DMN: Gosselin: Cowboys must give Dez Bryant maximum penalty for ‘selfish’ actions

[WoodysGirl]

By SportsDayDFW sports
websports@dallasnews.com
9:28 pm on July 16, 2012 | Permalink
RICK GOSSELIN
Columnist

The NFL’s collective bargaining agreement says a team can suspend a player for up to four weeks without pay for “conduct detrimental to the club.”

It’s time the Cowboys sat down Dez Bryant for the maximum. For the sake of the team and, frankly, for his own sake.

Bryant was arrested Monday on a domestic violence charge. It was his second run-in with the law this off-season . He also was involved in a brawl at a Miami Beach nightclub in January. There have been mall and jewelry incidents as well in his brief career with the Cowboys.

Bryant doesn’t get it. He never has and, if the Cowboys don’t take action at some point very soon, he never will.

Playing pro football is a privilege, not a right. It’s a children’s game played by adults. But being a millionaire doesn’t give anyone the right to act like a child. In the real world, adults must be held accountable for their actions both on and off the field.

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2012/07/gosselin-cowboys-must-give-dez-bryant-maximum-penalty-for-selfish-actions.html/

[JakeCamp12]

It is a painful day when I actually agree with Goose.....:bang2:

[Beast_from_East]

By SportsDayDFW sports
websports@dallasnews.com
9:28 pm on July 16, 2012 | Permalink
RICK GOSSELIN
Columnist

The NFL’s collective bargaining agreement says a team can suspend a player for up to four weeks without pay for “conduct detrimental to the club.”

It’s time the Cowboys sat down Dez Bryant for the maximum. For the sake of the team and, frankly, for his own sake.

Bryant was arrested Monday on a domestic violence charge. It was his second run-in with the law this off-season . He also was involved in a brawl at a Miami Beach nightclub in January. There have been mall and jewelry incidents as well in his brief career with the Cowboys.

Bryant doesn’t get it. He never has and, if the Cowboys don’t take action at some point very soon, he never will.

Playing pro football is a privilege, not a right. It’s a children’s game played by adults. But being a millionaire doesn’t give anyone the right to act like a child. In the real world, adults must be held accountable for their actions both on and off the field.

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2012/07/gosselin-cowboys-must-give-dez-bryant-maximum-penalty-for-selfish-actions.html/

If Dez is gone for 4 games, we have Austin and Ogletree as our starters.

Ouch.:bang2:

[Phoenix]

Ridiculous rush to judgment IMHO.

[DCBoysfan]

I would perfer to hear the details of his arrest before I suspend him 4 games, but thats just me.:rolleyes:

[M'Kevon]

I'd like to give Goose the maximum penalty.

But I'd settle not to see or hear his name again. :cool:

[FLcowboy]

Ridiculous rush to judgment IMHO.


Yeah, I haven't heard of the circumstances yet, and already Goose wants to cut the guy.

[Erik_H]

Yeah, I haven't heard of the circumstances yet, and already Goose wants to cut the guy.

You know Goose just threw a party when the news of this broke. His articles just wrote themselves for the next few months.

[wittenacious]

I would perfer to hear the details of his arrest before I suspend him 4 games, but thats just me.:rolleyes:
Not only you... me, too. My assault charge story:

I had police come to an apartment I lived in for a brief period in Boise, Idaho, asking me about an assault complaint that had been called in on me. This was all over a shopping cart...

The 70 unit complex had 1 shopping cart the owner had put in the underground parking garage, for people moving in or out, or taking groceries up to their apartments, whatever. The day I was moving out, I check and it's there. I take it up to my place to use, leaving it outside my door while I went inside to make some iced tea, for the work ahead.

Knock on the door. My daughter answered it... then, "Dad, there's a man that wants to talk to you." I come to and see a 250+ pound guy with the cart, ready to walk away. I asked, "What's goin' on?" He says, "I'm moving in and I've been looking everywhere for this for the last 20 minutes, so I'm taking it." I said, "Well, first... no you're not. I'm using it to move out, that's why it's here. Second, I've only had it for about 5 minutes, so you're lying about the 20 minutes."

He made some noise... a grunt or something... rolled his eyes and started to walk away w/ the cart. I reacted by catching up with him, walking alongside him and trying to reason with the guy. He just ignored me and kept walking to the elevator with the cart. When he pushed the button to go back down, I firmly said, "Look, you're not taking the cart!"

Now I'm not an overly big guy, but adequate. At the time, I went 6'0", 200... no Mr. Universe but solid enough.

As the elevator door opened, he made a move to go inside... with cart, of course. No more words. I just grabbed the cart with one hand, and helped him into the elevator with the other, parting the two of them. He stumbles and almost goes to the floor. Standing up straight, he then comes towards me, looking to take the cart back.

Now, I probably should have been the bigger man... figuratively speaking of course... but this rude bastid had my dander up. As he reached for the cart, I let it go and bull rushed him, shoving him with both hands to his chest. I helped him to the elevator floor that time. He looked stunned, but got himself up and started screaming like a little girl, "You're an animal! You're an animal! I'm calling the manager. I'm calling the cops." I just walked off, cart in hand, as he dialed his cell phone. Police come to my door... "Sir, may we speak to you?"

I said, "Yes, come on in."

One of the two officers began, "Sir, we got a call from a neighbor or yours who said you assaulted him. Can you tell us what happened?"

"Well," I said, "first can you tell me the legal definition of assault?"

The officer answered, "Assault can be anything that involves touching another person in a way they don't want or like."

I answered, "Then I'd say this. I did touch him and I think it's fair to say he didn't like it. You're here."

Then I proceeded to tell the police my side of the story.

The one officer's reply... "That's kind of what we thought. We talked to him, but he was pretty emotional. You looked us in the eye, you're calm, and we figured it wasn't quite like he told it. We appreciate you being straightforward about it." Then, "We are required to write you a citation, but I think that after the DA's office reads our report, you won't have anything to worry about. They probably won't do anything but if you do have to go to court, just tell the judge what you told us. I don't think you will be found guilty."

With that, they politely left... no arrest... wishing my daughter and me a good day.
Mail comes a week or so later. Letter from the DA's office. Bottom line, "We've read the complaint against you and find insufficient cause to pursue this assault charge any further. You are hereby notified you are cleared of all charges." Not verbatim, but that was the gist of it.

So, being accused isn't always guilty as charged. We all know it, but the natural impulse is to think the charges likely have merit. In my case... technically, I assaulted the guy... but obviously it was deemed to have been provoked, justifiable and not considered overboard in that situation.

Hope Dez has a compelling story. He may have just pushed the female. He may have grabbed her. I know I've wanted to shut many a female up who has gotten in my face, so to speak, started gettin' mouthy assuming there was nothing I would do about it... not physically, anyway. They've all been right about that. But I thought about it.

A man assaulting a woman... touching her inappropriately, pushing her, hitting her... worse... never appears justified, particularly not at first glance. Not saying it couldn't be, but being accused of assault against a woman would put a guy behind the 8-ball from the very start of the explanation process and it would most likely stay a stigma attached to him, no matter the final outcome.

So, DCBoysfan, like you, I'll wait for more facts to come to light. If he's found guilty, that will suck... but that will be the time for getting on the guy, IMO.

I'm hoping for the best but no matter what actually happened, may the truth win out.

[Zimmy Lives]

Yeah, I haven't heard of the circumstances yet, and already Goose wants to cut the guy.

What circumstances? The guy was arrested! What more do you want?

It's not as if he was serving bad food to the poor at some street corner shelter. The guy could possibly face time in jail so who cares about the "circumstances."

For once I also agree with the Goose and feel someone needs to send this idiot a serious message. Alas, I think it would be for naught since the guy appears to display sociopathic behavior and may never respond.

[erod]

Look, when you draft Dez Bryant, which 20 teams passed on before Jerry jumped in with both feet, this is what you get.

This is what he is. This is what he's ALWAYS been, since his days as a problem child athlete in high school. Same crap in college, same crap in the pros.

It's stupid to think he would ever be anything different. You can't teach rhythm or class, and you can't fix stupid.

Suspending him is pointless. You keep him and deal with it, or you cut him loose. This is what the guy is.

[king a]

How is that a ridiculous rush to judgement he beat up his mom. :bang2:

[wittenacious]

How is that a ridiculous rush to judgement he beat up his mom. :bang2:
His mom was pushed, slapped across the face and had her hair pulled. That's what I just read on PFT and heard on NFLN.

Not what I would call beating her up, exactly, but it never sounds right to have it said you hit your mom. If she was shouting and coming at him, I can see him reacting to stop it. Should have just left, though, rather than getting physical... unless she was waiving a knife or something.

His mom is no angel, we've all heard... druggie, etc. ... Bryant’s mother, Angela Bryant, has had a number of run-ins with the law (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5159981), including spending 18 months in prison during Dez’s childhood for selling crack cocaine. Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland caused a stir at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine for asking Bryant if his mother was a prostitute.

Read more: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/17/dez-bryants-arrest-came-after-pushing-his-mother/

Facts are coming to light. Not good.

[Wrangler87]

Dez Bryant is a complete idiot. Bottom line. He's just another in the long list of Cowboys that I am forced to cheer for because he is a Cowboy, but I really can't stand him.

I agree with some posters, lets hear the details. But if the details prove that there was at least probable cause for his arrest, I say it's time to cut ties with this guy before he really embarasses this franchise.

[ragman]

I agree with Gosselin. Suspend him for 4 games, without pay. If he messes up again, it's goodbye and good riddance. You just can't have this.

[cowboy_ron]

It is a painful day when I actually agree with Goose.....:bang2:
I'm still waiting for that day

[wittenacious]

I'm still waiting for that day
:laugh2:... Hard man to agree with these days, isn't he?

You still on vaca and just checkin' in, or are you back in Vegas already?

[CCBoy]

When asked a question about Bryant’s off-the-field growth during the Cowboys’ minicamp in June, team owner and general manager Jerry Jones was unwilling to declare him a finished product despite the fact his name had been out of the headlines for months.

“As soon as you note that, the next morning, you’ve got one,” Jones said. “For anybody - I’m not talking about Dez . . . I’m just talking about in general - I’m just reluctant to comment about off-the-field with any player, because things happen on their own volition. So, I don’t want to do that.”

Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Bryant’s legal trouble comes just two weeks before training camp, the beginning of a season in which the receiver has been expected to take a significant leap forward on the field.

“I do know one thing,” Jones said in June. “He is certainly different as far as his maturity level and as far as his understanding of what it takes to play in the National Football League than he was when he got here.”


http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/article-JoshEllisBlog/Jones-Was-Reluctant-To-Discuss-Bryant’s-Offseason-Maturation/db767c09-20e8-46f1-9914-bfaada703f9e

[cowboy_ron]

:laugh2:... Hard man to agree with these days, isn't he?

You still on vaca and just checkin' in, or are you back in Vegas already?
Sup wit? Naa, we got home last night...it was very relaxing, I needed that.

[SilverStarCowboy]

By SportsDayDFW sports
websports@dallasnews.com
9:28 pm on July 16, 2012 | Permalink
RICK GOSSELIN
Columnist

It’s time the Cowboys sat down Dez Bryant for the maximum. For the sake of the team and, frankly, for his own sake.

Bryant was arrested Monday on a domestic violence charge. It was his second run-in with the law this off-season . He also was involved in a brawl at a Miami Beach nightclub in January. There have been mall and jewelry incidents as well in his brief career with the Cowboys.

Bryant doesn’t get it. He never has and, if the Cowboys don’t take action at some point very soon, he never will.

Playing pro football is a privilege, not a right.


Though we all want to get our punches in, I feel dirty just reading that, Goose is a scumbag to believe his BS enough to pass judgement by printing that story in the public news paper without knowing all the facts...even if he's right.

[Avenger]

Ridiculous rush to judgment IMHO.

Absolutely correct.

I'm sick of these mediots AND fans that run off at the mouth before they really know anything. I also have a sneaking suspicion that if Dez were White... this "rush to judgment" wouldn't be taking place.

That's right... I said it.

[Eddie]

Too early to judge.

This is dirty journalism.

How about due process before we pass judgment.

[wittenacious]

Sup wit? Naa, we got home last night...it was very relaxing, I needed that.
Glad you got home safe and hopefully had a good time away. I see you're gettin' back in the flow... back in the Zone.

Good to have ya back. :)

[cowboy_ron]

Glad you got home safe and hopefully had a good time away. I see you're gettin' back in the flow... back in the Zone.

Good to have ya back. :)
Thanks man..glad to be back__I think.:D Seems the haters are out in full force today though

[Rynie]

Not only you... me, too. My assault charge story:

I had police come to an apartment I lived in for a brief period in Boise, Idaho, asking me about an assault complaint that had been called in on me. This was all over a shopping cart...

The 70 unit complex had 1 shopping cart the owner had put in the underground parking garage, for people moving in or out, or taking groceries up to their apartments, whatever. The day I was moving out, I check and it's there. I take it up to my place to use, leaving it outside my door while I went inside to make some iced tea, for the work ahead.

Knock on the door. My daughter answered it... then, "Dad, there's a man that wants to talk to you." I come to and see a 250+ pound guy with the cart, ready to walk away. I asked, "What's goin' on?" He says, "I'm moving in and I've been looking everywhere for this for the last 20 minutes, so I'm taking it." I said, "Well, first... no you're not. I'm using it to move out, that's why it's here. Second, I've only had it for about 5 minutes, so you're lying about the 20 minutes."

He made some noise... a grunt or something... rolled his eyes and started to walk away w/ the cart. I reacted by catching up with him, walking alongside him and trying to reason with the guy. He just ignored me and kept walking to the elevator with the cart. When he pushed the button to go back down, I firmly said, "Look, you're not taking the cart!"

Now I'm not an overly big guy, but adequate. At the time, I went 6'0", 200... no Mr. Universe but solid enough.

As the elevator door opened, he made a move to go inside... with cart, of course. No more words. I just grabbed the cart with one hand, and helped him into the elevator with the other, parting the two of them. He stumbles and almost goes to the floor. Standing up straight, he then comes towards me, looking to take the cart back.


Now, I probably should have been the bigger man... figuratively speaking of course... but this rude bastid had my dander up. As he reached for the cart, I let it go and bull rushed him, shoving him with both hands to his chest. I helped him to the elevator floor that time. He looked stunned, but got himself up and started screaming like a little girl, "You're an animal! You're an animal! I'm calling the manager. I'm calling the cops." I just walked off, cart in hand, as he dialed his cell phone. Police come to my door... "Sir, may we speak to you?"


I said, "Yes, come on in."


One of the two officers began, "Sir, we got a call from a neighbor or yours who said you assaulted him. Can you tell us what happened?"


"Well," I said, "first can you tell me the legal definition of assault?"


The officer answered, "Assault can be anything that involves touching another person in a way they don't want or like."


I answered, "Then I'd say this. I did touch him and I think it's fair to say he didn't like it. You're here."


Then I proceeded to tell the police my side of the story.


The one officer's reply... "That's kind of what we thought. We talked to him, but he was pretty emotional. You looked us in the eye, you're calm, and we figured it wasn't quite like he told it. We appreciate you being straightforward about it." Then, "We are required to write you a citation, but I think that after the DA's office reads our report, you won't have anything to worry about. They probably won't do anything but if you do have to go to court, just tell the judge what you told us. I don't think you will be found guilty."


With that, they politely left... no arrest... wishing my daughter and me a good day.
Mail comes a week or so later. Letter from the DA's office. Bottom line, "We've read the complaint against you and find insufficient cause to pursue this assault charge any further. You are hereby notified you are cleared of all charges." Not verbatim, but that was the gist of it.

So, being accused isn't always guilty as charged. We all know it, but the natural impulse is to think the charges likely have merit. In my case... technically, I assaulted the guy... but obviously it was deemed to have been provoked, justifiable and not considered overboard in that situation.

Hope Dez has a compelling story. He may have just pushed the female. He may have grabbed her. I know I've wanted to shut many a female up who has gotten in my face, so to speak, started gettin' mouthy assuming there was nothing I would do about it... not physically, anyway. They've all been right about that. But I thought about it.

A man assaulting a woman... touching her inappropriately, pushing her, hitting her... worse... never appears justified, particularly not at first glance. Not saying it couldn't be, but being accused of assault against a woman would put a guy behind the 8-ball from the very start of the explanation process and it would most likely stay a stigma attached to him, no matter the final outcome.

So, DCBoysfan, like you, I'll wait for more facts to come to light. If he's found guilty, that will suck... but that will be the time for getting on the guy, IMO.

I'm hoping for the best but no matter what actually happened, may the truth win out.


Awesome story. I hate that people think they can just do stuff like this without consequence.

[wittenacious]

Thanks man..glad to be back__I think.:D Seems the haters are out in full force today though
Reality and some of the mods have told me it gets really crazy... really busy around here the closer TC comes. Based on what I've been told, I'm anticipating a wild ride, the likes of which we never saw on TB.

I'm sure you've been through it but, as you know, I just started posting this past Feb, after the Super Bowl, so all of my experience has been offseason interaction so far. I've been putting in the offseason work so I'd be ready for the opening of the floodgates come Training Camp... the mega-posting kickoff and precursor to the regular season volume.

Lookin' forward to it.

At least the trolls get swept out of here... pronto!... like in the blink of an eye by comparison to True Blue. You told me it was that way here. Incredibly well run site... CZ is... with great, fair play policing of the boards, IMO.

[wittenacious]

Awesome story. I hate that people think they can just do stuff like this without consequence.
Appreciate it.

Me, too... obviously, lol. Mouthy, ignorant people have a way of setting me off. I'm no tough-guy for tough-guy's sake, but I will usually go towards confrontation, if I think it's justified, rather than turn away from it.

Can't stand moronic people, particularly when they're being offensive. I feel compelled to let them have my opinion about how much of a moron I think they are being. I'm more like that in real life than I am here on the boards, anyway. I'm really not much into the whole computer tough guy thing at all. Too much talk. I talk a fair amount, in general, but the conversation gets real short when it's go time.

I don't go looking for trouble, but for some reason I choose not to shy away from what I consider out of line behavior.

[Fla Cowpoke]

Hilarious that people are ready to jump on the words of a crack ho drug dealer on 10 years of probation as gospel.

In all likelihood, Mom instigated the argument, Dez may have grabbed her to either move her out of the way or get her out of his face and now he's a criminal.

Let the facts come out before you demand blood. If he instigated the argument and got out of hand, then punish him. But at least let due process happen first.

I witnessed an altercation between one of my son's friends and his mother the other day in a public place. My son is 16, as is his friend. The friend is the kindest, gentlest kid I know. He is incredibly soft spoken....I always have to ask him to speak up when he is talking. He was been friends with my son for 3-4 years

Anyhow, he lives with his mother and his sister. His mother was actually a class mate of mine from high school...I didn't even know she was this boy's mother until about 6 months ago. In high school, she was known to be a girl that wouldn't back down from anyone and was involved in drugs and alcohol. I don't know what has occurred in the 25 years since I went to high school with her, but I can say I doubt much has changed with her lifestyle. She is divorced, doesn't work and says she can't get a job, despite the fact that she has no physical or mental problems and I haven't seen her attempt to try to secure a job. She apparently gets some kind of welfare and some child support, which she uses to buy alcohol and cigarettes. She is living with the two kids in a small camper in a person's back yard, barely paying rent. The camper is literally maybe 8 feet wide by 25 feet long....definitely smaller than a standard hotel room.

Her kids basically live with friends during the week...as we speak he is staying at our house....has been there since Friday night and I am not sure when he is leaving.

Anyhow, we were at a public event the other night where her son performed in a band. After the event, we were waiting as the kids tore down equipment and one of the other kids there called her son a nickname that she doesn't like. He doesn't mind the nickname. She immediately called her son over to her and proceeded to verbally berate him because the other kid called him a nickname she doesn't like and he didn't tell them to stop or not do it. She literally went off the deep end, screaming that she knows she is a f'ing C*** and that is just tough for him and she can stop him from doing anything and can make his life miserable. She got into his face and while she never touched him, it was appalling to see.

Seeing this, I can see how Dez's situation could have very well been something similar. His Mom is a known lunatic.

Before people go off the deep end and ask for him to be punished to the most severe extent, let's at least give him his due process. So far, we haven't seen any comments from him and we haven't seen any statements from others that were there...the only thing that has been released is her side.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Hilarious that people are ready to jump on the words of a crack ho drug dealer on 10 years of probation as gospel.

In all likelihood, Mom instigated the argument, Dez may have grabbed her to either move her out of the way or get her out of his face and now he's a criminal.

Let the facts come out before you demand blood. If he instigated the argument and got out of hand, then punish him. But at least let due process happen first.

I witnessed an altercation between one of my son's friends and his mother the other day in a public place. My son is 16, as is his friend. The friend is the kindest, gentlest kid I know. He is incredibly soft spoken....I always have to ask him to speak up when he is talking. He was been friends with my son for 3-4 years

Anyhow, he lives with his mother and his sister. His mother was actually a class mate of mine from high school...I didn't even know she was this boy's mother until about 6 months ago. In high school, she was known to be a girl that wouldn't back down from anyone and was involved in drugs and alcohol. I don't know what has occurred in the 25 years since I went to high school with her, but I can say I doubt much has changed with her lifestyle. She is divorced, doesn't work and says she can't get a job, despite the fact that she has no physical or mental problems and I haven't seen her attempt to try to secure a job. She apparently gets some kind of welfare and some child support, which she uses to buy alcohol and cigarettes. She is living with the two kids in a small camper in a person's back yard, barely paying rent. The camper is literally maybe 8 feet wide by 25 feet long....definitely smaller than a standard hotel room.

Her kids basically live with friends during the week...as we speak he is staying at our house....has been there since Friday night and I am not sure when he is leaving.

Anyhow, we were at a public event the other night where her son performed in a band. After the event, we were waiting as the kids tore down equipment and one of the other kids there called her son a nickname that she doesn't like. He doesn't mind the nickname. She immediately called her son over to her and proceeded to verbally berate him because the other kid called him a nickname she doesn't like and he didn't tell them to stop or not do it. She literally went off the deep end, screaming that she knows she is a f'ing C*** and that is just tough for him and she can stop him from doing anything and can make his life miserable. She got into his face and while she never touched him, it was appalling to see.

Seeing this, I can see how Dez's situation could have very well been something similar. His Mom is a known lunatic.

Before people go off the deep end and ask for him to be punished to the most severe extent, let's at least give him his due process. So far, we haven't seen any comments from him and we haven't seen any statements from others that were there...the only thing that has been released is her side.


One day that kid will have the ball in his court of staying away from the abuse, and since it is his mother there will be even more to overcome.

Surely some have wonderful parents and family that aren't abusive but for the rest that don't, healthy realationships can be hard to find.

[jobberone]

Good Grief!

[T-RO]

I agree with Gosselin. Suspend him for 4 games, without pay. If he messes up again, it's goodbye and good riddance. You just can't have this.

This.

So many fool fans around here camped along the river D'Nile. And this is the same crowd that made excuse after excuse for TOxic.

One of the guys on the NFL network (Mashall Faulk?) said it best: "Believe a guy the first time...when he tells you what and who he is. Believe him the first time."

Some actions are declarations of character. Ah heck! Dez has been shouting out his worthlessness through an endless array of misdeeds since day 1.

[T-RO]

Hilarious that people are ready to jump on the words of a crack ho drug dealer on 10 years of probation as gospel.

In all likelihood, Mom instigated the argument, Dez may have grabbed her to either move her out of the way or get her out of his face and now he's a criminal...


I appreciate you trying to see people in context and give a little grace, but the reality is that Dez is acting just like his dysfunctional mom and dad. And the details of this case don't entirely matter.

Dez was ***previously*** a criminal by trying to skate with jewelry he wouldn't pay for. That's no different than criminal shoplifting. He gets into troubles wherever he goes...

Do you think for a minute we've heard even half of what's gone down with this guy?

[faninjersey]

Not only you... me, too. My assault charge story:

I had police come to an apartment I lived in for a brief period in Boise, Idaho, asking me about an assault complaint that had been called in on me. This was all over a shopping cart...

The 70 unit complex had 1 shopping cart the owner had put in the underground parking garage, for people moving in or out, or taking groceries up to their apartments, whatever. The day I was moving out, I check and it's there. I take it up to my place to use, leaving it outside my door while I went inside to make some iced tea, for the work ahead.

Knock on the door. My daughter answered it... then, "Dad, there's a man that wants to talk to you." I come to and see a 250+ pound guy with the cart, ready to walk away. I asked, "What's goin' on?" He says, "I'm moving in and I've been looking everywhere for this for the last 20 minutes, so I'm taking it." I said, "Well, first... no you're not. I'm using it to move out, that's why it's here. Second, I've only had it for about 5 minutes, so you're lying about the 20 minutes."

He made some noise... a grunt or something... rolled his eyes and started to walk away w/ the cart. I reacted by catching up with him, walking alongside him and trying to reason with the guy. He just ignored me and kept walking to the elevator with the cart. When he pushed the button to go back down, I firmly said, "Look, you're not taking the cart!"

Now I'm not an overly big guy, but adequate. At the time, I went 6'0", 200... no Mr. Universe but solid enough.

As the elevator door opened, he made a move to go inside... with cart, of course. No more words. I just grabbed the cart with one hand, and helped him into the elevator with the other, parting the two of them. He stumbles and almost goes to the floor. Standing up straight, he then comes towards me, looking to take the cart back.

Now, I probably should have been the bigger man... figuratively speaking of course... but this rude bastid had my dander up. As he reached for the cart, I let it go and bull rushed him, shoving him with both hands to his chest. I helped him to the elevator floor that time. He looked stunned, but got himself up and started screaming like a little girl, "You're an animal! You're an animal! I'm calling the manager. I'm calling the cops." I just walked off, cart in hand, as he dialed his cell phone. Police come to my door... "Sir, may we speak to you?"

I said, "Yes, come on in."

One of the two officers began, "Sir, we got a call from a neighbor or yours who said you assaulted him. Can you tell us what happened?"

"Well," I said, "first can you tell me the legal definition of assault?"

The officer answered, "Assault can be anything that involves touching another person in a way they don't want or like."

I answered, "Then I'd say this. I did touch him and I think it's fair to say he didn't like it. You're here."

Then I proceeded to tell the police my side of the story.

The one officer's reply... "That's kind of what we thought. We talked to him, but he was pretty emotional. You looked us in the eye, you're calm, and we figured it wasn't quite like he told it. We appreciate you being straightforward about it." Then, "We are required to write you a citation, but I think that after the DA's office reads our report, you won't have anything to worry about. They probably won't do anything but if you do have to go to court, just tell the judge what you told us. I don't think you will be found guilty."

With that, they politely left... no arrest... wishing my daughter and me a good day.
Mail comes a week or so later. Letter from the DA's office. Bottom line, "We've read the complaint against you and find insufficient cause to pursue this assault charge any further. You are hereby notified you are cleared of all charges." Not verbatim, but that was the gist of it.

So, being accused isn't always guilty as charged. We all know it, but the natural impulse is to think the charges likely have merit. In my case... technically, I assaulted the guy... but obviously it was deemed to have been provoked, justifiable and not considered overboard in that situation.

Hope Dez has a compelling story. He may have just pushed the female. He may have grabbed her. I know I've wanted to shut many a female up who has gotten in my face, so to speak, started gettin' mouthy assuming there was nothing I would do about it... not physically, anyway. They've all been right about that. But I thought about it.

A man assaulting a woman... touching her inappropriately, pushing her, hitting her... worse... never appears justified, particularly not at first glance. Not saying it couldn't be, but being accused of assault against a woman would put a guy behind the 8-ball from the very start of the explanation process and it would most likely stay a stigma attached to him, no matter the final outcome.

So, DCBoysfan, like you, I'll wait for more facts to come to light. If he's found guilty, that will suck... but that will be the time for getting on the guy, IMO.

I'm hoping for the best but no matter what actually happened, may the truth win out.

Very well stated. At some point, prior to rushing to a verdict, people should equally evaluate the character of his mother. He has a very troubling and unfortunately unique family structure. He should have his fair say in the court room, and the court of public opinion.

[BraveHeartFan]

I'll want to wait and see what shakes out of this whole Dez mess before I rush to any punishment ideas but I will give Goose credit here. He wrote a pretty solid piece and if Dez is guilty of anything that has been accused here then Goose has wrote what I feel is a pretty solid reason for giving Dez the 4 game suspension.


Of course that all depends on what actually happened in this incident.

[el_chevo]

Shut up, GOSSELIN... go back to being a largely ineffective media clown with the writing skills of a sixth grader. Wait until the facts surface before rendering judgement.

[Fla Cowpoke]

He deserves his day in court, but this won't ever make it and charges will get dropped.

[wittenacious]

Very well stated. At some point, prior to rushing to a verdict, people should equally evaluate the character of his mother. He has a very troubling and unfortunately unique family structure. He should have his fair say in the court room, and the court of public opinion.
Thanks.

And I agree with what you said. The part in bold?... especially by Cowboys fans, you'd like to think.

[dirt]

Gosselin bores me....he is just copying the hyper critical writing style of the skip bayless' of the media world. Lob up a scathing over the top critical piece on whatever topic and sit back an watch the readers react....bla bla bla
Its been done already...think up an original gig gooselin

[ravidubey]

Goodell will suspend Bryant and rightfully so. You just can't push women around, end of story.

And I don't care if she is a crackhead, you don't push your mother.

Dez has serious issues he must work out. I hope Goodell forces Bryant into monitored counceling at the Cowboys' expense and fines the Hell out of Bryant.

Unfortunately for Bryant to get better, I think he needs to work.

But if I were commissioner after an interview if I felt Bryant just didn't get it, I'd suspend him in addition to the fine.

[casmith07]

I'd like to give Goose the maximum penalty.

But I'd settle not to see or hear his name again. :cool:

Zeus alive, this.

[DallasEast]

I say we lift off and bomb Dez from orbit.









It's the only way to be sure.

[dreghorn2]

I say we lift off and bomb Dez from orbit.




It's the only way to be sure.



LOL... :laugh2:

[BoysFan4ever]

I am kind of at this point with Dez. If I hear a news blurb about a Cowboy in trouble I just presume it will be his name they call out. He's a troubled guy. I would try to get rid of him. But they probably won't.

[CowboysYanksLakers]

I'm sorry I'm selfish let the ******* play until the league steps in.

[Sarge]

I am kind of at this point with Dez. If I hear a news blurb about a Cowboy in trouble I just presume it will be his name they call out. He's a troubled guy. I would try to get rid of him. But they probably won't.

Well....now is not the time to get rid of him unless your happy with gettin' a ham sammitch for him.

[mmillman]

what a thug, trade him if you can, cut him if you can't. Dallas, as a team, is better off in the long run without idiots like this.

Jerruh should learn by now that hiring idiot WR's like this doesn't pay off in the end.

Now that I think of it Jerruh has screwed up almost every WR move I can remember.

Starting with cutting Jimmy Smith (maybe Johnson, not sure)
two #1's for Galloway
Owens was a cancer
Roy Williams and a first round pick
Dez Bryant and a first round pick

That is 4 first round picks, a third round if memory serves and bunch of trouble and money with Owens in free agency. Not much return for all that IMHO.

[BoysFan4ever]

Well....now is not the time to get rid of him unless your happy with gettin' a ham sammitch for him.

I don't think they will even try to get rid of him but I would. JMO. Not worth the baggage. But the league is full of troubled guys so this is not an exclusive thing only the Cowboys deal with. Stupid has spread league wise!

[DFWJC]

I would perfer to hear the details of his arrest before I suspend him 4 games, but thats just me.:rolleyes:

I agree, but he did not say suspend him 4 games, but 4 weeks.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Stupid has spread league wise!


That's nothing knew.

[Yakuza Rich]

What circumstances? The guy was arrested! What more do you want?

It's not as if he was serving bad food to the poor at some street corner shelter. The guy could possibly face time in jail so who cares about the "circumstances."

For once I also agree with the Goose and feel someone needs to send this idiot a serious message. Alas, I think it would be for naught since the guy appears to display sociopathic behavior and may never respond.

It was a minor assault charge which means that simply brushing somebody aside could be considered assault. I've see girls hit a guy, who is roughly 3 times their size, with an open hand on the arm because the guy was being an arse and the girl gets arrested even though that 'hit' could not have hurt a fly, much less a guy 3 times their size.

In some states, spitting on somebody is considered an assault. In others, it's not.

The list goes on and on.

I just want to find out the truth and judge from there. I like to be informed before I make decisions on somebody. Doesn't mean that in the end I don't think Dez should be severely punished, but I need more to the story than this before I start acting like an overreactive Goose.







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[DFWJC]

That opening game at New York is looking more and more like an "L"

You never know though.
In any case....This sux.

[Blast From The Past]

His mom was pushed, slapped across the face and had her hair pulled. That's what I just read on PFT and heard on NFLN.

Not what I would call beating her up, exactly, but it never sounds right to have it said you hit your mom. If she was shouting and coming at him, I can see him reacting to stop it. Should have just left, though, rather than getting physical... unless she was waiving a knife or something.



His mom is no angel, we've all heard... druggie, etc. ... Bryant’s mother, Angela Bryant, has had a number of run-ins with the law (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5159981), including spending 18 months in prison during Dez’s childhood for selling crack cocaine. Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland caused a stir at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine for asking Bryant if his mother was a prostitute.

Read more: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/17/dez-bryants-arrest-came-after-pushing-his-mother/
Facts are coming to light. Not good.I read he was in a argument with his half brother when his mom got involved at some point and told Dez to leave and apparently he chose not to and at some point became violent towards her. This was a heated situation and esculated with raw emotions that Dez put absolutely no thought into. He probably needs to stay away from family for his sake because clearly they can't get along.