49 Bodies Dumped Beside a Highway in Mexico

[Hostile]

Heads gone, hands gone, feet gone.

http://news.yahoo.com/49-headless-bodies-dumped-north-mexico-highway-225844950.html

The motive...drug wars.

MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) — Forty-nine bodies with their heads, hands and feet hacked off were found Sunday dumped on a northern Mexico highway leading to the Texas border in what appeared to be the latest carnage in an escalating war between Mexico's two dominant drug cartels.

[JBond]

Nothing unusual. Coming to your neighborhood soon.

[casmith07]

This is bad stuff man, but these guys are committing these acts over more than just product. Pride, respect, ego, etc. all of that comes into play.

[CliffnMesquite]

Only 49 ? Slackers.

[Hoofbite]

Buddy of mine is going to Belize this summer.

His girlfriend wanted to go to Guatemala City for a day or two and he pretty much said it wasn't happening. They had something like 40 murders per week there and aside from the BUS RIDE (who the hell would sign up for that?), having that many people die on a weekly basis just isn't a good thing.

[RastaRocket]

It's the wild west over there and they are making tons of money off us Americans.

In other news today; we have TSA agents being paid off by the cartels to smuggle straight through the airport. They pretty much just pay off whoever they want and get it straight into the country for nothing compared to what they are making.

TSA Drug-Running Scandal Betrays Drug War’s Pretense
Posted by Bill Conroy - May 13, 2012 at 12:53 am
The Cost of Bribing US Border and Airport Security Personnel Is Chump Change in the Narco-Trafficking Business

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2012/05/tsa-drug-running-scandal-betrays-drug-war-s-pretense

[Ren]

North Mexico is one of the most dangerous regions in the world and no matter what they try that will probably never change. As long as the demand for drugs in the US is so high they'll always be fighting over the border crossings once the drugs are inn there's really not much point in fighting over it anymore.

I wouldn't worry to much about it spilling over Juarez is the single worst place in the whole world it seems, right across the border El Paso is one of the safest cities in the US.

Mexico isn't that bad once you get away from the north i spent 2 months there earlier this year including 5 weeks in Mexico city and i never felt unsafe apart from the time i accidentally ended up in Tepito

[burmafrd]

North Mexico is one of the most dangerous regions in the world and no matter what they try that will probably never change. As long as the demand for drugs in the US is so high they'll always be fighting over the border crossings once the drugs are inn there's really not much point in fighting over it anymore.

I wouldn't worry to much about it spilling over Juarez is the single worst place in the whole world it seems, right across the border El Paso is one of the safest cities in the US.

Mexico isn't that bad once you get away from the north i spent 2 months there earlier this year including 5 weeks in Mexico city and i never felt unsafe apart from the time i accidentally ended up in Tepito


I live in Las cruces and that is TOTAL BS about El Paso being that safe.
A LOT never gets reported.

[CliffnMesquite]

Buddy of mine is going to Belize this summer.

His girlfriend wanted to go to Guatemala City for a day or two and he pretty much said it wasn't happening. They had something like 40 murders per week there and aside from the BUS RIDE (who the hell would sign up for that?), having that many people die on a weekly basis just isn't a good thing.

That would be like taking a self guided walking tour of Chicago.

[Sam I Am]

Actually, I only left 48 of them. Someone else must have left another.

[burmafrd]

Actually, I only left 48 of them. Someone else must have left another.

sloppy

[The30YardSlant]

Those Mexican drug lords don't **** around.

[The30YardSlant]

I live in Las cruces and that is TOTAL BS about El Paso being that safe.
A LOT never gets reported.

Meh, I've spent a good amount of time there and never felt unsafe. The police and border patrol really overcompensate because Juarez is basically the most dangerous city on the planet.

[casmith07]

I've never felt unsafe in Mexico either.

Juarez is out of control and even the Mexican authorities pretty much let it be what it is.

Also re: "spill over" - no, won't happen. It's not "coming to your neighborhood." If that were the case it would've done so in the 80s and 90s. All this violence isn't new, it's just publicized now.

[big dog cowboy]

I've never felt unsafe in Mexico either.


Me either. Then again I've never been. :D

[Rack Bauer]

because Juarez is basically the most dangerous city on the planet.

Not even close.

[Rack Bauer]

Also re: "spill over" - no, won't happen. It's not "coming to your neighborhood." If that were the case it would've done so in the 80s and 90s. All this violence isn't new, it's just publicized now.

Tell that to my nephew who was murdered by Zetas (sp?) 8 years ago.


It already HAS spilled over, a long time ago.

[casmith07]

Not even close.

Yeah I was going to say I'll take Baghdad for 400, Alex.

[Doomsday101]

I don’t see what is taking place in Mexico the same as the streets of Chicago. I see this more like what took place in Columbia during Pablo Escobar reign. Political people, members of the media and police being executed and bodies put on display by the cartel is nothing close to run of the mill criminal activity. This is meant to intimidate anyone who thinks of standing in the way. Things are much worse in Mexico than they have been in the past.

[The30YardSlant]

Yeah I was going to say I'll take Baghdad for 400, Alex.

Not really comparable as this is like saying that Berlin was the most dangerous city in the world in 1945.

[Sam I Am]

because Juarez is basically the most dangerous city on the planet.

Not even close.

If you note, "non-war zone" cities, it is in consideration with several other cities like Bogata and San Pedro Sula.

By war zone, I mean were there is active war / uprising violence or military type service (more than just local PD) actively patrol a city to keep the peace. (ie, Bagdad, Mogadishu, Grozny, Lebanon, etc)

[The30YardSlant]

Not even close.

Well technically it is the second most dangerous in terms of violent crime but the most dangerous (San Pedro Sula in Honduras) is a product of a massive prison which is incredibly easy to escape from. Juarez has the second highest murder rate in the world and the highest drug-related violent crime rate in the world (and by a wide margin).

[The30YardSlant]

If you note, "non-war zone" cities, it is in consideration with several other cities like Bogata and San Pedro Sula.

By war zone, I mean were there is active war / uprising violence or military type service (more than just local PD) actively patrol a city to keep the peace. (ie, Bagdad, Mogadishu, Grozny, Lebanon, etc)

Bingo, you can't logically count war zones. EVEN THEN, San Perdo Sula and Juarez are comparable in terms of violent deaths per capita.

[burmafrd]

Meh, I've spent a good amount of time there and never felt unsafe. The police and border patrol really overcompensate because Juarez is basically the most dangerous city on the planet.

I talk to people who live there and work here every day. They would know.

[Ren]

I live in Las cruces and that is TOTAL BS about El Paso being that safe.
A LOT never gets reported.


That's the same for every major city, a few years ago El Paso was rated the 2nd safest city in the US i really only have that to go by i haven't been there in years my self so i have obviously no first hand experience, but compared to what's across that border it really night and day.

[Doomsday101]

That's the same for every major city, a few years ago El Paso was rated the 2nd safest city in the US i really only have that to go by i haven't been there in years my self so i have obviously no first hand experience, but compared to what's across that border it really night and day.

I'm not concerned with the spillover in El Paso as much as the major cities in Texas like Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Much of the cartel use these cities as hubs not El Paso

[Ren]

I'm not concerned with the spillover in El Paso as much as the major cities in Texas like Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Much of the cartel use these cities as hubs not El Paso

Unless you have mexico levels of corruption in the police force the chances of them gaining control of any US cities the way they control Juarez and Monterrey are 0.

[Doomsday101]

Unless you have mexico levels of corruption in the police force the chances of them gaining control of any US cities the way they control Juarez and Monterrey are 0.

I don't expect them to have the same control. As for the corruption of the police. Let me say when the Cartel goes after your family, wife and kids, mother and father it becomes hard from many of the police not to take money and look the other way. The cartel does not play around and they will not go after just the individual they go after those you care about. This is why you see so many of the police in the drug task force cover their faces but even at that once the information gets out you can't protect those you care about. These cartels are nothing like your avg street criminals

[ABQCOWBOY]

North Mexico is one of the most dangerous regions in the world and no matter what they try that will probably never change. As long as the demand for drugs in the US is so high they'll always be fighting over the border crossings once the drugs are inn there's really not much point in fighting over it anymore.

I wouldn't worry to much about it spilling over Juarez is the single worst place in the whole world it seems, right across the border El Paso is one of the safest cities in the US.

Mexico isn't that bad once you get away from the north i spent 2 months there earlier this year including 5 weeks in Mexico city and i never felt unsafe apart from the time i accidentally ended up in Tepito

El Paso is not all that safe anymore. Even with Bliss, DEA, ICE, Customs/Boarder Patrol, it's not very safe. Seriously.

[RS12]

Live by the sword.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Live by the sword.


Run away and you'll only die tired.

[joseephuss]

Live by the sword.

Die by a gunshot wound. Who is dumb enough to use swords anymore? :D

[Rynie]

I've lived in Texas my entire life, and I've NEVER been to Mexico. I don't really plan on it either.

[Yeagermeister]

I've lived in Texas my entire life, and I've NEVER been to Mexico. I don't really plan on it either.

I've been a couple of times and don't plan on going back.

[Sam I Am]

I've been to Cancun and Cozumel. Cancun had the nicer hotels, but the place just sucks. Cozumel's hotels aren't that great, but the awesome snorkeling makes it easily worth it.

[Doomsday101]

I've been to Cancun and Cozumel. Cancun had the nicer hotels, but the place just sucks. Cozumel's hotels aren't that great, but the awesome snorkeling makes it easily worth it.

My experince in Cancun was great. Had a lot of fun caught my 1st White Marlin there.

[Sam I Am]

My experince in Cancun was great. Had a lot of fun caught my 1st White Marlin there.

My issue is this these:

Hotels are way to close together and they are high towers. You lay on the beach and the hotel next door blocks out your sun if you are out there and it's past noon / 1pm. :mad:
The downtown area is dirty and the people that work there (especially at the Hard Rock) just plain suck and don't care.
Too many people begging you to buy crap or trying to scam you the second you step foot out of the hotel. (I heard it happens in some hotels too, but our Hotel didn't allow it or those idiot time-share / cigar / art sellers do business in our hotel, or the little chicklet gum selling kids)


I know there was something else, but I can't think of it now. In Cozumel, our hotel was aged, but the service was really good. We drove around the island and we had a good time doing that. Cozumel I would go back to just for the snorkeling.

[Doomsday101]

My issue is this these:

Hotels are way to close together and they are high towers. You lay on the beach and the hotel next door blocks out your sun if you are out there and it's past noon / 1pm. :mad:
The downtown area is dirty and the people that work there (especially at the Hard Rock) just plain suck and don't care.
Too many people begging you to buy crap or trying to scam you the second you step foot out of the hotel. (I heard it happens in some hotels too, but our Hotel didn't allow it or those idiot time-share / cigar / art sellers do business in our hotel, or the little chicklet gum selling kids)


I know there was something else, but I can't think of it now. In Cozumel, our hotel was aged, but the service was really good. We drove around the island and we had a good time doing that. Cozumel I would go back to just for the snorkeling.

dude when your drinking when the sun comes up until it goes down those are minor things. :laugh2:

Add to that this trip was just myself and a good buddy of mine. We spent a lot of time riding motor scooters, heading down to the marina to charter boats for fishing, snorkeling away from the tour guilds and just having fun.

Now you add a wife for girlfriend into the mix Yeah I could see where it would not be a fun vacation. :laugh2:

To me it is like camping when it is just me and my buddies we always have a fun time only when we add women into the mix do all those inconvenient annoy us because it annoys them.
:laugh2:

[trickblue]

My issue is this these:
Hotels are way to close together and they are high towers. You lay on the beach and the hotel next door blocks out your sun if you are out there and it's past noon / 1pm. :mad:
The downtown area is dirty and the people that work there (especially at the Hard Rock) just plain suck and don't care.
Too many people begging you to buy crap or trying to scam you the second you step foot out of the hotel. (I heard it happens in some hotels too, but our Hotel didn't allow it or those idiot time-share / cigar / art sellers do business in our hotel, or the little chicklet gum selling kids)
I know there was something else, but I can't think of it now. In Cozumel, our hotel was aged, but the service was really good. We drove around the island and we had a good time doing that. Cozumel I would go back to just for the snorkeling.

Cancun is no different than going to Miami Beach... it's so Americanized with American chain restaurants and MTV-like atmosphere...

Playa del Carmen is quickly getting commercialized, but is much better... try Puerto Morelos... still has the charm of Old Mexico and the reef is still pristine there...

[casmith07]

Not really comparable as this is like saying that Berlin was the most dangerous city in the world in 1945.

It's not like saying that at all.

[joseephuss]

Cancun is no different than going to Miami Beach... it's so Americanized with American chain restaurants and MTV-like atmosphere...

Playa del Carmen is quickly getting commercialized, but is much better... try Puerto Morelos... still has the charm of Old Mexico and the reef is still pristine there...

I've heard that Isla Mujeres is a good spot to hit because it has yet to be commercialized.

[JBond]

Those Mexican drug lords don't **** around.

We know they are well armed thanks to the Justice Department and the BATF.

[arglebargle]

We know they are well armed thanks to the Justice Department and the BATF.

Like they wouldn't have been well armed otherwise?

The Zetas are founded by ex special forces military, and have recruited more during their rise.

[JBond]

Like they wouldn't have been well armed otherwise?

The Zetas are founded by ex special forces military, and have recruited more during their rise.

I am sure they are putting the thousands of weapons we gave them to good use.

I wonder who they plan to pick up off with the 50cal sniper riffles?

[arglebargle]

I am sure they are putting the thousands of weapons we gave them to good use.

I wonder who they plan to pick up off with the 50cal sniper riffles?

Again, because they magickally wouldn't have gotten those weapons anyway?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Again, because they magickally wouldn't have gotten those weapons anyway?

This may be true or not, there is no real way to prove the statement one way or the other. However, it does not make it OK, regardless. If they were going to get those guns anyway, better to have gotten them from somebody other then us and that is the simple truth to it.

[vta]

Again, because they magickally wouldn't have gotten those weapons anyway?

Are you serious? Hey why not let's give some school kids drugs, they're going to get them anyway. :P

[junk]

I've been to Cancun and Cozumel. Cancun had the nicer hotels, but the place just sucks. Cozumel's hotels aren't that great, but the awesome snorkeling makes it easily worth it.

Love Cozumel. We've gone the last two years and will be going back again this year.

Where did you stay?

[burmafrd]

Are you serious? Hey why not let's give some school kids drugs, they're going to get them anyway. :P


yeah- very dumb arguement

[arglebargle]

If you are going to track underground weapons shipments, you have to actually have some weapons to track.

These guys are multi-millionaires in high-end organized crime cartels. They will get any guns they want. Or do you think they are somehow now restricted to saturday night special .38 snubbies because this avenue of procurement is gone?

[Sam I Am]

Love Cozumel. We've gone the last two years and will be going back again this year.

Where did you stay?

Cozumel Palace (http://www.palaceresorts.com/cozumelpalace/default-en.html).

[vta]

If you are going to track underground weapons shipments, you have to actually have some weapons to track.

These guys are multi-millionaires in high-end organized crime cartels. They will get any guns they want. Or do you think they are somehow now restricted to saturday night special .38 snubbies because this avenue of procurement is gone?

:laugh2:

Ah that was the plan all along. 'Now we got 'em'.

I was thinking of writing my Congressman and asking if he would just do something about saving Iran the trouble and just send them some of our nukes. They'll get them any way, so we might as well just cut out the middle man, give them ours then promptly bomb the hell out them.

[ABQCOWBOY]

If you are going to track underground weapons shipments, you have to actually have some weapons to track.

These guys are multi-millionaires in high-end organized crime cartels. They will get any guns they want. Or do you think they are somehow now restricted to saturday night special .38 snubbies because this avenue of procurement is gone?

If that was the plan, it failed multiple times. I don't buy that line of reasoning at all. Should not take more then once to figure out that it doesn't work.

[JBond]

If that was the plan, it failed multiple times. I don't buy that line of reasoning at all. Should not take more then once to figure out that it doesn't work.

In fact it did work under the previous regime. They prosecuted over 600 people for illegal gun purchases. Then for some unknown reason Holder decided to let guns walk instead of arresting people. Crazy. He actually thought this asinine plan would work. Not the brightest guy.

Lol he thought he was going to track sniper rifles to the king pin's house and arrest him....It's comical.

Meanwhile the tax payers were forced to pay for these weapons we gave to narco-terrorists and they are turning up at crime scenes all over the place. Holder should be spending the rest of his life in prison.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Actually, I think the previous Administration failed as well. They may have had some arrests, I don't know, but they tried to tag all the guns as well and follow them but the guns were taken to locations inside Mexico and left there until aircraft charged with the responsibility of tracking the weapons ran out of fuel. They were then moved and the U.S. Government lost them. That was when the idea of walking guns was ended under the previous administration.

It should never have happened again.

[joseephuss]

These guys were getting guns no matter what. It doesn't excuse what was done on this side because what they did was inexcusable. It is just a fact that guns were gathered from multiple places and means including those from the DoJ.

[RS12]

These guys were getting guns no matter what. It doesn't excuse what was done on this side because what they did was inexcusable. It is just a fact that guns were gathered from multiple places and means including those from the DoJ.

This. Dont want to rock anybodies world but here in So Cal last weekend LAPD had their annual gun buy back from the public, no questions asked. As usual they bought back hundreds of illegal guns, including one rocket launcher. If small time hoodlums and the general public can get their hands on stuff like this, imagine what people with resources can get a hold of with no problem.

[RastaRocket]

My issue is this these:

Hotels are way to close together and they are high towers. You lay on the beach and the hotel next door blocks out your sun if you are out there and it's past noon / 1pm. :mad:
The downtown area is dirty and the people that work there (especially at the Hard Rock) just plain suck and don't care.
Too many people begging you to buy crap or trying to scam you the second you step foot out of the hotel. (I heard it happens in some hotels too, but our Hotel didn't allow it or those idiot time-share / cigar / art sellers do business in our hotel, or the little chicklet gum selling kids)


I know there was something else, but I can't think of it now. In Cozumel, our hotel was aged, but the service was really good. We drove around the island and we had a good time doing that. Cozumel I would go back to just for the snorkeling.

Go to Playa Del Carmen. My roommate's family has a home on the beach near where the boat to Cozumel launches. I'm sure you've been there if you've been to Cozumel. Not far away from Cancun and less of a giant tourist area. It definitely is a tourist area but a smaller town than Cancun. We even took a trip to the middle of the Yucatan and explored Mayan ruins and this sweet cenote that was down inside a cave. Beautiful area.

[Doomsday101]

The fact that the Cartel can buy weapons at anytime has nothing to do with anything. US selling them in some sort of poorly ran sting operation is stupid and it cost people their lives and we contributed to it. You can spin it how ever you want but those are the facts and no one has been able to dispute it yet