquoi or Keenan Robinson)...

Not necessarily in the fourth, but we lost Newman, Ball, and Walker in the offseason. Maybe we get lucky and find a college FA who can play after the draft, and maybe we bring Ball back after all, but I wouldn't be shocked to see us take a late round flier at CB at some point.

[willsanity209]

I hope we get either Joe Adams or Nick Toon at WR. I feel like we really need to come away with a WR from this draft to be our #3 and both of these guys are ballers.

[Gaede]

I think we go offense in this round. Blake and Adams or Gray

[silverbear]

Wouldn't it be nice to have Boykin as your #4 CB once Jenkins leaves next year? Talk about strength at one position. It's probably overkill, though... I don't know how many 5 DB sets we're going to be playing, lol I posted that on initial reaction to Boykin being available... but we have other needs that will give us more value.

Also, the more I think about it... I think just adding Carr and Claiborne is going to automatically make our pass rush better. I wouldn't mind if we used our next 2 picks on offense and the last 3 on defense.

I like Boykin a lot (though not as much as SDogo does, I suspect his last name is Boykin)... I just don't see the Boys going for another corner, at least not this early in the draft...

Wouldn't upset me if I was wrong, though...

As far as using some picks on offense, at this point we really need a center, a slot receiver/kick returner and another TE... so I can see the Boys using three more picks on offense, the rest on defense...

[silverbear]

Not necessarily in the fourth, but we lost Newman, Ball, and Walker in the offseason. Maybe we get lucky and find a college FA who can play after the draft, and maybe we bring Ball back after all, but I wouldn't be shocked to see us take a late round flier at CB at some point.

That's a good point for an idgit, there will be some nice corners likely looking for work after the draft's last pick...

Chris Greenwood, Albion
Greg McCoy, TCU

I have seen mocks that had each of these corners being drafted, and I've seen mocks where they go undrafted... if they're not off the market, these would be my top two corners in the free agent signing frenzy...

Robert Golden, Arizona... may project to FS in the pros, but ran better at his pro day that he was expected to (in the 4.45 range)...

These would b e my top 3 targets at cornerback after the draft, but we know the Boys showed some interest in Isaac Madison from Arkansas, Anthony Hooks from New Mexico and Royce Hill from North Texas... I'm not real sure why the Cowboys like the latter two, to be honest with you...

Yes sir, I'd be looking for the Boys to add another corner or two from the undrafted rookie free agents...

[Gaede]

Ron Brooks wouldn't surprise me in the next couple rounds. I think they'll draft another CB for sure, because Scandrick is also on borrowed time. They'll try him out again this year but if he has another down year, they'll dump that contract.

Or DeQuan Menzie, w/ the possibility of moving him to safety.

[StarHead69]

After watching (IMO) the reincarnation of the Clay Schiver years last season. I am keeping an eye on the Centers in this draft. If we don't take one in the 4th, I will assume that it means one of three things:

A - Garrett and Callahan are confident that Bernedeau, Kowalski, Nagy, or:eek: Costa are ready to step in and play at an NFL level.

B - Blake, Jones, Brewster, Snow, Molk are rated so closely that we will wait to grab the last one remaining... possibly 6th/7th round.

C - The organization secretly hates Tony Romo and wants to make sure that we are adequately represented on the 2012 NFL Follies video.

At this moment I am leaning towards option A... but I would love to hear opinions from the board.

[JBell523]

Ron Brooks wouldn't surprise me in the next couple rounds. I think they'll draft another CB for sure, because Scandrick is also on borrowed time. They'll try him out again this year but if he has another down year, they'll dump that contract.

Or DeQuan Menzie, w/ the possibility of moving him to safety.
I wouldn't mind Brooks at all.

I read that he's the best blitzing CB in this draft. 4.3 speed, great special teamer. Rob likes that slot corner blitz, so I can see him being a great 4th CB down the road with the potential to step in at the nickel if one of our top 3 guys gets injured.

[ferrispata]

Blake and a NT or TE are the next two. I looked in my magic ball.

[tm1119]

Imo we need to go o-line with our 1st pick today. I'm kinda shocked that Brandon Washington is still available and would snatch him up in a heartbeat if he's still there when we pick. If not OG then whoever is rated highest between Jones/Blake/Molk. Depth for WR and TE can be added later on in the draft no problem.

[Oh_Canada]

Imo we need to go o-line with our 1st pick today. I'm kinda shocked that Brandon Washington is still available and would snatch him up in a heartbeat if he's still there when we pick. If not OG then whoever is rated highest between Jones/Blake/Molk. Depth for WR and TE can be added later on in the draft no problem.

I was high on Brandon Washington before the combine, but he looked putrid in some of the drills I watched...terrible feet.

[Gaede]

I wouldn't mind Brooks at all.

I read that he's the best blitzing CB in this draft. 4.3 speed, great special teamer. Rob likes that slot corner blitz, so I can see him being a great 4th CB down the road with the potential to step in at the nickel if one of our top 3 guys gets injured.

I like Brooks alot. Watch the YT vid of him against Ole Miss and Arkansas, it's hard not to like him.

I think he fits perfectly w/ what the Cowboys want to do. Will have immediate impact blitzing and be our 3rd CB next after we jettison Scan and`Jenkins

[Teague31]

#113 - Orson Charles, TE Georgia

#135 - Ben Jones, C Georgia

if they are both available, this would not surprise me at all.

[Avery]

Dennard would make an excellent felon.

[Woods]

I think we can go OC in Round 5/6 as well with Saulsberry.

We showed interest in him as well during the draft process.

On the other hand, I wonder if Garrett/Callahan are willing to let Costa/Killer/Nagy battle it out for the starting position?

[Deep_Freeze]

On the other hand, I wonder if Garrett/Callahan are willing to let Costa/Killer/Nagy battle it out for the starting position?

I think its a distinct possibility that noone really wants to talk about, we could very well not take a single interior OL since we took 2 last year and got 2 in free agency.

[casmith07]

Give me Boykin and Jones/Blake.

Yeah.

Or Markelle Martin, or Alfonzo Dennard at this point. Convert Dennard to SS.

[casmith07]

I think we can go OC in Round 5/6 as well with Saulsberry.

We showed interest in him as well during the draft process.

On the other hand, I wonder if Garrett/Callahan are willing to let Costa/Killer/Nagy battle it out for the starting position?

If Kowalski got stronger, he could start and be good. His footwork and skills when subbing in looked a lot better than Costa.