i think its obvious, who we take

[CowboyChris]

i think its obvious, who we take in the first round, which player in your honest opinion best fits the Willie McGinnest type? BP loves that outside rush guy...LT, McGinnest clone. if that player is Merriman than there is no doubt BP would not pass him up.

[Parcells]

what if they pick him before us?? then does the trade deal with Howard go threw? your thoughts?

[Paniolo22]

If Ware is compared to LT and Merriman is compared to McGinnest, I'd take the LT comparison.

[conner01]

i think bill's 1st two targets will be ware and spears.ware is the edge rusher he loves and spears gives him what he needs to get to a 3-4

[Sarge]

I guarantee you right now - Merriman is drafted before Ware.

[LA=Pancakemaker]

If Ware is compared to LT and Merriman is compared to McGinnest, I'd take the LT comparison

Me too, but I still haven't seen anything about Ware, I know Merriman has speed & power can play both de - & lb..but what about Ware?

[MichaelWinicki]

I just don't think that Merriman can play in the 3-4 as well as Ware.

[Q_the_man]

i think its obvious, who we take in the first round, which player in your honest opinion best fits the Willie McGinnest type? BP loves that outside rush guy...LT, McGinnest clone. if that player is Merriman than there is no doubt BP would not pass him up.I thought Bill likes Lawrence Taylors type players...or dave Meggitt type players, I think BP likes good hard nosed players

[jksmith269]

I guarantee you right now - Merriman is drafted before Ware.

Unless we draft and both are available. If so I think we take Ware but thats JMO

[Rush 2112]

I just don't think that Merriman can play in the 3-4 as well as Ware.

Explain that one to me? Merriman has been in the 3-4 for 3 years, while Ware has been a 4-3 DE.

[Sarge]

Unless we draft and both are available. If so I think we take Ware but thats JMO

We'd take Merriman over Ware - don't buy into the latest hype.

IMO/FWIW of course.

[jksmith269]

We'd take Merriman over Ware - don't buy into the latest hype.

IMO/FWIW of course.

For all we know BP could draft a Center with the first pick. after last year I don't think anything he and JJ do would surprise me.

I like Ware more than Merriman both will be good I think Ware will make the biggest impact to start and both will be around the same in the long run so I'm fine with either.

[Sarge]

For all we know BP could draft a Center with the first pick. after last year I don't think anything he and JJ do would surprise me.

I like Ware more than Merriman both will be good I think Ware will make the biggest impact to start and both will be around the same in the long run so I'm fine with either.

I think it's a safe bet we won't be taking a center with the 11th pick.

:)

[Paniolo22]

I think it's a safe bet we won't be taking a center with the 11th pick.

:)
Yeah, center, kicker, punter, long snapper, Asst. coach, these are all out. :D

[Rack Bauer]

I guarantee you right now - Merriman is drafted before Ware.


I hope so. ANd I hope it occurs in the top 10.

I like Ware, but not at #11.

[Sarge]

Yeah, center, kicker, punter, long snapper, Asst. coach, these are all out. :D

We're set at long snapper.

;)

[Sarge]

I hope so. ANd I hope it occurs in the top 10.

I like Ware, but not at #11.

Don't like hin at 11 either. The one thing he does have going for him is he wears #94.

;)

[blindzebra]

I don't think we are going to draft either Merriman or Ware and if we do I'll go with the one that has not been part of the "word" coming from VR, Merriman.

This entire offseason has been about disinformation, thus the more we hear about a player from Cowboy "sources" the less likely it is we take that player.

Also we have two teams behind us, SD and Houston that are looking for a 3-4 edge rusher, and two teams in the top 10, AZ and DET that would love to trade down.

Throw in Washington that would draft one just to keep us from getting him.

[jobberone]

Everytime I see Merriman I come away impressed he is not worth the 11th pick. JMO.

Ware has gone from a smallish DE from a school just moved to Div I predicted to go in round 2 to the #11 pick.

JMO again but I wouldn't draft either of these guys with #11.

Could be easily wrong.

[Chuck 54]

i think bill's 1st two targets will be ware and spears.ware is the edge rusher he loves and spears gives him what he needs to get to a 3-4
If Spears is drafted primarily to be the huge DE who doesn't really rush much to play the 3-4, that only leaves two DL spots for Glover, Ellis, and Ferguson??? Who sits the bench?

I don't see us going 3-4 anytime soon...it will just be a changeup. I also don't see us taking Spears...we need an edge speed rusher.

[Sarge]

I don't think we are going to draft either Merriman or Ware ....

Who do you think we will take then at 11?

[ddh33]

Two guys who haven't gotten a ton of play here are David Pollack and Dan Cody. Both are high motor, high character type guys who contributed to some very good college teams. They also bring a versatility that would be a huge plus to this team.

I'll say this for both of these players, if you ever watched Georgia and OU play, you couldn't help but notice these guys always around the ball, always making plays.

[blindzebra]

Who do you think we will take then at 11?

We won't, we are trading down unless Williams is there and we still might if he is.

We are gonna look at Pollack in the teens, Spears or Roth at #20, Tuck late first or early 2nd or we go OT or WR and use the extra picks to trade for Howard.

I bet we trade down with both picks.

[followthestar]

i still believe we'll try to trade out of 11, pick up the best of the rest at DE or WR with 20, and pick up Blackstock at the end of round one or early round two depending on who we trade down with. Blackstock is the guy at OLB they have their eye on. Al Groh told me so, and he's not the only Virginia player Parcells would like to get under contract...

[Sarge]

We won't, we are trading down unless Williams is there and we still might if he is.

We are gonna look at Pollack in the teens, Spears or Roth at #20, Tuck late first or early 2nd or we go OT or WR and use the extra picks to trade for Howard.

I bet we trade down with both picks.

Roth at 20? Now THAT is scary. I can see Spears, but Roth?

Who are you thinking will trade up to 11?

[Billy Bullocks]

Howard trade, IMO, is just a bluff. There's plenty of good DE/OLB type players we could find in this draft. Unless we get Howard cheap, it won't happen. He's not that great.

[blindzebra]

Roth at 20? Now THAT is scary. I can see Spears, but Roth?

Who are you thinking will trade up to 11?

I think when all is said and done Roth will be the best DE in this draft.

It depends on who is there. If it's DJ I can see NO making a move, perhaps including Howard.

CB KC comes into play.

WR CAR, KC, JAX, BAL, PHI, and PIT.

QB GB

RB PHI

Also don't be surprised if AZ or DET trade down with SD or Houston and may want to move back up for a player that fell because they did not draft them at #8 and #10.

If we get stuck at #11 I'm taking Williams if he's there, or Pollack, but I would not like doing it.

[jobberone]

Two guys who haven't gotten a ton of play here are David Pollack and Dan Cody. Both are high motor, high character type guys who contributed to some very good college teams. They also bring a versatility that would be a huge plus to this team.

I'll say this for both of these players, if you ever watched Georgia and OU play, you couldn't help but notice these guys always around the ball, always making plays.

somebody has been paying attention. Give this guy a cigar. Thank you for the sanity. :thankyou:

[mperfection]

Don't like hin at 11 either. The one thing he does have going for him is he wears #94.

;)

I sincerely hope his jersey number is a premonition of things to come!

I, too, would like to--

1. Swap 1st round picks with N.O., (hopefully) get Ware at #16,
2. Trade for Howard (without having to give up 2nd rounder because of the swap) and draft Bullocks with #42
3. Trade down from the #20 slot to late in the first round - possibly draft "Baby Sapp" DT Mike Patterson out of USC (or Matt Jones) and pick up a 3rd rounder in the process.

That's 5 possible picks on the first day. Not bad. The only problem is - I don't think that Ware will last until the #16 pick.

[Sarge]

We won't, we are trading down unless Williams is there and we still might if he is.

We are gonna look at Pollack in the teens, Spears or Roth at #20, Tuck late first or early 2nd or we go OT or WR and use the extra picks to trade for Howard.

I bet we trade down with both picks.

I can see trading down but I can't even see Roth going in the first round. Actually , I can see it, but I think he'll more than likely go in the 2nd.

[CowboyChris]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!! noone has come close to answering my question, which player or players best fit a Willie McGinnest type? thats who BP will be targeting i can almost assure it.

[speedkilz88]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!! noone has come close to answering my question, which player or players best fit a Willie McGinnest type? thats who BP will be targeting i can almost assure it.I think Merriman compares with McGinest, but Ware does to some extent also. Ware compares best to Abraham, another BP disciple.

[blindzebra]

I can see trading down but I can't even see Roth going in the first round. Actually , I can see it, but I think he'll more than likely go in the 2nd.

Roth was the best DE at the senior bowl practices. His numbers were far better than anybody except Pollacks. The guy is a football player PERIOD.

He's a steal in the 20 to 25 range, IMO.

Just wait and see.

[dbair1967]

Roth was the best DE at the senior bowl practices. His numbers were far better than anybody except Pollacks. The guy is a football player PERIOD.

He's a steal in the 20 to 25 range, IMO.

Just wait and see.

I like Roth for the reasons you mention too, but agree with Sarge that 20 is too high for him...I think he'll go at the end of rd 1 or top of rd 2

David

[AJM1613]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland selects Merriman with the third pick.

[blindzebra]

I like Roth for the reasons you mention too, but agree with Sarge that 20 is too high for him...I think he'll go at the end of rd 1 or top of rd 2

David

I've seen him going to STL at #19, Dallas at #20, Seattle at #23, GB at #24, Denver at #25, and SD at #28 in various mocks. I don't think he gets past that run on DEs.

[dbair1967]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland selects Merriman with the third pick.

wow I would...if they did it'd be a continuance of being the worst team in the league on draft day...they have made a ton of truly awful early picks, and last yrs idiocy of giving a 2nd rd pick away to move up one spot for a TE was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen

I cant imagine their new regime will eb as stupid as one thats gone though

David

[AJM1613]

wow I would...if they did it'd be a continuance of being the worst team in the league on draft day...they have made a ton of truly awful early picks, and last yrs idiocy of giving a 2nd rd pick away to move up one spot for a TE was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen

I cant imagine their new regime will eb as stupid as one thats gone though

David

I wouldn't think it would be that bad of a pick, a little bit of a stretch but Merriman is exactly the type of player they need if the two quarterbacks are selected 1-2.

[blindzebra]

wow I would...if they did it'd be a continuance of being the worst team in the league on draft day...they have made a ton of truly awful early picks, and last yrs idiocy of giving a 2nd rd pick away to move up one spot for a TE was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen

I cant imagine their new regime will eb as stupid as one thats gone though

David

Like all the teams at the top they are screwed because nobody wants to be in the top 5 in this draft.

In an ideal world they'd trade down to the 10-15 range and add 3 or 4 players in the top 40 and get Frye or Campbell at QB at the top of the 2nd.

Right now the only teams in the top 10 with a legit shot at moving down are AZ and DET because of the group looking for an edge rusher of Dallas, SD, and HOU. Both SD and Houston are much more likely to trade up for Merriman or Ware.

[big dog cowboy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland selects Merriman with the third pick.
Wouldn't surprise me either. Since most of their old d-line is now in Denver.

[The30YardSlant]

I think its obvious, you dont know when to use commas :D