Networks ruined by reality television.

[tupperware]

Anyone noticing this trend? What was once decent networks, turn the way of the more reality tv oriented shows. Total garbage.

[Sam I Am]

I watch maybe 90 minutes of non-Sports TV a week right now. GoTs and lately one show of "How It's Made" per week.

Occasionally I will find something else to watch, but generally I don't even check. I do more productive things than watch TV.

Today's TV blows ***. Though, for the most part it always has.

[burmafrd]

I have not watched any network show for years. HBO or the like is where the quality is now

[BrAinPaiNt]

They do these shows because they are cheaper to make and still get the ratings.

[Yeagermeister]

They do these shows because they are cheaper to make and still get the ratings.

:hammer:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

they are on because people watch them

[vta]

they are on because people watch them

Something about train wrecks that have people rapt. :laugh2:

Even the good channels are being diluted with this garbage. A&E has some pretty lousy looking shows. Storage Wars? What's next, watching grass grow wars? The next big thing will be reality shows about people watching reality shows (you heard it here first. ;) ). The perfect circle...

[rynochop]

Anyone noticing this trend? What was once decent networks, turn the way of the more reality tv oriented shows. Total garbage.

Yeah, i've been noticing for about 10 years now..ha, j/k.

I keep waiting for this fad to be over. But yeah it is cheaper, beats paying the Friends cast a billion dollars an episode...and it is total garbage, and its not even "reality" tv. Anyone think this stuff is real is completely naive.

I watched that Repo men or whatever its called a couple times, they're all actors. Its stupid. I watch Pawn Stars if i stumble across it, mainly just because im interested in some of the items, not because i think thats actually happening.

I remember watching the first couple Real Worlds on MTV back in the early 90's, guess it was the advent of all this. I watched those kind of religiously cause it was something different, and may have been partially real.

[BlueStar3398]

I have seen bits of Basketball Wives, Jersey Shore, Mob Wives, Bad Girls Club, Real Housewives of New York, Keeping with the Kardashians etc. Horrible television! People call this entertainment? :confused:

On Basketball Wives, those chicks can't be in the same room together without having a physical altercation. :laugh2: Why hang out together if you can't get along? :eek: Shaq's ex-wife started that mess.

[daboyzruleperiod]

The ONLY reality show I watch is the first one that came out...C.O.P.S.

[big dog cowboy]

Networks ruined by reality television.
Anyone noticing this trend? What was once decent networks, turn the way of the more reality tv oriented shows. Total garbage.

Network TV was ruined before the invention of reality shows. Other than local news ans sports I have not watched network TV in years.

[Rynie]

There is no such thing as reality tv. We were watching some new tattoo reality show, and on the credits, there's a disclaimer..the first sentence is..
"the producers have input on the judges decisions and final outcome"...

[Afigueroa22]

Mtv doesn't even show anything about music anymore it's ridiculous. I have a HUGE bone to pick with people who watch these shows. Your killing television for ignorant crap.

[Cajuncowboy]

I watch a few of them, maybe just out of the fact there really isn't anything much on anymore. I watch American Idol because my daughter likes it and I was in the industry. I also watch Amazing Race because I like to see the other cultures. My favorite "Reality" show is Shark Tank. I love the entrepreneurial spirit that is on display there each week.

We also watch Biggest Loser but that's because my wife watches it. Which is odd because she is one of the most fit people I know.

I have been watching Celebrity Apprentice since a friend was on it last year.

I do think Reality TV has killed some good shows. Chuck, Terra Nova, The Event and some others didn't survive and they should have because they at least had an interesting premiss.

[dez_for_prez]

I watch a few of them, maybe just out of the fact there really isn't anything much on anymore. I watch American Idol because my daughter likes it and I was in the industry. I also watch Amazing Race because I like to see the other cultures. My favorite "Reality" show is Shark Tank. I love the entrepreneurial spirit that is on display there each week.

We also watch Biggest Loser but that's because my wife watches it. Which is odd because she is one of the most fit people I know.

I have been watching Celebrity Apprentice since a friend was on it last year.

I do think Reality TV has killed some good shows. Chuck, Terra Nova, The Event and some others didn't survive and they should have because they at least had an interesting premiss.

Shark Tank and Dragons Den are both really good. I love seeing the products at some of the stores I go to.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I watch a few of them, maybe just out of the fact there really isn't anything much on anymore. I watch American Idol because my daughter likes it and I was in the industry. I also watch Amazing Race because I like to see the other cultures. My favorite "Reality" show is Shark Tank. I love the entrepreneurial spirit that is on display there each week.

We also watch Biggest Loser but that's because my wife watches it. Which is odd because she is one of the most fit people I know.

I have been watching Celebrity Apprentice since a friend was on it last year.

I do think Reality TV has killed some good shows. Chuck, Terra Nova, The Event and some others didn't survive and they should have because they at least had an interesting premiss.

Chuck had a 5 season run with a final season, it more than survived lol.

[Hoofbite]

There is no such thing as reality tv. We were watching some new tattoo reality show, and on the credits, there's a disclaimer..the first sentence is..
"the producers have input on the judges decisions and final outcome"...

They all have similar ones.

I've seen disclaimers about how parts not effecting the outcome of the show are edited.

They film the show and then edit it to get the most dramatic result.

[Hoofbite]

I usually only watch Discovery or History Channel or TLC or AE or something like that.

I haven't watched many big network shows.

I did like the show, "Expedition Impossible".

That's about as close to "reality" as it gets because it likely has so little editing.

They still edit it and paint the bad guy as best they can by selectively showing comments and pieces of dialog that are away from camera that are negative but it doesn't have the post-production that you see on many of these other shows.

[jcollins28]

The only true reality t.v is sports. I don't watch any shows anymore. Sadly shows like the Sopranos and Lost are gone for good.

[tupperware]

Oh don't get me wrong, I know it's not "real". Look no further than my opinion on American Idol to see that. While American Idol isn't put across as a Reality TV show explicitly, it shares a lot of the same elements. Those stupid cut scenes with the dramatic music, the dramatic events, the "behind the scenes" stuff, you get the idea.

[hutch1254]

TV shows suck. The last tv show I watched wasn't actually on tv. It was Lillyhammer on netflix. Pretty good. Otherwise I watch Adult Swim on a regular basis. Good mix and cartoons are all my brain can handle at the end of the day.

[Chocolate Lab]

Yep, it's pathetic. You know it's bad when even the Golf Channel and Weather Channel are running these things.

And the worst part is, they all look exactly the same. They may have a different subject matter, but it's all the exact same formula.

Telemundo soap operas are more "real", and have better eye candy. :thumbsup:

[casmith07]

I watch HBO Originals, HGTV, Sports, and Law & Order.

I also watch Southland when it's on. Otherwise, reality TV is all garbage.

[Lodeus]

Lost is done.
Smallville is done.
Chuck was good but got cancelled.
The Event was cancelled.
The Office has gone downhill.
Heroes started to suck and got cancelled.
Alcatraz and Fringe are decent.

Parks and Rec, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and The Walking Dead my favorites now. TV could certainly be better.

[Reality]

The market for television shows has changed considerably. 30+ years ago, families sat down to eat together and watched TV for several hours each night. 30+ years ago if someone didn't have a TV in their house, they were considered poor. Now it is quite common due to computers and TV on demand through streaming and DVR playback.

The bottom line comes down to costs though. Most reality TV shows cost a small fraction of what scripted shows cost to make. Not to mention a reality TV show's production time is much smaller than scripted shows and is not limited to 20-24 episodes. If most people knew how little "reality" tv shows were actual "reality" and instead "scripted", they would likely not be as fond of them as they are. But being oblivious makes people happy in general so the formula continues to work at least for now.

What network do not realize is that this formula may be profitable or self-sustainable now, but underneath they are destroying their product and opening the door for a lot of other networks who are less concerned with bottom lines on each show and instead look at their overall bottom line. That's why pay networks such as Showtime and HBO have become more successful and some of the other non-major networks are starting to gain in popularity.

#reality

[RS12]

They do these shows because they are cheaper to make and still get the ratings.

This. The lower your production cost the easier to make profit. The people putting this garbage out could care less if you entertained, it's about making buck.

[SaltwaterServr]

Think of the average intelligence of a person you meet, and then realize that half the population is below that. Voila! An instant market for bad reality TV.

That said, I watch Deadliest Catch, Sons of Guns, Swamp People, and Dual Survival. I don't watch them with any regularity, but if they're on when I flipping through the channels I'll stop surfing.

Caught a couple of episodes of Wicked Tuna, but that show is so over the top with deckhands trying to inject drama that I lost interest. "Oh this could be our grander!" and then they pull up a short fish? C'mon guys, anyone who's fished offshore could tell in a second the difference between a 100 pound fish and an 500 pound fish.

[Hoofbite]

Think of the average intelligence of a person you meet, and then realize that half the population is below that. Voila! An instant market for bad reality TV.

That said, I watch Deadliest Catch, Sons of Guns, Swamp People, and Dual Survival. I don't watch them with any regularity, but if they're on when I flipping through the channels I'll stop surfing.

Caught a couple of episodes of Wicked Tuna, but that show is so over the top with deckhands trying to inject drama that I lost interest. "Oh this could be our grander!" and then they pull up a short fish? C'mon guys, anyone who's fished offshore could tell in a second the difference between a 100 pound fish and an 500 pound fish.

As a writer I think you should know full well to quote the man.........although he may not have said it first I demand the source I am referring to.

[Faerluna]

That said, I watch Deadliest Catch, Sons of Guns, Swamp People, and Dual Survival. I don't watch them with any regularity, but if they're on when I flipping through the channels I'll stop surfing.

We watched 1 episode of it and I didn't like it at all. Love Deadliest Catch, though.

[tupperware]

As a writer I think you should know full well to quote the man.........although he may not have said it first I demand the source I am referring to.

My favorite comedian.

I think he would tell you he doesn't give a <explicitive> that Salt used it.

:laugh2:

[Yakuza Rich]

Yes, it's mostly 'here's somebody's job' reality TV. To make matters worse, they script so much of 'reality TV' that it's not reality to begin with. I think if I was a higher-up in the world of TV, my motto would be that if we have to script 'reality TV', chances are it's not that interesting to begin with.

It does pain me because there are some really good reality shows out there like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars, but they keep scripting them as well. Those shows were interesting because they delved into so many different things that you never quite knew about. They were like the equivalent of taking Social Studies in school. But, they can't help but script them to death and they really lose their luster.

Probably what bums me out the most is how bad late-night and super-late night TV has become. When I was growing up I loved late-night and super-late night TV because that's when you had creative minds that were really taking chances on TV. Now it's become diluted with late night talk shows and informercials.







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[Faerluna]

It does pain me because there are some really good reality shows out there like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars, but they keep scripting them as well.

I have a friend that knows all about these things. Let me get him down here to have a look.

:cool:

[Zaxor]

I usually only watch Discovery or History Channel or TLC or AE or something like that.

I haven't watched many big network shows.

I did like the show, "Expedition Impossible".

That's about as close to "reality" as it gets because it likely has so little editing.

They still edit it and paint the bad guy as best they can by selectively showing comments and pieces of dialog that are away from camera that are negative but it doesn't have the post-production that you see on many of these other shows.

yup me too its docu's, sports, and once in a blue moon a sci-fi or western movie