WB eyeing Ben Affleck to direct 'Justice League' [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

StevenOtero

08-08-2012, 04:07 PM

Modern Myth Media (http://www.modernmythmedia.com/2012/08/warner-bros-wants-affleck-for-justice-league/)

Variety reports Warner Bros. is prepared to offer Ben Affleck an opportunity to direct the “Justice League” film based on “Gangster Squad” writer Will Beall’s script. Discussions are said to be happening in the near future with one of the key points being whether or not Affleck will stick to his preference of starring in the films he directs (“The Town” and “Argo”).

Warner Bros. could be eyeing a 2015 release date, though it may not be the best idea to go head-to-head with an already established team up franchise in “The Avengers 2.” Also, if 2015 is the release date, that all but guarantees the studio will not go the Marvel route with a series of solo efforts ahead of the team up. “Man of Steel” will be the only lead in, though Warner Bros. may again opt for a separate, concurrent continuity for “Justice League” like it tried to do back in 2007.

We’ll have more on this story as it develops.

ChldsPlay

08-08-2012, 06:08 PM

Kevin Smith would be perfect for this gig, as much as he loves the DC Universe.

He would be good to write it, but terrible to direct it.

Biggems

08-08-2012, 07:28 PM

too bad we cant get Bale to play Batman for the Justice League movie.....since he hung up the bat suit.

If they use Lex Luthor as a villian, get Michael Rosenbaum. He was great as Lex in Smallville.

kristie

08-09-2012, 12:59 AM

too bad we cant get Bale to play Batman for the Justice League movie.....since he hung up the bat suit.

If they use Lex Luthor as a villian, get Michael Rosenbaum. He was great as Lex in Smallville.

not a bad idea. :cool:

trickblue

08-09-2012, 01:19 AM

jnday

08-09-2012, 07:08 AM

He directed "Gone Baby Gone" and "The Town" which are both great movies IMO.

The Town was a very good movie. He did a good good job on it. He may work out okay.

joseephuss

08-09-2012, 07:34 AM

Oh Lord... a preachy actor that can't act... with a bad wig... directing a potential blockbuster movie... what could POSSIBLY go wrong...

Gigli 2 perhaps?

PLEASE let real directors direct, Hollywood... sigh...

That's funny. What is also funny is that Gigli had a real director and it still sucked. Martin Brest directed Gigli. He also directed Meet Joe Black, Scent of a Woman, Midnight Run and Beverly Hills Cop. The real problem is that he wrote Gigli, but didn't write those other movies. So maybe you are correct, let real directors direct and not write.

What are they looking to get out of Justice League? Do they want an action movie with comical elements like Avengers? I don't know if Affleck would be good for that. His experience as a director has been with more serious drama movies. They need a good story first no matter who directs.

I don't think it is a bad idea to just make a JL movie. Just do it. If it works then they can spin off individual character movies from there. It takes a lot of coordination to introduce the characters in their own movies before hand. They can't even find a director for this movie, so how are they going to be organized enough to film 2 or 3 movies before hand. I say go for it.

Lodeus

08-09-2012, 07:36 AM

Word is he turned it down.

StevenOtero

08-09-2012, 09:19 AM

Word is he turned it down.http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/ben-affleck-on-justice-league-his-camp-says-no/#utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

More like his reps are saying no.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 09:22 AM

What are they looking to get out of Justice League? Do they want an action movie with comical elements like Avengers? I don't know if Affleck would be good for that. His experience as a director has been with more serious drama movies. They need a good story first no matter who directs.

I'd also settle for them having a clue. And they've shown zero signs of one thus far. The only successful hero they've had in over a decade just ended his run, and they've got little to nothing else going for them. Hopefully Man of Steel proves successful, but even if it is, it would give them exactly one piece of the puzzle.

I don't think it is a bad idea to just make a JL movie. Just do it. If it works then they can spin off individual character movies from there. It takes a lot of coordination to introduce the characters in their own movies before hand. They can't even find a director for this movie, so how are they going to be organized enough to film 2 or 3 movies before hand. I say go for it.

So your suggestion is to abandon planning because they can't do it and simply throw something up on the big screen?

Didn't they already make Green Lantern?

Marvel's path is the blueprint for success, they should follow it. You have to let the movie-going public know who these Justice League characters are first. And you can't do that over the course of a 2 1/2 hour ensemble film.

I believe that if they follow your course, it simply won't work and there not only won't be spinoffs, there won't even be a second JL movie.

They should first decide on who's playing Batman and Green Lantern , can you get Bale back or do you try to go with Gordon-Levitt? Can Ryan Reynolds work as Green Lantern or do you hit reset there?

Then, get started on a third character's film - Wonder Woman, Aquaman, whoever. And maybe handle some crossover elements there first. (Appearances by the 'established' future team members - Batman, Superman, GL)

Only at that point do I feel they can successfully impliment a Justice League film properly.

I feel that rushing things is a sure recipe for failure and these characters deserve better.

StevenOtero

08-09-2012, 09:26 AM

I feel that rushing things is a sure recipe for failure and these characters deserve better.:hammer:

DallasEast

08-09-2012, 10:13 AM

Producing a Justice League movie before creating a Wonder Woman film is beyond pathetic in my opinion. Here you have the three major hitters in the DC Comics universe: Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. The Dark Knight has been fully established on the big screen. So has the Last Son of Krypton, albeit with only two very good movies under his belt (Superman I & II) and the Christopher Nolan produced Man Of Steel on its way next summer.

The Amazon Princess?

Nowhere. Nada. M.I.A.

Lynda Carter looked bodaciously gorgeous in the uniform, but her television series was a poor representation of the character. It is almost obscene that she would be re-introduced 'out of the blue' to the world again without establishing her character in its proper context.

We all know what Batman is all about. Nolan made that crystal clear. Erase all the sequels past Superman II to today, acknowledge the great odds that Man Of Steel will re-affirm him as the quintessential comics superhero of all-time, and Superman regains equal (or near equal) footing with Batman.

Wonder Woman?

Ba da Da ta Da ta Ta!
do Do do do Do do!
Wonder Womannnn!
Wonder Womannnn!

All the world's waiting for you!
And the power you possess!

In your satin tights!
Fighting for your rights!
And the old Red, White and Blue! Ooooo!

Wonder Woman!
Wonder Woman!
YOU'RE A WONDER, WONDER WOMAN!
do DO de do Do ta to DO!

THAT'S basically all that folks outside of comics readers and viewers of the animated Justice League series know about her. Oh wait. I forgot.

SHE'S TWIRLING! SHE'S TWIRLING AROUND IN SLOW MOTION! THERE'S A BLINDING LIGHT! IT'S HER! IT'S WONDER WOMAN!

:bang2:

She is one of the fiercest warriors and fighters in any comics book universe.
She's magical (literally).
Her people are immersed in Greek mythology.
Her abilities are respected by Superman himself.
She's savagely sexy.

Anyone who knows the character could go on and on. Her movies (plural) should have been made decades ago. Yet DC and Warner Brothers have sat on their collective hands and done nothing. Still, I can assume that she'll pop up in a group/team movie from 'out of the blue.'

Well, ain't that special. :cool: And yes, the whole situation does sorta piss me off. :o:

joseephuss

08-09-2012, 10:27 AM

So your suggestion is to abandon planning because they can't do it and simply throw something up on the big screen?

.

Not at all. I am saying stop planning on the grandiose scale of introducing all the characters first and then the team up film. Just put all the planning and prep into the team up film itself. These characters are all known. Why bother with all the background information about how they got their powers or whatnot? Just plan on a good story about the team as a whole and go with that.

In The Godfather, they didn't have to show how he came into power. They just created a good story. In Star Wars, they just jumped into Episode IV of the whole story. There was no need to show how Don Corelone or Darth Vader got their respective starts. And those characters were unknown at the time. Everyone knows the major players from the DC comics.

I am all for planning. I'd rather they plan for one movie than trying to plan for 4 or 5 to make it all work. If done right, a team up film can work well and does not require lead up films.

gambit187

08-09-2012, 10:59 AM

It will fail regardless....Marvel>>>>>DC

CashMan

08-09-2012, 11:05 AM

It will fail regardless....Marvel>>>>>DC

ATM, idk. BB,TDK,TRKR were pretty good. IM and IM2, were ok. Thor was ehhh, the Hulk movies sucked, and I did think CA, was pretty good. Also, The Avengers was good, not TDK good though. If you are going back to X-men and SM, then X-men were good, X2 was ok, X3 sucked, Wolverine was ehhh, SM was good, SM2 was ok, and SM3 sucked.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 11:15 AM

Not at all. I am saying stop planning on the grandiose scale of introducing all the characters first and then the team up film. Just put all the planning and prep into the team up film itself. These characters are all known. Why bother with all the background information about how they got their powers or whatnot? Just plan on a good story about the team as a whole and go with that.

Sorry, but that statement is untrue. The vast majority of the movie-going public do not know these characters nor their origins. Origin sotries may be a necessary evil to some, but they are necessary.

If people don't know who they are, they won't care about them.

In The Godfather, they didn't have to show how he came into power. They just created a good story. In Star Wars, they just jumped into Episode IV of the whole story. There was no need to show how Don Corelone or Darth Vader got their respective starts. And those characters were unknown at the time. Everyone knows the major players from the DC comics.

And they also never had to talk about powers and abilities that the characters had or how they came to have them. Again, the vast majority do not know the characters outside of Batman and Superman.

I am all for planning. I'd rather they plan for one movie than trying to plan for 4 or 5 to make it all work. If done right, a team up film can work well and does not require lead up films.

Strongly disagree.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 11:16 AM

ATM, idk. BB,TDK,TRKR were pretty good. IM and IM2, were ok. Thor was ehhh, the Hulk movies sucked, and I did think CA, was pretty good. Also, The Avengers was good, not TDK good though. If you are going back to X-men and SM, then X-men were good, X2 was ok, X3 sucked, Wolverine was ehhh, SM was good, SM2 was ok, and SM3 sucked.

So the score would be about 14-3 then?

:confused:

joseephuss

08-09-2012, 11:32 AM

So the score would be about 14-3 then?

:confused:

14-5 Both Fantastic Four movies were poor.

joseephuss

08-09-2012, 11:43 AM

Sorry, but that statement is untrue. The vast majority of the movie-going public do not know these characters nor their origins. Origin sotries may be a necessary evil to some, but they are necessary.

If people don't know who they are, they won't care about them.

They will know Superman and Batman. They will even know Green Lantern since that was out last year. The rest can just ride on the main characters coattails.

They didn't do any back story on either the Black Widow or Hawkeye and still had them as part of The Avengers. People will care about the characters if it is a good story. Knowing their background isn't a necessity for that. It can help, but it isn't required. And if it has to be done, then it can be a small part. Superman, Batman and GL have been introduced. You are talking about coming up with back stories for maybe 2 more characters. That can be done in one movie.

A good story is a good story. If they put together a good story, it will do well. Sharing the origin of how Green Lantern got his powers didn't make that a good movie. In X-Men, they didn't go back and show Cyclops, Jean Grey or Storm first discovering their powers. They just went with it.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 12:00 PM

They will know Superman and Batman. They will even know Green Lantern since that was out last year. The rest can just ride on the main characters coattails.

Maybe, If they keep established continuity with Bale/Gordon-Levitt and Ryan Reynolds.

But don't expect many to care about the coattail riders.

They didn't do any back story on either the Black Widow or Hawkeye and still had them as part of The Avengers. People will care about the characters if it is a good story. Knowing their background isn't a necessity for that. It can help, but it isn't required. And if it has to be done, then it can be a small part. Superman, Batman and GL have been introduced. You are talking about coming up with back stories for maybe 2 more characters. That can be done in one movie.

But the characters had been introduced in prior films. Black Widow in Iron Man 2 and Hawkeye in Thor. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Hawkeye and Black Widow were definitely supporting characters, standing behind the Big Four which did have their own films. Are you OK with Wonder Woman being relegated to that background role?

A good story is a good story. If they put together a good story, it will do well. Sharing the origin of how Green Lantern got his powers didn't make that a good movie. In X-Men, they didn't go back and show Cyclops, Jean Grey or Storm first discovering their powers. They just went with it.

Very true. And that's a good example of what you're talking about. That said, other than Wolverine, folks didn't really much care too much about anyone else outside that trilogy.

joseephuss

08-09-2012, 12:21 PM

Maybe, If they keep established continuity with Bale/Gordon-Levitt and Ryan Reynolds.

Are you saying they would need to do another Batman movie before they do a Justice League movie?

DallasEast

08-09-2012, 12:54 PM

Maybe, If they keep established continuity with Bale/Gordon-Levitt and Ryan Reynolds.Please please please let the movie gods prevent Reynolds from reprising his Hal Jordan character! He can jump over to Marvel and do Deadpool instead. That character fits his acting ability perfectly. Green Lantern? He definitely looks the part, but that's as good as it gets with him.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 12:59 PM

Are you saying they would need to do another Batman movie before they do a Justice League movie?

No!

But I feel they would have to use either of the actors from the Nolan trilogy.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 01:03 PM

Please please please let the movie gods prevent Reynolds from reprising his Hal Jordan character! He can jump over to Marvel and do Deadpool instead. That character fits his acting ability perfectly. Green Lantern? He definitely looks the part, but that's as good as it gets with him.

I'm not sure I'd put that mess entirely on him. I think Martin Campbell and mutiple screenwriters very much share in the blame.

I think a good director could get a good performance from Reynolds, at least in the ensemble Justice League film.

I think it's vitally important that a Justice League film bring in the actors now recognized as the iconic DC characters.

DallasEast

08-09-2012, 01:24 PM

I'm not sure I'd put that mess entirely on him. I think Martin Campbell and mutiple screenwriters very much share in the blame.

I think a good director could get a good performance from Reynolds, at least in the ensemble Justice League film.

I think it's vitally important that a Justice League film bring in the actors now recognized as the iconic DC characters.

I have not watched all of Ryan Reynolds' movies, but the character that he has played in the movies I have seen all remind me of one:

Van Wilder

Before Green Lantern debuted, I believe I mentioned on this board how I feared Reynolds inability to adopt Jordan's persona. Lo and behold, he made my fear come true in my opinion. So, even though I also had a few issues with the movie outside of Reynolds, such as Blake Lively as Carol Ferris, I am able to judge Reynolds' performance separately from. And I do not believe better direction can help him with this role. If it does, I'll change my tune, but I highly doubt Reynolds has it within him to do so.

StevenOtero

08-09-2012, 01:31 PM

It will fail regardless....Marvel>>>>>DCAh, how typical. I guess for some it's impossible to like both.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 01:42 PM

I have not watched all of Ryan Reynolds' movies, but the character that he has played in the movies I have seen all remind me of one:

Van Wilder

Before Green Lantern debuted, I believe I mentioned on this board how I feared Reynolds inability to adopt Jordan's persona. Lo and behold, he made my fear come true in my opinion. So, even though I also had a few issues with the movie outside of Reynolds, such as Blake Lively as Carol Ferris, I am able to judge Reynolds' performance separately from. And I do not believe better direction can help him with this role. If it does, I'll change my tune, but I highly doubt Reynolds has it within him to do so.

Again, I obviously can't prove my theory on this one, but I think you'll agree that the screenwriting and direction didn't do him any favors.

But I think for better or worse, the die has been cast.

He is Green Lantern.

As Christian Bale is Batman. (though I think the end of Rises gives them the Gordon-Levitt option as well)

And next summer Henry Cavill is Superman.

Unless you're going to re-boot either of those two characters, I think those are the options you have.

DallasEast

08-09-2012, 02:05 PM

Again, I obviously can't prove my theory on this one, but I think you'll agree that the screenwriting and direction didn't do him any favors.

But I think for better or worse, the die has been cast.

He is Green Lantern.

As Christian Bale is Batman. (though I think the end of Rises gives them the Gordon-Levitt option as well)

And next summer Henry Cavill is Superman.

Unless you're going to re-boot either of those two characters, I think those are the options you have.You know, technically, it is not required that Hal Jordan be the Green Lantern of sector 2814. The job could go to John Stewart, Guy Gardner or Kyle Rayner...

Just me being ornery. :p:

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 02:15 PM

You know, technically, it is not required that Hal Jordan be the Green Lantern of sector 2814. The job could go to John Stewart, Guy Gardner or Kyle Rayner...

Just me being ornery. :p:

Yeah, but for the vast majority, they just got introduced to that guy being Green Lantern.

Suddenly telling them it's someone else will only confuse them and likely make them simply tune out on the character.

Although, what the heck, Marvel was able to do it exceptionally well with Mark Ruffalo and the Hulk so maybe they could do it with one of the top characters?

I do think that it would be more difficult to pull off though as half the time, Hulk/Banner isn't even played by a real person.

I've just seen studio execs make too many foolish decisions and ruin good things to give them the benefit of the doubt.

DallasEast

08-09-2012, 02:21 PM

Yeah, but for the vast majority, they just got introduced to that guy being Green Lantern.

Suddenly telling them it's someone else will only confuse them and likely make them simply tune out on the character.

Although, what the heck, Marvel was able to do it exceptionally well with Mark Ruffalo and the Hulk so maybe they could do it with one of the top characters?

I do think that it would be more difficult to pull off though as half the time, Hulk/Banner isn't even played by a real person.

I've just seen studio execs make too many foolish decisions and ruin good things to give them the benefit of the doubt.It might not prove too much of a problem if GL is seen wearing his mask for the majority of all of the Justice League movie...

Sorry. I'm grasping at any straws which would keep Reynolds from re-playing Jordan in ANY movie.

stasheroo

08-09-2012, 02:27 PM

It might not prove too much of a problem if GL is seen wearing his mask for the majority of all of the Justice League movie...

Sorry. I'm grasping at any straws which would keep Reynolds from re-playing Jordan in ANY movie.

I can see why and honestly I don't blame you.

But again, I point to it as yet another example of what studio execs can get horribly wrong.

And they don't find out how wrong until $250 million later.

joseephuss

08-10-2012, 12:16 PM

So the score would be about 14-3 then?

:confused:

I forgot about Steel starring Shaquille O'Neal. Another DC classic. Actually, I didn't forget about it. I didn't even know that movie happened until I was looking something up earlier today and came across it. Glad I missed that one.

CashMan

08-10-2012, 02:11 PM

I forgot about Steel starring Shaquille O'Neal. Another DC classic. Actually, I didn't forget about it. I didn't even know that movie happened until I was looking something up earlier today and came across it. Glad I missed that one.

I think we are talking about more recent, I think starting with X-men, and you have to throw in the GR movies which sucked, Watchmen?, and the stand alone SM(which I liked).

joseephuss

08-10-2012, 02:22 PM

I think we are talking about more recent, I think starting with X-men, and you have to throw in the GR movies which sucked, Watchmen?, and the stand alone SM(which I liked).

What is GR?

CashMan

08-10-2012, 06:12 PM

What is GR?

Give me a moment to figure that out....

Ghost Rider

BrAinPaiNt

08-10-2012, 10:17 PM

I think we are talking about more recent, I think starting with X-men, and you have to throw in the GR movies which sucked, Watchmen?, and the stand alone SM(which I liked).

Blade movies as well.

BrAinPaiNt

08-10-2012, 10:23 PM

I have always felt that Marvel was better overall but especially in the area of super hero GROUPS.

In the comic book world The Avengers were cool, The X Men were cool and the Fantastic four were cool...I always thought the Justice League was cheesy if any one of the groups that DC had that I liked back in the day it was the New Teen Titans...but even those were not as good as marvel and in some ways even tried to take from the Xmen from what I recall.

I personally think the Justice League movie would be a disaster.

Most modern kids don't really care much for superman, heck I knew many back in my teens that did not care for Superman. Wonder woman was killer eye candy when Lynda Carter played her but other than that I don't remember too many guys thinking she was cool. Aqua man was cheesy. The only two main characters in the Justice League that most guys thought were cool back in the day was Batman and Green Lantern.

Reality

08-10-2012, 10:33 PM

Most modern kids don't really care much for superman, heck I knew many back in my teens that did not care for Superman. Wonder woman was killer eye candy when Lynda Carter played her but other than that I don't remember too many guys thinking she was cool. Aqua man was cheesy. The only two main characters in the Justice League that most guys thought were cool back in the day was Batman and Green Lantern.

I was not really into super heroes when I grew up mainly because my only exposure to them were with Saturday morning Justice League cartoons and 1960s/1970s TV show reruns like Batman and Wonder Woman. All of them had a "goody two-shoes" feel to them and while I did watch them from time to time, they really weren't exciting to me.

The recent Batman movies and the even the Spiderman movies with Tobey McGuire were great movies and really piqued my interest in superheroes. Unfortunately, the new Twilight'ed Amazing Spiderman and I am sure similar upcoming Twilight'ed superhero movies are a step backward at least to me personally.

#reality

BrAinPaiNt

08-10-2012, 10:46 PM

I was not really into super heroes when I grew up mainly because my only exposure to them were with Saturday morning Justice League cartoons and 1960s/1970s TV show reruns like Batman and Wonder Woman. All of them had a "goody two-shoes" feel to them and while I did watch them from time to time, they really weren't exciting to me.

The recent Batman movies and the even the Spiderman movies with Tobey McGuire were great movies and really piqued my interest in superheroes. Unfortunately, the new Twilight'ed Amazing Spiderman and I am sure similar upcoming Twilight'ed superhero movies are a step backward at least to me personally.

#reality

I hated the earlier Batman movies via Burton...over the top cartoonish similar to the old TV show.

The Nolan versions I have enjoyed.

Honestly did not care that much for the Spiderman movies at all. Also hate the idea that they have to do a reboot every few spiderman movies. As much as I have love for the marvel comics...spiderman was never one of the ones I cared for so it is hard for me to get into the spiderman movies to start with.

The Hulk movies were kind of bad except for the one with Norton.

Funny about the Capt America and Thor movies.

When there were coming out I had it in my mind I would like the Thor one but not the Capt America one as Capt America is one of those heroes that I normally found Cheesy. Thor on the other hand was a warrior. Turns out the thor movie sucked and the Capt America one was much better.

I think the Avengers has done the best so far as a group movie with The last xmen one. The Fantastic four movies were meh but I still liked the second one just because of the Silver Surfer.

Personally think it would be cool if marvel eventually did a Secret Wars style movie where all of the marvel heroes and villains wind up fighting in a neutral area.

Ok...my old school comic book geekdom is coming out. Thankfully I quit buying them as a youth or I would be poorer than I already am. :laugh2:

CowboyMike

08-10-2012, 11:11 PM

I think we are talking about more recent, I think starting with X-men, and you have to throw in the GR movies which sucked, Watchmen?, and the stand alone SM(which I liked).

What was wrong with Watchmen? Aside from two alterations, it was pretty much word for word to the novel. It's probably the truest to origin 'superhero' movie out there at the moment, imo.

CashMan

08-10-2012, 11:11 PM

What was wrong with Watchmen? Aside from two alterations, it was pretty much word for word to the novel. It's probably the truest to origin 'superhero' movie out there at the moment, imo.

Didn't say anything negative about it.

CowboyMike

08-10-2012, 11:14 PM

Didn't say anything negative about it.

Ah. I misunderstood your post. My apologies.

Manwiththeplan

08-11-2012, 06:59 AM

No!

But I feel they would have to use either of the actors from the Nolan trilogy.

I disagree, the audience wouldn't be able to connect to a non bruce wayne batman without that character being fully explored. doesn't have to be Bale, but cannot be joeseph gordon levitt.

stasheroo

08-11-2012, 01:26 PM

I disagree, the audience wouldn't be able to connect to a non bruce wayne batman without that character being fully explored. doesn't have to be Bale, but cannot be joeseph gordon levitt.

Then the momentum gained by Nolan's trilogy is essentially squandered.

All of the coolness and affection for the series will be erased and the 'new guy' will be starting from square one and fans will have a 'show me' stance about it.