Cowboys/Eagle Trade Possible? [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Avery

04-20-2005, 05:20 PM

From Yahoo sports:

The Philadelphia Eagles moving up in the first round.

Eagles coach Andy Reid has traded up in both of the last two drafts and has ample ammunition this year to make similar moves. With pairs of picks in both the second and third rounds, and concerns at the defensive line and wide receiver spot, it is almost a certainty Reid will put together a package of picks to move up from the 31st overall choice. Two likely targets are the Cincinnati Bengals at No 17 and Dallas Cowboys at No. 20.

That means we'd move down to #31. The question is what do we get in return if it happened

The30YardSlant

04-20-2005, 05:20 PM

Only if they give up #31 and #35.

Pabst

04-20-2005, 05:23 PM

Maybe go after Clayton or Williamson, if either are still there?

I wouldn't feel good about trading with division rivals. Granted, it happened in '96 and '99, but if they pickup an impact player at 20, would really stink.

Cowboy from New York

04-20-2005, 05:25 PM

It would have to be a no-brainer, hell of a steal type of trade to help out a divisional opponent. Particularly the one who has dominated the east for several years and kicked the snot out of us time and again.

InmanRoshi

04-20-2005, 05:30 PM

Fair compensation ...

Cowboys would get

1st #31 (600)
3rd #77 (205)
4th #132 (40)

Point total … 845

Eagles get

1st #20 (850)

Point total … (850)

Cowboy from New York

04-20-2005, 05:33 PM

I'm not interested in fair compensation for a player that would fill a hole for a main competitor and who we would be facing twice a year.

edwardo

04-20-2005, 05:34 PM

Only if they give up #31 and #35.

Wet Dream; we take this in heart beat. This means we would end up with our number one at eleven, Philly's number one at 31; Miami's number two now owned by Philly at 35, and our number two at 42. Four of the top 42; cool. We could get speed rusher D. Ware, muscle beach DE M. Spears, a wide receiver M. Clayton, and a corner, safety or linebacker -- ALL IN TOP 42. This would be killer.

Or, we could forego the speed rusher, trade the eleven spot for Green Bay's number one at twenty four in exchange for Green Bay's number one next year and a three and five this year and let Green Bay pick their quarterback or running back at eleven.

Wolverine

04-20-2005, 05:34 PM

If we trade with the Eagles then I would say get their 2nd rounder and their 1st rounder in the 2006 draft. Worse that could hap is they win the Super Bowl and we get the last pick of the 1st round with it. That wouldnt be so bad. Next years draft will be better. So even if we get #32 next year it will surely be better then what we can get at #31 this year.

And who knows what kinda bad luck the Eagles could have. We could end up with a higher pick to. Either their 1st rounder of 2006 and a 2nd rounder this year or no deal.

Portland Fanatic

04-20-2005, 05:35 PM

Fair compensation ...

Cowboys would get

1st #31 (600)
3rd #77 (205)
4th #132 (40)

Point total … 845

Eagles get

1st #20 (850)

Point total … (850)

No way for that....only 31 and 35....

Portland Fanatic

04-20-2005, 05:37 PM

InmanRoshi

04-20-2005, 05:38 PM

I'm not interested in fair compensation for a player that would fill a hole for a main competitor and who we would be facing twice a year.

And nor do the Eagles care about that ... they'll have plenty of suitors to trade up with who will give them fair value if you want to make some idealic stand on principle. The 20th-35th picks will be a buyer's market.

Cajuncowboy

04-20-2005, 05:40 PM

I'm not interested in fair compensation for a player that would fill a hole for a main competitor and who we would be facing twice a year.

Yeah, I agree. If they want this pick from us then they have to pay up BIG TIME. I want 1st, 2nd This year and a third next year. IF they don't like it they can hit the road and sit by and watch the player they want get nabbed in front of them.

ravidubey

04-20-2005, 05:41 PM

Good trade for both the Cowboys and Eagles, depending on who has fallen to #20.

If a special player does not drop to 20, then who can tell if this is a bad move or good one? The Eagles are more likely to find at least one good player with 1st (31), 3rd (77), and 4th (132) round picks than they are at 20.

If Mike Williams or an excellent defensive player has slid there, Dallas should draft him. Otherwise why not pick up more picks? 20-30 are about the same, so dropping from 20 to 31 and picking up more chances to strike gold is not a bad thing.

jswalker1981

04-20-2005, 05:50 PM

I definitely think that they should give us #31 and #35, if not an extra pick either in this draft or a third in next year's draft. They are jumping up 11 spots, and are trading with someone that they have stomped over for the last several years.

Crown Royal

04-20-2005, 05:53 PM

I see suggestions for taking their 1st for next year. Not gonna happen. Their next year's first isn't worth a lot - they are still a good team.

Wolverine

04-20-2005, 06:01 PM

I see suggestions for taking their 1st for next year. Not gonna happen. Their next year's first isn't worth a lot - they are still a good team.

Their 1st this year is #31. The worse that could hap is the win it all and we would get #32 next year. Id rather have #32 next year instead of #31 this year since there will be more talent in the 2006 draft.

Worse that could hap is we get #32 which is better then #31 this year.

Best that could hap is they have a real bad and off year and we get somethin between #20 and #25.

Crown Royal

04-20-2005, 06:07 PM

Their 1st this year is #31. The worse that could hap is the win it all and we would get #32 next year. Id rather have #32 next year instead of #31 this year since there will be more talent in the 2006 draft.

Worse that could hap is we get #32 which is better then #31 this year.

Best that could hap is they have a real bad and off year and we get somethin between #20 and #25.

Odds are their pick will be somewhere between 22-31 (lets be honest, no SB in their future). Why would I trade a 20 this year away for something like that, when I could probably get better value for their picks in this year's draft, when they have a multitude of picks?

I would propose their 1st this year, # 35 (from the Dolphins) and their 5th? I dunno the point value off the top of my head...

Portland Fanatic

04-20-2005, 06:13 PM

Odds are their pick will be somewhere between 22-31 (lets be honest, no SB in their future). Why would I trade a 20 this year away for something like that, when I could probably get better value for their picks in this year's draft, when they have a multitude of picks?

I would propose their 1st this year, # 35 (from the Dolphins) and their 5th? I dunno the point value off the top of my head...

If we had 31, 35, 42...that's Tuck, Castillo, Pool or Bullock.

Hmmmmm....kinda liking that. Tuck has major upside in both 4-3 and 3-4...and I want Castillo as 3-4 DE or at least rotate with Fergi and Glover. HE will be good.

Wolverine

04-20-2005, 06:15 PM

Odds are their pick will be somewhere between 22-31 (lets be honest, no SB in their future). Why would I trade a 20 this year away for something like that, when I could probably get better value for their picks in this year's draft, when they have a multitude of picks?

I would propose their 1st this year, # 35 (from the Dolphins) and their 5th? I dunno the point value off the top of my head...

Im sayin get their 1st rounder next year and get their 2nd rounder of this year. We get a extra 2nd this year the #35 and then have a 1st rounder in 2006 with more talent in it.

Crown Royal

04-20-2005, 06:18 PM

Im sayin get their 1st rounder next year and get their 2nd rounder of this year. We get a extra 2nd this year the #35 and then have a 1st rounder in 2006 with more talent in it.

Add this year's 4th and I consider that....

Derinyar

04-20-2005, 06:29 PM

It could likely be something like 20 for 31, their 63, and somehting next year(maybe a 2nd). Other possiblities are 20 for 35, their 5th and a 1st next.

If you are going to calculate draft numbers do remember that as far as value charts are concerned 31 this next year is equivalent to 63 this year. Frankly I don't see there being much difference between 31 and 35, gotta love it when someone rips off the stupid.

Wolverine

04-20-2005, 06:29 PM

Add this year's 4th and I consider that....

Think about this. We trade down for the #31 pick this year we are movin down 11 spots. We get their 1st rounder in 2006 you never know what can hap. Maybe we get the #20 pick again and we have better talent to choose from. Even if we got the #25 pick next year we would still be movin down few spots then this year.

Id be lovin it if we could get the 1st rounder of 2006 their #35 pick this year and a 4th. If we can pull that off we cant pass on that.

InmanRoshi

04-20-2005, 06:39 PM

Someone will have to explain to me again why Philly would pay through the nose to get Dallas' pick when almost every team in the draft is looking to trade down.

Vertigo_17

04-20-2005, 08:37 PM

never trade with the enemy...

TheSkaven

04-20-2005, 08:38 PM

The Eagles' VP of Player Personnel Tom Heckert was on the radio station this evening. He spoke to the local audience, basically said that he thought this was a really weak draft 1 through 15 and would in no way, shape, or form be looking to move up. Could be a smoke screen but it was a local radio show, sounds legit. And he's right, I pity the teams 1 through 5 who have to give all that money to some questionable talent.

ghst187

04-20-2005, 08:48 PM

I'd be extremely surprised if our division and bitter rival with a huge Cowchip on their shoulders about us come to us hoping to make a deal...AND then we actually make a deal with the devil...not seein it..
nonetheless, in the spirit of playing along...I'd take their 31 and 35 and their 3rd rounder and give them our 20 and 6th.