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Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 08:38 AM
A naked man who chewed off the face of another man in what is being called a zombie-like attack may have been under the influence of "bath salts," a drug referred to as the new LSD, according to reports from CNN affiliates in Miami.

The horrific attack occurred Saturday and was only stopped after a police officer shot the attacker several times, killing him.

Larry Vega witnessed the attack on Miami's MacArthur Causeway. He told CNN affiliate WSVN he saw one naked man chewing off the face of another naked man.

"The guy was like tearing him to pieces with his mouth, so I told him, 'Get off!'" Vega told WSVN. "You know it's like the guy just kept eating the other guy away, like ripping his skin."

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/29/reports-miami-zombie-attacker-may-have-been-using-bath-salts/?iref=allsearch

wittenacious
05-29-2012, 08:56 AM
Well this just sounds like a complete horror show of a drug to now know is out there in the world. "Bath salts" — such an innocuous sounding name for something that can trigger this kind of ultra-extreme abhorrent behavior. From the article:"It causes them to go completely insane and become very violent and take off their clothes," Augilar told WPLG.

Dr. Paul Adams, an emergency room physician at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, told CNN affiliate WBFS that the drug makes users delirious. They exhibit elevated temperatures and extreme physical strength, Adams said.

“I took care of a 150 pound individual who you would have thought he was 250 pounds,” WBFS quoted Adams as saying. “It took six security officers to restrain the individual.”

Adams said users have been known to use their jaws as weapons, according to WBFS.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 09:02 AM
Well this just sounds like a complete horror show of a drug to now know is out there in the world. "Bath salts" — such an innocuous sounding name for something that can trigger this kind of ultra-extreme abhorrent behavior. From the article:

"It causes them to go completely insane and become very violent" and take off their clothes, Augilar told WPLG.

Dr. Paul Adams, an emergency room physician at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, told CNN affiliate WBFS that the drug makes users delirious. They exhibit elevated temperatures and extreme physical strength, Adams said.

“I took care of a 150 pound individual who you would have thought he was 250 pounds,” WBFS quoted Adams as saying. “It took six security officers to restrain the individual.”

Adams said users have been known to use their jaws as weapons, according to WBFS.

I have never heard of anything like this. This is wild, hate to think of an outbreak of this drug.

wittenacious
05-29-2012, 09:11 AM
I have never heard of anything like this. This is wild, hate to think of an outbreak of this drug.
Could really become a Zombieland of sorts. Have to have the National Guard roaming the streets all hours of the day and night ... curfews, etc. ... if there ever became a significant usage outbreak of this drug.

We'd all have to wear hockey masks and body armor and carry sawed-off shotguns to protect ourselves. Now that's a way of going about our daily lives that I don't want to have to see happen anytime soon. :eek:

What will they come up with next? Almost shudder to think about it. Unbelievable!

CashMan
05-29-2012, 09:18 AM
Do they know if he did this with the intention of getting high? I don't know too many men who take baths.....Not that I go around and ask other men this.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 09:27 AM
Do they know if he did this with the intention of getting high? I don't know too many men who take baths.....Not that I go around and ask other men this.

Bath Salt:

"Ivory Wave," "Purple Wave," Vanilla Sky," and "Bliss" -- all are among the many street names of a so-called designer drug known as “bath salts,” which has sparked thousands of calls to poison centers across the U.S. over the last year.

Citing an “imminent threat to public safety,” the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) made illegal the possession and sale of three of the chemicals commonly used to make bath salts -- the synthetic stimulants mephedrone, MDPV, and methylone. The ban, issued in October 2011, is effective for at least a year. During that time, the agency will decide whether a permanent ban is warranted.

WebMD talked about bath salts and other designer drugs with Zane Horowitz, MD, an emergency room physician and medical director of the Oregon Poison Center


http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/bath-salts-drug-dangers

CashMan
05-29-2012, 09:39 AM
I guess I was thinking something else.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 09:40 AM
I guess I was thinking something else.

I had no clue as to what this was until I looked it up, your question was legit.

Muhast
05-29-2012, 09:55 AM
I have never heard of anything like this. This is wild, hate to think of an outbreak of this drug.


They used to sell these at Gas Stations. Seriously, they were sold in stores under the guise of "bath salts" and people caught on to what they were really for. Luckily Police and the Government caught on to and they pulled them from stores a year or two ago.

They have a result of being something like LSD and Meth mixed together.

BrAinPaiNt
05-29-2012, 09:58 AM
The whole situation reminds me of the Reavers from Serenity/Firefly.

rocboy22
05-29-2012, 09:59 AM
wow. just wow. Who knows what really goes on, but it is hard for me to believe that taking any drug would make me eat someone's face off!! just so sickening!!

Muhast
05-29-2012, 10:19 AM
wow. just wow. Who knows what really goes on, but it is hard for me to believe that taking any drug would make me eat someone's face off!! just so sickening!!


People do crazy things on drugs.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 10:24 AM
People do crazy things on drugs.

Crazy? Yes, eating a mans face off? that one is a new one for me.

Guy did not stop even when confronted by police or when they shot him the 1st time

Muhast
05-29-2012, 11:21 AM
Crazy? Yes, eating a mans face off? that one is a new one for me.

Guy did not stop even when confronted by police or when they shot him the 1st time


Didn't the doctor say that people on this drug use their teeth as weapons often?

To me this is terrifying, but if you've ever seen somebody on hard drugs before, it is mind boggling how different they will act.

rocboy22
05-29-2012, 11:24 AM
Didn't the doctor say that people on this drug use their teeth as weapons often?

To me this is terrifying, but if you've ever seen somebody on hard drugs before, it is mind boggling how different they will act.

yea, different from their normal behavior, but eating someone's face?? that, to me, is just so absolutely insane. If this stuff really turns people into zombies, then watch out!!!

arglebargle
05-29-2012, 11:32 AM
The story is suffering from hyperbolic media disorder. For any drug you want to examine, you can find a tale of extreme behavior or trouble.

I think I will wait to find out more about the facts here.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone

ethiostar
05-29-2012, 11:33 AM
The whole situation reminds me of the Reavers from Serenity/Firefly.

That's exactly what I was thinking also.

Yeagermeister
05-29-2012, 11:35 AM
The story is suffering from hyperbolic media disorder. For any drug you want to examine, you can find a tale of extreme behavior or trouble.

I think I will wait to find out more about the facts here.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone

:ohno: No way that never happens

/sarcasm

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 11:39 AM
Didn't the doctor say that people on this drug use their teeth as weapons often?

To me this is terrifying, but if you've ever seen somebody on hard drugs before, it is mind boggling how different they will act.

On this drug yes evidently so but on most drugs I don't know of any where you use your teeth as a weapon to attack people.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 11:42 AM
The story is suffering from hyperbolic media disorder. For any drug you want to examine, you can find a tale of extreme behavior or trouble.

I think I will wait to find out more about the facts here.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone

Mephedrone is only one of the drugs used in "Bath Salt" not the only drug within it's make up.

Muhast
05-29-2012, 11:42 AM
yea, different from their normal behavior, but eating someone's face?? that, to me, is just so absolutely insane. If this stuff really turns people into zombies, then watch out!!!


I have never seen somebody do that, but I've seen people do some very odd things that normal people would never do. Like super human strength, 6 police officers trying to hold one average size person down and struggling to do so.

I feel so bad for the people driving on that highway that morning. Could you imagine seeing another person ripping another humans face to pieces right in front of you on your way to work or the store? I imagine that is a sight they will never forget.

sacase
05-29-2012, 11:47 AM
On this drug yes evidently so but on most drugs I don't know of any where you use your teeth as a weapon to attack people.

Brah....two words....zombie apocalypse.

http://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmatters/2011/05/preparedness-101-zombie-apocalypse/

rocboy22
05-29-2012, 11:48 AM
I have never seen somebody do that, but I've seen people do some very odd things that normal people would never do. Like super human strength, 6 police officers trying to hold one average size person down and struggling to do so.

I feel so bad for the people driving on that highway that morning. Could you imagine seeing another person ripping another humans face to pieces right in front of you on your way to work or the store? I imagine that is a sight they will never forget.

you said it! real-life horror movie

arglebargle
05-29-2012, 11:49 AM
Mephedrone is only one of the drugs used in "Bath Salt" not the only drug within it's make up.

With illegal, 'street' drugs, you never know for sure what you are getting. So that's very likely to be an accurate observation.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 11:50 AM
Brah....two words....zombie apocalypse.

http://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmatters/2011/05/preparedness-101-zombie-apocalypse/

I saw that on the discovery channel. The groups uses this as a worst case scenario but it really is more about basic survival should something catastrophic happen. I'm not one who really puts much thought into this but some of the things they said of things you would need to look out for was interesting.

arglebargle
05-29-2012, 11:51 AM
It certainly does look like the beginning of a zombie movie or novel.

'More brains! Send more brains!'

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 11:54 AM
With illegal, 'street' drugs, you never know for sure what you are getting. So that's very likely to be an accurate observation.

True but to make this particular drug there are certain ingredients that were needed to produce it.

I don't think this is "hyperbolic media disorder" when the user of this drug just ate 80% of this mans face and would not stop even when confronted by police and shot. Add to that other encounters by doctors when confronted with a user of this drug.

TheCount
05-29-2012, 12:03 PM
Crazy? Yes, eating a mans face off? that one is a new one for me.

Guy did not stop even when confronted by police or when they shot him the 1st time

A few years ago, some dude took mushrooms and ended up carving the still-beating heart out of his friends chest.

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 12:06 PM
A few years ago, some dude took mushrooms and ended up carving the still-beating heart out of his friends chest.

Not much of a friend. :laugh2:

I agree some drugs can create a delusional state of mind and cause people to become violent and paranoid. Eating a person is just a new one on me.

MetalHead
05-29-2012, 12:08 PM
Cannibalism..the new South Beach Diet.

Hoofbite
05-29-2012, 12:49 PM
The story is suffering from hyperbolic media disorder. For any drug you want to examine, you can find a tale of extreme behavior or trouble.

I think I will wait to find out more about the facts here.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone

I don't think it's exaggeration.

I've been hearing of this stuff for a while.

I know a person who's brother passed away because of what happened while he was on it.

rocboy22
05-29-2012, 12:52 PM
I don't think it's exaggeration.

I've been hearing of this stuff for a while.

I know a person who's brother passed away because of what happened while he was on it.

did his brother attack someone with his jaw?

Hoofbite
05-29-2012, 12:55 PM
did his brother attack someone with his jaw?

Not that I am aware of.

Hostile
05-29-2012, 01:05 PM
When I was a firefighter I saw someone on PCP one time. That was scary enough. It took 6 of us to subdue him and that was after a really hard kick to the balls by one of my cohorts.

I can't even fathom something worse than PCP but this sounds like it could be.

Yeagermeister
05-29-2012, 02:19 PM
Cannibalism..the new South Beach Diet.

The pounds just fall right off of you

Cowboys&LakersFan
05-29-2012, 02:20 PM
This is one sick, sick world.

wittenacious
05-29-2012, 02:37 PM
Cannibalism..the new South Beach Diet.
The pounds just fall right off of you
You are two sick puppies, LOL. I can only assume no other "pups" survived from among the progenies each of you were born into.

So ... only children now, are we? :laugh2:

WV Cowboy
05-29-2012, 03:09 PM
Would you give up eating someone else's face if it lowered your carbon footprint?

wittenacious
05-29-2012, 03:18 PM
Would you give up eating someone else's face if it lowered your carbon footprint?
Good question. Hard to say. Once you develop a taste for something — other peoples' faces and such — it can be awfully hard to give it up. Eco-conscious or eating people's faces? Societal responsibility or societal abomination? I'd probably have to flip a coin.

rocboy22
05-29-2012, 03:20 PM
Good question. Hard to say. Once you develop a taste for something — other peoples' faces and such — it can be awfully hard to give it up. Eco-conscious or eating people's faces? Societal responsibility or societal abomination? I'd probably have to flip a coin.
:lmao:

Doomsday101
05-29-2012, 04:15 PM
Question?

I know what goes with liver. Doc Lecter: "I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti

but what goes good with face? :laugh2:

rkell87
05-29-2012, 06:22 PM
When I was a firefighter I saw someone on PCP one time. That was scary enough. It took 6 of us to subdue him and that was after a really hard kick to the balls by one of my cohorts.

I can't even fathom something worse than PCP but this sounds like it could be.

my uncle has a similar story, he is a big guy(was being recruited to play TE by texas, tore his knee up playing flag football with chicks) and worked as a bouncer in college, one night a guy was trying to get in and was on PCP, ended up fighting my uncle and my uncle got 3 solid hits to the jaw and nothing. He ended up just backing up until his friends said the cops were coming, at which point the guy started smashing his face into the brick wall. crazy

vta
05-29-2012, 07:36 PM
Question?

I know what goes with liver. Doc Lecter: "I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti

but what goes good with face? :laugh2:

Parsnips purιe, 1998 Domaine de Pegau Chateauneuf du Pape and Peach Ice Cream for dessert.

sacase
05-29-2012, 07:45 PM
Pics of the dude are up on Gawker.....I am warning you they are extremely graphic. Look them up at your own risk. I think it is worse than some of the suicide bombings I have seen.

vta
05-29-2012, 07:57 PM
Pics of the dude are up on Gawker.....I am warning you they are extremely graphic. Look them up at your own risk. I think it is worse than some of the suicide bombings I have seen.

I don't want to look, but do you mean pics of the victim?

Cowboys&LakersFan
05-29-2012, 07:59 PM
I don't want to look, but do you mean pics of the victim?

Yes I just saw the photos. Wish I didn't.

ethiostar
05-29-2012, 08:01 PM
"The guy was like tearing him to pieces with his mouth, so I told him, 'Get off!'" Vega told WSVN. "You know it's like the guy just kept eating the other guy away, like ripping his skin."



:laugh2:

This is a sick sick sick story but that response from the eyewitness made me laugh out loud. Not exactly what I would expect someone to say or do when they see someone eating another person's face off.

sacase
05-29-2012, 08:08 PM
I don't want to look, but do you mean pics of the victim?

Yeah, pics of the victim. It's that bad. seriously, if you see the pics, you won' t be cracking jokes...

Cowboys&LakersFan
05-29-2012, 08:10 PM
:laugh2:

This is a sick sick sick story but that response from the eyewitness made me laugh out loud. Not exactly what I would expect someone to say or do when they see someone eating another person's face off.

What's wrong with you?

Hoofbite
05-29-2012, 08:23 PM
Pics of the dude are up on Gawker.....I am warning you they are extremely graphic. Look them up at your own risk. I think it is worse than some of the suicide bombings I have seen.

Wow. That's unreal. I cannot believe he ate that much of the dudes face.

vta
05-29-2012, 08:46 PM
Yeah, pics of the victim. It's that bad. seriously, if you see the pics, you won' t be cracking jokes...

I'll pass.

Cowboys&LakersFan
05-29-2012, 08:59 PM
I'll pass.

Good decision.

CowboyMcCoy
05-29-2012, 10:18 PM
Yeah, pics of the victim. It's that bad. seriously, if you see the pics, you won' t be cracking jokes...

It's hard to get people to see the seriousness of some things unless you show it to them. This is one of them.

theogt
05-29-2012, 10:47 PM
Yes, I suggest not looking up the pictures of the victim. To be honest, it might have been better for him if they had not kept him alive.

BraveHeartFan
05-29-2012, 11:04 PM
This story is awful. I haven't seen the pictures and I don't know that I'm ever going to. It just sounds too terrible to want to look at it.

BraveHeartFan
05-29-2012, 11:08 PM
Nope....I was stupid. Had to let curiosity get the best of me.

Trust me.

It's not something you want to see.

Easily one of the most horrific things I've ever seen.

Hostile
05-29-2012, 11:42 PM
my uncle has a similar story, he is a big guy(was being recruited to play TE by texas, tore his knee up playing flag football with chicks) and worked as a bouncer in college, one night a guy was trying to get in and was on PCP, ended up fighting my uncle and my uncle got 3 solid hits to the jaw and nothing. He ended up just backing up until his friends said the cops were coming, at which point the guy started smashing his face into the brick wall. crazy
Yeah, they are freaky strong and crazy on that stuff. It scared me half to death to be truthful. I have often said if a cop shoots someone on that it is a justifiable shooting as far as I am concerned.

Hoofbite
05-29-2012, 11:47 PM
Nope....I was stupid. Had to let curiosity get the best of me.

Trust me.

It's not something you want to see.

Easily one of the most horrific things I've ever seen.

Oh, definitely.

I can't even imagine what he will look like moving forward.

Signals
05-30-2012, 12:20 AM
The decision NOT to look at the pics was an easy one for me and reading the comments of those who chose to view them only makes me feel good about my choice.

Congrats you crazy people. :laugh2:

Hoofbite
05-30-2012, 12:25 AM
The decision NOT to look at the pics was an easy one for me and reading the comments of those who chose to view them only makes me feel good about my choice.

Congrats you crazy people. :laugh2:

I've got a pretty strong stomach. I can handle most things but the sight of that made my stomach turn for about 10 minutes.

Lonestar94
05-30-2012, 12:38 AM
I've got a pretty strong stomach. I can handle most things but the sight of that made my stomach turn for about 10 minutes.

Yeah i'm regretting it right now.

Ren
05-30-2012, 12:57 AM
I have never heard of anything like this. This is wild, hate to think of an outbreak of this drug.

Some guy in West Virginia raped a midget goat while on this drug like a year ago only other time i remember hearing about it

Doomsday101
05-30-2012, 07:36 AM
Some guy in West Virginia raped a midget goat while on this drug like a year ago only other time i remember hearing about it

Naaa that happens all time. :laugh2: Especially in West Virginia and drugs are not even required but nice if you have them.:laugh2:

Doomsday101
05-30-2012, 07:37 AM
I don't want to look, but do you mean pics of the victim?

I'm with you about not looking at those pictures have no desire to see it.

BrAinPaiNt
05-30-2012, 07:45 AM
Hmm...seems to fit. A scene about a zombie and two guys singing a song about drugs.

v_G9yIDG4oo

Yeagermeister
05-30-2012, 07:52 AM
Some guy in West Virginia raped a midget goat while on this drug like a year ago only other time i remember hearing about it

I wondered why BP disappeared for a while 3 yrs ago :laugh1:

Doomsday101
05-30-2012, 08:02 AM
I wondered why BP disappeared for a while 3 yrs ago :laugh1:

Yeah if you ever see a small goat running around in a field wearing a Cowboys jersey that is the handy work of BP. :laugh2:

BrAinPaiNt
05-30-2012, 08:06 AM
I wondered why BP disappeared for a while 3 yrs ago :laugh1:


Back in my witness relocation days...
http://www.tamegoeswild.com/photos/coppermine/albums/200708_mongolia/joseph_cowboy_hat_04.jpg

Doomsday101
05-30-2012, 08:09 AM
Back in my witness relocation days...
http://www.tamegoeswild.com/photos/coppermine/albums/200708_mongolia/joseph_cowboy_hat_04.jpg

Party time in the big WV. :laugh2:

Go tell your momma-sister I'll be late for dinner.

Yeagermeister
05-30-2012, 08:43 AM
Back in my witness relocation days...
http://www.tamegoeswild.com/photos/coppermine/albums/200708_mongolia/joseph_cowboy_hat_04.jpg

aka working razor days :laugh1:

BraveHeartFan
05-30-2012, 12:30 PM
The decision NOT to look at the pics was an easy one for me and reading the comments of those who chose to view them only makes me feel good about my choice.

Congrats you crazy people. :laugh2:

Definately the right decision.

No one should ever see something like that.


I've got a pretty strong stomach. I can handle most things but the sight of that made my stomach turn for about 10 minutes.

Exactly how I felt.

Absolutely horrific.

Oh, definitely.

I can't even imagine what he will look like moving forward.

Man I thought he died?

I guess I completely misread that cause I thought that I read that he died.

Yikes....why would they want to do that to this poor guy? What kind of life can he possibly have at this point?

Cythim
05-31-2012, 05:10 AM
Definately the right decision.

No one should ever see something like that.




Exactly how I felt.

Absolutely horrific.



Man I thought he died?

I guess I completely misread that cause I thought that I read that he died.

Yikes....why would they want to do that to this poor guy? What kind of life can he possibly have at this point?

The only possible reason I could fathom is to ask the guy what the heck happened.



And to ensure our doom by keeping an infected human alive.

JonJon
06-01-2012, 11:15 AM
A security surveillance camera caught the majority of the 18 minute zombie attack on camera. Here is the link below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/new-face-eating-attack-video-miami-rudy-eugene-18-minutes_n_1555653.html

Edit: Video link replaced with full video

Phoenix
06-01-2012, 11:24 AM
A security surveillance camera caught the majority of the 18 minute zombie attack on camera. Here is the link below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/new-face-eating-attack-video-miami-rudy-eugene-18-minutes_n_1555653.html

Edit: Video link replaced with full video


Holy crap