9-Yr-Old Boy Attacks Toddlers In Violent Rampage At Daycare w/vid of the attacks

[WoodysGirl]

A 9-year-old boy launched an abusive rampage against several toddlers in a Vicksburg, Mississippi, daycare center on July 16, WLBT-TV reports (http://www.wlbt.com/story/19049901/man-arrested-for-slapping-6-year-old-at-daycare).

The boy, whose name has not been released, is seen on a nanny cam kicking and punching two other toddlers for more than 10 minutes at the Kiddie City Childcare Center. He is no longer enrolled at the center. The video shows the boy waiting for a daycare worker to look the other way before launching into his merciless attack.

The parent of one of the boy’s victims, Jamie Williams, says that his daughter was forced to stay home for a week because of injuries–a busted lip and bite mark on her chin–sustained from the attack.

Though Williams’s mistake was going to the daycare and hitting the child who he thought was guilty of the attack. He hit the wrong kid. Williams was cuffed and charged with simple assault (http://www.wlbt.com/story/19049901/man-arrested-for-slapping-6-year-old-at-daycare) after video of his attack was viewed by cops.

Read more: http://newsone.com/2027025/9-year-old-boy-goes-on-rampage-at-daycare-vicksburg-mississippi/

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There's another vid on FB, but I couldn't post because of the language in the caption. But the vid was 2:25mins long and this kid actually drop-kicked one of the babies. I was horrified.

[vta]

Calculated evil by that little *******.

[Lodeus]

What a little psycho. Needs to get help and not be around other kids.

[5Stars]

That is so sad...

:(

[jobberone]

What could possibly have happened to that kid to cause this much rage? They need to thoroughly investigate everyone in that home and perhaps even close associations. The likelihood he has been abused is very very high. Not making excuses for his behavior but we need to find out what the heck is going on as well as make sure he's supervised esp around children or animals.

[Rynie]

What could possibly have happened to that kid to cause this much rage? They need to thoroughly investigate everyone in that home and perhaps even close associations. The likelihood he has been abused is very very high. Not making excuses for his behavior but we need to find out what the heck is going on as well as make sure he's supervised esp around children or animals.
He was probably sent to timeout instead of being spanked. :D

[RoyTheHammer]

As if what the kid did wasn't bad enough.. the parent had to come in and do something even more stupid.

Unreal..

[jobberone]

He was probably sent to timeout instead of being spanked. :D

:laugh2: Man o'man don't get me started on that subject.

[a_minimalist]

man screw spanking, i would beat the hell out of my kid if i saw him do that. he'd be punished for years.

[nablives]

That kid needs help. If he doesn't get it, I fear those around him will witness a string of violence and unstable behavior, and there won't be a good ending. Normal kids fight from time to time, and even bully a little, but this crap was way over the top. :(

[wittenacious]

He was probably sent to timeout instead of being spanked. :D
Ruh Roh! You will be hearing from the NO SPANK 'EM camp soon and boy are you gonna get it. Meh. On second thought... worst that'll happen — you'll be sent to bed w/o supper.

[Muhast]

In one video his aunt says"

"He fights kids his age, but he doesn't fight toddlers. He takes medicine everyday, he is just a normal kid".

Wow. How can you see that video and say that?

He dropkicks a girl, picks her up and kicks her again like he is Leonidas from 300. This isn't just playing around, he kicks her and she goes flying. And then punches a toddler in the face, bites her face and then strangles her.

Cant believe this video.

[Sam I Am]

I've seen these types of kids before. They don't get better, they get worse. Future murderer.

Lets do like the British and send him to Australia.

[RoyTheHammer]

I've seen these types of kids before. They don't get better, they get worse. Future murderer.

Lets do like the British and send him to Australia.

Especially with that kind of parenting.. let him go one on one with one of those Red Kangaroo. They'll bust him up real quick, haha.

Seriously though, we're starting to have one thread like this per day. Sick world out there.

[WoodysGirl]

It's on youtube...

RRb1ALtahsg

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Every day it's a different sick headline from this world.

[Future]

I think it's interesting that a 9 year old is in the same facility as toddlers in the first place.

[DallasEast]

It's on youtube...

RRb1ALtahsgThe nine-year old was bad enough.

Jamie Williams???

Come on man. :facepalm:

[rkell87]

It's on youtube...

RRb1ALtahsg

over 15 babys huh.....:facepalm:

[rocboy22]

I think it's interesting that a 9 year old is in the same facility as toddlers in the first place.

yea, seems weird to me, too.

[CashMan]

I think it's interesting that a 9 year old is in the same facility as toddlers in the first place.


I was going to say that, I think this is an independent day care. My wife is a teacher at a school, who works with kids with emotional problems. It seems like he would fit right in there. And no, they do not get better with age at all, even with counseling.

[Rack Bauer]

If I as the parent of one of those kids, I don't think I'd be able to keep myself calm enough to not strangle that little boy.

I know in the world we live in it's not "Ok" to say this, but that kid should be locked up for life. He's never gonna get better and will only get worse over time until he kills someone, probably multiple someones. Best to nip it in the bud, but it won't happen in our society.

The ones to blame for that monstrosity are the parents/guardians. They should be castrated and have any other children taken from them.

Just My Opinion.

[rocboy22]

If I as the parent of one of those kids, I don't think I'd be able to keep myself calm enough to not strangle that little boy.

I know in the world we live in it's not "Ok" to say this, but that kid should be locked up for life. He's never gonna get better and will only get worse over time until he kills someone, probably multiple someones. Best to nip it in the bud, but it won't happen in our society.

The ones to blame for that monstrosity are the parents/guardians. They should be castrated and have any other children taken from them.

Just My Opinion.

yea that kid is demented. if he was just going nuts and hitting other kids and had to be restrained, i dont think it would be as bad. but, he knew what he was doing. the way he tried to hide his attacks on the defenseless babies from the adults indicates he knows what he is doing is wrong and just wants to hurt these little kids anyways.

[ethiostar]

I literally got sick to my stomach watching the video. I have no words to describe the kinds of emotions that i'm experiencing right now. I just don't know what to say to this and I can't get myself to watch the video again.

[Big D]

What could possibly have happened to that kid to cause this much rage? They need to thoroughly investigate everyone in that home and perhaps even close associations. The likelihood he has been abused is very very high. Not making excuses for his behavior but we need to find out what the heck is going on as well as make sure he's supervised esp around children or animals.

His wacka** mama!

He was probably sent to timeout instead of being spanked. :D

:hammer:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

yea, seems weird to me, too.

not necessarily, many day care facilities have a wide age group

Can't believe though the parent of the other kid would go in and belt a young child.

[Rynie]

not necessarily, many day care facilities have a wide age group

Can't believe though the parent of the other kid would go in and belt a young child.
****...I would have choked the **** out of that little kid. Probably a good thing I don't have kids.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

****...I would have choked the **** out of that little kid. Probably a good thing I don't have kids.

I understand the feeling but you are the adult, he is only a child.

[Rynie]

I understand the feeling but you are the adult, he is only a child.
Ok, then I would have gone and found the mom (I only assume there's no father in the picture) and slap the **** out of her for raising such a little monster. I'm not kidding, either.

[a_minimalist]

Ok, then I would have gone and found the mom (I only assume there's no father in the picture) and slap the **** out of her for raising such a little monster. I'm not kidding, either.

If that was my kid he would have gotten a beating. Not with a fist but with an open hand. Maybe I shouldn't have kids lol

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Ok, then I would have gone and found the mom (I only assume there's no father in the picture) and slap the **** out of her for raising such a little monster. I'm not kidding, either.

so you would gladly go to jail to prove a point?

[RoyTheHammer]

****...I would have choked the **** out of that little kid. Probably a good thing I don't have kids.

Yea, that's probably what the other father was thinking too as he walked in there and hit the wrong kid.. now he's going to jail. Best to not do something rash in situations like this.

[Phrozen Phil]

If I as the parent of one of those kids, I don't think I'd be able to keep myself calm enough to not strangle that little boy.

I know in the world we live in it's not "Ok" to say this, but that kid should be locked up for life. He's never gonna get better and will only get worse over time until he kills someone, probably multiple someones. Best to nip it in the bud, but it won't happen in our society.

The ones to blame for that monstrosity are the parents/guardians. They should be castrated and have any other children taken from them.

Just My Opinion.

Before we pass judgment, perhaps we should seek some answers to some critical questions, some of which have been raised here:

1: Why is a 9 year old placed with toddlers?

2: Does anybody else notice that there doesn't appear to be much for the children to do?

3: When supervising children, do you look out the window or do you watch the children?

4: This kind of behavior is learned. Where did he learn to hurt smaller children? Kids are angry for a reason. What's his reason? Before you jump on that one, I will be clear that while this kind of behavor can be explained, it should not be excused. His mother's assertion that he fights with kids his own age is hardly reassuring about the home environment.

The notion that "he's never going to get better" doesn't have to be his future. Kids are resilient, need active, positive parenting and opportunities to learn better behavior. Nine year olds need their parents to show the way. They do not know how the world should work.

The fact that so many here are concerned and outraged should be viewed as positive. For every parent with serious challenges, there are millions who do a great job with their kids. Many of them would be great role models for the mother of the angry boy and to the parent who struck an innocent child. As adults, we should be expected to behave like adults.
When we show our kids that we can think before we act, then they learn about personal responsibility.

[wittenacious]

Before we pass judgment, perhaps we should seek some answers to some critical questions, some of which have been raised here:

[...]
Some great points to seriously consider, Phil.

[AbeBeta]

1: Why is a 9 year old placed with toddlers?


this one is easy to answer. A mix of this sort is relatively common as you can have more children. With toddlers there is a certain ratio of adults to toddler that you need to maintain (I think it is 1 adult per 4 toddlers). However, these ratios go up when you have older kids. So you can have more kids with fewer adults than if you only had toddlers.

This all is cost-driven. If parents were willing to pay say $60 a day for childcare (or if the subsidies for low income families were higher) you wouldn't have such a mix.

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

this one is easy to answer. A mix of this sort is relatively common as you can have more children. With toddlers there is a certain ratio of adults to toddler that you need to maintain (I think it is 1 adult per 4 toddlers). However, these ratios go up when you have older kids. So you can have more kids with fewer adults than if you only had toddlers.

This all is cost-driven. If parents were willing to pay say $60 a day for childcare (or if the subsidies for low income families were higher) you wouldn't have such a mix.

I believe one of the articles I've read on it today stated that it was time for kids to leave so they were all gathered together.

[AbeBeta]

I believe one of the articles I've read on it today stated that it was time for kids to leave so they were all gathered together.

same issue really. lets you have one teacher working rather than one in every class

[Rack Bauer]

Before we pass judgment, perhaps we should seek some answers to some critical questions, some of which have been raised here:

1: Why is a 9 year old placed with toddlers?

Does it matter? No matter why he's with them, still no valid excuse for that behavior.


2: Does anybody else notice that there doesn't appear to be much for the children to do?

And? STILL no valid excuse for that behavior.


3: When supervising children, do you look out the window or do you watch the children?

STILL not a valid reason for that behavior.

[wittenacious]

...no valid excuse for that behavior.

STILL no valid excuse for that behavior.

STILL not a valid reason for that behavior.
Agreed. None at all. May be a reason (reasons), but nothing that would legitimately validate such behavior.

Aberrant... even abhorrent... actions by that 9-year old boy.

[Rynie]

so you would gladly go to jail to prove a point?
Dude, are you serious? I don't have kids, but imagine if you saw a video of your INFANT daughter being KICKED by a big kid (to her). I'd be in such a RAGE, that yeah...I'd go to jail. I've never even noticed your posts until the Rob Ryan thread...you've managed to become the most ANNOYING poster in a day's span. Congratulations.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Dude, are you serious? I don't have kids, but imagine if you saw a video of your INFANT daughter being KICKED by a big kid (to her). I'd be in such a RAGE, that yeah...I'd go to jail. I've never even noticed your posts until the Rob Ryan thread...you've managed to become the most ANNOYING poster in a day's span. Congratulations.

That is ok, I don't even notice your posts now.

[Phrozen Phil]

Does it matter? No matter why he's with them, still no valid excuse for that behavior.

And? STILL no valid excuse for that behavior.

STILL not a valid reason for that behavior.

I was not validating his behavor. He shoud be accountable for hurting other children, but the resposibility is not his alone.

[TheCount]

I kind of feel bad for the DayCare worker. Obviously she wasn't the most alert caretaker in the world, but who in their right mind would suspect a 9 year old is drop kicking kids, chocking them and then pretending to comfort them when their back is turned?

She had no idea she was in the room with a kid that troubled, who is clearly in need of help.

[The30YardSlant]

$100 bucks says that kid has never met his father, lives with his mother and grandmother and both treat him much the same way he treated those other kids.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

$100 bucks says that kid has never met his father, lives with his mother and grandmother and both treat him much the same way he treated those other kids.

Still doesn't excuse what he did.

[Joe Realist]

First of all, a 9 year old is too old for daycare. Usually, you go from infant to 5-6 year old. Second, they are supposed to be in separate rooms based on ages.

This child and the daycare have serious issues. You don't want to read about another James Bulger incident.

[The30YardSlant]

Still doesn't excuse what he did.

Not at all, just saying his situation is as predictable as the tides.

[Rack Bauer]

I was not validating his behavor. He shoud be accountable for hurting other children, but the resposibility is not his alone.

Agreed. That little boy and his parents/guardians should get the same treatment that boy gave to those little kids.

Not at all, just saying his situation is as predictable as the tides.

Agreed.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

First of all, a 9 year old is too old for daycare. Usually, you go from infant to 5-6 year old. Second, they are supposed to be in separate rooms based on ages.

This child and the daycare have serious issues. You don't want to read about another James Bulger incident.

problem is at 9 you are considered too young to go home by yourself so what is the parent supposed to do with a 9 year old

[RoyTheHammer]

First of all, a 9 year old is too old for daycare. Usually, you go from infant to 5-6 year old. Second, they are supposed to be in separate rooms based on ages.

This child and the daycare have serious issues. You don't want to read about another James Bulger incident.

:confused:

Say what? How is a nine year old, "too old" for daycare in your mind? They have daycare programs for kids up to their teen years even.

Some families, both parents have to work for them to get by, its sad, but its reality. Would you rather leave a 9 year old home alone by themselves? I wouldn't.

[The30YardSlant]

problem is at 9 you are considered too young to go home by yourself so what is the parent supposed to do with a 9 year old

Another hundred bucks says this boy's mother had no business having him in the first place.

[The30YardSlant]

Some families, both parents have to work for them to get by, its sad, but its reality. Would you rather leave a 9 year old home alone by themselves? I wouldn't.

Yes, but context clues will lead any rational observer to conclude that this is almost certainly not the case here.

I've volunteered in places like that and with kids like that, and the story is almost always the same and represents a sad cycle that an unfortunately large portion of our society perpetuates.

[Rynie]

Still doesn't excuse what he did.
No, but it certainly contributes to it.

[RoyTheHammer]

Yes, but context clues will lead any rational observer to conclude that this is almost certainly not the case here.

I've volunteered in places like that and with kids like that, and the story is almost always the same and represents a sad cycle that an unfortunately large portion of our society perpetuates.

I didn't imply anywhere in my post that i felt that was the case here. I was simply replying to a poster that said 9 is too old for daycare.

[phillycard]

Dude, are you serious? I don't have kids, but imagine if you saw a video of your INFANT daughter being KICKED by a big kid (to her). I'd be in such a RAGE, that yeah...I'd go to jail. I've never even noticed your posts until the Rob Ryan thread...you've managed to become the most ANNOYING poster in a day's span. Congratulations.

Rynie, I have to agree with you my man. I do have a son, and although I'm the most peaceful, non confrontational parent, if I witnessed something like that, I'd have to be calmed down on the spot from hurting something. I protect my family at ALL costs. (Love the avatar btw)

[Phrozen Phil]

:confused:

Say what? How is a nine year old, "too old" for daycare in your mind? They have daycare programs for kids up to their teen years even.

Some families, both parents have to work for them to get by, its sad, but its reality. Would you rather leave a 9 year old home alone by themselves? I wouldn't.

You make a good point, but perhaps a program for school age kids needs to be separate from a program for toddlers/infants. We have separate after school programs during the school year and Day Camps in the summer time. I was able to refer some kids to a summer Karate Day camp which kept them busy, focused, moving and exhausted at the end of each day.

=The30YardSlant] Another hundred bucks says this boy's mother had no business having him in the first place.

You have to take a test to get a driver's license, but all you need to have children is functioning equipment. Good parents don't get to be good parents by default. I don't have a lot of info on this child's mother, but the interview with the reporter din't demonstrate much insight.

[RoyTheHammer]

You make a good point, but perhaps a program for school age kids needs to be separate from a program for toddlers/infants. We have separate after school programs during the school year and Day Camps in the summer time. I was able to refer some kids to a summer Karate Day camp which kept them busy, focused, moving and exhausted at the end of each day.



You have to take a test to get a driver's license, but all you need to have children is functioning equipment. Good parents don't get to be good parents by default. I don't have a lot of info on this child's mother, but the interview with the reporter din't demonstrate much insight.

I think it depends on what type of daycare program it is, but i would certainly agree that is something that could prevent this type of situation. I think the bigger issue is daycare attendants, actually being attentive.

[Boys122]

It's a shame, and it's not just the kids fault, it's his parents too.

Obviously that kid has a disfuntional home.

[rkell87]

I believe one of the articles I've read on it today stated that it was time for kids to leave so they were all gathered together.

I'm quoting this because people are still arguing over the kids being in the same room, plus it might explain why the worker was looking out of the window...you know, to see who is pulling up so she can get the child ready for the parents?

[5Stars]

I'm quoting this because people are still arguing over the kids being in the same room, plus it might explain why the worker was looking out of the window...you know, to see who is pulling up so she can get the child ready for the parents?

Yeah, that makes sense. Let me look out the window while I'm hearing some young kids crying and screaming like they are getting hurt.

Gotta watch out for who's coming and just let crying kids be kids.

:rolleyes:

[rkell87]

Yeah, that makes sense. Let me look out the window while I'm hearing some young kids crying and screaming like they are getting hurt.

Gotta watch out for who's coming and just let crying kids be kids.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

that whooshing sound you heard was the point going over your head

[5Stars]

:rolleyes:

that whooshing sound you heard was the point going over your head

Yeah, that whooshing sound over my head is what got the daycare woman arrested, huh?

:confused:

[RoyTheHammer]

I'm quoting this because people are still arguing over the kids being in the same room, plus it might explain why the worker was looking out of the window...you know, to see who is pulling up so she can get the child ready for the parents?

I wonder if the worker had ears.. or maybe the kid had already ripped them right off her head.

Ears.. "you know", to hear what is going on around her?

;)

[rkell87]

Yeah, that whooshing sound over my head is what got the daycare woman arrested, huh?

:confused:
did I say anything about her getting arrested
I wonder if the worker had ears.. or maybe the kid had already ripped them right off her head.

Ears.. "you know", to hear what is going on around her?

;)

did I say anything about her being able to hear?



sometimes I wonder why I bother pointing anything out because people don't listen to a damn thing anyway, just wait for their turn to talk

[RoyTheHammer]

did I say anything about her getting arrested


did I say anything about her being able to hear?



sometimes I wonder why I bother pointing anything out because people don't listen to a damn thing anyway, just wait for their turn to talk

No, we listened. You just don't understand what we're saying to you.

You were trying to make a rational argument for why the daycare attendant would be looking out the window while a boy 10 feet from her was beating up infants.. the point is, it doesn't matter what she was looking for or at, if she has ears, there's no way she shouldn't have heard what was going on in the same room as her. So no, saying she was "probably looking to see what parents were arriving", means nothing and it doesn't excuse her not paying attention to the children.

[rkell87]

No, we listened. You just don't understand what we're saying to you.

You were trying to make a rational argument for why the daycare attendant would be looking out the window while a boy 10 feet from her was beating up infants.. the point is, it doesn't matter what she was looking for or at, if she has ears, there's no way she shouldn't have heard what was going on in the same room as her. So no, saying she was "probably looking to see what parents were arriving", means nothing and it doesn't excuse her not paying attention to the children.

I agree it doesn't excuse her missing all of the instances but yeah I can see looking out of the window because who suspects that a 9 year old would be beating the hell out of an 2 year old? If he was fighting a child his age there would be a commotion and she would turn around and even if she did she didn't see what happened so she would only think the kid fell down or something. There is no sound on the video so who knows how many children are crying, 2 years olds cry for just about anything including being tired or hungry so it is not unreasonable to think that she would pay attention to every instance of a child crying.

fact is I pointed out something that most people seemed to miss and that was pretty much my only goal but it is foolish of me to think that anybody else is like me and could want to try and have a rational discussion as to the reasons behind how this all happened so my fault.

[RoyTheHammer]

I agree it doesn't excuse her missing all of the instances but yeah I can see looking out of the window because who suspects that a 9 year old would be beating the hell out of an 2 year old? If he was fighting a child his age there would be a commotion and she would turn around and even if she did she didn't see what happened so she would only think the kid fell down or something. There is no sound on the video so who knows how many children are crying, 2 years olds cry for just about anything including being tired or hungry so it is not unreasonable to think that she would pay attention to every instance of a child crying.

fact is I pointed out something that most people seemed to miss and that was pretty much my only goal but it is foolish of me to think that anybody else is like me and could want to try and have a rational discussion as to the reasons behind how this all happened so my fault.

Nobody missed what you pointed out.. we just all realize that there are more factors involved than just "Hey, maybe the parents were pulling up so she was looking out the window.. even though that is completely neglecting what she is being paid to do."

The kid was beating up the little kids for like 5 minutes at least.. where was she? There's no excuse man.. none. I guess you haven't been in childcare before, but if you arn't watching those kids like a hawk, you arn't doing your job.. and i have no doubt she will be sued, or her employer will be sued by some of those parents for her negligence.

[RoyTheHammer]

I agree it doesn't excuse her missing all of the instances but yeah I can see looking out of the window because who suspects that a 9 year old would be beating the hell out of an 2 year old? If he was fighting a child his age there would be a commotion and she would turn around and even if she did she didn't see what happened so she would only think the kid fell down or something. There is no sound on the video so who knows how many children are crying, 2 years olds cry for just about anything including being tired or hungry so it is not unreasonable to think that she would pay attention to every instance of a child crying.

fact is I pointed out something that most people seemed to miss and that was pretty much my only goal but it is foolish of me to think that anybody else is like me and could want to try and have a rational discussion as to the reasons behind how this all happened so my fault.

..and you're absolutely right, btw.. it is very reasonable that she would pay attention to every instance of a child crying because that is what she's being paid to do.

As for having a rational discussion about the subject matter, that is what most of us here are doing, sir. Anytime you'd like to join in, you'd be more than welcome. This isn't "make excuses for the employee who clearly wasn't doing their job" time though.. nothing rational about that at all.

[rkell87]

Nobody missed what you pointed out.. we just all realize that there are more factors involved than just "Hey, maybe the parents were pulling up so she was looking out the window.. even though that is completely neglecting what she is being paid to do."

The kid was beating up the little kids for like 5 minutes at least.. where was she? There's no excuse man.. none. I guess you haven't been in childcare before, but if you arn't watching those kids like a hawk, you arn't doing your job.. and i have no doubt she will be sued, or her employer will be sued by some of those parents for her negligence.

this proves you missed the point of the post

[RoyTheHammer]

this proves you missed the point of the post

lol

Well maybe i did, and if that is the case, i'd welcome you correcting me and everyone else who apparently missed it.

Sure seemed to me from you post that you were trying to give a rational explination for why the attendant was distracted at the window instead of doing her job.

[justbob]

Hey guys --watch your wording ---bad as some things are --have some class

[BlueStar3398]

Oh my gosh! That little demon kid! There is something seriously wrong with that kid!

[rkell87]

lol

Well maybe i did, and if that is the case, i'd welcome you correcting me and everyone else who apparently missed it.

Sure seemed to me from you post that you were trying to give a rational explination for why the attendant was distracted at the window instead of doing her job.

The point of the post was to point out why 2 year olds and 9 year olds were in the same room together then added a possible explanation as to a reason the woman would possibly be looking out the window. It was in no way advocating her innocence in the matter but that's all you two took from it. There is something else that no less than 8 posters in this thread missed but I'll refrain from pointing that out and let people go on being ignorant.

[Bluestang]

That is the behavior pattern of a psychopath. As a parent of a about to be six month old daughter that video is disgusting.

The lack of parenting is or any type of resemblence of an adult figure in the kids life is apparent in the aunt's comments to the reporter. Unfortunately 30YardSlant's comments are right on nose.

[RoyTheHammer]

The point of the post was to point out why 2 year olds and 9 year olds were in the same room together then added a possible explanation as to a reason the woman would possibly be looking out the window. It was in no way advocating her innocence in the matter but that's all you two took from it. There is something else that no less than 8 posters in this thread missed but I'll refrain from pointing that out and let people go on being ignorant.

Ah, so we did all know what you were saying after all. Imagine that.

:rolleyes:

[Phrozen Phil]

Could we come to a consensus that this nine year old needs serious help? What kind of help and how it should be applied will likely continue to be contentious issues, at least on this board. I'm not sure that many minds will be changed as a result of this debate, but the courts are taking action against one adult. Here's hoping they don't forget the kids.

[nablives]

Could we come to a consensus that this nine year old needs serious help?



It wouldn't shock me if that goes for his parent(s) too, assuming either of them are even in the picture.

[jobberone]

Keep in mind there are children with Social disorders or what appears to be one that live in functional homes with functional parents and siblings. Some of these problems are genetic and organic more than environment.

[ethiostar]

Keep in mind there are children with Social disorders or what appears to be one that live in functional homes with functional parents and siblings. Some of these problems are genetic and organic more than environment.

:hammer:

[Phrozen Phil]

Keep in mind there are children with Social disorders or what appears to be one that live in functional homes with functional parents and siblings. Some of these problems are genetic and organic more than environment.

Ever the voice of reason. :) Getting an understanding of this family and to include or rule out other causal factors will help whever is dealing with them. There's a lot we don't know about this case.

[rkell87]

Ah, so we did all know what you were saying after all. Imagine that.

:rolleyes:

See? No fing point in talking to you cause you are too dense to comprehend independent elements of a multi sentence explanation.