The Dark Knight Rises **merged**

[StevenOtero]

Woooooooo!

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[StevenOtero]

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[zrinkill]

That round headed Batman has ruined the movie for me.

The cowl looked so much better.

http://www.travel-newyork.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ultimate-batman-begins-guide.jpg

[HTownCowboysFan]

Here's my set report teaser with the 4 new banners WB provided. >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_set-visit_preview_5-25-12.html

Loved seeing Heinz Field "blow up!" :laugh2:

[HTownCowboysFan]

Love 'em...

[CashMan]

Is the bat wing a hovering bat mobile?

[HTownCowboysFan]

Is the bat wing a hovering bat mobile?

Apparently, it's a separate vehicle. It's called "The Bat" in the film.

[HTownCowboysFan]

If you'd like to download the banners in full size, go here. >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_set-visit_large-character-banners_5-24-12.html

[StevenOtero]

Here's my set report teaser with the 4 new banners WB provided. >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_set-visit_preview_5-25-12.html

Loved seeing Heinz Field "blow up!" :laugh2:Awesome! Thanks again Jett!!

Your "Batman 5 News" website back in 1998 was probably one of the first websites I ever visited. I was 8 years old and have been following the site since.

Also: For those of you that need something to listen to and love comic book media in general...check out the Batman-On-Film Podcast and the Modern Myth Media Podcast

BOF Podcast: http://www.batman-on-film.com/podcasts_menu.html | http://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/the-batman-on-film-com-podcast/id416911662

MMM Podcast: http://www.modern-myth-media.com/search/label/MMM%20Podcast | http://mmmpodcast.libsyn.com/rss | http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/modern-myth-media-podcast/id426191666

[HTownCowboysFan]

Awesome! Thanks again Jett!!

Your "Batman 5 News" website back in 1998 was probably one of the first websites I ever visited. I was 8 years old and have been following the site since.

Also: For those of you that need something to listen to and love comic book media in general...check out the Batman-On-Film Podcast and the Modern Myth Media Podcast

BOF Podcast: http://www.batman-on-film.com/podcasts_menu.html | http://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/the-batman-on-film-com-podcast/id416911662

MMM Podcast: http://www.modern-myth-media.com/search/label/MMM%20Podcast | http://mmmpodcast.libsyn.com/rss | http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/modern-myth-media-podcast/id426191666

Cheers brother! Go Cowboys and Batman! :starspin

[kmp77]

That round headed Batman has ruined the movie for me.

The cowl looked so much better.

http://www.travel-newyork.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ultimate-batman-begins-guide.jpg

It looked just as dumb from a lot of angles....

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They have yet to make a perfect bat cowl :bang2:

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Cat woman is so hot.

[StevenOtero]

That round headed Batman has ruined the movie for me.

The cowl looked so much better.

It looked just as dumb from a lot of angles....

They have yet to make a perfect bat cowl :bang2:Really, *****ing about the cowl? C'mon man!

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Really, *****ing about the cowl? C'mon man!

Haters gonna hate!

This movie is gonna be epic, but sad since its the last night Batman movie,

[Lonestar94]

This looks cheesy. No Heath Ledger = No watch

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

This looks cheesy. No Heath Ledger = No watch

:facepalm:

[TheCount]

This looks cheesy. No Heath Ledger = No watch

Enjoy watching A Knight's Tale for the 1000th time, this movie is gonna be a goodun'.

[zrinkill]

Really, *****ing about the cowl? C'mon man!

Looks horrible ..... nothing like batman from the comics.

[StevenOtero]

This looks cheesy. No Heath Ledger = No watchhttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5044/5269558397_64406aeb94_z.jpg

[HTownCowboysFan]

Looks horrible ..... nothing like batman from the comics.

Not true. It's actually inspired by THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, NO MAN'S LAND, and KNIGHTFALL.

[zrinkill]

Not true. It's actually inspired by THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, NO MAN'S LAND, and KNIGHTFALL.


i was talking about the cowl.

[DallasEast]

:facepalm:
Cheesy was Ang Lee's Hulk film. Christopher Nolan does not do cheesy unless he orders extra for his pizza.

[Sam I Am]

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[the kid 05]

I want to buy them!

[StevenOtero]

i was talking about the cowl.I still don't understand how you don't see any similarities from the comic cowl.

[zrinkill]

I still don't understand how you don't see any similarities from the comic cowl.

The cowl in Batman Begins was very close ....... they changed it for no reason in the second movie.

Nolan was like ...... "he could not turn his head"

I was thinking how he has a guy dress up as a bat fighting a guy dressed up as a scarecrow and a clown, and he is worried about it being believable how his head moves?

[StevenOtero]

The cowl in Batman Begins was very close ....... they changed it for no reason in the second movie.

Nolan was like ...... "he could not turn his head"

I was thinking how he has a guy dress up as a bat fighting a guy dressed up as a scarecrow and a clown, and he is worried about it being believable how his head moves?I know what you're saying, I like the Begins suit better overall. Though I don't have problem with how this looks:

http://i.imgur.com/6C926.jpg

...and even if I did have a problem with the new suit, it wouldn't by any means ruin the movie for me.

I sure as hell won't miss this abortion:

http://i.imgur.com/a5LRb.jpg

[StevenOtero]

Another new banner:

http://i.imgur.com/o2KQK.jpg

[zrinkill]

I know what you're saying, I like the Begins suit better overall.

I have been reading the comic for 30 years and the Begins suit was the closest thing to the comics version on live action film (except for BATMAN: DEAD END, but that is a conversation for another thread)

The Begins suit was great.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/batmancomic.jpg


The round headed Cowl reminds me to much of he only other round headed Batman that shamed comic fans for decades.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/round-batman.jpg

Hopefully Nolan keeps the new suit in the shadows (in which it still looks good), more in this movie than the last ...... though there looks to be a daytime fight with Bane.

Overall I expect the movie to be very good ....... just the aesthetic of the Batman cowl bothers me (much like the Captain America suit in the Avengers)

[TheCount]

The crappy part about this is having to wait, who knows how long, for the next reboot. It took 5 years for Spiderman, dunno if I can wait another 5 for more Batman. Especially since i still have fantasies about a Justice League movie.

[StevenOtero]

The crappy part about this is having to wait, who knows how long, for the next reboot. It took 5 years for Spiderman, dunno if I can wait another 5 for more Batman. Especially since i still have fantasies about a Justice League movie.I believe we'll be getting Batman on the silver screen again quicker than you think. It makes sense for Warner Bros. to re-boot Batman (damn you to hell WB if it's another origin) sooner rather than later to get a Justice League or World's Finest movie going.

[zrinkill]

I believe we'll be getting Batman on the silver screen again quicker than you think. It makes sense for Warner Bros. to re-boot Batman (damn you to hell WB if it's another origin) sooner rather than later to get a Justice League or World's Finest movie going.

I agree.

DC has to be drooling over the thought of a Justice League movie after the Avengers success.

Though it may take a few years to establish all the characters if they want to do it right.

[HTownCowboysFan]

The cowl in Batman Begins was very close ....... they changed it for no reason in the second movie.

Nolan was like ...... "he could not turn his head"

I was thinking how he has a guy dress up as a bat fighting a guy dressed up as a scarecrow and a clown, and he is worried about it being believable how his head moves?

OK, the cowl, gotcha...

It's the same, except the cowl itself in TDK and RISES fits like a helmet. The neck is a completely separate piece. In BEGINS, the cowl and neck were one piece, not two. I like both, but prefer v. 2 better.

[StevenOtero]

Another one :)

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[Cowboys&LakersFan]

That's Bane? He's much bigger in the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.

[Afigueroa22]

That's Bane? He's much bigger in the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.

I was about to post about this. Doesn't look like a man who took that venom serum. I wonder if he'll be intelligent like in the comics.

[HTownCowboysFan]

I was about to post about this. Doesn't look like a man who took that venom serum. I wonder if he'll be intelligent like in the comics.

No venom for this version of Bane. He inhales some sort of pain-killing gas that keeps his severe pain down to a level that allows him to function. And yes, he's Batman's physical and intellectual equal.

[zrinkill]

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[StevenOtero]

That's Bane? He's much bigger in the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.Bane in the Arkham games is a complete and utter retard. A horrible depiction of the character.

[StevenOtero]

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[ChldsPlay]

It's nice.

But I have to ask, do we have to have a new thread every time there is a new poster or banner or trailer for this movie?

[StevenOtero]

It's nice.

But I have to ask, do we have to have a new thread every time there is a new poster or banner or trailer for this movie?We don't, I suppose one of the mods can merge them all into a The Dark Knight Rises Thread.

Would make more sense to me, especially since I'm the one creating the threads. :D

Sorry guys and gals!

:o:

Edit: Thank you to who merged it! :)

[HTownCowboysFan]

Part 1 of my RISES set visit will be posted tomorrow (Sunday, 5/27 at 11 PM CST) and will include my interviews with Emma Thomas (producer/Chris Nolan's wife), Christian Bale, Tom Hardy, and Anne Hathaway. It was cool set visit -- and unique -- as it took place at Heinz Field.

[theogt]

The crappy part about this is having to wait, who knows how long, for the next reboot. It took 5 years for Spiderman, dunno if I can wait another 5 for more Batman. Especially since i still have fantasies about a Justice League movie.Speaking of, here's the leaked 6 minute preview of the new Spider-Man.

http://vimeo.com/42875766

I'll go see it, but it doesn't look all that great.

[StevenOtero]

Part 1 of my RISES set visit will be posted tomorrow (Sunday, 5/27 at 11 PM CST) and will include my interviews with Emma Thomas (producer/Chris Nolan's wife), Christian Bale, Tom Hardy, and Anne Hathaway. It was cool set visit -- and unique -- as it took place at Heinz Field.Sweet! Looking forward to it.

[StevenOtero]

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[theogt]

I'm still not really liking Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.

[StevenOtero]

I'm still not really liking Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.You still haven't seen the movie. :)

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I'm still not really liking Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.

What? She's fine as hell. Makes a great Catwoman. If I was Batman I'd hit that.

[Hoofbite]

That's Bane? He's much bigger in the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.

He's also a cartoon.

[Hoofbite]

The cowl in Batman Begins was very close ....... they changed it for no reason in the second movie.

Nolan was like ...... "he could not turn his head"

I was thinking how he has a guy dress up as a bat fighting a guy dressed up as a scarecrow and a clown, and he is worried about it being believable how his head moves?

I think the rounded looks weird at first glance but probably won't care when the movie is rolling.

As far as turning his head, I think that has to do more with cinematography than any sort of believability factor.

Body movements are key and if you if can't adequately turn your head you have to rotate your entire torso and it just looks weird.

I actually noticed this the other day when I saw the ending of Batman Forever on TBS or something.

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Around 0:50 is where you should start. Look how awkward the movement for his thumbs up is. He has to come out of the seat just to look in that direction.

It definitely looks a little less Batman-esque but I think it will allow for more fluid movements and make the film look better from a production standpoint.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

He's also a cartoon.

Yeah I know that it's just kinda wierd how different they look. In the cartoons Bane broke Batman's spine I wonder if that happens in this movie.

[StevenOtero]

Yeah I know that it's just kinda wierd how different they look. In the cartoons Bane broke Batman's spine I wonder if that happens in this movie.You mean in the comics. Go read Knightfall....

[StevenOtero]

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"You're not Batman anymore"

[StevenOtero]

BOF's "RISES" Set Visit, Part 1. >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_set-visit_Part-1_main_5-27-12.html

https://twitter.com/BATMANONFILM/status/206958561773887489

[mldardy]

dcj44d3noBk

"You're not Batman anymore"
I wish someone had gotten TV spot #3. It aired during the NASCAR race but no one got it because it caught everyone off guard.

[StevenOtero]

I wish someone had gotten TV spot #3. It aired during the NASCAR race but no one got it because it caught everyone off guard.Here ya go:
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[StevenOtero]

Here ya go:
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[mldardy]

Thanks:)

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Game of the year Edition of Arkham City comes out tommorow. You can pay with Robin and it features two more hours if gameplay can't wait!

[HTownCowboysFan]

According to David Goyer, Warner Bros. was pushing Nolan to use The Riddler as the villain of BATMAN 3 and wanted Leo DiCaprio to play him! >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_news_WB-wanted-The-Riddler-B3_6-1-12.html

Not a horrible idea, but I'm glad Nolan had enough clout to tell WB to go jump in the lake and that he'll make the film he wants to make!

BTW, I'm seeing RISES in about 3 weeks and I am STOKED! :starspin

[StevenOtero]

According to David Goyer, Warner Bros. was pushing Nolan to use The Riddler as the villain of BATMAN 3 and wanted Leo DiCaprio to play him! >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_news_WB-wanted-The-Riddler-B3_6-1-12.html

Not a horrible idea, but I'm glad Nolan had enough clout to tell WB to go jump in the lake and that he'll make the film he wants to make!

BTW, I'm seeing RISES in about 3 weeks and I am STOKED! :starspin
I'm sure glad Nolan was able to make the film he wanted instead of being directed by WB.

Great stuff on the last BOF Podcast! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh you suck man :D :D :D

[StevenOtero]

The Dark Knight Trilogy Tickets Booked!

The Wife and I will be seeing Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises starting at 1815 MT on July 19th!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D

[HTownCowboysFan]

Y'all got your tix yet? It seems as if sales are setting records and shutting down servers! :laugh2:

"A Fire Will Rise!"

Now only if my beloved Dallas Cowboys can win the Super Bowl this year -- 2012 would then be complete! :starspin

[StevenOtero]

Oh my!

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[TheDallasDon]

Got tickets to the IMAX.
It will be my first IMAX movie, Batman is worth the drive.

I'm gitty like a little school girl, cant wait.

[StevenOtero]

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"Mr. Wayne"

!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Aikmaniac]

Now that is a trailer. Looks incredible.

Lots of hype for this one. I hope it delivers.

[a_minimalist]

The Dark Knight Trilogy Tickets Booked!

The Wife and I will be seeing Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises starting at 1815 MT on July 19th!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D

I'm glad I saw this. That's something I definitely want to do!

[a_minimalist]

I know everyone has a hard on for heath ledgers performance and rightly so. it was absolutely an incredible performance. but, tom hardy's performance appears to be something very special as well. the dude is a really good actor and i think this proves it.

if you haven't seen the movie 'warrior' check it out.

[StevenOtero]

I know everyone has a hard on for heath ledgers performance and rightly so. it was absolutely an incredible performance. but, tom hardy's performance appears to be something very special as well. the dude is a really good actor and i think this proves it.

if you haven't seen the movie 'warrior' check it out.Yep, Hardy is going to make you hate him in the movie.

[a_minimalist]

Yep, Hardy is going to make you hate him in the movie.

Good, I'll be looking forward to it lol I want to see this movie so bad partly because of him. It looks like he did a very very good job with this. I'm really excited to see his performance.

[Teren_Kanan]

After Batman Dark Knight, this movie will get my money.

I hated Batman Begins though, thought it was awful.

So my expectations are mixed. Joker was one of the biggest reasons Dark Knight was so good, it's going to be hard to match.

[jnday]

I know everyone has a hard on for heath ledgers performance and rightly so. it was absolutely an incredible performance. but, tom hardy's performance appears to be something very special as well. the dude is a really good actor and i think this proves it.

if you haven't seen the movie 'warrior' check it out.

I know very little about Tom Hardy. Actually the little I know came from this board. He will have to really be good to compare with Ledger. Ledger stole the show from Bale with his take of the Joker. Ledger's performance was one of the all time best IMO. He took the Joker to a new level. I don't know what to expect from Hathaway, but she has been good in all the movies that I have seen of hers.

[a_minimalist]

I know very little about Tom Hardy. Actually the little I know came from this board. He will have to really be good to compare with Ledger. Ledger stole the show from Bale with his take of the Joker. Ledger's performance was one of the all time best IMO. He took the Joker to a new level. I don't know what to expect from Hathaway, but she has been good in all the movies that I have seen of hers.

Watch 'Warrior' it's about mma fighting. It's based on a true story about 2 brothers, one a teacher and one has come back from the war and enter a tourney.

He was also in Bronson which was a pretty good/cool movie. If you consider yourself a movie buff both are worth watching.

[jnday]

Watch 'Warrior' it's about mma fighting. It's based on a true story about 2 brothers, one a teacher and one has come back from the war and enter a tourney.

He was also in Bronson which was a pretty good/cool movie. If you consider yourself a movie buff both are worth watching.

Thanks. I watch tons of movies, but for some reason I have never watched one with him in it.

[a_minimalist]

Thanks. I watch tons of movies, but for some reason I have never watched one with him in it.

No problem man. Warrior was a flick that flew under the radar. Bronson on the other hand is more of an obscure/artsy/stylized film. I think you might have to be a fan of film in general to enjoy that movie. It's not a blockbuster or movie that gives you chills at the end. It's just a good flick and worth the 2 hrs for the performance. Actually, look up Charles Bronson, I think that's his name. He was the most violent prisoner in England(I think it was England) back in the 60 or 70's. Its a cool movie though, like I said.

[StevenOtero]

After Batman Dark Knight, this movie will get my money.

I hated Batman Begins though, thought it was awful.

So my expectations are mixed. Joker was one of the biggest reasons Dark Knight was so good, it's going to be hard to match.:banghead: ugh..

To each their own....

[HTownCowboysFan]

:banghead: ugh..

To each their own....

I love BATMAN BEGINS!

I see RISES in two weeks...can't wait! War movie/Disaster film/Superhero movie. Tremendously anxious to see how Nolan ends his Bat-Trilogy.

[a_minimalist]

I love BATMAN BEGINS!

I see RISES in two weeks...can't wait! War movie/Disaster film/Superhero movie. Tremendously anxious to see how Nolan ends his Bat-Trilogy.

we should take a vote on how many think batman dies. i've heard that being thrown around.

[StevenOtero]

I love BATMAN BEGINS!

I see RISES in two weeks...can't wait! War movie/Disaster film/Superhero movie. Tremendously anxious to see how Nolan ends his Bat-Trilogy.Honestly, I love Batman Begins just a tiny nat's hair more than The Dark Knight.

Rises is going to be the end to a perfect trilogy. :D

[StevenOtero]

Thanks. I watch tons of movies, but for some reason I have never watched one with him in it.Haven't you seen Inception?

[a_minimalist]

Haven't you seen Inception?

I forgot about that. Not a major role but good call!

[StevenOtero]

I forgot about that. Not a major role but good call!Not a huge role, but still directed by Chris Nolan.

[theogt]

Tom Hardy is absolutely fantastic in everything he's done. Warrior, Tinkor Tailor, Inception, Layer Cake, Bronson, RocknRolla. Basically, if Tom Hardy is in the movie, you can almost guarantee it's worth watching. Maybe not even because of his performance, but he's also great at picking only good movies to be in.

[a_minimalist]

Not a huge role, but still directed by Chris Nolan.

Another very good point!!! :laugh2:

[a_minimalist]

Tom Hardy is absolutely fantastic in everything he's done. Warrior, Tinkor Tailor, Inception, Layer Cake, Bronson, RocknRolla. Basically, if Tom Hardy is in the movie, you can almost guarantee it's worth watching. Maybe not even because of his performance, but he's also great at picking only good movies to be in.

Well said, all of those were great movies.

[the kid 05]

I want to know who Gordon's character is. Part of me thinks Azrael or Night Wing. Gah i can't wait!!

[StevenOtero]

I want to know who Gordon's character is. Part of me thinks Azrael or Night Wing. Gah i can't wait!!You mean Joseph Gordon Levitt's character John Blake? Yeah, he isn't who he seems to be.

[the kid 05]

You mean Joseph Gordon Levitt's character John Blake? Yeah, he isn't who he seems to be.

yes I always forget his name, but Blake is a character Nolan made up and seems to have a nice role in the movie so hes gotttttttta be something more then a gcp beat cop

[HTownCowboysFan]

The subways in NYC...

http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_NYC-subway-stations-RISE_6-23-12.html

Marketing in FULL blast mode, no doubt.

[StevenOtero]

Enjoy
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[StevenOtero]

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[Aikmaniac]

Wow...did his "batman voice" get worse? lol

Can't wait to see it.

[HTownCowboysFan]

I *might* be seeing it in 4 days...

[the kid 05]

I *might* be seeing it in 4 days...

i *might* hate you in 4 days

[StevenOtero]

I *might* be seeing it in 4 days...:( :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[theogt]

Wow...did his "batman voice" get worse? lol

Can't wait to see it.Yes, it sounds like it. I *HHHHHHHHHHHATTTTTEEE* the "Batman voice". It's the worst part of the entire series and is hilariously stupid.

[StevenOtero]

Yes, it sounds like it. I *HHHHHHHHHHHATTTTTEEE* the "Batman voice". It's the worst part of the entire series and is hilariously stupid.His Bat voice in Batman Begins is just fine, in The Dark Knight he really over does it in some parts. I've since let it go though lol...

[theogt]

His Bat voice in Batman Begins is just fine, in The Dark Knight he really over does it in some parts. I've since let it go though lol...I particularly like the part in TDK where he rescues Rachel when she's falling (not quite sure how he rescues her there other than just falling with her) and he uses the voice to talk to her and no one else is around -- despite the fact that she knows he's BW.

[StevenOtero]

I particularly like the part in TDK where he rescues Rachel when she's falling (not quite sure how he rescues her there other than just falling with her) and he uses the voice to talk to her and no one else is around -- despite the fact that she knows he's BW.Or when he's at Wayne Enterprises talking to Lucius in his Bat voice.

:lmao:

Either way, I still love those movies. :D

[HTownCowboysFan]

Or when he's at Wayne Enterprises talking to Lucius in his Bat voice.

:lmao:

Either way, I still love those movies. :D

This should have been explained in BATMAN BEGINS, but it was cut out for some reason. His voice is distorted and amplified via the cowl. That's why he still sounds like Batman even when talking to people who knows he's Batman. (For the film, Bale's voice is digitally altered to make it sound, well, distorted and amplified as it's supposed to be as "Batman.")

[StevenOtero]

This should have been explained in BATMAN BEGINS, but it was cut out for some reason. His voice is distorted and amplified via the cowl. That's why he still sounds like Batman even when talking to people who knows he's Batman. (For the film, Bale's voice is digitally altered to make it sound, well, distorted and amplified as it's supposed to be as "Batman.")Cool, never knew that. Makes more sense now

[StevenOtero]

New IMAX Poster:

http://i.imgur.com/uuAOW.jpg

[StevenOtero]

"Just finished the screening of Dark Knight Rises...so much awesome...can't wait to see it again. And again."

https://twitter.com/TomMcAuliffe/status/221288483812159489

[StevenOtero]

New IMAX TV Spot!

http://movies.yahoo.com/video/ymovies-6393699/dark-knight-rises-imax-tv-spot-29903924.html

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[HTownCowboysFan]

RISE...

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i477/batmanonfilmdotcom/jettwithrisesposter2.jpg

[the kid 05]

Anyone have any theories as to why Bruce is being hung by rope in that imax trailer?

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[TheCount]

Anyone have any theories as to why Bruce is being hung by rope in that imax trailer?

edit: at 0:20

Doesn't look like it's around his neck, so maybe he's just tied up watching something happen to someone he cares about.

We already know Batman's going to get close to broken as he can get in this one.

I'm very excited. Bought my IMAX tickets (the real IMAX) about a month ago. There's only one real IMAX theater in NYC.

[the kid 05]

Doesn't look like it's around his neck, so maybe he's just tied up watching something happen to someone he cares about.

We already know Batman's going to get close to broken as he can get in this one.

I'm very excited. Bought my IMAX tickets (the real IMAX) about a month ago. There's only one real IMAX theater in NYC.

Thinking it has to do with the scene where bruce asks bane why he didn't just kill him.

I'm not gonna see it in Imax until during the week when the parents can't take the kids to it

[HTownCowboysFan]

Went to Mr. Nolan's "Cement Ceremony" today at Grauman's. Here's the preview...

http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_Cemented-Nolan-preview_7-7-12.html

Interviewed Chris and Michael Caine. Got video of the who thing as well.

[tiny tim]

I purchased my ticket for 'The Dark Knight Marathon' that is on the 19th and 20th (It starts on the 19th and ends on the 20th.). It's for all 3 of the Batman movies. Batman Begins starts at 6:15 pm,The Dark Knight starts at 9:00 pm and The Dark Knight Rises starts at 12:01 am.

[StevenOtero]

Went to Mr. Nolan's "Cement Ceremony" today at Grauman's. Here's the preview...

http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_Cemented-Nolan-preview_7-7-12.html

Interviewed Chris and Michael Caine. Got video of the who thing as well.Too coooooooooooooooool!

[KoRnyBrad]

As a HUGE Batman fan I'm stoked. Already bought my tix so I can see it opening day before I have to work that night.

[HTownCowboysFan]

All I can say is that it is BEYOND BRILLIANT.

[StevenOtero]

All I can say is that it is BEYOND BRILLIANT.I've read reports of critics giving it a standing ovation? Any truth to that?

CAN'T WAIT! ...but enjoying the ride :D

[theogt]

http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2012/7/7/early-word-on-the-dark-knight-rises-is-out-its-good.html

Standing ovation from critics. Lots of high praise in there, particularly that it's better than TDK and is Oscar-worthy.


*POTENTIAL SPOILER*

I also read that some of the critics were crying at the ending? Could be just that it was a good movie or ... something else.

[theogt]

All I can say is that it is BEYOND BRILLIANT.I wonder if that was a hint at something.....

[StevenOtero]

I wonder if that was a hint at something.....John Blake = Batman Beyond?

[StevenOtero]

Trailer for the official documentary The Dark Knight Reborn

Something tells me you've already seen this doc Jett! :D

Auql1MUlb2w

[KoRnyBrad]

It's nice to see I'm not the only Cowboys/Batman fan out there! :D

Anybody seen the Tumbler and Batpod on tour? Caught them in Overland Park KS back in May. Pretty neat seeing them up close!

[HTownCowboysFan]

I wonder if that was a hint at something.....

Nope. Don't read anything into it.

[HTownCowboysFan]

http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2012/7/7/early-word-on-the-dark-knight-rises-is-out-its-good.html

Standing ovation from critics. Lots of high praise in there, particularly that it's better than TDK and is Oscar-worthy.


*POTENTIAL SPOILER*

I also read that some of the critics were crying at the ending? Could be just that it was a good movie or ... something else.

Yes, this correct. It'll def give you a lump in your throat.

[HTownCowboysFan]

FYI...

DO NOT spoil yourself before seeing this film. If you do, it'll ruin the experience for you. Trust me. Frankly, I'd go dark from now 'til you see it and not seek out any news on this film. There are already MAJOR spoilers on the Net including how it ends.

[StevenOtero]

Next week y'all!

Enjoy the ride, do not spoil this for yourself.

[HTownCowboysFan]

Next week y'all!

Enjoy the ride, do not spoil this for yourself.

Cheers bro. There will be no spoilers on my site, but as I said, some are already online via sites without any sort of integrity.

It's a GREAT film...great film.

[Aikmaniac]

Cheers bro. There will be no spoilers on my site, but as I said, some are already online via sites without any sort of integrity.

It's a GREAT film...great film.

So it definitely is on par with Dark Knight? It has to be difficult to match that intensity.

[StevenOtero]

So it definitely is on par with Dark Knight? It has to be difficult to match that intensity.I'm willing to bet in a lot of ways it exceeds The Dark Knight. You also have to view it from the standpoint of all 3 films being one complete story.

[theogt]

FYI...

DO NOT spoil yourself before seeing this film. If you do, it'll ruin the experience for you. Trust me. Frankly, I'd go dark from now 'til you see it and not seek out any news on this film. There are already MAJOR spoilers on the Net including how it ends.Yeah, I just made the decision to avoid all news/discussion for the next 11 days.

[KoRnyBrad]

I definitely don't want it ruined.

[HTownCowboysFan]

So it definitely is on par with Dark Knight? It has to be difficult to match that intensity.

Nolan has topped TDK with this one. Totally.

[StevenOtero]

As part of our countdown to the release of The Dark Knight Rises, we have a very special treat for you today. Below you can listen to the film's Hans Zimmer soundtrack in its entirety, giving you a taste of the atmosphere and action you're in for come July 20. And before you ask, we've closely parsed the track titles and none of them reads "Death Of Qui-Gon" so we're pretty sure that this is free of overt spoilers.

Source/Listen Here (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34498)

[StevenOtero]

New trailer with new footage:

http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/movies/The-Dark-Knight-Rises/216393/2250462197/Preview:-The-Dark-Knight-Rises:-Journey/videos#

I'll post a YouTube version as soon as I find it.

[StevenOtero]

This isn't the same as the above post.

New TV Spot:

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[HTownCowboysFan]

This past Sunday with C-Nol...

http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_press-conf_CNolan_7-10-12.html

[The Ominous]

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/07/TDKR-IMAX-bane-poster-610x915.jpg (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/07/TDKR-IMAX-bane-poster-610x915.jpg)

[HTownCowboysFan]

Bale >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_press-conf_CBale_7-11-12.html

[StevenOtero]

Bale >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_press-conf_CBale_7-11-12.htmlSweet, thanks Jett.

I'm not going on the net for news until it comes out. I'll just stick to your site! That last TV spot spoiled some cool moments for me.

[a_minimalist]

Catwoman - "you've given them everything."

Batman - "not everything, not yet."


Hmmmmmmmm, can't wait.

[HTownCowboysFan]

Sir Michael Caine >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_press-conf_MCaine_7-11-12.html

[StevenOtero]

bdb2w1Yu97E

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/batman-darkknightrises-pee-wee-herman-uproxx.jpg

[HTownCowboysFan]

Anne Hathaway >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_press-conf_AHathaway_7-12-12.html

[StevenOtero]

Anne Hathaway >>> http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_press-conf_AHathaway_7-12-12.htmlGreat review Jett!

http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_review_byJett_7-16-12.html

Did your advanced/press screening get to see the Man of Steel teaser?

[HTownCowboysFan]

Great review Jett!

http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDKRises_review_byJett_7-16-12.html

Did your advanced/press screening get to see the Man of Steel teaser?

No. Just the movie. I'm in NYC as we speak for the premiere tonight! :starspin

[HTownCowboysFan]

However StevenOtero, several of my friends saw it at SDCC and were quite impressed.

[StevenOtero]

No. Just the movie. I'm in NYC as we speak for the premiere tonight! :starspinAwesome, I see that the AP is going to have a live stream of the premiere: http://new.livestream.com/aplive/darkknightrises

However StevenOtero, several of my friends saw it at SDCC and were quite impressed.Very cool, can't wait!

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Just 4 more days!

[Lodeus]

Reviews looking good.

I guess Eric Snider wrote a review(without even seeing the movie yet) saying it was more disappointing than Batman and Robin just to get people all riled up.

[a_minimalist]

i'm so pumped i downloaded both movies and bought the first video game.

on another note. i literally can't read anything about the movie anymore. there have been so many loose lips hinting at the ending. ones i didn't even believe.

[StevenOtero]

World Premiere coverage streaming live right now!!!

On the Black Carpet!!!

http://new.livestream.com/aplive/darkknightrises

[a_minimalist]

World Premiere coverage streaming live right now!!!

On the Black Carpet!!!

http://new.livestream.com/aplive/darkknightrises

Keen eye! I didn't even realize it was black. :banghead:

[StevenOtero]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m77oreq4HS1qexqmio2_r2_500.gif

[a_minimalist]

that girl interviewing bale is a twit.

[StevenOtero]

that girl interviewing bale is a twit.Both of em are some duds.

Morgan Freeman is so cool :D

[a_minimalist]

Both of em are some duds.

Morgan Freeman is so cool :D

Yep, and his joke totally went over both of their heads.

[StevenOtero]

Yep, and his joke totally went over both of their heads.http://img.new.livestream.com/events/00000000000edcb2/3c0bb471-ff14-4cee-81b0-5ff8fb85b4d5_640x427.jpg

Pictured here :lmao:

[StevenOtero]

Interviewer: "Chances for a best picture?"

Morgan Freeman: "It's hard to say, but I'd like to say they're great."

[StevenOtero]

Bale Interview: http://new.livestream.com/aplive/darkknightrises/videos/1995566

[a_minimalist]

http://img.new.livestream.com/events/00000000000edcb2/3c0bb471-ff14-4cee-81b0-5ff8fb85b4d5_640x427.jpg

Pictured here :lmao:

lol you can almost see it floating over

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Midnight premiere tonight. :)

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Best movie of the year so far. 10/10.

[tiny tim]

I just got back from the 'The Dark Knight Trilogy'. It was nice to see all 3 movies in the theater at the same time. I have the first 2 films on Blu-ray and will be getting the new film on Blu-ray when it comes out.

[cowboyeric8]

Excellent movie. Everything was very well done. 10/10. My only complaint would be there almost wasn't enough Batman. Also it may have just been my theatre but at times Bane was hard to understand. I want to see it again to catch everything.

[StevenOtero]

Bane wasn't hard to understand at all in my theater. They obviously fixed his sound mix in post.

[StevenOtero]

‘Dark Knight Rises’ Now $68.4M Worldwide: $28M Midnights Shatter ‘Avengers’ Record: $30M Pre-Sales; International $10.4M So Far; But How Will Tragedy Of Colorado Mass Shooting Affect Today’s Batman Opening?

The Dark Knight Rises is “headed north of $28M” for its 3,700 midnight showings of the pic.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/dark-knight-rises-banks-25m-pre-sales-and-85-ticket-sales-more-b-o-records-scalpers-brinks-trucks-than-avengers/

[cowboyeric8]

Bane wasn't hard to understand at all in my theater. They obviously fixed his sound mix in post.

Good. I assumed it wasn't bad everywhere.

[StevenOtero]

Good. I assumed it wasn't bad everywhere.There was one maybe two parts where he was talking fast and I missed a word or two, didn't miss out or take away from what he said.

[GloryDaysRBack]

This movie was alright. Definitely not amazing. Nowhere NEAR the class of dark knight.

DK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DKR

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

This movie was alright. Definitely not amazing. Nowhere NEAR the class of dark knight.

DK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DKR

LOL no.

This movie was better. Both were great though.

[cowboyeric8]

There was one maybe two parts where he was talking fast and I missed a word or two, didn't miss out or take away from what he said.

Oh I agree. Not saying it as a detriment to the movie. I always got the jist of what he said. I just need to watch it again to catch everything.

[stasheroo]

‘Dark Knight Rises’ Now $68.4M Worldwide: $28M Midnights Shatter ‘Avengers’ Record: $30M Pre-Sales; International $10.4M So Far; But How Will Tragedy Of Colorado Mass Shooting Affect Today’s Batman Opening?

The Dark Knight Rises is “headed north of $28M” for its 3,700 midnight showings of the pic.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/dark-knight-rises-banks-25m-pre-sales-and-85-ticket-sales-more-b-o-records-scalpers-brinks-trucks-than-avengers/

This was a good film, but I don't think Avengers is in danger of being eclipsed.

[Aikmaniac]

Oh boy...all these mixed reviews have me worried.

[stasheroo]

Oh boy...all these mixed reviews have me worried.

Where are you seeing mixed reviews?

[cowboyeric8]

This was a good film, but I don't think Avengers is in danger of being eclipsed.

Way better than Avengers even if the money doesn't say so.

[stasheroo]

Way better than Avengers even if the money doesn't say so.

Glad you think so.

[StevenOtero]

Way better than Avengers even if the money doesn't say so.Without a doubt. The popcorn fluff fans won't agree...but more power to em. I'm glad we have both to be honest.

[stasheroo]

Without a doubt. The popcorn fluff fans won't agree...but more power to em. I'm glad we have both to be honest.

Great comment, I completely agree.

:clap2:

[Aikmaniac]

Where are you seeing mixed reviews?

In this thread and other review sites I've visited.

[StevenOtero]

In this thread and other review sites I've visited.You're never going to have everyone agree, hell a lot of people get off on being contrarian to everything.

[stasheroo]

In this thread and other review sites I've visited.

I think it's pretty simple to sum up. If you enjoyed the first two films, you will enjoy this one.

[cowboyeric8]

Without a doubt. The popcorn fluff fans won't agree...but more power to em. I'm glad we have both to be honest.

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Avengers. But in a turn my mind off enjoy the movie kind of way.

All three of the new Batmans have been just all around great movies. Symbolism, heart ache, action, romance, realism (as "real" as a comic book movie could get, not saying that this stuff could actually happen).

[StevenOtero]

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Avengers. But in a turn my mind off enjoy the movie kind of way.

All three of the new Batmans have been just all around great movies. Symbolism, heart ache, action, romance, realism (as "real" as a comic book movie could get, not saying that this stuff could actually happen).Exactly, and most people will never admit that.

[casmith07]

I'll see it when it comes to Bluray. I hate movie theaters.

I'm also not that hyped about Batman.

[Tio]

Good film, by no means earthshattering.
TDK was better, the villian was better and it touched more on human morality and behavior.

[a_minimalist]

I'll see it when it comes to Bluray. I hate movie theaters.

I'm also not that hyped about Batman.

Me too, can't stand them. I'm def going to see it though. If only they'd start making an option to rent them on demand through your cable box.

[ChldsPlay]

Me too, can't stand them. I'm def going to see it though. If only they'd start making an option to rent them on demand through your cable box.

This has already happened with quite a few movies, but they are usually smaller independent films.

[StevenOtero]

WB has issued a statement directly from Christopher Nolan about the terrible Theater Shooting that happened earlier today.

Speaking on behalf of the cast and crew of “The Dark Knight Rises”, I would like to express our profound sorrow at the senseless tragedy that has befallen the entire Aurora community. I would not presume to know anything about the victims of the shooting but that they were there last night to watch a movie. I believe movies are one of the great American art forms and the shared experience of watching a story unfold on screen is an important and joyful pastime. The movie theatre is my home, and the idea that someone would violate that innocent and hopeful place in such an unbearably savage way is devastating to me. Nothing any of us can say could ever adequately express our feelings for the innocent victims of this appalling crime, but our thoughts are with them and their families. – Christopher Nolan

[Rogah]

I saw The Dark Knight Rises last night. I loved the part when Bane said to Batman "SLGH SIHGTOSH VHSLO AOAOSAHF S GFLHL" and then Batman replied "Hsdghsdh sh shjosdtei mnvnv shgiesd rghd bjhdhjg" so Bane said "RLSJHGLKJH GH SERLODGH SOSOG A AGVBPB" and then that other guy came in and said "Hgd;oh sdghdshg dhd hsd sdr h d h dtj dj j d rtdpisjhgpihj".

What drama!

[StevenOtero]

I saw The Dark Knight Rises last night. I loved the part when Bane said to Batman "SLGH SIHGTOSH VHSLO AOAOSAHF S GFLHL" and then Batman replied "Hsdghsdh sh shjosdtei mnvnv shgiesd rghd bjhdhjg" so Bane said "RLSJHGLKJH GH SERLODGH SOSOG A AGVBPB" and then that other guy came in and said "Hgd;oh sdghdshg dhd hsd sdr h d h dtj dj j d rtdpisjhgpihj".

What drama!http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-_dStEZJLa4/TQq1iflQzHI/AAAAAAAAAPE/D45yVu7kE5w/s1600/trololo-lolo-trololo.jpg

[Rogah]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-_dStEZJLa4/TQq1iflQzHI/AAAAAAAAAPE/D45yVu7kE5w/s1600/trololo-lolo-trololo.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-_dStEZJLa4/TQq1iflQzHI/AAAAAAAAAPE/D45yVu7kE5w/s1600/trololo-lolo-trololo.jpg)You may not like what I said or the way I said it, but it's a legitimate complaint of the movie and I'm certainly not the only one who thought the sound mixing was atrocious.

I like Christopher Nolan. I really do. In fact, I like him so much that I'm willing to ignore the fact that every single one of his movies has the identical soundtrack as the one before. As far as DKR is concerned, what little of it I could actually understand seemed like a decent movie. But I've seen 5 movies this summer, and DKR comes in at 3rd on that list.

[ScipioCowboy]

I saw The Dark Knight Rises last night. I loved the part when Bane said to Batman "SLGH SIHGTOSH VHSLO AOAOSAHF S GFLHL" and then Batman replied "Hsdghsdh sh shjosdtei mnvnv shgiesd rghd bjhdhjg" so Bane said "RLSJHGLKJH GH SERLODGH SOSOG A AGVBPB" and then that other guy came in and said "Hgd;oh sdghdshg dhd hsd sdr h d h dtj dj j d rtdpisjhgpihj".

What drama!
:lmao2:

I haven't even seen the movie yet, and this is one of the funniest comments I've read on this forum to date.

Growing up, I was a huge Star Trek fan, but there are few things I like more than Trek humor, especially related to Shatner's acting prowess.

[ScipioCowboy]

I'll see it when it comes to Bluray. I hate movie theaters.

I'm also not that hyped about Batman.

This encapsulates my feelings about superhero and comic book movies in general. I have numerous friends who absolutely adore them, and my wife loves the the Batman movies.

I respect it, but I've never grasped the appeal.

[StevenOtero]

You may not like what I said or the way I said it, but it's a legitimate complaint of the movie and I'm certainly not the only one who thought the sound mixing was atrocious.

I like Christopher Nolan. I really do. In fact, I like him so much that I'm willing to ignore the fact that every single one of his movies has the identical soundtrack as the one before. As far as DKR is concerned, what little of it I could actually understand seemed like a decent movie. But I've seen 5 movies this summer, and DKR comes in at 3rd on that list.I could understand it just fine, my theater has their sound setup correctly. A lot don't, so you'll get a mix going through the wrong speakers.

I remember watching the bootleg version of TDKR prologue and having a hard time understanding Bane. ...when I saw the theatrical cut of the film in theaters he was much louder than before, a totally diff mix. Almost a big F-you from Nolan to all the people who complained about not being able to understand him.

[StevenOtero]

Sean Gerber
Modern Myth Media (http://www.modernmythmedia.com/2012/07/film-review-the-dark-knight-rises/)

In 2005, director Christopher Nolan redefined the superhero origin film by grounding the first chapter in Bruce Wayne’s story in heightened realism on practical, emotional, and philosophical levels in “Batman Begins.” It was only three years later that Nolan would completely transcend the genre all other masked heroes called home with “The Dark Knight.” It was modern crime drama that forced Batman to wonder what his intended symbol of hope actually inspired, all while battling an anarchist who wore clown makeup and had a knack for predicting mankind’s wavering relationship with morality. Now, Christopher Nolan and his award-winning collaborators have returned to deliver the inevitable conclusion to the story of Bruce Wayne and the city he protects. “The Dark Knight Rises” is an all-out war movie with not just lives, but souls and the very nature of heroism at stake. It is a masterful epic that proves the final hour of this trilogy is also its finest.

Continue Reading (http://www.modernmythmedia.com/2012/07/film-review-the-dark-knight-rises/)

[jobberone]

Great movie but the acting wasn't anything compared to the Dark Knight. Then again Heath Ledger gave an incredible performance. Entertainment wise I can't decide between the two. I got called out of the IMAX, got passes to return but had to go to the regular theatre because the IMAX was sold out. Big difference. I'll return soon to the IMAX and watch again.

[Rogah]

I could understand it just fine, my theater has their sound setup correctly. A lot don't, so you'll get a mix going through the wrong speakers.Sorry, but there's too many people with the exact same complaint to blame it on a couple theaters who don't have the audio equipment set up properly. I've seen many movies at my local IMAX theater and never had this problem before.

I honestly believe I'll enjoy it a heck of alot more when I get it on blu-ray and watch it with the subtitles turned on. But for now, I stand by my statement that the sound mixing was atrocious and seriously impacted the quality and enjoyment of the film.

[Rogah]

I find it amusing how people who like darker movies are not only so certain they are right about their opinions, but they show incredible amounts of disdain for anyone who dares disagree. As if they are somehow more enlightened than all the rest of us. :rolleyes:

[TheCount]

Saw it this morning. It was fantastic, enjoyed it from start to finish. Still a little annoyed Nolan left out any reference to the Joker whatsoever not because it made any sense to the story but because of Heath passed away. I think he could have managed to recognize, on film, what Ledger brought to the franchise. In fact I think it would have been a rather fitting tribute, it'll be the main role he's remembered for.

The end was so great, a perfect sunsetting of this imagining of The Dark Knight.

I had no problem understanding Bane for the most part, there were a couple of times where I wished they'd turn up the dialog part of the mix a little bit. I liked Hardy's take on Bane, he had his work cut out for him with only his eyes to work with in terms of conveying emotion.

I'd gladly see it again, that's for sure. Puts Spiderman to shame. ;)

[TheCount]

Me too, can't stand them. I'm def going to see it though. If only they'd start making an option to rent them on demand through your cable box.

They do, you just have to wait months. Why would they steam new releases to your tv, that wouldn't make any sense financially.

[DallasEast]

My opinion: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4628226&postcount=191

[a_minimalist]

They do, you just have to wait months. Why would they steam new releases to your tv, that wouldn't make any sense financially.

Sure it would. I don't know how you came to that conclusion. You charge the same price as a movie ticket.

[DallasEast]

Sure it would. I don't know how you came to that conclusion. You charge the same price as a movie ticket.
If movie studios started releasing all their films in that format, piracy would skyrocket beyond its present levels. Profits would be significantly impacted. In my opinion, they are waiting for technology to advance enough to provide stronger protections.

[a_minimalist]

If movie studios started releasing all their films in that format, piracy would skyrocket beyond its present levels. Profits would be significantly impacted. In my opinion, they are waiting for technology to advance enough to provide stronger protections.

That's more plausible but piracy is already through the roof. I think that's probably closer to the reason why though.

[DallasEast]

That's more plausible but piracy is already through the roof. I think that's probably closer to the reason why though.
Since streaming technology already exists, I think that it's highly plausible. Additionally, I would guess that there might also be reservations considering server capacity/film delivery on premiere dates for highly anticipated, first release movies via streaming.

I would not be shocked at how many millions of customers would have requested movie on demand delivery of The Dark Knight Rises on opening day. It would be exponentially higher than what will be demanded once the film is eventually released on blu-ray for home consumption after it's initial theater run. And that will be enormously high too.

[a_minimalist]

Since streaming technology already exists, I think that it's highly plausible. Additionally, I would guess that there might also be reservations considering server capacity/film delivery on premiere dates for highly anticipated, first release movies via streaming.

I would not be shocked at how many millions of customers would have requested movie on demand delivery of The Dark Knight Rises on opening day. It would be exponentially higher than what will be demanded once the film is eventually released on blu-ray for home consumption after it's initial theater run. And that will be enormously high too.

Your last paragraph seems dead on. I was actually thinking about it and it would probably be more profitable to release ten on demand right away. Sure there are arguments for releasing it on demand first could be more profitable though. The tech probably just isn't there as you suggested.

[StevenOtero]

We'll start to see more feature films be streamed same day as theater. You just have to realize that many directors want their films to be enjoyed as they were intended...on the big screen.

I hate going to the theaters because of people that can't keep their damn traps shut.

My Lady and I were sitting in front of the most obnoxious yuppie/hipster types that would not shut the hell up.

Edit: You can't forget that this is a must see on IMAX.

[DallasEast]

We'll start to see more feature films be streamed same day as theater. You just have to realize that many directors want their films to be enjoyed as they were intended...on the big screen.

I hate going to the theaters because of people that can't keep their damn traps shut.

My Lady and I were sitting in front of the most obnoxious yuppie/hipster types that would not shut the hell up.

Edit: You can't forget that this is a must see on IMAX.
I'm... not so sure directors are the stumbling block for movies being streamed. I think that the movie studios pretty much have complete say about it. :)

[StevenOtero]

I'm... not so sure directors are the stumbling block for movies being streamed. I think that the movie studios pretty much have complete say about it. :)Well, I can say that Nolan had the majority of the say in his final two movies in TDK trilogy.

I know what you mean though.

[DallasEast]

Well, I can say that Nolan had the majority of the say in his final two movies in TDK trilogy.

I know what you mean though.
I'm sure that Christopher Nolan had complete creative authority over his films. Or at least he should have that level of contractual guarantee. He's an excellent director and studio heads should always stay out of his way.

However, distribution control of films is the hands of the studios, not the directors. The directors can influence certain things like release dates, however.

[StevenOtero]

I'm sure that Christopher Nolan had complete creative authority over his films. Or at least he should have that level of contractual guarantee. He's an excellent director and studio heads should always stay out of his way.

However, distribution control of films is the hands of the studios, not the directors. The directors can influence certain things like release dates, however.You're preaching to the choir here. I only meant that directors would be upset that their films would not be exclusive to the theaters upon theatrical release.

[DallasEast]

You're preaching to the choir here. I only meant that directors would be upset that their films would not be exclusive to the theaters upon theatrical release.
No argument there. Hollywood is not unlike an institution unto itself and directors enjoy the glamour and prestige which their theatrical films link them to it.

[StevenOtero]

Listen/Download: http://snd.sc/MBw4ql

The interview with Christopher Nolan starts at the 37 minute mark.

[TheCount]

Sure it would. I don't know how you came to that conclusion. You charge the same price as a movie ticket.

Yeah, that makes sense. Try to take your entire family to see a movie in a theater for the price of one ticket and let me know how that goes.

You take two people with you to the movies, you're paying for 3 tickets. That's 3 individual sales to 1. Seems like a pretty good incentive to not stream on the day of release, much less before DVD sales.

[StevenOtero]

Yeah, that makes sense. Try to take your entire family to see a movie in a theater for the price of one ticket and let me know how that goes.Exactly

[Rogah]

Sure it would. I don't know how you came to that conclusion. You charge the same price as a movie ticket.You know what they should do? They should make movies and send them directly to television for people to watch for free. But since people are watching for free, they can institute breaks in those movies called "commercials" where they sell advertising space.

Of course, these "commercials" could never generate as much revenue as ticket sales generate so actually what they should do is have some movies for free and some you have to pay for. And since ticket sales generate more revenue than commercials, the production quality of those paid-movies would be better than the free-movies.

Then people could choose what they want. Stay home and watch something mediocre for free, or pay $12 to watch something with superior production quality, acting, effects, etc. To further enhance the experience, these "paid" movies could be shown in public auditoriums with superior quality audios and visuals.

The only problem with that setup is you run the risk of people whining that they want to be able to watch the superior production movie for free since other forms of entertainment are free. Nah, that could never happen. No one is forced to do anything they don't want to do so no one would be silly enough to whine about such a thing. :D

[ScipioCowboy]

Good movie. I can only imagine how much better it would've been if I'd been able to understand the dialogue.

[Rogah]

Good movie. I can only imagine how much better it would've been if I'd been able to understand the dialogue.+1. I kept expecting the movie to have an appearance from this guy:

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001342885/boomhower_answer_5_xlarge.jpeg

[a_minimalist]

You know what they should do? They should make movies and send them directly to television for people to watch for free. But since people are watching for free, they can institute breaks in those movies called "commercials" where they sell advertising space.

Of course, these "commercials" could never generate as much revenue as ticket sales generate so actually what they should do is have some movies for free and some you have to pay for. And since ticket sales generate more revenue than commercials, the production quality of those paid-movies would be better than the free-movies.

Then people could choose what they want. Stay home and watch something mediocre for free, or pay $12 to watch something with superior production quality, acting, effects, etc. To further enhance the experience, these "paid" movies could be shown in public auditoriums with superior quality audios and visuals.

The only problem with that setup is you run the risk of people whining that they want to be able to watch the superior production movie for free since other forms of entertainment are free. Nah, that could never happen. No one is forced to do anything they don't want to do so no one would be silly enough to whine about such a thing. :D

clearly you're not aware of the argument that it's more than possible to have a better screen and sound system in your home than at the movie theatre. nice try to make something that is subjective, objective. you failed though because people would be far more likely to rent a movie at home than go to a movie. in today's mobile society there's also another market for people who constantly travel and parents who don't have the time to leave their home but really want to see a movie as soon as some free time opens up.

when it happens in a few years we'll see if you're still making smart *** remarks. hopefully by then you'll realize you're not as clever as you think you are.

by the way, keep preaching ideas that are decades old slick.

[a_minimalist]

Yeah, that makes sense. Try to take your entire family to see a movie in a theater for the price of one ticket and let me know how that goes.

You take two people with you to the movies, you're paying for 3 tickets. That's 3 individual sales to 1. Seems like a pretty good incentive to not stream on the day of release, much less before DVD sales.

And there are no other markets that open up? They could easily up the price since you are watching it at home. It will eventually happen.

By the way if you think that the increase in movie watching wouldn't make up for the loss by the purchase of more than one movie ticket per movie, well, you're wrong. People avoid movie theaters on opening day because of the crowd. Open them up to everyone at home as well as movie theaters, sales increase, try explaining how that wouldn't increase revenues for studios.

[Rogah]

clearly you're not aware of the argument that it's more than possible to have a better screen and sound system in your home than at the movie theatre.Bullcrap. Unless you're Bill Gates, you'll never have something in your home that is equivalent to today's IMAX screens. Oh sure, if you spend enough money you can have something nicer than the 75 year old Ioka Theater down the street with the $1 popcorn and the movies that have been out for 7 months, but you'll never compete with a top quality theater.
you failed though because people would be far more likely to rent a movie at home than go to a movie. in today's mobile society there's also another market for people who constantly travel and parents who don't have the time to leave their home but really want to see a movie as soon as some free time opens up.

when it happens in a few years we'll see if you're still making smart *** remarks. hopefully by then you'll realize you're not as clever as you think you are.

by the way, keep preaching ideas that are decades old slick.Tell you what: How about you allow movie makers to make movies the way they want to, and if there's an audience for their method they can continue.

If someone wants to make a crap quality movie for your hypothetical stay-at-home parents and people like you who whine about the cost of the tickets, then more power to 'em! Meanwhile, please allow the rest of us the ability to pay $12 or so to see superior quality productions. I'll go see The Dark Knight and Inglorious Basterds, you can enjoy Lion King 2: Simba's Pride and Starship Troopers 4 (or whatever number they're on now).

[Rogah]

People avoid movie theaters on opening day because of the crowd. Open them up to everyone at home as well as movie theaters, sales increase, try explaining how that wouldn't increase revenues for studios.:laugh2: :laugh1: Oh my! Don't you realize how silly you sound here? "People avoid movie theaters on opening day because of the crowd"..!! :laugh2: :laugh1:


Isn't that a Yogi-ism?!? "Nobody goes there anymore because the place is too crowded" or something like that?

[a_minimalist]

Bullcrap. Unless you're Bill Gates, you'll never have something in your home that is equivalent to today's IMAX screens. Oh sure, if you spend enough money you can have something nicer than the 75 year old Ioka Theater down the street with the $1 popcorn and the movies that have been out for 7 months, but you'll never compete with a top quality theater.
Tell you what: How about you allow movie makers to make movies the way they want to, and if there's an audience for their method they can continue.

If someone wants to make a crap quality movie for your hypothetical stay-at-home parents and people like you who whine about the cost of the tickets, then more power to 'em! Meanwhile, please allow the rest of us the ability to pay $12 or so to see superior quality productions.

I never said IMAX. But not everyone watches every movie on an IMAX screen. Not many movies are even made for IMAX. So nice try, again.

And you're the spokesperson for movie makers? I hate to break it to you but the picture of a blu ray on an LED is better in a lot of peoples' eyes than any theatre screen. you're up close and and the picture quality is striking. the only thing that lacks in the majority of homes is the screen size and even now people are putting projection tv's in their home. your argument makes no sense. rethink it. i'm sure it's hard for you to understand all of this though so i expect an equally ridiculous retort.

[a_minimalist]

:laugh2: :laugh1: Oh my! Don't you realize how silly you sound here? "People avoid movie theaters on opening day because of the crowd"..!! :laugh2: :laugh1:


Isn't that a Yogi-ism?!? "Nobody goes there anymore because the place is too crowded" or something like that?

what are you like 12? yes, adults don't wait in line to see a movie or pack into a movie theatre. their time is more valuable and they have things to do. either you're 12 or over 50 and are having trouble wrapping your head around technology and efficiency and why it makes more sense to release movies via cable box.

[lwehlers]

i just watched the batman movie today. it was great! i need to watch it again to really see if it was better then the second one. i really like how the joker was it that movie. bain was great but not as great as the man that played the joker. still what great movie today. bale was great just like in the last two he was in. he is the best batman.

[VietCowboy]

I love both, I have to rewatch TDK to see if there's one I like better (I have terrible memory).

The husband likes TDK better only because it was more "original" (had more suprirses).

TDKR was very predictable according to him, even though everything was very well done.

I.e. the "twist" the whole movie he thought it was that person all along b/c of the voice (trying not to spoil anything here)

But, despite that, it was still enjoyable. Saw the previews for The Hobbit. Even though you know what it's about, and how it ends, we are still looking forward to watching it.

[Rogah]

I never said IMAX. But not everyone watches every movie on an IMAX screen. Not many movies are even made for IMAX. So nice try, again.You're making absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the quality of audio and visual equipment is so important to someone that they're going to invest a couple thousand dollars in a home theater system, then it just makes no sense to say "not everyone watches a movie on an IMAX screen.
And you're the spokesperson for movie makers?No I'm just intelligent enough to understand that they know their current model works a helluva lot better from their standpoint than one where they release movies directly to TV to satiate all the whiners who don't want to pay $12 to see a movie.
I hate to break it to you but the picture of a blu ray on an LED is better in a lot of peoples' eyes than any theatre screen. For some reason you seem to enjoy demonstrating to the foum that you have no idea what you are talking about. The quality of a theater is superior to the quality of a blu ray player, period, end of discussion.

[Rogah]

what are you like 12? yes, adults don't wait in line to see a movie or pack into a movie theatre.I went to see Batman last night and there were hundreds of adults waiting in line to do precisely that, and the theater was packed.
their time is more valuable and they have things to do. either you're 12 or over 50 and are having trouble wrapping your head around technology and efficiency and why it makes more sense to release movies via cable box.That's hilarious how you think you've figured out something that the ENTIRE movie industry is missing.

Nobody forces anyone to go to a movie theater. If you're too cheap to spend $12 on a ticket then that's fine, but please step aside and let us grown ups who have the money and the desire to see superior quality productions do so.

[a_minimalist]

not everyone watches a movie on an IMAX screen

Let me break this down for you in dumby terms. The majority of movies being played at a movie theatre aren't played on an IMAX screen and aren't shot that way. IMAX is the only way to watch a movie that is far superior than anything someone has at home. If you have trouble understanding this, I can give it to you one sentence at time.

And I hate to break it to you but the picture quality of a screen at a theatre isn't far superior to the quality of a blu-ray player on an LED screen.

No I'm just intelligent enough to understand that they know their current model works a helluva lot better from their standpoint than one where they release movies directly to TV to satiate all the whiners who don't want to pay $12 to see a movie.
For some reason you seem to enjoy demonstrating to the foum that you have no idea what you are talking about. The quality of a theater is superior to the quality of a blu ray player, period, end of discussion.

You keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Also, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious. Tell me where I said ONE TIME that this had anything to do with paying $12. If anything it would be more money to watch at home to make up for any loss in profit from watching the movie with multiple people. The length of time you have to watch the movie would also have to be taken into consideration. But, how about this, you keep arguing about something that you've made up in your mind. I promise you that's one battle you will win!

[a_minimalist]

I went to see Batman last night and there were hundreds of adults waiting in line to do precisely that, and the theater was packed.
That's hilarious how you think you've figured out something that the ENTIRE movie industry is missing.

Adults? What were they 25? And again, I hate to break it to you but this has been talked about for years and will eventually happen. Keep swinging for the fences though slugger!

Nobody forces anyone to go to a movie theater. If you're too cheap to spend $12 on a ticket then that's fine, but please step aside and let us grown ups who have the money and the desire to see superior quality productions do so.

Again, you're making things up in your head. Read some books and practice your reading comprehension. Once you've finished, come back and we can try this again.

Also, if you think that the internet or cable television in everyones home can't compete with a building with limited seats in a given 10 mile radius from someones home, well you're a little slower than you've already shown.

[Boom]

Enjoyed the movie. It was better than Begins, but couldn't touch the magic of TDK. I would have preferred a different ending, but it was still enjoyable.

[Rogah]

Let me break this down for you in dumby terms. The majority of movies being played at a movie theatre aren't played on an IMAX screen and aren't shot that way. IMAX is the only way to watch a movie that is far superior than anything someone has at home. If you have trouble understanding this, I can give it to you one sentence at time.

And I hate to break it to you but the picture quality of a screen at a theatre isn't far superior to the quality of a blu-ray player on an LED screen.Like I said, for some reason you seem to enjoy demonstrating to the group how much you just don't know what you're talking about.

[Rogah]

Adults? What were they 25?Uh, gee, ya know last time I checked 25 year olds were adults, and by a fairly considerable margin. What country do you live in where that isn't the case?
Also, if you think that the internet or cable television in everyones home can't compete with a building with limited seats in a given 10 mile radius from someones home, well you're a little slower than you've already shown.Wow, that's amazing how you're just so much smarter than everyone in the entire movie industry. Just like how you're trying to tell us that no one goes to the movies anymore because they're just so damn crowded! :lmao2: :lmao2:

You're wrong. I know it, just about everyone in this forum knows it, and someday you'll know it too. But, given what you've already estabished about your personality, you'll likely be too pig headed to admit it.

Now if you want to continue this discussion like an adult, I'd be happy to go on. But since your childlike mind clearly believes that whoever has the last word "wins" an argument, I'll gladly step aside and let you have it, so have at it, Sparky!

[a_minimalist]

Like I said, for some reason you seem to enjoy demonstrating to the group how much you just don't know what you're talking about.

No, actually I'm not. I know you're trying to make yourself feel better when you say that though. You should do some research about movie theatre quality vs Blu Ray/home theatre quality. Just don't be too hard on yourself after you do.
I'm sure it will be difficult for you to retain the information since you've already proven how horrible your reading comprehension skills are though. Just know, I believe in you and think you can do it.

[ScipioCowboy]

+1. I kept expecting the movie to have an appearance from this guy:

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001342885/boomhower_answer_5_xlarge.jpeg (http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001342885/boomhower_answer_5_xlarge.jpeg)

Ha!

To me, Bane sounded like one of Charlie Brown's teachers.

[a_minimalist]

Uh, gee, ya know last time I checked 25 year olds were adults, and by a fairly considerable margin. What country do you live in where that isn't the case?

Since you want to be semantical, 25 yr olds are considered young adults not adults. When using the word adult I'm sure most people don't think 25 years old.

Wow, that's amazing how you're just so much smarter than everyone in the entire movie industry. Just like how you're trying to tell us that no one goes to the movies anymore because they're just so damn crowded! :lmao2: :lmao2:

Tell me where I said that was the only reason. I'm pretty sure I mentioned efficiency and time constraints. You're really struggling to comprehend what I'm saying. I feel for you though. Also, people who work in the movie industry aren't some super human species. They aren't brain surgeons like you are making them out to be.



You're wrong. I know it, just about everyone in this forum knows it, and someday you'll know it too. But, given what you've already estabished about your personality, you'll likely be too pig headed to admit it.

Now if you want to continue this discussion like an adult, I'd be happy to go on. But since your childlike mind clearly believes that whoever has the last word "wins" an argument, I'll gladly step aside and let you have it, so have at it, Sparky!

I love how you're speaking for everyone in the forum now. :laugh2:

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong but I'm not wrong yet so why would I?

My "childlike mind" doesn't believe that whoever has the last word wins an argument. My "childlike mind" believes that when someone continues to spit out falsehoods in a discussion they should be corrected.

[Rogah]

Ha!

To me, Bane sounded like one of Charlie Brown's teachers.+1. If the final product represented an improvement over the original quality, I shudder to think how bad it originally was! I read an interesting article speculating about the role Banehouer's mask played in the difficulties so many of us had in understanding him. Losing the ability to kind of "read his lips" while he was talking certainly didn't help.

Looking forward to being able to see the subtitles on this movie. Probably sometime around December. :D

[Rogah]

Enjoyed the movie. It was better than Begins, but couldn't touch the magic of TDK. I would have preferred a different ending, but it was still enjoyable.I think that's a fair ranking of the trilogy. Probably better than Batman Begins but nowhere near as good as the last one. Although I did enjoy Batman Begins for having the courage to tell a non traditional origin story for Batman. And it got the bad taste out of my mouth from Tim Burton's interpretation of the same.

[ScipioCowboy]

+1. If the final product represented an improvement over the original quality, I shudder to think how bad it originally was!

Looking forward to being able to see the subtitles on this movie. Probably sometime around December. :D

My wife made the same comment upon leaving the theater.

I'm actually thankful I read the plot synopsis before going in; otherwise, I might've been completely lost.

It could've just been the theater. I don't know. But I would think the Flix Brewhouse is fairly high end.

[Rogah]

My wife made the same comment upon leaving the theater.

I'm actually thankful I read the plot synopsis before going in; otherwise, I might've been completely lost.

It could've just been the theater. I don't know. But I would think the Flix Brewhouse is fairly high end.There's way too many of us out here making the exact same complaint for it to have just been the theater. It's a complaint Nolan has received before, but never as bad as with this movie. He loves to throw tons of audio - including the soundtrack - at the viewer at once.

[StevenOtero]

There's way too many of us out here making the exact same complaint for it to have just been the theater. It's a complaint Nolan has received before, but never as bad as with this movie. He loves to throw tons of audio - including the soundtrack - at the viewer at once.Yeah, just saw it for a 2nd time tonight at a different theater. I could understand everything just fine, it's strange. FYI the main chain of theaters here is Cinemark.

The dialogue was audible, you either need to clean out your ears or go to another theater. :D

...but in all seriousness it's quite odd how I'm not having any issues in my neck of the woods and people are having issues w/ it in some areas.

So, I'm going to go on the record here: The majority of the comments about the dialogue being inaudible are BS. For the midnight screening I sat near the back of the theater (heard everything just fine) Tonight I sat in the second row from the screen (damn sure heard everything just fine).

[casmith07]

This encapsulates my feelings about superhero and comic book movies in general. I have numerous friends who absolutely adore them, and my wife loves the the Batman movies.

I respect it, but I've never grasped the appeal.

I think the Batman movies are a product of hype.

[Rogah]

Yeah, just saw it for a 2nd time tonight at a different theater. I could understand everything just fine, it's strange. FYI the main chain of theaters here is Cinemark.

The dialogue was audible, you either need to clean out your ears or go to another theater. :D

...but in all seriousness it's quite odd how I'm not having any issues in my neck of the woods and people are having issues w/ it in some areas.

So, I'm going to go on the record here: The majority of the comments about the dialogue being inaudible are BS. For the midnight screening I sat near the back of the theater (heard everything just fine) Tonight I sat in the second row from the screen (damn sure heard everything just fine).There's too many people with the same complaint for it to be BS. If I was the only one saying this then I would certainly look inward for the source of the problem, even though it's a problem I've never had with other movies. But with a sizeable number of people making the same complaint from different theaters across the country, I'm going to call out the movie itself.

[03EBZ06]

Just saw it last night and I enjoyed it immensely. Hoping Batman and Robin comes out next year.

[DallasEast]

Just saw it last night and I enjoyed it immensely. Hoping Batman and Robin comes out next year.
The Dark Knight Rises is the end of Christopher Nolan's interpretation of the character. He did an outstanding job and they should collectively remain a masterpiece for a long time.

If someone else is driven to make a Batman/Robin movie, I pray that they strive to meet Nolan's standard. It would be almost criminal if another director attempts such a film without honoring the characters involved.

[TheCount]

And there are no other markets that open up? They could easily up the price since you are watching it at home. It will eventually happen.

By the way if you think that the increase in movie watching wouldn't make up for the loss by the purchase of more than one movie ticket per movie, well, you're wrong. People avoid movie theaters on opening day because of the crowd. Open them up to everyone at home as well as movie theaters, sales increase, try explaining how that wouldn't increase revenues for studios.

There clearly is no explaining it to you. Go ahead and start a business with that model, let me know how it goes.

[a_minimalist]

There clearly is no explaining it to you. Go ahead and start a business with that model, let me know how it goes.

LOL, I see you're trying to take the same high road as Rogah. Unfortunately, your high road is nonexistent. Both of your attempts to belittle me and make me seem like I am some thick headed dumb *** don't fit. While I might be thick headed at times, I'm not dumb. I think both of those adjectives might apply to you two though.

DallasEast and StevenOtero were the only people to bring a legitimate argument to the table. They did a perfect job of explaining and I listened and they were right so there was nothing to argue. However, you and Rogah are wrong. There is plenty to argue. You've offered nothing of substance on the topic. So while you two walk away from this thinking you took the high road, you didn't. You're both just wrong.

Oh and remember when CD's stopped being the number one way to purchase music? Remember when songs on an album became available to purchase one at a time? Remember when the entire music industries business model was forced to change? How did iTunes turn out? ...................It will probably go something like that smarty pants.

[ChldsPlay]

There's too many people with the same complaint for it to be BS. If I was the only one saying this then I would certainly look inward for the source of the problem, even though it's a problem I've never had with other movies. But with a sizeable number of people making the same complaint from different theaters across the country, I'm going to call out the movie itself.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but haven't had any difficulty with trailers or TV spots yet, but sound quality can vary greatly from theatre to theatre, even from screen to screen at the same theatre, so it's not hard to think a lot of theatres aren't set up like they should be resulting in a common complaint on the audio.

More often than not I'm disappointed in the theatre's audio setup.

[TheCount]

LOL, I see you're trying to take the same high road as Rogah. Unfortunately, your high road is nonexistent.

High Road?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmqx9tL7Vh1qa1g8r.jpg

Nevertheless, the fact that you're using CD's as an example in this context is just further proof you haven't considered your stance very well at all.

The desire to be able to watch new releases at home is perfectly reasonable, it just doesn't make any sense from a business standpoint.

That's all I'm saying, and I don't really think there's any legitimate argument to the contrary, again, from a business standpoint.

There's too many people with the same complaint for it to be BS. If I was the only one saying this then I would certainly look inward for the source of the problem, even though it's a problem I've never had with other movies. But with a sizeable number of people making the same complaint from different theaters across the country, I'm going to call out the movie itself.

I think it's a legitimate complaint for some but I think a lot of the problem is that his mouth was covered and most people don't realize how much they rely on being able to read lips to understand what is being said.

I had very few instances where I was like, "What'd he say"? But I could certainly see how it would be a problem for some, eitherway some are making it seem like he was completely incomprehensible throughout the film which is simply untrue.

[a_minimalist]

High Road?

Yes, rather than lay out your argument, you said this, "There clearly is no explaining it to you. Go ahead and start a business with that model, let me know how it goes."

Nevertheless, the fact that you're using CD's as an example in this context is just further proof you haven't considered your stance very well at all.

The desire to be able to watch new releases at home is perfectly reasonable, it just doesn't make any sense from a business standpoint.

That's all I'm saying, and I don't really think there's any legitimate argument to the contrary, again, from a business standpoint.

Yes it does. You're missing the bigger picture. My point was that business models have to change as well as the way industries make a profit. I used CD's as an example of a preferred medium that was forced to change. It's a little more abstract than I would prefer but the point is still there.

You're right it doesn't make any sense, for the film industry. It would require some investment and a lot of negotiating to allow it to happen. It's much easier to stick with the status quo. But, they will be forced to allow it to happen eventually.

It's very, very difficult for me to take anyone serious who automatically dismisses the argument that it could be just as profitable if not more profitable to allow streaming on opening day.

[ScipioCowboy]

I think the Batman movies are a product of hype.

They're good films. However, there are some fans who go to the extreme. In their world, if you take classic super heroes and put them in a film noir setting, you instantly have Citizen Kain.