All things Star Trek: Geeks Unite!

[Faerluna]

Favorite version of ST?

Favorite characters?

Favorite episodes?

Anything else?

[CashMan]

Favorite version of ST?

Favorite characters?

Favorite episodes?

Anything else?




Ds9
Quark, Geordi La Forge, and Capt. Pike in the movie(cause I like Bruce Greenwood)
The one where the go back in time to TOS in DS9
There needs to be a new series!

[Phoenix]

Favorite version of ST?

TNG


Favorite characters?

Wesley....I KID! :laugh2:


Q
Worf
7 of 9
Spock
Data
Guinan


Favorite episodes?

All Good Things
The TNG episode where Enterprise got stuck in a repetitive time loop and kept getting destroyed over and over
Locutus of Borg 2-parter


Anything else?

I vividly remember watching my first episode as a kid, on a b/w TV. It was one where Kirk & Spock were in the past, and I saw these pointy ears, thought ***? and became glued to the TV and a fan of the franchise instantly :)

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

Favorite version of ST?

TNG


Favorite characters?

Wesley....I KID! :laugh2:


Q
Worf
7 of 9
Spock
Data
Guinan


Favorite episodes?

All Good Things
The TNG episode where Enterprise got stuck in a repetitive time loop and kept getting destroyed over and over
Locutus of Borg 2-parter


Anything else?

I vividly remember watching my first episode as a kid, on a b/w TV. It was one where Kirk & Spock were in the past, and I saw these pointy ears, thought ***? and became glued to the TV and a fan of the franchise instantly :)

That's almost exactly what I was going to say. Even the Wesley joke. LOL

[Yeagermeister]

Favorite version of ST?

Favorite characters?

Favorite episodes?

Anything else?

I have liked all of them

It would be easier to list the ones I didn't like.....Dr. Bashir was about the only character I really disliked

I don't know them by name

[Faerluna]

Favorite version of ST?

DS9 or Voyager

Favorite characters?

Picard, Odo, Chakote, Jadzea Dax

Favorite episodes?

Fair Haven episodes (Voyager) and Blink of an Eye (Voyager). Blink of an Eye was the one where they find a planet that exists is a much slower time rate and the people of the planet think that Voyager is a new star in the sky.

Anything else?

I started watching ST after watching one of the movies (might have been WoK but I can't remember) at a friend's house. I couldn't get enough of it after that. Even Enterprise.

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

TNG

Q, Worf, Lore

Hard to say on the episodes. So many good ones.
Cause and Effect, the loop episode
Q Who, first encounter with the Borg

I like most of the series except Voyager. Didn't care for it too much. I even liked Enterprise quite a bit.

[CashMan]

Another good episode was a TNG one when the Enterprise met the old Enterprise and Tasha went back in time with it.

[Phoenix]

Talk about timely! :)

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/17/star-trek-universal-translator-to-join-war-on-terror/



http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/Star%20Trek%20Universal%20Translator.jpg
Is the fanciful universal translator that let Captain Kirk and co. communicate close to reality? (Paramount)





Imagine being able to turn up in any city anywhere in the world and speak freely with the locals.


It was fiction as Star Trek’s Universal Translator, in the hands of Lieutenant Uhura, chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise who kept Captain Kirk in touch with both Starfleet Command and the universe at large.


It’s now nearly a reality and may soon be in the hands of U.S. boots on the ground.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I guess I like the Original Star Trek. I like them all but the original is the one I remember with a certain nostalgia.

I always liked Kirk and Spoke, of course but I really liked Warf from NG and DS9, Quark and Data. Jadzia Dax, Lt. Rand from back in the day, Tipol, and of course, Seven of Nine were all smokinhot! Throw in Minuet as well. She only had a small role in one or two episodes but she was way gorgeous.

Favorite Episode is tough. I guess maybe "All Good Things."

I wish there was still a Star Trek Series on. I would still watch it.

[trickblue]

Favorite characters?

Ensign Ricky, of course... ;)

[DallasEast]

Favorite version of ST?That's hard for me to answer. I pretty much loved TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager equally well. If anything, Enterprise fell short of my expectations, but I enjoyed the final three seasons enough to not be completely disappointed.
Favorite characters?Too many to list. Least favorites is another question. Neelix from Voyager, Quark's brother's wife from DS9 (glad she wasn't a regular) and Hoshi (the communications officer) from Enterprise.

I have tried to imagine TNG without Marina Sirtis, but biology never allows me to hate on her for very long. :cool: I was practically born with TOS, so its hard for me to hate on any of the series characters. However, I still enjoy watching Christopher Lloyd's Klingon character being killed in The Search For Spock. Even though I love him in Taxi and Return To The Future, he was horrible, H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E casting. :banghead:

Favorite episodes?You are evil. :D Way too many, but if I were stuck with one per series...

TOS - The Enterprise Incident
TNG - The Best Of Both Worlds
DS9 - Favor The Bold/Sacrifice Of Angels (actually one episode/referred to this episode in the other ST thread)
Voyager - Scorpion (was highly tempted to add Year Of Hell)
Enterprise - Carbon Creek (this is actually an early second season episode which aired when some fans were already tuning out)

Anything else?All the series have excellent lead-ins/opening themes, but Voyager is the best of all of them without question in my opinion:

eofNOxhisX4

The animation is superb. Heck, I get chills every time the "camera" following the ship "passes through" the rocks that composed the planet's rings. The music resonates with the premise of the show: a Starfleet crew isolated yet inspired. It will forever be one of my all-time favorite television openings regardless of genre.

The animated series does not get enough respect in my opinion. Even though it was Saturday morning cartoon fare, it had its moments.

[MonsterD]

Star Trek always has been superior to Star Wars and always will be.

Jar-Jar Binks=nail in the coffin.

But seriously they should do an old Star Wars KOTOR type series and do it seriously and thoughtfully as in like a movie that isn't a goofy characterization on itself.

New Star Trek movie will again have some non Star Trek universe plot. Ugh.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ensign Ricky, of course... ;)


Auhhh yes......... Ensign Ricky. Good choice.

[Sam I Am]

No paticular order

Favorite Series

TOS
TNG
Voyager


If pressed, I would probably go with TNG.

Favorite Characters

Kirk
Spock
Scotty
Khan (if you include movies)
Dr. McCoy
Picard
Laforge
Data
Warf
Q
Janeway
B'Elanna Torres
Tuvok
Seven of Nine
The guy in the red shirt on away parties

Even if pressed, I couldn't name a favorite. Some of these characters IMO should be in some type of HoF for TV characters.

Favorite Episodes
I never paid much attention to their names, but I have a few that I really liked. The Q episodes were almost always good. The TOS with the little fluffy things (Wuggles or something) The Borg episodes were usually good too.

Other

As someone else mentioned. Definitely need a new series. The bad thing about it, is I really don't have / make time for TV and probably wouldn't end up watching it.

[MonsterD]

BTW if anyone wants to see a good starship database, I found this one last time there was a starship peeing contest in here. :laugh2: But really it has some pretty great detail.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/starship_database.htm

[DallasEast]

Ds9
Quark, Geordi La Forge, and Capt. Pike in the movie(cause I like Bruce Greenwood)
The one where the go back in time to TOS in DS9That was a very nice meshing of scenes from TOS with DS9. One of my favorite parts was O'Brien (I think) questioning Worf why did Klingons look so different from him back then. I forget his response, but it was too funny. :muttley:
There needs to be a new series!Indeed. Perhaps J.J. Abrams will do us the honors. :)

[DallasEast]

Favorite characters?

Wesley....I KID! :laugh2:Has anyone watched Eureka on SyFy? Wil Wheaton has a recurring character on the show. He was a handsome young man on TNG, but he grew into an UGLY adult. I think he has made some appearances on The Big Bang Theory too. He really let himself go.

[MonsterD]

Ashley Judd stuffing her face and talking about her on Star Trek TNG. She was like 21 or 22 at the time.

nFthhb-zJSQ

[DallasEast]

Another good episode was a TNG one when the Enterprise met the old Enterprise and Tasha went back in time with it.
Yesterday's Enterprise. Excellent choice. Stewart had a great line at the end: "Let history never forget the name... Enterprise" or something like that.

[DallasEast]

Ashley Judd stuffing her face and talking about her on Star Trek TNG. She was like 21 or 22 at the time.

nFthhb-zJSQ
Thanks for posting that. I have wondered for years how she landed that part on the show before her career took off. Good trivia. Loved the part where she talks about wardrobe. It's one of the things I've always like about all the Star Trek series and its female stars. :cunning:

[Sam I Am]

Has anyone watched Eureka on SyFy? Wil Wheaton has a recurring character on the show. He was a handsome young man on TNG, but he grew into an UGLY adult. I think he has made some appearances on The Big Bang Theory too. He really let himself go.

I follow him on G+. He looks the exact same except + a couple of years and he has a beard now.

[ABQCOWBOY]

OK, well, I've waited long enough. Lets get the Geekdom rolling here.

Best ship?


Hottest Star Trek Girl?

[DallasEast]

I have liked all of them

It would be easier to list the ones I didn't like.....Dr. Bashir was about the only character I really disliked

I don't know them by nameI do not dislike him as much as I hated when they decided to remake his character into some genetically enhanced super-genius. It seemed totally unnecessary in my opinion.

Alexander Siddig is his English acting name. His uncle is Malcolm McDowell (I didn't know that until after the series had ended). If anyone wants to see his actual arabic name, you can google his acting name. I would have LOVED it if the show had added it to the show's credits each episode. It would have filled the screen! :laugh1:

[DallasEast]

I follow him on G+. He looks the exact same except + a couple of years and he has a beard now.
Really? Okay. We REALLY disagree. :laugh2:

[Sam I Am]

OK, well, I've waited long enough. Lets get the Geekdom rolling here.

Best ship?


Hottest Star Trek Girl?

Best ship? Bird of Prey!

http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/75spaceships/main/birdofprey.jpg

Hottest girl? Of the top of my head I will go with Sub-Commander T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) when not in costume. :)

Most images are of her in a bikini, so I can't post them here. You can Google her though. :)

[Sam I Am]

Really? Okay. We REALLY disagree. :laugh2:

/shrug He isn't rail thin anymore, but you can see he isn't 16 and he has a beard.

http://api.ning.com/files/mZvfDB1omHaK7Ha2BTrV5VSadlCUnw5hg-tBOPPFUeBmmvHnPmz29tWc-fdDIvZiLtNoUZRfSPKRVaQjfYna5kWkyXXQxZ8U/WilWheaton2.jpghttp://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/100405/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/1_mon/100405wil-wheaton1.jpg

[DallasEast]

OK, well, I've waited long enough. Lets get the Geekdom rolling here.

Best ship?TNG has the benefit of movies to sway my opinion.

The Enterprise G / NCC1701G
Hottest Star Trek Girl?T'Pol/Jolene Blalock. Yep, Jeri Ryan was as fine as wine, but Blalock fitted her uniform even better than Ryan--as incredible as that is.

[ScipioCowboy]

Another good episode was a TNG one when the Enterprise met the old Enterprise and Tasha went back in time with it.

Yesterday's Enterprise.

[DallasEast]

Of the top of my head I will go with Sub-Commander T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) when not in costume. :)Beat me to it. ;)

[DallasEast]

/shrug He isn't rail thin anymore, but you can see he isn't 16 and he has a beard.

http://api.ning.com/files/mZvfDB1omHaK7Ha2BTrV5VSadlCUnw5hg-tBOPPFUeBmmvHnPmz29tWc-fdDIvZiLtNoUZRfSPKRVaQjfYna5kWkyXXQxZ8U/WilWheaton2.jpg (http://api.ning.com/files/mZvfDB1omHaK7Ha2BTrV5VSadlCUnw5hg-tBOPPFUeBmmvHnPmz29tWc-fdDIvZiLtNoUZRfSPKRVaQjfYna5kWkyXXQxZ8U/WilWheaton2.jpg)http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/100405/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/1_mon/100405wil-wheaton1.jpg (http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/100405/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/1_mon/100405wil-wheaton1.jpg)
Let's just say I respect your opinion. :)

[Sam I Am]

Beat me to it. ;)

HAWT! :laugh2:

[ABQCOWBOY]

T'Pol/Jolene Blalock. Yep, Jeri Ryan was as fine as wine, but Blalock fitted her uniform even better than Ryan--as incredible as that is.

Gonna have to disagree there. Fit to form pretty much picked up their ball and went home after 7of 9 walked in.

[DallasEast]

I guess I like the Original Star Trek. I like them all but the original is the one I remember with a certain nostalgia.

I always liked Kirk and Spoke, of course but I really liked Warf from NG and DS9, Quark and Data. Jadzia Dax, Lt. Rand from back in the day, Tipol, and of course, Seven of Nine were all smokinhot! Throw in Minuet as well. She only had a small role in one or two episodes but she was way gorgeous.

Favorite Episode is tough. I guess maybe "All Good Things."

I wish there was still a Star Trek Series on. I would still watch it.
Another character who had a small role (even though she appeared in more than one episode) that I thought was very attractive on screen was Dr. Leah Brahms. She was a holographic representation of a warp engine designer in one TNG episode and she returned for another episode as the actual scientist. I do not recall she her play anything outside the series though.

[DallasEast]

Gonna have to disagree there. Fit to form pretty much picked up their ball and went home after 7of 9 walked in.
For me, the margin of difference is too small to argue over. :)

[ABQCOWBOY]

Another character who had a small role (even though she appeared in more than one episode) that I thought was very attractive on screen was Dr. Leah Brahms. She was a holographic representation of a warp engine designer in one TNG episode and she returned for another episode as the actual scientist. I do not recall she her play anything outside the series though.

Susan Gibney. Yeah, she's got a certain look to her. She's come out in a few things. Lost, Night Rider, Becker, Crossing Jordan, CSI.

[Yeagermeister]

Gonna have to disagree there. Fit to form pretty much picked up their ball and went home after 7of 9 walked in.

:hammer:

[Sam I Am]

Gonna have to disagree there. Fit to form pretty much picked up their ball and went home after 7of 9 walked in.

It seems Fit to form had a twin sister.

http://mimg.ugo.com/201101/8/8/5/162588/cuts/tpol_480x480.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pV3_R4ug6I0/TKANEJXIWiI/AAAAAAAARE8/Gb5NHXLQXI8/s1600/T'Pol.jpg

If you take T'Pol out of costume, she slams Jeri Ryan around like the Hulk does this guy. (that terrible hair cut)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mWkNc9JmfGw/T6z6AMvZGiI/AAAAAAAAMeE/et1biikeyAg/s497/hulk.gif

[DallasEast]

Loved the introduction of The Q character(s) in the Trek Universe, but did anyone here besides me think he/they were made too omnipotent???

[CashMan]

Has anyone watched Eureka on SyFy? Wil Wheaton has a recurring character on the show. He was a handsome young man on TNG, but he grew into an UGLY adult. I think he has made some appearances on The Big Bang Theory too. He really let himself go.


This is an under statement! His acting on BBT, is atrocious!

[ABQCOWBOY]

For me, the margin of difference is too small to argue over. :)

I understand. I compare it to the Willie Mays/Ken Griffey Jr. discussion. They are very similar, both exceptional, both HOF players at the same position but one is just a little bit more HOFer.


:D

[DallasEast]

Susan Gibney. Yeah, she's got a certain look to her. She's come out in a few things. Lost, Night Rider, Becker, Crossing Jordan, CSI.
Thanks. I never have really gotten around to googling her. Perhaps I'll try looking her up in some of those reruns. :)

[DallasEast]

I understand. I compare it to the Willie Mays/Ken Griffey Jr. discussion. They are very similar, both exceptional, both HOF players at the same position but one is just a little bit more HOFer.


:D
Agreed. :muttley:

[ABQCOWBOY]

It seems Fit to form had a twin sister.

http://mimg.ugo.com/201101/8/8/5/162588/cuts/tpol_480x480.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pV3_R4ug6I0/TKANEJXIWiI/AAAAAAAARE8/Gb5NHXLQXI8/s1600/T'Pol.jpg

If you take T'Pol out of costume, she slams Jeri Ryan around like the Hulk does this guy. (that terrible hair cut)



Methinks thou doath protest too much.


http://www.thingsnerdslike.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/JeriRyan.jpg

[DallasEast]

BTW if anyone wants to see a good starship database, I found this one last time there was a starship peeing contest in here. :laugh2: But really it has some pretty great detail.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/starship_database.htm
Wow. That site is... well... quite extensive. :laugh2: Good post. Personal opinion: I think that Ferengi ships are really lame.

[DallasEast]

Methinks thou doath protest too much.


http://www.thingsnerdslike.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/JeriRyan.jpg
Funny. I almost posted Sam's exact red uniform pic and your exact pic after a Google search, but passed on doing it. :laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Funny. I almost posted Sam's exact red uniform pic and your exact pic after a Google search, but passed on doing it. :laugh1:

Yeah, I only posted the link. That uni is very tight. Thought better of posting it.

[Sam I Am]

I could post 1,000 pics of Blalock that you couldn't post a single pick of Jeri Ryan that would be half way compatible in complete hotness.

I really like Jeri Ryan (specifically had the hots for her when she was younger and in the ST series) Blalock's issue is they uglied her up making her a Vulcan. Take her out of costume and Ryan while still good looking is that. Only good looking. Blalock is freaking stupid hot and has a lot better body. (even compared to the younger Ryan)

Wish I could post her pics, but they show too much skin by CZ standards. Blalock was a super model after all. One of the super models that actually had curves.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I could post 1,000 pics of Blalock that you couldn't post a single pick of Jeri Ryan that would be half way compatible in complete hotness.

I really like Jeri Ryan (specifically had the hots for her when she was younger and in the ST series) Blalock's issue is they uglied her up making her a Vulcan. Take her out of costume and Ryan while still good looking is that. Only good looking. Blalock is freaking stupid hot and has a lot better body. (even compared to the younger Ryan)

Wish I could post her pics, but they show too much skin by CZ standards. Blalock was a super model after all. One of the super models that actually had curves.

Your are convincing yourself here. I'm going with 7 of 9 over T'pol but neither, IMO, is the hottest Star Trek Girl.

[Sam I Am]

Your are convincing yourself here. I'm going with 7 of 9 over T'pol but neither, IMO, is the hottest IMO.

Let me guess. Spock is your choice? :laugh2:

[Yeagermeister]

I could post 1,000 pics of Blalock that you couldn't post a single pick of Jeri Ryan that would be half way compatible in complete hotness.

I really like Jeri Ryan (specifically had the hots for her when she was younger and in the ST series) Blalock's issue is they uglied her up making her a Vulcan. Take her out of costume and Ryan while still good looking is that. Only good looking. Blalock is freaking stupid hot and has a lot better body. (even compared to the younger Ryan)

Wish I could post her pics, but they show too much skin by CZ standards. Blalock was a super model after all. One of the super models that actually had curves.

I don't find Blalock as attractive because she's ummm enhanced. Ryan is all natural. :D

[Doomsday101]

Had to be one of the worst acting of a TV series. :laugh2:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Let me guess. Spock is your choice? :laugh2:


No, Spoke would be your Screen Saver in a Thong NYC.

No, I like Minuet. She has that classy, drop dead gorgeous, sex appeal thing going on. Dax is by far prettier then either T'pol or 7 IMO. Don't count out Yeoman Rand either. When she was young, she was also put together.

[DallasEast]

Had to be one of the worst acting of a TV series. :laugh2:
:tongue: :laugh2:

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't find Blalock as attractive because she's ummm enhanced. Ryan is all natural. :D

Yeags knows.

[Doomsday101]

:tongue: :laugh2:

I think often the plot and story line were good but so much over acting it just became funny. Even more so today when you watch the old reruns.

In fairness many of the shows in the mid and late 60's were pretty corny. Like the show Lost In Space and One that is forgotten was a show called Land of the Giants

[Yeagermeister]

I think often the plot and story line were good but so much over acting it just became funny. Even more so today when you watch the old reruns.

In fairness many of the shows in the mid and late 60's were pretty corny. Like the show Lost In Space and One that is forgotten was a show called Land of the Giants

Every ST series and movie is overacting :laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think often the plot and story line were good but so much over acting it just became funny. Even more so today when you watch the old reruns.

In fairness many of the shows in the mid and late 60's were pretty corny. Like the show Lost In Space and One that is forgotten was a show called Land of the Giants

I remember Land Of The Giants.


http://sharetv.org/images/land_of_the_giants-show.jpg

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

I think often the plot and story line were good but so much over acting it just became funny. Even more so today when you watch the old reruns.

In fairness many of the shows in the mid and late 60's were pretty corny. Like the show Lost In Space and One that is forgotten was a show called Land of the Giants

I loved Land of the Giants when I was a kid. The ole safety pin grappling hook. LOL

[ABQCOWBOY]

You know what, I totally forgot about Tasha Yar. Back in the day, she was not to bad looking either.


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3238/2624354788_956a19c4b0.jpg

[Sam I Am]

Denise Crosby didn't age that well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg

[Phoenix]

Denise Crosby didn't age that well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg)


No she sure didn't. She was pretty hot Way Back When!

[DallasEast]

You know what, I totally forgot about Tasha Yar. Back in the day, she was not to bad looking either.


<a href="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3238/2624354788_956a19c4b0.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3238/2624354788_956a19c4b0.jpg (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3238/2624354788_956a19c4b0.jpg)Denise Crosby's character definitely had a following. Her character's death in Skin Of Evil was so anticlimatic. Thankfully, they brought Denise back into the TNG universe in the Redemption episode--which, ironically, was a real storyline shocker at the time. A Romulan commander who is half-human and whose mother was born decades before she existed. That's great sci-fi.

EDIT: That didn't come out quite right. :o: Tasha went back in time within the alternate reality and had a daughter around the time she herself would have been born. That's reads better. :D

[DallasEast]

Denise Crosby didn't age that well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg)
Time is the great equalizer for everyone. Just ask Wil Wheaton. Just kidding. :laugh2:



Well, not really. :laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Denise Crosby didn't age that well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg

That's no lie. She looks like the older, uglier sister of the Green Goblin.

http://marvellegends.net/Faces/ML13GreenGoblin.jpg

[Sam I Am]

That's no lie. She looks like the older, uglier sister of the Green Goblin.

http://marvellegends.net/Faces/ML13GreenGoblin.jpg

It's funny you say that. I was thinking if you made her green and put black hair and a witches hat on her, she would be the prefect Wicked Witch of the West. :laugh2:

Yes, my pretty!

[DallasEast]

That's no lie. She looks like the older, uglier sister of the Green Goblin.It's funny you say that. I was thinking if you made her green and put black hair and a witches hat on her, she would be the prefect Wicked Witch of the West. :laugh2:

Yes, my pretty!You guys show some respect! That's Bing's granddaughter, you know! :mad:



Some of our younger members are going to read this and ask, "Who is Bing?" :laugh2:

[Doomsday101]

Denise Crosby didn't age that well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg/522px-6.8.08DeniseCrosbyByLuigiNovi2.jpg

She got beamed up too many times. :laugh2:

[Sam I Am]

You guys show some respect! That's Bing's granddaughter, you know! :mad:



Some of our younger members are going to read this and ask, "Who is Bing?" :laugh2:

Maybe they can use this to figure out exactly who Bing is. :laugh2:

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/01/bing-surpasses-yahoo-us-search-market.jpg

[DallasEast]

She got beamed up too many times. :laugh2:

Maybe they can use this to figure out exactly who Bing is. :laugh2:

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/01/bing-surpasses-yahoo-us-search-market.jpg (http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/01/bing-surpasses-yahoo-us-search-market.jpg)
You guys are killing me! I can't breathe! :lmao2:

[Sam I Am]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:
I loved it also.

[DallasEast]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:Not me. I loved it. Then again, I did not think that J.J. Abrams was going to disappoint with his interpretation anyway.

He did not receive as much screentime as Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto, but I though Karl Urban was the best of the former big three characters. His Bones McCoy was practically identical to DeForest Kelley's.

[Phoenix]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:


It was okay I guess. I wasn't all that thrilled with it though.

Speaking of reboots, did you notice this on that starship database site, at the lower left?

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/eas-footer.gif (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/index.htm)

...that ain't running Windows! :D

[Sam I Am]

Some interesting factoids about Seven of Nine in the imdb section on her.

Obviously, I can't post the entire article so here is two snips of it. You can read the rest here (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001450/bio).


Full name: Seven of Nine Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix Zero-One In fact, this is a Borg designation and not actually a name. Used to be called 'Seven' by Voyager crew upon her request, and after the suggestion of Captain Janeway, as she said they could streamline it a little. (Source: VOY: Day of Honor)

Full Name at Birth: Annika Hansen Date of birth: Stardate 25479 (June 24th, 2348) Place of birth: Federation Tendara Colony Marital status: Single

Species: Human. Assimilated by Borg as an 8 year-old child. Severed from Borg collective as a 26 year-old adult, retaining portions of cybernetic implants.

Parents: Magnus & Erin Hansen (both assimilated by Borg ca. 2356); only known surviving relative is an aunt, Irene Hansen. Eccentric exobiologists Magnus and Erin Hansen investigated the existence of the Borg, who were rumoured to exist near the Delta Quadrant border. They were last reported to be leaving a remote outpost in the Omega sector, headed towards the Delta Quadrant in a small vessel, The Raven. Using a experimental cloaking technology, they could discover and study the Borg undetected. They ended up far in the Delta Quadrant when they followed a Borg cube through a series of transwarp conduits. A temporary disturbance in the cloaking technology made the Borg aware of the Raven and its crew. Annika was assimilated by the Borg in 2356 at age eight, along with her parents. It is possible that the Hansen family were the first humans to be assimilated by the Borg in the 24th century (technically, a group of time-travelling Borg had already assimilated humans in the year 2153, but these had never been part of the greater Borg collective).

Annika Hansen spent eighteen years of her life as a Borg drone, given the designation Seven of Nine. As a drone, she assisted in the assimilation of millions, from individuals to entire species. She personally assimilated many individuals from a variety of species, including Humans, Klingons, Ferengi, Bajorans, Bolians, Krenim and Cardassians. Source: (VOY: "Infinite Regress")

<snip...>

Trivia: When she was a little girl, she wanted to be a ballerina. (Source: VOY: One Small Step). Favorite color: red (Source: VOY: "The Gift"). As a young child, Annika often stayed with her aunt, Irene Hansen. Her favorite treats were strawberry tarts, which Irene once used to coax Annika out of a guest room she had locked herself in. She was very strong-willed, and did not hesitate to point out if the strawberries were not perfectly ripe. (Source: VOY: "Author, Author"). Has a great singing voice and used to duet singing frequently with the Doctor. (Source: VOY: Someone to Watch Over Me). Used to teach Neelix how to sing. However, she eventually gave up due to the fact that Neelix's vocal chords were incapable of producing basic diatonic tones. She advised Neelix to confine his singing efforts to the sonic shower. (Source: VOY: Pathfinder). Had her first date ever with lucky Lt. Chapman in the episode VOY: Someone to Watch Over Me, selecting him from the entire crew complement, using as criteria 'common interests', and recommended as a nice guy by Harry Kim. Unfortunately, the date did not go very well, as during dancing poor Lt. Chapmans ligament was torn as a result of a Seven's rigid dancing maneuvers. (Source: VOY: Someone to Watch Over Me). Her designation includes Unimatrix Zero-One which means the Borg Queen's Chambers. She and her parents used to be assigned and work close to the Borg Queen. (Source: VOY: Dark Frontier). She and Lieutenant B'Elanna Torres were always some sort of rivals since B"Elanna used to feel that Seven was invading her domain (Engineering) especially when she was taking initiatives such as enhancing Voyager systems or diverting power without asking her permission. (Source: VOY: One Small Step) Her favorite game is Kadis-kot, that used to play frequently with Naomi Wildman and Neelix. She possesses an impressive visual acuity index of ninety nine point six. (Source: VOY: Relativity)

[CliffnMesquite]

I don't find Blalock as attractive because she's ummm enhanced. Ryan is all natural. :D

Well. She is a Borg after all.

Best Ship? The U.S.S Enterprise NCC-1701. No bloody A B C or D.

Favorite epsoide? The City on the edge of Forever.

Favorite show? Deep Space Nine. ( More Umox!)

Favorite hottie? Nicole DeBore ( sp?)

:)

[CliffnMesquite]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:

I enjoyed the movie. But from a fan stand point is is blasphemy. J.J. Abrams should rot in Rurapenthy for what he did.

[Sam I Am]

I don't find Blalock as attractive because she's ummm enhanced. Ryan is all natural. :D

If you mean breast augmentation, I do not believe that is true.

There is a Youtube video called "T'Pol -vs- Seven Of Nine". There is a scene in Enterprise where they actually let T'Pol let her hair down and she is unbelievably hot in it. (and definitely doesn't look like she has had any breast augmentation)

Hit up Youtube and forward to the 1:35 mark and watch till about the 2:10 mark I believe. HAWT! :laugh2:

[Yeagermeister]

Well. She is a Borg after all.

Best Ship? The U.S.S Enterprise NCC-1701. No bloody A B C or D.

Favorite epsoide? The City on the edge of Forever.

Favorite show? Deep Space Nine. ( More Umox!)

Favorite hottie? Nicole DeBore ( sp?)

:)

T'Pol wasn't a borg

[Yeagermeister]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:

It was entertaining but didn't blow me away.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well. She is a Borg after all.

Best Ship? The U.S.S Enterprise NCC-1701. No bloody A B C or D.

Favorite epsoide? The City on the edge of Forever.

Favorite show? Deep Space Nine. ( More Umox!)

Favorite hottie? Nicole DeBore ( sp?)

:)

Nicole De Boer or Ezri Dax. Yeah, she is cute.

[Sam I Am]

Now that I think of it, Zoë Saldana is pretty hot too. (the movie reboot Uhura)

http://www.thingsnerdslike.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ZoeSaldana.jpghttp://images.askmen.com/photos/zoe-saldana/zoe-saldana-90000.jpghttp://images.askmen.com/photos/zoe-saldana/31046.jpg

[CliffnMesquite]

T'Pol wasn't a borg

I was talking about Seven. Damn universal translator!

[Yeagermeister]

I was talking about Seven. Damn universal translator!

HOSHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh1:

[Sam I Am]

Awesome image find!

Jimi Hendrix and Leonard Nimoy in the same image! :laugh2:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7GmdfYMDdRQ/T7R1K1ySjOI/AAAAAAAAQWQ/XtZA48f21Iw/s320/535789_389662411075471_1635425007_n.jpg

[Phoenix]

How about episodes you didn't quite care for? For me, "Darmok" of TNG was one...

[Sam I Am]

How about episodes you didn't quite care for? For me, "Darmok" of TNG was one...

For me, its the one where the guy in the away party is wearing red. :cool:

[DallasEast]

There were many Captain's logs made throughout all the series. Some were better than this one, but it has always been my personal favorite:

Captain's log, Stardate 43153.7: We are departing the Rana system for Starbase One Three Three. We leave behind a being of extraordinary power and conscience. I am not certain if he should be praised or condemned. Only that he should be left alone. --Captain Jean Luc Picard/Patrick Stewart, TNG, The Survivors

[CliffnMesquite]

How about episodes you didn't quite care for? For me, "Darmok" of TNG was one...

Darmok and Picard at Taco Cabana, when the walls fell.:D

[Sam I Am]

Darmok and Picard at Taco Cabana, when the walls fell.:D

:lmao2: :lmao:

I didn't even realize which episode that was until you posted this. :laugh2:

[CliffnMesquite]

If you guys want to get chocked up. Go to You Tube and watch the 40 th annavercery tribute.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I too thought Star Trek 2010 did a heck of a job matching character and yes, Karl Urban was easily the best of these. Also, I actually liked Aton Yelchin in the role of Chekov much better then Walter Koening. I never really like Chekov in the original. This one, I like a lot better.

[DallasEast]

How about episodes you didn't quite care for? For me, "Darmok" of TNG was one...
Darmok was one of my favorites. Some of my least favorite episodes:

TOS - Spock's Brain
TNG - The Loss
DS9 - Q-Less (my least favorite Q episodes)
Voyager - Tuvix (I want this episode to burn in the heart of a supernova!)
Enterprise - The Communicator

Least favorite movie - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier :puke:

[Trendnet]

Okay spill it. Who of you freaks dislikes the Star Trek movies reboot? (the new one)

I thought it was awesome and loved it, (I bought the BluRay) but I've seen some Star Trek fans complain about it. :omg:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM

[DallasEast]

Hottie or not?

http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/amoktpring.jpg (http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/amoktpring.jpg)

T'Pring (Arlene Martel) from Amok Time (TOS)

[DallasEast]

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/26966.gif

Nurse Alyssa Ogawa (TNG)

[DallasEast]

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/0/09/Fenna.jpg

Fenna (Salli Richardson) from Second Sight (DS9)

[ABQCOWBOY]

How bout Lt. Carolyn Palamas?

http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/palamas.jpg

[ABQCOWBOY]

Or none other then Joan Collins as Edith Keeler.

http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/bp-OS-Joan_Collins_Edith_Keeler_Star_Trek.jpg

[DallasEast]

How bout Lt. Carolyn Palamas?

http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/palamas.jpg (http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/palamas.jpg)
Not bad. :)

[DallasEast]

Or none other then Joan Collins as Edith Keeler.

http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/bp-OS-Joan_Collins_Edith_Keeler_Star_Trek.jpg (http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/bp-OS-Joan_Collins_Edith_Keeler_Star_Trek.jpg)
Someday, someone will find that painting of herself hidden in her attic. :p:

[DallasEast]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x41/hairy_canary_photos/nikita-ager-interpreta-la-bella-e-p.jpg (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x41/hairy_canary_photos/nikita-ager-interpreta-la-bella-e-p.jpg)

Rajiin from episode of same name (Enterprise)

[ABQCOWBOY]

I always thought that this one, Maggie Thrett was very attractive. She was one of Mudd's girls.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iugAyVV8hB0/TvyOHLIv-XI/AAAAAAAAKLg/BWtX7i23g_Y/s1600/diane2.jpg

[DallasEast]

No fair ABQ! All Mudd had to do was slip his women a placebo and they turned into gorgeous vixens! Not fair! :mad:

:lmao:

[ABQCOWBOY]

No fair ABQ! All Mudd had to do was slip his women a placebo and they turned into gorgeous vixens! Not fair! :mad:

:lmao:

If he were still alive, he'd probably be suing Viagra.

:laugh2:

[DallasEast]

If he were still alive, he'd probably be suing Viagra.

:laugh2:
:lmao2: :bow:

His character was a man ahead of his time. 23rd century, that is. :laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x41/hairy_canary_photos/nikita-ager-interpreta-la-bella-e-p.jpg (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x41/hairy_canary_photos/nikita-ager-interpreta-la-bella-e-p.jpg)

Rajiin from episode of same name (Enterprise)

Oh yeah, that's the terrorist/commando girl right?

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

I forgot about this one.

Tasha Yar's sister.

http://esensja.pl/magazyn/2009/04/img/ilustr/03,14c.jpg

[ABQCOWBOY]

You know what, we haven't posted any of the Dabo Girls. Gonna be hard to do I think. They hardly ever had any clothes on. Might be the best I can do here. Dabo Girl Leeta

http://www.reocities.com/Area51/Zone/1030/leeta.jpg

[DallasEast]

Oh yeah, that's the terrorist/commando girl right?
She was a Xindi spy sent to gather genetic material on the Enterprise crew so that they could fashion a weapon of mass destruction specific to human biology.

[DallasEast]

You know what, we haven't posted any of the Dabo Girls. Gonna be hard to do I think. They hardly ever had any clothes on. Might be the best I can do here. Dabo Girl Leeta

http://www.reocities.com/Area51/Zone/1030/leeta.jpg (http://www.reocities.com/Area51/Zone/1030/leeta.jpg)
From my first post on the thread...Least favorites is another question. Neelix from Voyager, Quark's brother's wife from DS9 (glad she wasn't a regular) and Hoshi (the communications officer) from Enterprise.Her looks were the only thing I thought was keeping her on that show. :D

[ABQCOWBOY]

From my first post on the thread...Her looks were the only thing I thought was keeping her on that show. :D

Fortunately, they were enough.


:lmao2:

[DallasEast]

Fortunately, they were enough.


:lmao2:True. :muttley:

[Faerluna]

I always liked Wil Wheaton and I really enjoy his blog. Saw this video recently and this is a great place to share it. Really touching.

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[Faerluna]

If you guys want to get chocked up. Go to You Tube and watch the 40 th annavercery tribute.

Here's that (and it's awesome!):

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[ScipioCowboy]

1) Favorite version of ST?

2) Favorite characters?

3) Favorite episodes?

4) Anything else?

1) Original series (OS).

2) Kirk
McCoy
Scotty
Data
Q (Outside of Data, Q was only character with any personality whatsoever in TNG; everyone was so stuffy and wooden.)
Quark
7 of 9
The Doctor
Trip

3) OS
Doomsday Machine
Balance of Terror
The City on the Edge of Forever
Obsession
Day of the Dove (introduced Kang, the Klingon)
The Omega Glory
Trouble with Tribbles (introduced Koloth, the Klingon
Errand of Mercy (introduced Kor, the Klingon)

TNG
Yesterday's Enterprise
Best of Both Worlds
Darmok
Where No One Has Gone Before (introduced The Traveler)
Remember Me

Movies
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek: The Wrath of Kahn
Star Trek: The Search for Spock
Star Trek: The Voyage Home

By the time DS9, VOY, and ENT came around, I was working my way through college so Star Trek didn't play as big a role in my life as it once had so I didn't watch and rewatch their episodes as frequently. Furthermore, with the exception of the Dominion War, they suffered from a lack of new ideas; by the time, everything in Star Trek had been done before.

4) Favorite ship designs

Constitution Class, Movie Refit

http://www.segginger.net/Star_Trek/Starship_Enterprise/1701-A02.jpg (http://www.segginger.net/Star_Trek/Starship_Enterprise/1701-A02.jpg)

Excelsior Class
http://www.freewebs.com/ussnewcastle/excel-asteroids.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/ussnewcastle/excel-asteroids.jpg)

Akira Class
http://www.oocities.org/shipyardsuk/akira.jpg (http://www.oocities.org/shipyardsuk/akira.jpg)

Romulan Bird of Prey
http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/7/7d/Romulan_bird-of-prey,_CG_TOS-aft.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/7/7d/Romulan_bird-of-prey,_CG_TOS-aft.jpg)

[DallasEast]

If you guys want to get chocked up. Go to You Tube and watch the 40 th annavercery tribute.
Here's that (and it's awesome!):
Thanks to both of you for suggesting/posting that video. I've always enjoyed it. Hopefully I'll still be around to see what they'll put together for the 50th anniversary. :)

FYI: for those who do not immediately recognize the flute melody which plays through most of the video, it is from the TNG episode The Inner Light. It was an essential part of one of the top ten TNG episodes in my opinion.

[DallasEast]

3) OS
Doomsday Machine

TNG
DarmokLong before there was a Death Star, there was the Doomsday Machine! Take that, George Lucas!

Just kidding, Star Wars fans. I love it as well. :)

Glad there is at least another Trek fan on this site who enjoyed Darmok too. ;) :D

[Faerluna]

FYI: for those who do not immediately recognize the flute melody which plays through most of the video, it is from the TNG episode The Inner Light. It was an essential part of one of the top ten TNG episodes in my opinion.

I loved that one, too. :)

[joseephuss]

Rachel Nichols looked good in her cameo appearance in the latest Star Trek reboot even in green.

[DallasEast]

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[DallasEast]

One of many great Avery Brooks (Captain Benjamin Sisko) moments from DS9. The episode? In The Pale Moonlight. IPocxGUWMxM

[DallasEast]

The episode which introduced Jeri Ryan to the Star Trek Voyager universe:

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[CashMan]

One of many great Avery Brooks (Captain Benjamin Sisko) moments from DS9. The episode? In The Pale Moonlight. IPocxGUWMxM


Best character in ST, Garak!

[DallasEast]

Best character in ST, Garak!
I don't necessary agree with that, but I will say he has been the best Kardashian Cardassian on television during the past twenty years. :laugh2:

...but certainly not the most pretty. ;) :p:

[Faerluna]

Best character in ST, Garak!

So much <3 for Garak!

[ScipioCowboy]

Well into my teen years, my preferred reading was Star Trek technical manuals. I was especially fond of a Canadian fan group called Strategic Design. They had some engaging ship designs and new technology ideas. They also focused on the OS era, which I enjoyed the most. Unfortunately, because they were not licensed by Paramount, none of their material was canon.

I have no idea if they're still creating material. Is anyone else familiar with them?

Also, do we have any Cyrano Jones fans in here?

[DallasEast]

Well into my teen years, my preferred reading was Star Trek technical manuals. I was especially fond of a Canadian fan group called Strategic Design. They had some engaging ship designs and new technology ideas. They also focused on the OS era, which I enjoyed the most. Unfortunately, because they were not licensed by Paramount, none of their material was canon.

I have no idea if they're still creating material. Is anyone else familiar with them?

Also, do we have any Cyrano Jones fans in here?Ha! I had forgotten his name.

Who knew trafficking in Tribbles would be so dangerous? :laugh1:

[CliffnMesquite]

Ha! I had forgotten his name.

Who knew trafficking in Tribbles would be so dangerous? :laugh1:

Tell me Worf. Do they still sing songs of the great Tribble hunt?

:laugh1:

[ScipioCowboy]

Yesterday's Enterprise was arguably the best TNG episode -- it's certainly one of my favorites -- but I must concede to being annoyed by certain aspects of the premise:

In Star Trek VI, we're led to believe that the Klingon Empire is on the verge of collapse, hence its need to ally with the Federation. How, then, a mere 50 years later, does the Klingon Empire recover so quickly that it could launch a full scale invasion of the Federation and win?

[DallasEast]

Yesterday's Enterprise was arguably the best TNG episode -- it's certainly one of my favorites -- but I must concede to being annoyed by certain aspects of the premise:

In Star Trek VI, we're led to believe that the Klingon Empire is on the verge of collapse, hence its need to ally with the Federation. How, then, a mere 50 years later, does the Klingon Empire recover so quickly that it could launch a full scale invasion of the Federation and win?
The timeframe between the two is only 38 years using Trekguide.com stardate calculators (http://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm#TNG). Kirk's final stardate entry in The Undiscovered Country was 9521.6 (November 16, 2328). Picard's stardate/combat date entry in Yesterday's Enterprise was 43625.2 (January 7, 2366).

My answer for your question is that the events, which occurred prior to Yesterday's Enterprise, happened in that alternate timeline and do not match up for that reason. Case in point: Tasha Yar is alive in Yesterday's Enterprise on the aforementioned stardate. Yet, she died 'three years prior' in the actual timeline of Skin Of Evil on stardate 41603.3 (October 25, 2363).

If Tasha's life and death deviate from a linear timeframe, what's preventing the explosion of the moon Praxis from ever occurring in the alternate timeline shown in Yesterday's Enterprise? That episode does not mention Praxis or any of the events connected with the The Undiscovered Country. Gotta love time paradoxes. :)

[CliffnMesquite]

The timeframe between the two is only 38 years using Trekguide.com stardate calculators (http://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm#TNG). Kirk's final stardate entry in The Undiscovered Country was 9521.6 (November 16, 2328). Picard's stardate/combat date entry in Yesterday's Enterprise was 43625.2 (January 7, 2366).

My answer for your question is that the events, which occurred prior to Yesterday's Enterprise, happened in that alternate timeline and do not match up for that reason. Case in point: Tasha Yar is alive in Yesterday's Enterprise on the aforementioned stardate. Yet, she died 'three years prior' in the actual timeline of Skin Of Evil on stardate 41603.3 (October 25, 2363).

If Tasha's life and death deviate from a linear timeframe, what's preventing the explosion of the moon Praxis from ever occurring in the alternate timeline shown in Yesterday's Enterprise? That episode does not mention Praxis or any of the events connected with the The Undiscovered Country. Gotta love time paradoxes. :)
I forget. How long did Picard say the war had been going on?

[CashMan]

Yesterday's Enterprise was arguably the best TNG episode -- it's certainly one of my favorites -- but I must concede to being annoyed by certain aspects of the premise:

In Star Trek VI, we're led to believe that the Klingon Empire is on the verge of collapse, hence its need to ally with the Federation. How, then, a mere 50 years later, does the Klingon Empire recover so quickly that it could launch a full scale invasion of the Federation and win?


Keep in mind, it seemed in the TOS universe the Klingons were more Japanese like, and after that they were not as well. They did evolve, in the ST universe.

[Nomad]

Going to meet Sir Patrick Stewart at Dallas Comic-con tomorrow, met Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner over the last 2 years at the same event.

Anyone in the DFW area who's interested it's Sat/Sun at the new Las Colinas Convention Center, Patrick Stewart is only there Sat but they have lots of cool stuff both days.

http://www.scifiexpo.com/DCC/dcc.html

[ABQCOWBOY]

Rachel Nichols looked good in her cameo appearance in the latest Star Trek reboot even in green.

Yep. Green is a good color for her.

[MonsterD]

Going to meet Sir Patrick Stewart at Dallas Comic-con tomorrow, met Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner over the last 2 years at the same event.

Anyone in the DFW area who's interested it's Sat/Sun at the new Las Colinas Convention Center, Patrick Stewart is only there Sat but they have lots of cool stuff both days.

http://www.scifiexpo.com/DCC/dcc.html


That is cool, if I saw him in person I would ask him(Stewart) about being in Dune and working with Lynch, that has always fascinated me.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Tell me Worf. Do they still sing songs of the great Tribble hunt?

:laugh1:


:lmao2:

[Faerluna]

Going to meet Sir Patrick Stewart at Dallas Comic-con tomorrow

Jealous!!

[CashMan]

Jealous!!

Patrick Stewart and I, share the same last name, so I like to think we are related...

[ScipioCowboy]

The timeframe between the two is only 38 years using Trekguide.com stardate calculators (http://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm#TNG). Kirk's final stardate entry in The Undiscovered Country was 9521.6 (November 16, 2328). Picard's stardate/combat date entry in Yesterday's Enterprise was 43625.2 (January 7, 2366).

My answer for your question is that the events, which occurred prior to Yesterday's Enterprise, happened in that alternate timeline and do not match up for that reason. Case in point: Tasha Yar is alive in Yesterday's Enterprise on the aforementioned stardate. Yet, she died 'three years prior' in the actual timeline of Skin Of Evil on stardate 41603.3 (October 25, 2363).

If Tasha's life and death deviate from a linear timeframe, what's preventing the explosion of the moon Praxis from ever occurring in the alternate timeline shown in Yesterday's Enterprise? That episode does not mention Praxis or any of the events connected with the The Undiscovered Country. Gotta love time paradoxes. :)

But the timeline didn't change until after the Battle of Narendra III. It made sense that Tasha was alive because her death wouldn't have taken place until after the Battle. The ensuing war prevented her from her ever facing Armis in Skin of Evil. However, Praxis exploded before the Battle of Narendra III. Why would it have changed?

Yesterday's Enterprise doesn't follow the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics (a la the new Star Trek movie); consequently, the timeline doesn't merely split when a deviation occurs, it actually changes. That's why they had to restore it.

[Faerluna]

Patrick Stewart and I, share the same last name, so I like to think we are related...

:laugh2:

[CliffnMesquite]

Patrick Stewart and I, share the same last name, so I like to think we are related...

Jackie Stewart, maybe.

;)

[ABQCOWBOY]

But the timeline didn't change until after the Battle of Narendra III. It made sense that Tasha was alive because her death wouldn't have taken place until after the Battle. The ensuing war prevented her from her ever facing Armis in Skin of Evil. However, Praxis exploded before the Battle of Narendra III. Why would it have changed?

Yesterday's Enterprise doesn't follow the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics (a la the new Star Trek movie); consequently, the timeline doesn't merely split when a deviation occurs, it actually changes. That's why they had to restore it.

As I understand it, after the destruction of Praxis, an alliance was formed between the Klingon Empire and the Romulan Empire. Two things drove the alliance. 1. Klingon's development of superior Drive Technology allowing for a significant increase in power generation. Romulans needed this design to accommodate their cloaking technology and 2. the Common enemy of both Klingon and Romulan (I assume this was the Federation and possibly Cardassia, possibly influenced by the Soliban). At that time, the Klingon Empire entered a phase in which the devoted virtually all of their resources into the Empire and not the Military. This was problematic for Romulas because they need Klingon's to continue to occupy the Federation because of the Treaty of Algeron which prevented hostilities between Romulas and the Federation. There were also certain factions within the Klingon Empire which did not want this drift between the Military to widen (Remember the House Duruas and the attempted Coup). Romulas certainly didn't want to see this happen and they desperately needed the new drive techology from the Klingon Empire. An alliance was created where by Romulas provide Raw Materials to the Klingon Empire in massive amounts in exchange for Ship Design improvements. This allowed the Klingon's to come back up to speed very rapidly.

This is how I believe it was explained.

[Yeagermeister]

Ok some of you are starting to scare me with your ST knowledge *cough* DE *cough* ABQ :laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ok some of you are starting to scare me with your ST knowledge *cough* DE *cough* ABQ :laugh1:

Well, I'd talk about football but there is much to talk about right now.

Basically, I got nothing.

:laugh2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

I never liked the DS9 show and I never cared that much for the original trek series although I liked the movies with the original crew.

[CashMan]

As I understand it, after the destruction of Praxis, an alliance was formed between the Klingon Empire and the Romulan Empire. Two things drove the alliance. 1. Klingon's development of superior Drive Technology allowing for a significant increase in power generation. Romulans needed this design to accommodate their cloaking technology and 2. the Common enemy of both Klingon and Romulan (I assume this was the Federation and possibly Cardassia, possibly influenced by the Soliban). At that time, the Klingon Empire entered a phase in which the devoted virtually all of their resources into the Empire and not the Military. This was problematic for Romulas because they need Klingon's to continue to occupy the Federation because of the Treaty of Algeron which prevented hostilities between Romulas and the Federation. There were also certain factions within the Klingon Empire which did not want this drift between the Military to widen (Remember the House Duruas and the attempted Coup). Romulas certainly didn't want to see this happen and they desperately needed the new drive techology from the Klingon Empire. An alliance was created where by Romulas provide Raw Materials to the Klingon Empire in massive amounts in exchange for Ship Design improvements. This allowed the Klingon's to come back up to speed very rapidly.

This is how I believe it was explained.


Was it explained in a book?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Was it explained in a book?

No, you have to piece together the histories of Romulus, Klingon and the facts known from both movies and series events.

[Yeagermeister]

No, you have to piece together the histories of Romulus, Klingon and the facts known from both movies and series events.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/ogre.jpg

:D

[Rackat]

www.buildtheenterprise.org

[Phoenix]

www.buildtheenterprise.org (http://www.buildtheenterprise.org)


My oh my.

[BrAinPaiNt]

My oh my.

u2ALsvU50wQ

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/ogre.jpg

:D

I am not a Nerd. I am..........





http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs4/i/2004/254/b/7/Fan_Art__Zapp_Brannigan_by_dover19.jpg


Captain Zapp Brannigan.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Oh and you can't go wrong with either 7 of 9 or T'Pol (sp?).
Although seeing a little more of T'Pol in the enterprise show tips my hand a little her way. :laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Oh and you can't go wrong with either 7 of 9 or T'Pol (sp?).
Although seeing a little more of T'Pol in the enterprise show tips my hand a little her way. :laugh1:


Would not be disappointed either way BP.

[DallasEast]

Ok some of you are starting to scare me with your ST knowledge *cough* DE *cough* ABQ :laugh1:Busted. :( :laugh1:

[DallasEast]

But the timeline didn't change until after the Battle of Narendra III. It made sense that Tasha was alive because her death wouldn't have taken place until after the Battle. The ensuing war prevented her from her ever facing Armis in Skin of Evil. However, Praxis exploded before the Battle of Narendra III. Why would it have changed?

Yesterday's Enterprise doesn't follow the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics (a la the new Star Trek movie); consequently, the timeline doesn't merely split when a deviation occurs, it actually changes. That's why they had to restore it.
The theory which you refer to lacks indeterminism. In Branching Space Time (BST) theorum, histories can differ between separately created timelines. "Prior time" or "pasts" overlap future timestream branches. Some events can be preceived as exactly the same in different timelines, yet other events could be completely different. Indeterminism allows for this theoretical meshing of probable pasts and potential futures.

[CliffnMesquite]

If you need me. I'll be in sickbay, with a...headache.
:(

[ScipioCowboy]

The theory which you refer to lacks indeterminism. In Branching Space Time (BST) theorum, histories can differ between separately created timelines. "Prior time" or "pasts" overlap future timestream branches. Some events can be preceived as exactly the same in different timelines, yet other events could be completely different. Indeterminism allows for this theoretical meshing of probable pasts and potential futures.

One problem with this:

Prior to sending the Enterprise C back in time, Captain Picard states that, if they are successful, the current timeline will "cease to exist." In BST, the separate timelines exist in infinity from the creation of the universe. They don't disappear. Consequently, the Yesterday's Enterprise timeline would've continued no matter what happened to the Enterprise C.

[DallasEast]

One problem with this:

Prior to sending the Enterprise C back in time, Captain Picard states that, if they are successful, the current timeline will "cease to exist." In BST, the separate timelines exist in infinity from the creation of the universe. They don't disappear. Consequently, the Yesterday's Enterprise timeline would've continued no matter what happened to the Enterprise C.
Okay. I'm moving well outside my element.

Strike through all my previous comments. I'll go with, "Those Klingons are real darn industrious, aren't they?" :D

[DallasEast]

If you need me. I'll be in sickbay, with a...headache.
:(
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/26966.gif

Nurse Ogawa will be taking your vitals shortly... :cunning:

[DallasEast]

(Enterprise) The Expanse

http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek_enterprise/video/?pid=apV_aEXFzrZT7MQB6yysm53J9O3ozVkg

Warning: This is a link to the complete episode. I couldn't find a clip from the episode on YouTube.

[ScipioCowboy]

Okay. I'm moving well outside my element.

Strike through all my previous comments. I'll go with, "Those Klingons are real darn industrious, aren't they?" :D

It's time for you to consult the oracle of all knowledge: Wiki. :D

In truth, the whole Multiverse idea is just a way of getting around some of the design paradoxes in the Universe. And I'll leave it at that lest it degrade quickly...

[CliffnMesquite]

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/26966.gif

Nurse Ogawa will be taking your vitals shortly... :cunning:

Actually. I saw Dr. Selar...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/BigCinBigD/e6dfa223.jpg
:)

[CowboyMike]

One problem with this:

Prior to sending the Enterprise C back in time, Captain Picard states that, if they are successful, the current timeline will "cease to exist." In BST, the separate timelines exist in infinity from the creation of the universe. They don't disappear. Consequently, the Yesterday's Enterprise timeline would've continued no matter what happened to the Enterprise C.

Okay. I'm moving well outside my element.

Strike through all my previous comments. I'll go with, "Those Klingons are real darn industrious, aren't they?" :D

I was watching this episode yesterday, in fact, and Tasha Yar specifically says "In this universe." or "In this time line", and I took it to mean they had accepted that it the Enterprise C had created a branching off timeline, but not necessarily replacing it.

In addition, if it was one linear timeline, the moment the Enterprise C went back through the portal, the Alternate Tasha Yar would have ceased to exist because she would have never existed in the first place. Instead, she continued to exist and became the mother of Sela (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Sela).

The existence of Sela and the Alternate Tasha Yar in the primary timeline is proof that Alternate Tasha did in fact not only jump back in time, but also across quantum realities.

It's the same reason Prime Spock continues to exist completely unchanged even though Nero went through the wormhole and changed history. Nero created a different timeline. He did not alter the regular one.

[DallasEast]

Actually. I saw Dr. Selar...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/BigCinBigD/e6dfa223.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/BigCinBigD/e6dfa223.jpg)
:)
I stand corrected. :wink2:

[DallasEast]

I was watching this episode yesterday, in fact, and Tasha Yar specifically says "In this universe." or "In this time line", and I took it to mean they had accepted that it the Enterprise C had created a branching off timeline, but not necessarily replacing it.

In addition, if it was one linear timeline, the moment the Enterprise C went back through the portal, the Alternate Tasha Yar would have ceased to exist because she would have never existed in the first place. Instead, she continued to exist and became the mother of Sela (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Sela).

The existence of Sela and the Alternate Tasha Yar in the primary timeline is proof that Alternate Tasha did in fact not only jump back in time, but also across quantum realities.

It's the same reason Prime Spock continues to exist completely unchanged even though Nero went through the wormhole and changed history. Nero created a different timeline. He did not alter the regular one.
Dang it if I haven't been schooled by The Most Interesting Man In The World! :mad:

:laugh2:

[CowboyMike]

Dang it if I haven't been schooled by The Most Interesting Man In The World! :mad:

:laugh2:

http://lensflareproductions.com/images/datayesoomf.gif

[ScipioCowboy]

According to some speculation, temporal paradoxes are possible as long as they're consistent.

For instance, it may be possible for me to travel back in time and give Einstein the Theory of Relativity before he's developed it even if I learned it from him. That's a paradox, but it's consistent. However, it's not possible for me to go back in time and kill my grandfather as a child. That's an inconsistent paradox.

[CowboyMike]

According to some speculation, temporal paradoxes are possible as long as they're consistent.

For instance, it may be possible for me to travel back in time and give Einstein the Theory of Relativity before he's developed it even if I learned it from him. That's a paradox, but it's consistent. However, it's not possible for me to go back in time and kill my grandfather as a child. That's an inconsistent paradox.

The theory of alternate quantum realities would allow an inconsistent paradox, because in one timeline your grandfather would continue to live on in order to lead to your birth. Whereas you traveling back in time and killing your grandfather would create a branching off reality where you never existed.

The original reality would still be intact. You'd just create an alternate reality to run parallel to the original one.

[CowboyMike]

Also, may I just say that I think it's awesome that a Star Trek thread made it 12 pages in less than two days on a Sports forum. I'm kind of bummed that I missed most of it because I was kind out out of touch yesterday.

[ScipioCowboy]

The theory of alternate quantum realities would allow an inconsistent paradox, because in one timeline your grandfather would continue to live on in order to lead to your birth. Whereas you traveling back in time and killing your grandfather would create a branching off reality where you never existed.

The original reality would still be intact. You'd just create an alternate reality to run parallel to the original one.

Yes, I understand this, hence my previous discussion of the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.

But Picard seems to imply that the alternate timeline will cease to exist if the Enterprise C is successful. He's talking about the ability to change his present circumstances based on traveling back in time. That's not MWI. MWI dictates that a new timeline is created but that your circumstances would remain the same.

Star Trek has been anything but consistent in its depiction of time travel.

[Aikmaniac]

Don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but all series of Star Trek are available on Netflix online for streaming. The movies haven't made it yet, although the newest version was up for awhile but it's not available anymore online.

[CowboyMike]

Don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but all series of Star Trek are available on Netflix online for streaming. The movies haven't made it yet, although the newest version was up for awhile but it's not available anymore online.

It is playing on FX though. It's on at least once a week.

What was everyone's opinion on the new movie? I thought it was just what the franchise needed. Very excited for the sequel.

[Sam I Am]

It is playing on FX though. It's on at least once a week.

What was everyone's opinion on the new movie? I thought it was just what the franchise needed. Very excited for the sequel.

I already asked this question earlier. I loved the movie and was quite pissed that they took so long to start making the next one. I bought it the second it came out on BluRay. :)

[CliffnMesquite]

What was everyone's opinion on the new movie? I thought it was just what the franchise needed. Very excited for the sequel.

J.J. Abrams should spend eternity tied to a dead Cardassian having his eyes eaten out by a rabid Targ.

[CashMan]

J.J. Abrams should spend eternity tied to a dead Cardassian having his eyes eaten out by a rabid Targ.


Why? It was a new direction for an old Trek series, for a new generation. If you go and rewatch TOS, it really was not that good of a series, it was just the 1st of its kind.

[Sam I Am]

Why? It was a new direction for an old Trek series, for a new generation. If you go and rewatch TOS, it really was not that good of a series, it was just the 1st of its kind.

Blasphemy! TOS was awesome. You are just trying to compare TV of the 1980s->2000s to a series recorded between 1966 and 1969.

I used to religiously stay up till 1am in the early 80s to watch the original Star Trek series when I was kid. Even if that meant sleeping in class! :laugh2:

IMO, it was *one of* the best series on TV even in the early 80s. (even though they were only reruns)

[CashMan]

Blasphemy! TOS was awesome. You are just trying to compare TV of the 1980s->2000s to a series recorded between 1966 and 1969.

I used to religiously stay up till 1am in the early 80s to watch the original Star Trek series when I was kid. Even if that meant sleeping in class! :laugh2:

IMO, it was *one of* the best series on TV even in the early 80s. (even though they were only reruns)


I will give you nostalgia, but it was not the be all end all of the ST universe. TNG is light years in front of it, IMO. I do enjoy the TOS movies except #1 and #5, but Shatner is a terrible actor.

[DallasEast]

Why? It was a new direction for an old Trek series, for a new generation. If you go and rewatch TOS, it really was not that good of a series, it was just the 1st of its kind.
Forget phasers. This calls for a Varon-T disruptor... :grrr:

[Sam I Am]

Shatner is a terrible actor.

What? You're kidding right? Shatner is one of the most well respected actors in show business. He is incredibly talented. Even Christopher Plummer knew he was great when Shatner was his understudy in 1956 for Shakespeare's Henry V. I'm not just talking about his work in ST either.

Plummer got sick one night and couldn't go on, so Shatner went on in his place. He said after seeing him play Henry V, Plummer was quoted as saying, "I knew then that the S.O.B. was going to be a 'star.'"

Shatner has been on TV / Movies since the early 50s. He has always had steady work his entire career. To say he is a terrible actor is utterly ridiculous.

[CashMan]

What? You're kidding right? Shatner is one of the most well respected actors in show business. He is incredibly talented. Even Christopher Plummer knew he was great when Shatner was his understudy in 1956 for Shakespeare's Henry V. I'm not just talking about his work in ST either.

Plummer got sick one night and couldn't go on, so Shatner went on in his place. He said after seeing him play Henry V, Plummer was quoted as saying, "I knew then that the S.O.B. was going to be a 'star.'"

Shatner has been on TV / Movies since the early 50s. He has always had steady work his entire career. To say he is a terrible actor is utterly ridiculous.





I.........................don't................kno w..............how to respond........................Ya, he is a GREAT actor.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I will give you nostalgia, but it was not the be all end all of the ST universe. TNG is light years in front of it, IMO. I do enjoy the TOS movies except #1 and #5, but Shatner is a terrible actor.

TOS was light years ahead of it's time. It dealt with concepts that were not even in the main stream at the time. Looking back on it, sure, it's not a great series but your talking 40 years of effects and knowledge that we now have. Crappy Entertainment does not last this long and have the sustained following Star Trek has unless it was superior Entertainment in some way.

[CashMan]

TOS was light years ahead of it's time. It dealt with concepts that were not even in the main stream at the time. Looking back on it, sure, it's not a great series but your talking 40 years of effects and knowledge that we now have. Crappy Entertainment does not last this long and have the sustained following Star Trek has unless it was superior Entertainment in some way.


Thats what I was saying. It was not a great series.

[DallasEast]

It may be debatable, for whatever reason, that The Original Series was or was not a great series. However, it cannot be (sanely) debated whether it was a legendary one.

[Sam I Am]

I.........................don't................kno w..............how to respond........................Ya, he is a GREAT actor.

He has (2) Emmys (should that be ies? I would think so, but it just doesn't look right) and a Golden Globe award.

I suppose you have to seriously suck as an actor to get those. I mean they pass those out like cards in a Vegas casino. ;)

[CashMan]

He has (2) Emmys (should that be ies? I would think so, but it just doesn't look right) and a Golden Globe award.

I suppose you have to seriously suck as an actor to get those. I mean they pass those out like cards in a Vegas casino. ;)


I am not going to argue with a fanboy. Shatner is not a good actor period.

[Sam I Am]

When Star Trek came out, it was revolutionary. So much that many people didn't like it because it was so different from what they were used too. It dealt with topics nobody was willing to touch.

In it's time it was great. It was still good in the 70s and early 80s.

You guys are looking at the audio / video quality and damning it for being made in 1966. It's absolutely ignorant to compare TOS to TNG or DS9. That is like comparing Charlie Chaplin movies to Black Sheep Squadron or Hogan's Heros. You can't fairly do that.

Besides, TV show making of this type was still in it's infancy in the 1960s. It's like damning your parents for being ****ty people because they were born 20+ years before you were.

[Sam I Am]

I am not going to argue with a fanboy. Shatner is not a good actor period.

Fan boy? lol. I think you've already proved you know more about ST episodes than I do. I can name maybe 3-4 though all the series. Let me guess, the only Shanter work you've seen is Star Trek right? It has to be.

[CashMan]

Fan boy? lol. I think you've already proved you know more about ST episodes than I do. I can name maybe 3-4 though all the series. Let me guess, the only Shanter work you've seen is Star Trek right? It has to be.


What would you call someone who is arguing that a terrible actor is such a good one? Sorry, Shatner Fanboy.

[Sam I Am]

What would you call someone who is arguing that a terrible actor is such a good one? Sorry, Shatner Fanboy.

You didn't answer my question. Have you actually watched any of his work other than Star Trek? You are judging a guy on work made 50 years ago. The guy has career longevity (beyond just Star Trek) and awards that signify he is a great actor. (that aren't Star Trek related)

/youlose

[ScipioCowboy]

TOS is not only an excellent series, it was iconic and trend-setting. The greatness of an older series is not negated by the fact that it doesn't conform to modern production conventions. That's myopic thinking.

[CashMan]

You didn't answer my question. Have you actually watched any of his work other than Star Trek? You are judging a guy on work made 50 years ago. The guy has career longevity (beyond just Star Trek) and awards that signify he is a great actor. (that aren't Star Trek related)

/youlose


What are you referring to? Rescue 911, ya I watched that. All the direct to videos, no not them. Boston Legal, no. Tj Hooker, nope. What other masterpieces are you speaking of?

[CashMan]

TOS is not only an excellent series, it was iconic and trend-setting. The greatness of an older series is not negated by the fact that it doesn't conform to modern production conventions. That's myopic thinking.

Who said anything about it being old? I am not comparing production values.

[DallasEast]

Speaking of Emmys, Roddenberry and crew had some favorable critics of their work:

http://www.emmys.com/shows/star-trek

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thats what I was saying. It was not a great series.

I don't know about what you were saying prior to but I do believe that TOS was one of the truly great landmark series of all time.

[MonsterD]

I can say one day I was flippin around and saw a movie from the 50's or like 1960. So I thought the topic was funny about demons and then I saw William Shatner, so I watched it. It ended up being a foreign film noir(art film) set in Italy dealing with the occult. I was pretty shocked because not only was Shatner speaking Italian but he was doing a straightforward acting style, not his usual off timing word emphasis. The film itself was not that great, but his performance was pretty good, food for thought since I think he developed his off-kilter way of acting with Star Trek and just kept it in subsequent roles, at least to some degree.

[Aikmaniac]

I can say one day I was flippin around and saw a movie from the 50's or like 1960. So I thought the topic was funny about demons and then I saw William Shatner, so I watched it. It ended up being a foreign film noir(art film) set in Italy dealing with the occult. I was pretty shocked because not only was Shatner speaking Italian but he was doing a straightforward acting style, not his usual off timing word emphasis. The film itself was not that great, but his performance was pretty good, food for thought since I think he developed his off-kilter way of acting with Star Trek and just kept it in subsequent roles, at least to some degree.

He was great in the plane-alien episode of Twilight Zone.

[ScipioCowboy]

Who said anything about it being old? I am not comparing production values.

So, rather than being wrong for the wrong reasons, you're just wrong for the sake of being wrong. Got it! :D

[Sam I Am]

What are you referring to? Rescue 911, ya I watched that. All the direct to videos, no not them. Boston Legal, no. Tj Hooker, nope. What other masterpieces are you speaking of?

lol, Shatner hosted Rescue 911. He didn't act in it. (btw, I never watched a single episode of Rescue 911)

So, it's clear. The only thing you ever saw with him was Star Trek, yet you are declaring with athority that Shatner is a ****ty actor.

You fail because....

http://www.jeffreysomers.com/blather/star-trek-inspirational-poster.jpg

[Sam I Am]

Speaking of Emmys, Roddenberry and crew had some favorable critics of their work:

http://www.emmys.com/shows/star-trek

Well damn. Maybe I was wrong. TOS sucked! :lmao2: :lmao:

[CashMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAvRBDQqSmY

[CliffnMesquite]

Why? It was a new direction for an old Trek series, for a new generation. If you go and rewatch TOS, it really was not that good of a series, it was just the 1st of its kind.

Because it was blasphemy! He knew nothing of Star Trek and is an admitted Star Wars fan. I hope he is set upon by a horny Jem'Hadar!

[CashMan]

Because it was blasphemy! He knew nothing of Star Trek and is an admitted Star Wars fan. I hope he is set upon by a horny Jem'Hadar!


Ya, but didn't he bring in 3 Trek fans, including Damon Lindoff(sp?)?

[CliffnMesquite]

Ya, but didn't he bring in 3 Trek fans, including Damon Lindoff(sp?)?

It was an exciting film. But so was Die Hard. But neither was Star Trek.
If imbuilding a house. I'll bring in an general contractor. A architect, and a plumber. But the plan is mine.

[DallasEast]

Who would win in a battle between the Jem'Hadar and...

...Species 8472???

Even if Borg Nanoprobes were not in their weapons arsenal, I think that the Jem'Hadar would eventually win. They are reLENTless...

[CowboyMike]

It was an exciting film. But so was Die Hard. But neither was Star Trek.
If imbuilding a house. I'll bring in an general contractor. A architect, and a plumber. But the plan is mine.

The plan wasn't his. The movie was written by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, two HUGE Star Trek fans that have seen and read anything there is to do with Star Trek. They even cited three specific works that inspired their Star Trek script.

Out of the five producers, which they call "The Supreme Court" and do everything together, only one, Bryan Burk, is not a self-admitted Star Trek fan.

And Abrams watched Star Trek, he just said he wasn't that die hard of a fan. He had other sci-fi franchises that he liked better. But he has said than in his research for the film, he became a huge Trek fan because he now understood what it was all about.

It's the little things in the movie and little winks and nods that make me believe that it is in good hands by people that care about Trek.
Spock in school using the same type of computer he did in Star Trek IV
The musical stings of Alexander Courage's original theme.
The sound effects
When Spock gives Scotty his code for transwarp beaming, it was an obvious nod to Scotty giving away the formula for transparent aluminum in Star Trek IV.
There's a bottle of Saurian Brandy in the bar
Kirk's pack says NCC-1701-D
A tribble in Scotty's office
Admiral James Komack--who appeared in TOS-- is in the panel of admirals.
In the background of the Narada, the Vulcan lander from First Contact and the Romulan Bird of Prey from TOS can be seen, and that's something that Abrams himself included.
Abrams filmed Vulcan at Vasquez Rocks, famous for TOS being filmed there (I kind of equate this to Rob Ryan opening the season in the Flex Defense)
Spock talks about Kolinahr! How obscure is that?!
Spock tells his mother "fine is not acceptable", in Star Trek IV after not being able to answer the question "how do you feel?" early in the film, at the end Spock asked Sarek to tell Amanda "I feel fine"
During Kobayashi Maru simulator Kirk eats an apple, an homage to the Genesis cave scene in Star Trek II when Kirk at apple while telling story about how he beat the Kobayashi Maru
Majel Barrett Roddenberry does the computer voice!
The red shirt dies
Sulu and fencing
Spock’s line "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" is the same line Spock speaks in Star Trek VI
Kirk is stranded on Delta Vega, the same planet name from the second TOS pilot episode, "Where No Man has Gone Before"
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
Admiral Archer's beagle
Pike's uniform in the end is the same Admiral's uniform Kirk wore in TMPIt's sad that you can't find it in yourself to like this movie. If this move was made by people that didn't care about Star Trek, most or none of these things would not have been in there. And there are a bunch of things in there that could have only been done by Abrams. I implore you to try and have an open mind and like this movie. It saved the franchise. What else would you have rather had done? Another Nemesis? (Which was directed by Stuart Baird, who said he couldn't care a lick about Star Trek and hated it.) Anything else would have killed this franchise. Embrace the fact that Abrams was given the keys to the franchise. He's saved it and has maintained its spirit.

I highly recommend the documentary Trek Nation to any Star Trek fan. It's by Rod Roddenberry, Gene's son, and it is about Gene. It is fantastic. In it he interviews JJ Abrams while he was making the movie, and you realize that Abrams really is trying to do the franchise right.

I'll leave you with a quote from Gene himself.

"I'd like to be here when it [comes] back -- I'd like to see bright new talent do really exciting things... I feel that we’ve got such good people in Hollywood, and will in future as well, that I would be happy to have a Star Trek come on in 15 or 20 years where people say, 'Now that is good! That makes Roddenberry look like nothing!' And that would please me!"

[CliffnMesquite]

The plan wasn't his. The movie was written by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, two HUGE Star Trek fans that have seen and read anything there is to do with Star Trek. They even cited three specific works that inspired their Star Trek script.

Out of the five producers, which they call "The Supreme Court" and do everything together, only one, Bryan Burk, is not a self-admitted Star Trek fan.

And Abrams watched Star Trek, he just said he wasn't that die hard of a fan. He had other sci-fi franchises that he liked better. But he has said than in his research for the film, he became a huge Trek fan because he now understood what it was all about.

It's the little things in the movie and little winks and nods that make me believe that it is in good hands by people that care about Trek.
Spock in school using the same type of computer he did in Star Trek IV
The musical stings of Alexander Courage's original theme.
The sound effects
When Spock gives Scotty his code for transwarp beaming, it was an obvious nod to Scotty giving away the formula for transparent aluminum in Star Trek IV.
There's a bottle of Saurian Brandy in the bar
Kirk's pack says NCC-1701-D
A tribble in Scotty's office
Admiral James Komack--who appeared in TOS-- is in the panel of admirals.
In the background of the Narada, the Vulcan lander from First Contact and the Romulan Bird of Prey from TOS can be seen, and that's something that Abrams himself included.
Abrams filmed Vulcan at Vasquez Rocks, famous for TOS being filmed there (I kind of equate this to Rob Ryan opening the season in the Flex Defense)
Spock talks about Kolinahr! How obscure is that?!
Spock tells his mother "fine is not acceptable", in Star Trek IV after not being able to answer the question "how do you feel?" early in the film, at the end Spock asked Sarek to tell Amanda "I feel fine"
During Kobayashi Maru simulator Kirk eats an apple, an homage to the Genesis cave scene in Star Trek II when Kirk at apple while telling story about how he beat the Kobayashi Maru
Majel Barrett Roddenberry does the computer voice!
The red shirt dies
Sulu and fencing
Spock’s line "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" is the same line Spock speaks in Star Trek VI
Kirk is stranded on Delta Vega, the same planet name from the second TOS pilot episode, "Where No Man has Gone Before"
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
Admiral Archer's beagle
Pike's uniform in the end is the same Admiral's uniform Kirk wore in TMPIt's sad that you can't find it in yourself to like this movie. If this move was made by people that didn't care about Star Trek, most or none of these things would not have been in there. And there are a bunch of things in there that could have only been done by Abrams. I implore you to try and have an open mind and like this movie. It saved the franchise. What else would you have rather had done? Another Nemesis? (Which was directed by Stuart Baird, who said he couldn't care a lick about Star Trek and hated it.) Anything else would have killed this franchise. Embrace the fact that Abrams was given the keys to the franchise. He's saved it and has maintained its spirit.

I highly recommend the documentary Trek Nation to any Star Trek fan. It's by Rod Roddenberry, Gene's son, and it is about Gene. It is fantastic. In it he interviews JJ Abrams while he was making the movie, and you realize that Abrams really is trying to do the franchise right.

I'll leave you with a quote from Gene himself.

"I'd like to be here when it [comes] back -- I'd like to see bright new talent do really exciting things... I feel that we’ve got such good people in Hollywood, and will in future as well, that I would be happy to have a Star Trek come on in 15 or 20 years where people say, 'Now that is good! That makes Roddenberry look like nothing!' And that would please me!"
All probably true. And I hope it inspires a whole new Next Generation of fans, and spawns more movies and series for years to come. But it won't be Star Trek.

[CowboyMike]

All probably true. And I hope it inspires a whole new Next Generation of fans, and spawns more movies and series for years to come. But it won't be Star Trek.

And why do you think it is not Star Trek?

[CliffnMesquite]

And why do you think it is not Star Trek?

Last time I looked Vulcan was still there, and the Enterprise wasn't a bloated Albatross. The movie is an abomination. A spit in the face to Fifty years of Star Trek canon and history all wiped out by Two hours of fantastically entertaining
Trash. This is my opinion and it's not going to change.

[Sam I Am]

The plan wasn't his. The movie was written by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, two HUGE Star Trek fans that have seen and read anything there is to do with Star Trek. They even cited three specific works that inspired their Star Trek script.

Out of the five producers, which they call "The Supreme Court" and do everything together, only one, Bryan Burk, is not a self-admitted Star Trek fan.

And Abrams watched Star Trek, he just said he wasn't that die hard of a fan. He had other sci-fi franchises that he liked better. But he has said than in his research for the film, he became a huge Trek fan because he now understood what it was all about.

It's the little things in the movie and little winks and nods that make me believe that it is in good hands by people that care about Trek.
Spock in school using the same type of computer he did in Star Trek IV
The musical stings of Alexander Courage's original theme.
The sound effects
When Spock gives Scotty his code for transwarp beaming, it was an obvious nod to Scotty giving away the formula for transparent aluminum in Star Trek IV.
There's a bottle of Saurian Brandy in the bar
Kirk's pack says NCC-1701-D
A tribble in Scotty's office
Admiral James Komack--who appeared in TOS-- is in the panel of admirals.
In the background of the Narada, the Vulcan lander from First Contact and the Romulan Bird of Prey from TOS can be seen, and that's something that Abrams himself included.
Abrams filmed Vulcan at Vasquez Rocks, famous for TOS being filmed there (I kind of equate this to Rob Ryan opening the season in the Flex Defense)
Spock talks about Kolinahr! How obscure is that?!
Spock tells his mother "fine is not acceptable", in Star Trek IV after not being able to answer the question "how do you feel?" early in the film, at the end Spock asked Sarek to tell Amanda "I feel fine"
During Kobayashi Maru simulator Kirk eats an apple, an homage to the Genesis cave scene in Star Trek II when Kirk at apple while telling story about how he beat the Kobayashi Maru
Majel Barrett Roddenberry does the computer voice!
The red shirt dies
Sulu and fencing
Spock’s line "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" is the same line Spock speaks in Star Trek VI
Kirk is stranded on Delta Vega, the same planet name from the second TOS pilot episode, "Where No Man has Gone Before"
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
Admiral Archer's beagle
Pike's uniform in the end is the same Admiral's uniform Kirk wore in TMPIt's sad that you can't find it in yourself to like this movie. If this move was made by people that didn't care about Star Trek, most or none of these things would not have been in there. And there are a bunch of things in there that could have only been done by Abrams. I implore you to try and have an open mind and like this movie. It saved the franchise. What else would you have rather had done? Another Nemesis? (Which was directed by Stuart Baird, who said he couldn't care a lick about Star Trek and hated it.) Anything else would have killed this franchise. Embrace the fact that Abrams was given the keys to the franchise. He's saved it and has maintained its spirit.

I highly recommend the documentary Trek Nation to any Star Trek fan. It's by Rod Roddenberry, Gene's son, and it is about Gene. It is fantastic. In it he interviews JJ Abrams while he was making the movie, and you realize that Abrams really is trying to do the franchise right.

I'll leave you with a quote from Gene himself.

"I'd like to be here when it [comes] back -- I'd like to see bright new talent do really exciting things... I feel that we’ve got such good people in Hollywood, and will in future as well, that I would be happy to have a Star Trek come on in 15 or 20 years where people say, 'Now that is good! That makes Roddenberry look like nothing!' And that would please me!"

Nice post. :thumbup:

[CowboyMike]

Nice post. :thumbup:

Thanks, man. It's a shame Cliff won't change his mind, but oh well. I'm glad you liked it.

[Alumni2k11]

I've actually never seen any of them, but do plan on tackling the original series here soon and working my way from there. Only 700+ episodes and movies to go...

[DallasEast]

I've actually never seen any of them, but do plan on tackling the original series here soon and working my way from there. Only 700+ episodes and movies to go...
I envy you. :)

:D

[Tricericon]

Favorite version of ST?

Favorite characters?

Favorite episodes?

Anything else?

TOS

Kirk

Balance of Terror

Star Fleet Battles. Full stop.