Kyle Wilber scouting report

[RS12]

6. Kyle Wilber Wake Forest 5.57 6-3 3/4 249 4.83

Notes:
Also participated in wrestling and weight lifting as a Florida prep. Redshirted in 2007. Played in all 13 contests in ’08, starting the final seven at defensive end, and recorded 42 tackles, 61⁄2 tackles for loss and three sacks with one pass defended. Had a two-yard fumble return for a score against Boston College. Recorded 18-3-1 with a blocked kick against Baylor in five games (four starts) in ’09. Fractured his left leg (fibula) against Stanford in the second game and missed the next seven weeks before returning for the final three games. Led the team in tackles for loss and sacks in ’10 after recording 65-14 1⁄2-6 with four passes batted down, three forced fumbles and two blocked kicks. Started all 12 games — eight at defensive end and four at outside linebacker after the Demon Deacons switched to a 3-4 defense with four games remaining. Racked up 70-11 1⁄2-3 1⁄2 with one pass breakup, three forced fumbles and a blocked kick in 13 starts at SLB in ’11.

Positives:
Very good athlete. Solid run defender — can play off blocks and string plays down to the sideline. Crashes the line and has surprising strength to set the edge. Solid technician — keeps his outside arm free. Good take-off speed. Can outquick blockers to the point and split the double team. Has lined up on both sides and is athletic enough to fall back into coverage and man short areas. Productive starter with scheme diversity.

Negatives:
Has a linear, underdeveloped body and can stand to improve his strength levels and explosion. Tends to play a bit too upright and has some stiffness in his body. Not a glass-eater and lacks bull, anchor strength. Struggles with double teams. Not an elite athlete. Not comfortable moving in reverse.

Summary:
A finesse rush linebacker who has lined up in even and odd fronts in college, Wilber possesses the length, athletic ability and surprising strength to rush on either side as a linebacker in a 3-4 front.

[RS12]

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Kyle Wilber - Wake Forest - 6-4, 249 - length 33inch arms--478 (164 split) Cowboys had him in for visit - 3.5 sacks as sr--6 sacks as jr

[RS12]

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#Cowboys Rd.4No.113: LB - Kyle Wilber, SR, Wake Forest, 6036, 249, 4.86. Not as high on him as others are, too slow to play OLB in 3-4.

[patrickstillhere]

I think, Ronnell Lewis would have been better.

[Eskimo]

He sounds a lot like Anthony Spencer.

He is about the same size, was a college DE but a tweener OLB at this level, a good but not great athlete.

It sounds like he may have some upside if he can improve his strength a bit with Woicek and he has ideal size and length for the position.

I really had my hopes for Bruce Irvin, McClellin, Whitney or Branch bit I guess it wasn't in the cards for us.

[cowboyjoe]

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#Cowboys Rd.4No.113: LB - Kyle Wilber, SR, Wake Forest, 6036, 249, 4.86. Not as high on him as others are, too slow to play OLB in 3-4.

some other sites, 4.78 in 40, decent speed for a player of his size, but not heavy built needs to get stronger, more of a move around player, line him up at OLB, rush him from inside etc..

[Eskimo]

I think, Ronnell Lewis would have been better.

He is apparently off our boards due to character issues.

He also probably isn't smart enough to play in our fronts.

[cdewsxzaq]

I think, Ronnell Lewis would have been better.

Agreed.

[brooksey1]

A poor mans Aaron Curry and projected as high as rd 2 by some, and Rd3 by the rest, so there is some value here in the 4th.

[da_boyz_mk]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=39878

[JoeyBoy718]

We just need a few more sacks from different guys. We don't need superstars, just a few playmakers. We are one of the best sack teams in the league, but half of them come from Ware. Hopefully the last 2 picks net us 5-6 more sacks this season. Plus the upgraded secondary just gave the pass rush a few extra seconds. All the people crying for "building the trenches" and "establishing a pass rush" don't seem to be too happy.

[RS12]

How did his three cone compare to Spencers? 40 not as important.

[cowboyjoe]

He is apparently off our boards due to character issues.

He also probably isn't smart enough to play in our fronts.

yeah part i dont like he is a finese type LB, think we could have done better, but that coujld have been becaus he got hurt and came back early

does have long arms though to defend in passes and causes qb to not be able to get ball over him

but has dropped in coverages, very intelligent, can slip inside,

[speedkilz88]

Positives:
Very good athlete. Solid run defender — can play off blocks and string plays down to the sideline. Crashes the line and has surprising strength to set the edge. Solid technician — keeps his outside arm free. Good take-off speed. Can outquick blockers to the point and split the double team. Has lined up on both sides and is athletic enough to fall back into coverage and man short areas. Productive starter with scheme diversity. That was probably the key to his selection.

[jswalker1981]

He is apparently off our boards due to character issues.

He also probably isn't smart enough to play in our fronts.

Can we Sticky this? Tired of seeing his name in every thread even though it was discussed awhile back that he was off our board.

[jamesdojr]

Meh....

Jared Crick was there.... Better, More established, more polished, against better competition...

Tank Carder was there... Not a pass rusher but more explosive, always around the ball and more of an every down playmaker.....

Not excited at all about this pick.... :(


I can't even find a highlight reel and NFLN hasn't even mentioned that Dallas picked him yet... what does that tell you??????????? No one cares..

[CCBoy]

That was probably the key to his selection.

He and Butler should solve depth problems at OLB...and he should improve dramatically over this next season. Both on the field and in conditioning.

[jswalker1981]

Meh....

Jared Crick was there.... Better, More established, more polished, against better competition...

Tank Carder was there... Not a pass rusher but more explosive, always around the ball and more of an every down playmaker.....

Not excited at all about this pick.... :(


I can't even find a highlight reel and NFLN hasn't even mentioned that Dallas picked him yet... what does that tell you??????????? No one cares..

Here, this is what NFL.com is saying about the pick:

Pick Analysis: Bucky Brooks' take: Wilber is a raw edge rusher with good first-step quickness and length. He flashes some rush skills, but will make his immediate contributions as a special teams maven.

Maybe they do care. :rolleyes:

[morasp]

That was probably the key to his selection.

Very good athlete. Solid run defender — can play off blocks and string plays down to the sideline. Crashes the line and has surprising strength to set the edge. Solid technician — keeps his outside arm free. Good take-off speed. Can outquick blockers to the point and split the double team. Has lined up on both sides and is athletic enough to fall back into coverage and man short areas. Productive starter with scheme diversity.

I was thinking this. NFL.com called him a very quick twitched player.

[EGG]

It's hard to read scouting reports and come away with a positive feeling a lot of times,,, the negatives can sound so bad you wonder why the guy got picked at all. The fact that Ryan was fist-bumping after the pick makes you think there is reason for optimism though.

[Gaede]

I really like the pick. I think he'll be a solid player for us.

[marchetta]

JG just told Wilber he'll be playing behind Spencer. So, he'll be an OLB for us.

[CCBoy]

JG just told Wilber he'll be playing behind Spencer. So, he'll be an OLB for us.

I guess this points towards a multi year contract for Spencer?

[RS12]

I guess this points towards a multi year contract for Spencer?

Not what I see. I dont think Spencer is in their long range plans.

[jamesdojr]

Read my post. I said highlight reels and I said NFLN (NFL Network). I found scouting reports... You can find those everywhere. I'm talking about live coverage on tv... They haven't even talked about him or shown any highlight reels. I looked all over the net and youtube. No highlight reels.... Usually if it is a pick that stands out, they show a few clips.

And the Texans just took Crick.... Wow! You think they know something about good defensive players. If our heads weren't up our azzes, we would have taken that guy.... not Wilbur~!


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Here, this is what NFL.com is saying about the pick:

Pick Analysis: Bucky Brooks' take: Wilber is a raw edge rusher with good first-step quickness and length. He flashes some rush skills, but will make his immediate contributions as a special teams maven.

Maybe they do care. :rolleyes:

[btcutter]

Didn't Crick have medical issues?

[big dog cowboy]

Can we Sticky this? Tired of seeing his name in every thread even though it was discussed awhile back that he was off our board.
Sorry but no.

[Bull209]

Not what I see. I dont think Spencer is in their long range plans.

He'll be when they discover they have no one to replace him with. Who would've thought they'd have to pay him nearly 9 million dollars for one year, but it happened.

[AdamJT13]

Bob McGinn (who had the best Top 100 last year) ranked Wilber in his top 100 players. Here's his report from anonymous NFL scouts --

8. KYLE WILBER, Wake Forest (6-4, 245, 4.71, 3-4) - Overcame a traumatic home situation as a youth. "We had him in for a visit," one scout said. "He's the best kid I've interviewed in 15 years." Generally stood up in the Demon Deacons' unconventional defense that's a cross between a 4-3 and 3-4. "Boy, he's a good-looking athlete," another scout said. "He can run and really close. I thought he was more finesse than power. I wouldn't question his toughness but I kind of wanted him to let loose a little more in that regard. He will be very attractive to 3-4 teams." Finished with 195 tackles (351/2 for loss), 131/2 sacks and nine "big" plays in 43 games (36 starts). Out of Apopka, Fla. "He's a good project," a third scout said. "He's kind of reminiscent of (Jeremy) Thompson a few years ago. He never panned out, for whatever reason."

[xwalker]

Here are Wilber's measureables compared to other OLB prospects. The list is sorted by 3-cone time.

http://www.walker-texas.com/kyle-wilber-compare.jpg

[Duane]

Here are Wilber's measureables compared to other OLB prospects. The list is sorted by 3-cone time.

http://www.walker-texas.com/kyle-wilber-compare.jpg

These comparison charts have been great.

[Chocolate Lab]

These comparison charts have been great.

Yes they have. Thanks xwalker.

[xwalker]

Your welcome, glad you like them.

[ghst187]

I think, Ronnell Lewis would have been better.

so do most of us here and the pundits like Kiper who had Lewis rated MUCH higher than this JAG

[cowboyjoe]

Kyle Wilbur - Pro Day

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Hearing Kyle Wilber/OLB-DE/Wake Forest, weighed in at 242lbs and ran a 4.67 forty this morning at pro-day...

Kyle Wilber, starting defensive end for the Demon Deacons the past three seasons and a player most teams project to outside linebacker in the NFL, tipped the scales at 242 pounds, seven less than his combine weight, and then ran 40 times as fast as 4.60-seconds, an improvement of almost .15 seconds from his best mark in Indianapolis.



Wilber later did position drills at both defensive end and linebacker for 20 minutes.



Scouts came away impressed, and the senior defender continues to improve his draft stock.

[jjktkk]

Kyle Wilbur - Pro Day

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Tony Pauline ‏ @ TonyPauline
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Hearing Kyle Wilber/OLB-DE/Wake Forest, weighed in at 242lbs and ran a 4.67 forty this morning at pro-day...

Kyle Wilber, starting defensive end for the Demon Deacons the past three seasons and a player most teams project to outside linebacker in the NFL, tipped the scales at 242 pounds, seven less than his combine weight, and then ran 40 times as fast as 4.60-seconds, an improvement of almost .15 seconds from his best mark in Indianapolis.



Wilber later did position drills at both defensive end and linebacker for 20 minutes.



Scouts came away impressed, and the senior defender continues to improve his draft stock.

Godd find Joe, thanks for sharing.

[CowboyManDan]

The highlight clips and reports and such really remind me of Anthony Spencer...and that's probably not a coincidence.

Some reports say some positives about pass rush, but I saw more of a tackle machine...closing down on a run from the backside.

Hopefully this guy and Butler can be good depth. My guess is Butler will be the better pass rusher (and needs more opportunities) and Wilber the better run defender...but who knows at this point.