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07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
Dez Bryant's mom alleges assault

Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant was arrested Monday after he allegedly assaulted his mother, Angela, on Saturday, according to DeSoto police Captain Ron Smith.

According to the incident report, Bryant became angry when his mother asked him to leave her home during an argument Saturday afternoon. Initially, at a Tuesday news conference, Smith said Bryant slapped his mother in the face, but the police report, which was released later Tuesday, clarified that Bryant allegedly grabbed her by her T-shirt and hair and "hit her across the face with his ball cap."

Angela Bryant, whose T-shirt and bra were allegedly torn during the incident, indicated on the 911 call that this was not the first time she was assaulted by her son.

"I can't keep letting him do this," said Angela Bryant, who made the call from the nearby home of family friend and adviser David Wells. "I can't keep letting him do me like this. I'm tired. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm tired."

Read Full Article (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8173444/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-allegedly-assaulted-mom-police-say)

SilverStarCowboy
07-17-2012, 11:55 AM
She might be trying to get paid, so he needs to realize (though it will hurt) she is not his friend. She called the Po Po after provoking him, she's a loser mom at best, stay away from her an your 'family Dez.

Dez, the entire Organization and Fans are here for you to lean on, we are all here to help you overcome if not replace that disfunction you call a family.


Normal people that go through this don't have such an option.

rocboy22
07-17-2012, 11:56 AM
She might be trying to get paid, so he needs to realize (though it will hurt) she is not his friend. She called the Po Po after provoking him, she's a loser mom at best, stay away from her an your family Dez.

Dez, the entire Organization and Fans are here to be here for you, we are all here to help you overcome if not replace that disfunction you call a family.

if she is trying to get paid, she is a moron. what good is getting Dez arrested and possibly suspended going to do? he probably doesnt have much cash now from all the previous reports about him, hurting his chances for a monster second contract are about as dumb as it gets if you want money from him...

Cowboy Junkie
07-17-2012, 12:09 PM
It is hard to say what has happened here. wrist and arms swelling would tell me her wrist and arms were grabbed and not hit.

Dez mom doesnt get any awards for motherhood thats for sure.

no matter the outcome it sucks. Very quiet offseason and now the horrible Dallas media has something to sink their teeth into.

WoodysGirl
07-17-2012, 12:09 PM
Well now that the ball is rolling, my suggestion to her is to distance herself from him. If that means moving out on her own and supporting herself, then that's what she needs to do.

As for him, he needs to let everything play out in court. Unless the DA is looking to make a name for him/herself, then this will probably be settled out of court with him getting probation/community service, or something.

Disclaimer: I'm no attorney, but I've watched several crime shows to know how they work. ;)

Teague31
07-17-2012, 12:20 PM
I am an attorney. The vast majority of domestics never result in conviction cause the alleged victim refuses to cooperate when the time comes

CrazyCowboy
07-17-2012, 12:43 PM
Dez Bryant's mom alleges assault

Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant was arrested Monday after he allegedly assaulted his mother, Angela, on Saturday, according to DeSoto police Captain Ron Smith.

According to the incident report, Bryant became angry when his mother asked him to leave her home during an argument Saturday afternoon. Initially, at a Tuesday news conference, Smith said Bryant slapped his mother in the face, but the police report, which was released later Tuesday, clarified that Bryant allegedly grabbed her by her T-shirt and hair and "hit her across the face with his ball cap."

Angela Bryant, whose T-shirt and bra were allegedly torn during the incident, indicated on the 911 call that this was not the first time she was assaulted by her son.

"I can't keep letting him do this," said Angela Bryant, who made the call from the nearby home of family friend and adviser David Wells. "I can't keep letting him do me like this. I'm tired. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm tired."

Read Full Article (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8173444/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-allegedly-assaulted-mom-police-say)

Pimping ain't easy..........:)

speedkilz88
07-17-2012, 12:45 PM
She might be trying to get paid, so he needs to realize (though it will hurt) she is not his friend. She called the Po Po after provoking him, she's a loser mom at best, stay away from her an your 'family Dez.

Dez, the entire Organization and Fans are here for you to lean on, we are all here to help you overcome if not replace that disfunction you call a family.


Normal people that go through this don't have such an option.

if she is trying to get paid, she is a moron. what good is getting Dez arrested and possibly suspended going to do? he probably doesnt have much cash now from all the previous reports about him, hurting his chances for a monster second contract are about as dumb as it gets if you want money from him...
It's possible this incident is due to him cutting her off.

boysfanindc
07-17-2012, 12:57 PM
It's possible this incident is due to him cutting her off.

Could be or it could be him trying to get her off the drugs or maybe she was stealing from him.

Or maybe he was just having a bad day.

The point is at this point no one knows what started it or what really happened, I say we hold judgement until the facts come out.

fortdick
07-17-2012, 01:00 PM
Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.

MichaelWinicki
07-17-2012, 01:08 PM
Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.

I agree.

But I think these are folks with a whole different mindset when it comes the traditional mother-son thing.

rocboy22
07-17-2012, 01:12 PM
Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.

you have no idea what actually happened. you can choose to say screw him and act like he is guilty, or you can reserve judgement until all the facts come out. which seems more reasonable to you?

Aikbach
07-17-2012, 01:12 PM
Innocent until proven guilty, could've been self defense, but if the allegations are true, prosecute him and cut him from the team.

wittenacious
07-17-2012, 01:27 PM
Could be or it could be him trying to get her off the drugs or maybe she was stealing from him.

Or maybe he was just having a bad day.

The point is at this point no one knows what started it or what really happened, I say we hold judgement until the facts come out.
Good points.

I agree that we shouldn't rush to judgement, especially considering Dez's mom's background. She doesn't strike me as some innocent here. JMO.

Never helps when family is involved, in general, especially if there are dysfunctional relationships at play.

Family knows how to push one-another's buttons. Dez didn't do what he did in a vacuum. Not saying he should have done what he's accused of, but I can see how it could easily happen.

Hook'em#11
07-17-2012, 01:30 PM
Sweet..

Superbowl Bound now baby...

Fla Cowpoke
07-17-2012, 01:51 PM
Good points.

I agree that we shouldn't rush to judgement, especially considering Dez's mom's background. She doesn't strike me as some innocent here. JMO.

Never helps when family is involved, in general, especially if there are dysfunctional relationships at play.

Family knows how to push one-another's buttons. Dez didn't do what he did in a vacuum. Not saying he should have done what he's accused of, but I can see how it could easily happen.

Let's see, she is crack ho arrested multiple times for dealing and has lied her way through life, but suddenly now she is a law abiding citizen whose word is gospel?

She is like Mike Vick, who recently reported he lied and planned to lie his whole way through the dog fighting scheme until he found out how airtight the case was against him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/michael-vick-intended-lie-way-dogfighting-scandal-093120556--nfl.html

Some people are so friggin gullible it isn't funny.

Muhast
07-17-2012, 01:59 PM
I agree.

But I think these are folks with a whole different mindset when it comes the traditional mother-son thing.


I am not sure if you've ever been around a drug addict( like as in a family member) but it is a scary thing to be around. They lie, cheat, steal, do things you'd never think a person who cared about you would do, as long as they get their next fix. Thats all they care about. It is entirely possible she was on drugs, he grabbed her wrist to restrain her from hitting him or leaving the area to possibly hurt herself more. As far as hitting her with his hat and shoving her, we have no idea if that is true or not, what we do know is that drug addicts lie. They lie about pretty much everything. If she really battled with Crack in her life, there is a great chance for relapse. I could completely off on this, but I have a close family member who suffers from drug addictions, and I've seen her do things to her own family members that you would not believe. I've heard her threaten to kill herself so they physically restrained her, and then her tell everybody the next day that her family was beating her, which was 100% false.

I tend to side against what a drug addict says most of the time. If you want to take her word for it, that's fine. But I've been around it, I know what goes on behind the doors unfortunately. To me this sounds exactly like a drug related situation, even if she wasn't on drugs at the time. She could have been going through withdraw or threatening to go out and get some.

speedkilz88
07-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.
Unless you were there you don't know what happened. Nothing may of happened or she could have been the aggressor and he could have refrained her or she could have been high. People do get falsely accused in these situations and stories embellished. I've seen it happen.

Risen Star
07-17-2012, 02:22 PM
you have no idea what actually happened. you can choose to say screw him and act like he is guilty, or you can reserve judgement until all the facts come out. which seems more reasonable to you?

What would you do if this was DeSean Jackson being arrested for this?

Would you be reserving judgement?

So far I've dimed Dez Bryant. Right down to his family being his own worst enemy.

Frozen700
07-17-2012, 02:22 PM
Could be or it could be him trying to get her off the drugs or maybe she was stealing from him.

Or maybe he was just having a bad day.

The point is at this point no one knows what started it or what really happened, I say we hold judgement until the facts come out.

Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.

If a parent is parading around like a child.....they deserve to get slapped up like you would your child. Especially if you love them

This cocaine sniffing mother, obviously has no good sense.

Maybe she screwed his friend? or a younger man? or she wont lay off the drugs? Or she is a bad influence on Bryants little siblings if he has any....

Mother or not...older or not...if you still act like a teenager, and your son or daughter is old enough to move out. Then you deserve to get disciplined. Why?

Because your not an adult.....who gives parents the right to abuse or hit their children? **** they deserve the same thing if you wanna act worthless

Muhast
07-17-2012, 02:23 PM
What would you do if this was DeSean Jackson being arrested for this?

Would you be reserving judgement?

So far I've dimed Dez Bryant. Right down to his family being his own worst enemy.


I think you are dead on with that assessment. he needs to cut his family and friends out of his life and find better people to surround himself, or he'll wind up like Pacman.

Frozen700
07-17-2012, 02:28 PM
All in All....a mother like that...Dez should go the Eminem Route...flip the birds to her, and cut her off....for life!

gambit187
07-17-2012, 02:30 PM
If a parent is parading around like a child.....they deserve to get slapped up like you would your child. Especially if you love them

This cocaine sniffing mother, obviously has no good sense.

Maybe she screwed his friend? or a younger man? or she wont lay off the drugs? Or she is a bad influence on Bryants little siblings if he has any....

Mother or not...older or not...if you still act like a teenager, and your son or daughter is old enough to move out. Then you deserve to get disciplined. Why?

Because your not an adult.....who gives parents the right to abuse or hit their children? **** they deserve the same thing if you wanna act worthless

Alot of what you said could be true, but what you didnt say is this. All of what you said maybe weighing heavily on Dez's mind, ontop of trying to play in the NFL. Him trying to keep his mom straight and on the right path could really be taking a toll on him causing him to snap. Here maybe a young man trying to help this team win, trying to get a new contract, trying to move on but in the back of his mind his know his mom is messing up which eventually mess him up...unless he leaves her alone....thats hard for any human being that truely loves their momma.



GREAT POST FROZEN

Risen Star
07-17-2012, 02:30 PM
I think you are dead on with that assessment. he needs to cut his family and friends out of his life and find better people to surround himself, or he'll wind up like Pacman.

It's a sad story. You shouldn't have to cut your family out of anything.

I'm just hoping we can squeeze another year of pretty good production out of him before Goodell ends up giving him the commish backhand.

You know it's coming. Dumb guy surrounded by bad influences.

rocboy22
07-17-2012, 02:31 PM
What would you do if this was DeSean Jackson being arrested for this?

Would you be reserving judgement?

So far I've dimed Dez Bryant. Right down to his family being his own worst enemy.

yes. that is what any person deserves. it's the rights given by our judicial system.

If it was Desean, I may HOPE he got in trouble (lol), but would not act as if I knew he did something and rag on him for it when it is first reported.

CowboyFan74
07-17-2012, 02:32 PM
Dez Brings New Meaning to Slap Ya Momma

Angela Bryant, 37.
Angela Bryant has a criminal record that includes multiple convictions on drug charges.

Well this explains why Dez is, "Immature" to some degree...

Young mother with checkered past, I dunno times are hard.

I doubt Dez will ever say why he, "slapped his momma."

This whole situation sucks to say the least....:o:

wittenacious
07-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Let's see, she is crack ho arrested multiple times for dealing and has lied her way through life, but suddenly now she is a law abiding citizen whose word is gospel?

She is like Mike Vick, who recently reported he lied and planned to lie his whole way through the dog fighting scheme until he found out how airtight the case was against him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/michael-vick-intended-lie-way-dogfighting-scandal-093120556--nfl.html

Some people are so friggin gullible it isn't funny.
She's a piece of work, alright.

That should count for something in choosing to give Dez the benefit of the doubt right now, IMO.

Risen Star
07-17-2012, 02:38 PM
yes. that is what any person deserves. it's the rights given by our judicial system.

If it was Desean, I may HOPE he got in trouble (lol), but would not act as if I knew he did something and rag on him for it when it is first reported.

Riiiiiiight.

gambit187
07-17-2012, 02:41 PM
She's a piece of work, alright.

That should count for something in choosing to give Dez the benefit of the doubt right now, IMO.

To me that counts for alot...this is not some Jeweler trying to take advantage of an immature kid because he knows he wants some flashy jewels and knows he will have the money to pay for it sooner or later.

This is a mentally week woman that did hard drugs, abandoned her kids, been arrested several times and did all sorts of foul stuff to feed her addiction....

Risen Star
07-17-2012, 02:42 PM
Somewhere in Miami, Jeff Ireland snickers.

Fla Cowpoke
07-17-2012, 02:44 PM
Riiiiiiight.

I think he is telling the truth.

Unless it was a guy I really despise, like Vick. Then I would be saying he should get the death penalty.

For someone else on another team, I would hope that he gets a fair judgement. That would not stop me from going to my friend's FB page that likes that team or player and bust his balls to no end.

Basically, I think as a fan of the team, Cowboy fans should support the team and players until PROVEN that they did something wrong. Not have them walk the plank at the first word of trouble.

Risen Star
07-17-2012, 02:51 PM
I think he is telling the truth.

Unless it was a guy I really despise, like Vick. Then I would be saying he should get the death penalty.

For someone else on another team, I would hope that he gets a fair judgement. That would not stop me from going to my friend's FB page that likes that team or player and bust his balls to no end.

Basically, I think as a fan of the team, Cowboy fans should support the team and players until PROVEN that they did something wrong. Not have them walk the plank at the first word of trouble.

I'm a different breed. I never player worship. I don't care about any of these players when they aren't in our uniform. I'm a fan of the logo and laundry.

I thought Dez was a ticking time bomb when we drafted him. He's too stupid and surrounded by too many bad influences. I just couldn't see how adding money into the equation was going to turn out well.

So this news wasn't shocking to me. If this was Witten, I'd be shocked and probably waiting for clarification. With Dez, he gets no benefit of the doubt from me since this is who I thought he was from the get go.

I just want to get the most out of him as possible before we need to move on.

Fla Cowpoke
07-17-2012, 02:57 PM
I don't player worship either, but I would give the benefit of the doubt to them all the same. Pretty much to anyone to be honest. If I went thinking everyone is a POS I think I would be a pretty miserable person.

fortdick
07-17-2012, 03:08 PM
you have no idea what actually happened. you can choose to say screw him and act like he is guilty, or you can reserve judgement until all the facts come out. which seems more reasonable to you?

I don't care what happened. You don't assault your mother! If you can condone that, then you have to stop and think about it. It is his mother!

fortdick
07-17-2012, 03:12 PM
I am not sure if you've ever been around a drug addict( like as in a family member) but it is a scary thing to be around. They lie, cheat, steal, do things you'd never think a person who cared about you would do, as long as they get their next fix. Thats all they care about. It is entirely possible she was on drugs, he grabbed her wrist to restrain her from hitting him or leaving the area to possibly hurt herself more. As far as hitting her with his hat and shoving her, we have no idea if that is true or not, what we do know is that drug addicts lie. They lie about pretty much everything. If she really battled with Crack in her life, there is a great chance for relapse. I could completely off on this, but I have a close family member who suffers from drug addictions, and I've seen her do things to her own family members that you would not believe. I've heard her threaten to kill herself so they physically restrained her, and then her tell everybody the next day that her family was beating her, which was 100% false.

I tend to side against what a drug addict says most of the time. If you want to take her word for it, that's fine. But I've been around it, I know what goes on behind the doors unfortunately. To me this sounds exactly like a drug related situation, even if she wasn't on drugs at the time. She could have been going through withdraw or threatening to go out and get some.

Aren't you making an excus for him? I wonder about everyone that says we don't know what happens then goes on to paint a scenario that makes Dez seem like the victim. I don't think cops are so stupid as to arrest a high profile personality without taking a long look at it.

I will say it again, you don't assault your mom!

rocboy22
07-17-2012, 03:13 PM
I don't care what happened. You don't assault your mother! If you can condone that, then you have to stop and think about it. It is his mother!

of course you don't. but did it even happen? that is my point.

fortdick
07-17-2012, 03:14 PM
Unless you were there you don't know what happened. Nothing may of happened or she could have been the aggressor and he could have refrained her or she could have been high. People do get falsely accused in these situations and stories embellished. I've seen it happen.

And the police will always arrest a high profile athlete based upon a spurious claim by a drug addict.

Which scenario makes more sense?

Seriously, you are making excuses for the guy.

fortdick
07-17-2012, 03:17 PM
If a parent is parading around like a child.....they deserve to get slapped up like you would your child. Especially if you love them

This cocaine sniffing mother, obviously has no good sense.

Maybe she screwed his friend? or a younger man? or she wont lay off the drugs? Or she is a bad influence on Bryants little siblings if he has any....

Mother or not...older or not...if you still act like a teenager, and your son or daughter is old enough to move out. Then you deserve to get disciplined. Why?

Because your not an adult.....who gives parents the right to abuse or hit their children? **** they deserve the same thing if you wanna act worthless

Seriously?

Try smacking your kids. Aside from your clean up in the last sentence, you are advocating child and elderly abuse. There is no legitimate reason to hit your mother!

Muhast
07-17-2012, 03:21 PM
Aren't you making an excus for him? I wonder about everyone that says we don't know what happens then goes on to paint a scenario that makes Dez seem like the victim. I don't think cops are so stupid as to arrest a high profile personality without taking a long look at it.

I will say it again, you don't assault your mom!


I'm not making an excuse, I'm just saying if you've ever been around somebody who has a troubled past with drugs, you make be a tad bit more inclined to believe, while something probably occured, the truth is being stretched here.

How do you know he actually assaulted her, and not that he grabbed her wrists to stop her from hitting him? You don't know. How do you know she wasn't threatening to do something dangerous? You don't know. So by that same token, and her history with drugs, I am leaning towards the incident most likely being a confrontation over something like that, and her lying about it afterwards.

but if the facts ever come out, and he literally did just attack his mom as she claims, I will jump right over to your side of the fence. You don't assault your mom! But if the situation was crazy like I'm thinking,it likely wasn't an assault. For now at least.

jrumann59
07-17-2012, 03:46 PM
I don't care what happened. You don't assault your mother! If you can condone that, then you have to stop and think about it. It is his mother!

Tell that to my father. My mom hit him with pot that required 13 stitches and he grabbed here arm after the first swing he ended up in the cell for the weekend on DV. Not all DV is equal. Not all parents are created equal, take from someone that beat the piss out of a drunk father after he started hitting me. Sorry if you step up like a man you go down like man doesn't matter what sex you are. You may get the first hit I will take the rest.

jamesdojr
07-17-2012, 03:54 PM
"After being transported to the DeSoto police department, Angela Bryant, 37, provided a written statement detailing the alleged assault."

Did I read that right? His Mom is 37??? Dez is 23. My math is bad so I'll ask the question. Did she have Dez at the age of 14?

jrumann59
07-17-2012, 03:59 PM
"After being transported to the DeSoto police department, Angela Bryant, 37, provided a written statement detailing the alleged assault."

Did I read that right? His Mom is 37??? Dez is 23. My math is bad so I'll ask the question. Did she have Dez at the age of 14?

Your math is good. She is not a frail old lady.

CowboyFan74
07-17-2012, 04:03 PM
"After being transported to the DeSoto police department, Angela Bryant, 37, provided a written statement detailing the alleged assault."

Did I read that right? His Mom is 37??? Dez is 23. My math is bad so I'll ask the question. Did she have Dez at the age of 14?


http://carltonjordan.com/files/images/2010/04/25okstate.2.big_-e1271860776991.jpg

I thought it was a type-o myself...

wittenacious
07-17-2012, 04:19 PM
Somewhere in Miami, Jeff Ireland snickers.
Jeff Ireland can step up on a stool and kiss both of my butt cheeks.

ravidubey
07-17-2012, 04:47 PM
Somewhere in Miami, Jeff Ireland snickers.

He's snickering how after his last few drafts and failed free agency recruiting (Manning, Fisher) he's basically stealing money from the Dolphins.

The man couldn't even get Tim Tebow or Alex Smith to come to Miami.

Talk about laughing all the way to the bank.

wittenacious
07-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Tell that to my father. My mom hit him with pot that required 13 stitches and he grabbed here arm after the first swing he ended up in the cell for the weekend on DV. Not all DV is equal. Not all parents are created equal, take from someone that beat the piss out of a drunk father after he started hitting me. Sorry if you step up like a man you go down like man doesn't matter what sex you are. You may get the first hit I will take the rest.
I'd have to agree with you. Can't relate to the particulars, but the bold part I get. Bottom line is like you said: "Sorry if you step up like a man you go down like man doesn't matter what sex you are."

Not trying to be ignorant here but if you attack first, plan on taking what you get. Maybe you'll learn to settle down a bit the next time you get the impulse to act out physically in attacking somebody first, thinking you have some special right to be a d*** or b****.

Don't start something you ain't prepared to back up and/or have challenged to the full extent of what someone else might do. On the job training for living in the real world is what that's called.

Not saying Dez's mom - specifically - did or didn't have it coming by my comments, just agreeing in general.

CowboysYanksLakers
07-17-2012, 06:33 PM
I'm an attorney and this will not result in any jail time however what Goodell does is another story...

CowboysYanksLakers
07-17-2012, 06:36 PM
Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.

I agree you should never put your hands on your MOTHER or FATHER.

Fla Cowpoke
07-17-2012, 06:51 PM
I agree you should never put your hands on your MOTHER or FATHER.


I am sure a lot of kids that have been molested by their parents would disagree with you.

VThokie7
07-17-2012, 06:57 PM
Let's see, she is crack ho arrested multiple times for dealing and has lied her way through life, but suddenly now she is a law abiding citizen whose word is gospel?

She is like Mike Vick, who recently reported he lied and planned to lie his whole way through the dog fighting scheme until he found out how airtight the case was against him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/michael-vick-intended-lie-way-dogfighting-scandal-093120556--nfl.html

Some people are so friggin gullible it isn't funny.

While her word shouldn't be treated as gospel, it doesn't mean it should be ignored. You're calling out people for being gullible, yet you're on the other end of the spectrum as an absolute Dez apologist.

You're insane if you don't believe its not plausible that a guy with constant issues (as minor as they may be at times) couldn't have done this. Just because he plays for the Cowboys doesn't make him innocent. Sick of people using the everybody makes mistakes line too. Why don't other players get in trouble then? And its not just because of the star, we have 52 other players that seem to get by just fine.

VThokie7
07-17-2012, 06:58 PM
I am sure a lot of kids that have been molested by their parents would disagree with you.

Seriously you went there? Your defense of Dez apparently knows no bounds.

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:07 PM
Screw him. Assaulting his mother? Who in their right mind does that? Everyone trying to minimize this or make excuses for him have to stop. He assaulted his mother! Whatever the provocation, you don't assult your mother.

I'm glad to see somebody's got their priorities straight in this thread...

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:09 PM
you have no idea what actually happened. you can choose to say screw him and act like he is guilty, or you can reserve judgement until all the facts come out. which seems more reasonable to you?

Have you read this thread?? People are mighty quick to blame his mom for what he did...

If he is guilty of what he's charged with, no matter his excuse he's a piece of subhuman garbage...

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:09 PM
Sweet..

Superbowl Bound now baby...

Not funny... not funny at all...

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:12 PM
If a parent is parading around like a child.....they deserve to get slapped up like you would your child.

Shame on you... there is no excuse, EVER, for striking your mother... no matter how disturbed she might be, you just walk away...

Anybody who would assault his mother is a piece of crap, period... if Dez did this, I agree with the poster who said "screw him"....

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:13 PM
All in All....a mother like that...Dez should go the Eminem Route...flip the birds to her, and cut her off....for life!

He has every right to do that... he does not have the right to put his hands on her...

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:14 PM
Alot of what you said could be true, but what you didnt say is this. All of what you said maybe weighing heavily on Dez's mind, ontop of trying to play in the NFL. Him trying to keep his mom straight and on the right path could really be taking a toll on him causing him to snap. Here maybe a young man trying to help this team win, trying to get a new contract, trying to move on but in the back of his mind his know his mom is messing up which eventually mess him up...unless he leaves her alone....thats hard for any human being that truely loves their momma.



GREAT POST FROZEN

Look at all the people trying to justify a man hitting his mother... the whole lot of you should be ashamed...

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:15 PM
I think he is telling the truth.

Unless it was a guy I really despise, like Vick. Then I would be saying he should get the death penalty.

For someone else on another team, I would hope that he gets a fair judgement. That would not stop me from going to my friend's FB page that likes that team or player and bust his balls to no end.

Basically, I think as a fan of the team, Cowboy fans should support the team and players until PROVEN that they did something wrong. Not have them walk the plank at the first word of trouble.

This is hardly Dez's "first word of trouble"...

silverbear
07-17-2012, 09:17 PM
I don't care what happened. You don't assault your mother! If you can condone that, then you have to stop and think about it. It is his mother!

I can only assume that those who seem to have no problem with him assaulting his mother had lousy mothers themselves...

Verdict
07-17-2012, 09:55 PM
If this turns out to be what it appears to be, and Dez is guilty .... you have to worry about the depth of this problem. Problems and events like these tend to be like a cockroach ... for every one you see, there are many more that you didn't see.

Fla Cowpoke
07-17-2012, 10:30 PM
For the record, I have not made a judgement either way on his guilt or innocence. Still way too much info that hasn't come out....like Dez's version of the events.

His stepbrother has supposedly tweeted that Dez never hit his mother and that she was the instigator of the situation.

Again, I will wait until hearing more information.

We know his mother's past. I find it just as plausible that she instigated this as I do that he did.

Fla Cowpoke
07-17-2012, 10:34 PM
Several posters have given personal accounts of DV committed by women and if you don't think that those circumstances were such that it was appropriate for a man to put hands on her to restrain her or protect himself then I guess we will just have to disagree.

aikemirv
07-18-2012, 06:58 AM
I am not sure if you've ever been around a drug addict( like as in a family member) but it is a scary thing to be around. They lie, cheat, steal, do things you'd never think a person who cared about you would do, as long as they get their next fix. Thats all they care about. It is entirely possible she was on drugs, he grabbed her wrist to restrain her from hitting him or leaving the area to possibly hurt herself more. As far as hitting her with his hat and shoving her, we have no idea if that is true or not, what we do know is that drug addicts lie. They lie about pretty much everything. If she really battled with Crack in her life, there is a great chance for relapse. I could completely off on this, but I have a close family member who suffers from drug addictions, and I've seen her do things to her own family members that you would not believe. I've heard her threaten to kill herself so they physically restrained her, and then her tell everybody the next day that her family was beating her, which was 100% false.

I tend to side against what a drug addict says most of the time. If you want to take her word for it, that's fine. But I've been around it, I know what goes on behind the doors unfortunately. To me this sounds exactly like a drug related situation, even if she wasn't on drugs at the time. She could have been going through withdraw or threatening to go out and get some.

This is a messed up family situation and I really don't understand how anyone could judge him unless they actually saw what happenned!

Dez's history should really have no bearing on this incident IMO because unless he hit her, which there is no excuse for - grabbing wrist and arms
is not something to get upset about. This sounds like restraint to me- not assault.

ravidubey
07-18-2012, 09:42 AM
Dez is on a stage where perception matters, and if the perception is that an NFL player beat a woman, his mother no less, and was arrested and charged as a result you can bet the Commissioner is going to not only notice but also suspend.

So, not judging so much as observing, see you in October, Dez.

jrumann59
07-18-2012, 10:11 AM
Look at all the people trying to justify a man hitting his mother... the whole lot of you should be ashamed...

Take it from a kid that has been through the foster system because of abusive parents there is always exceptions to the rule. Not all parents are June and Ward Cleaver, when you throw in drugs and alcohol people can become the monsters from nightmares. While many here have had picture perfect families in Suburbia America not everyone has that luxury. Hey if Dez is in the wrong he deserves what he gets but DV cases are rarely cut and dry.

jrumann59
07-18-2012, 10:13 AM
Dez is on a stage where perception matters, and if the perception is that an NFL player beat a woman, his mother no less, and was arrested and charged as a result you can bet the Commissioner is going to not only notice but also suspend.

So, not judging so much as observing, see you in October, Dez.

IIRC in cases like this the NFL and Herr Goodell waits for the court disposition.

fortdick
07-18-2012, 11:51 AM
Tell that to my father. My mom hit him with pot that required 13 stitches and he grabbed here arm after the first swing he ended up in the cell for the weekend on DV. Not all DV is equal. Not all parents are created equal, take from someone that beat the piss out of a drunk father after he started hitting me. Sorry if you step up like a man you go down like man doesn't matter what sex you are. You may get the first hit I will take the rest.

Well, same kinda thing happened to my father after a weekend trip to Vegas he didn't tell her about before hand. But he never laid a hand on Mom. He always said that hurting a woman was cowardly, and I agree.

dfense
07-18-2012, 01:12 PM
Dez Bryant's mom alleges assault

Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant was arrested Monday after he allegedly assaulted his mother, Angela, on Saturday, according to DeSoto police Captain Ron Smith.

According to the incident report, Bryant became angry when his mother asked him to leave her home during an argument Saturday afternoon. Initially, at a Tuesday news conference, Smith said Bryant slapped his mother in the face, but the police report, which was released later Tuesday, clarified that Bryant allegedly grabbed her by her T-shirt and hair and "hit her across the face with his ball cap."

Angela Bryant, whose T-shirt and bra were allegedly torn during the incident, indicated on the 911 call that this was not the first time she was assaulted by her son.

"I can't keep letting him do this," said Angela Bryant, who made the call from the nearby home of family friend and adviser David Wells. "I can't keep letting him do me like this. I'm tired. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm tired."

Read Full Article (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8173444/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-allegedly-assaulted-mom-police-say)I'm just happy neither person was stabbed.

wittenacious
07-18-2012, 01:35 PM
I'm glad to see somebody's got their priorities straight in this thread...
SB — you know I've come to think of you like a brother from another mother, but I allow that there might've been extreme... and if not extreme, at least extenuating... circumstances. Not the least of which is the very distinct possibility Dez's mom was not completely truthful.

If Dez was physically violent towards his mom for reasons other than: 1) legitimate self-defense; or 2) accidental/incidental contact, trying to move her aside to deal with someone else (i.e. the step-brother in question) who might well have been confronting him... then I'm in agreement with you.

Trust me when I say this: in my past I have been egregiously lied about — in an attempt to both ruin my good reputation and simultaneously protect the guilt of a proven liar — of having laid a wrongful hand on a woman. Not true! Proven to be untrue when all the facts came out. The bruises were there for all to see, but they were proven to have been caused by incidental and/or self-inflicted contact.

Won't get into the sordid details. It was painful to have lived through then, and I hate to bring it back up now. The only reason I did is to try to explain that I know from personal experience that there are, in fact, cases of innocents being accused of guilt... in this area of discussion, just like any other.

As a result, I've become sympathetic to the plight of the potentially wrongfully accused. I don't grant cart blanche to act as you please even when dealing with ne'r-do-wells, nor do I trust overly liberally but, rather, cautiously.

Horrible period in my life to have to have gone through... ex-wife who was repeatedly cheating on me and yet trying to make herself look like a victim at the same time. There are such people out there and they deserve to be found out.

So I allow for... believe me I allow for... the possibility Dez is not completely guilty as charged based on the early reports that have been presented, based on the word of his mother... known to have lied to the Police in the past.

Just sayin'.

jrumann59
07-18-2012, 03:27 PM
Well, same kinda thing happened to my father after a weekend trip to Vegas he didn't tell her about before hand. But he never laid a hand on Mom. He always said that hurting a woman was cowardly, and I agree.

My father didn't hurt my mom he caught her second swing of the pot. But since he made contact and in most DV cases the cops take a woman's word over a man's even if the evidence is to the contrary like a gash that needed 13 stitches.

Zimmy Lives
07-18-2012, 04:46 PM
What troubles me more than anything is why is the player going to his mama's house so he can hit her?

If you have a tendency to strike people close to you then stay away. I don't blame her for calling the cops; no one likes to get ***** slapped in their own pad!

Verdict
07-18-2012, 05:48 PM
Well now that the ball is rolling, my suggestion to her is to distance herself from him. If that means moving out on her own and supporting herself, then that's what she needs to do.

As for him, he needs to let everything play out in court. Unless the DA is looking to make a name for him/herself, then this will probably be settled out of court with him getting probation/community service, or something.

Disclaimer: I'm no attorney, but I've watched several crime shows to know how they work. ;)

Or you could stay in a Holiday Inn Express! :)

WPBCowboysFan
07-18-2012, 06:26 PM
I don't care what happened. You don't assault your mother! If you can condone that, then you have to stop and think about it. It is his mother!

For one, you, me, all of us posting here do not know what happened. And that includes knowing whether or not he actually did assault his mother. While I would agree with your sentiment I wont make any dogmatic statements about a situation I know very little about.

In our country we have many different cultures/sub cultures. For instance I grew up in a white middle class Christian family. There was no domestic violence, and rarely even an observed argument between my parents. No yelling and cussing at each other. We even managed to go through my entire childhood, teen years, and even into college w/o having bedroom doors broken or hanging off of the hinges. I never once remember holes in the walls as a result from family feuds.

On the other hand, it is just normal everyday life for some to live completely opposite of what I grew up with. I owned 8 rental units, some was Section 8. What I learned as a property owner there was amazing. Family fighting was common place - even daily. I fixed more doors that were broken off of hinges and even the door frames would be broken at times. Holes in the wall was normal as well. This is what these people know. Its how they live. To them its just as normal as it is for me to sit down and grab my remote.

My point, while you think one should never ever assault one's mother, you are looking at it from your perspective. And what is normal and so obvious to you, might not be so normal or obvious to someone else. Even something so obvious as never ever assaulting one's own mom.

Wood
07-18-2012, 10:58 PM
I am 99.9% certain Dez will never allow this to go to court. He has too much money and his Mom has too little. A nice new car makes this charge go away in a hurry...until next time...and trust me there is a next time.