Pat Kirwan on NFL Network

[Dale]

Said he expects Dallas and Minnesota to be the big winners Saturday because they have multiple picks and needs that match the talent that will likely be available at their picks.

Kirwan mentioned Ware, Spears and Pool as three guys we might get with our top three picks.

He also said Anthony Thomas, or a guy like him, could affect a few teams' outlook on draft day. Named Philly, another team and "maybe even" Dallas as teams that he might attract (seemed like pure speculation more than something he has heard).

[Sarge]

Said he expects Dallas and Minnesota to be the big winners Saturday

Please let us not be jinxed.

[k19]

Please let us not be jinxed.

please please please


Sup Sarge

[Cbz40]

We will be winners at days end Saturday......I can't wait Sarge.

[Dale]

Please let us not be jinxed.

Yeah I was thinking that too. All we need is the expectation that we'll have a huge draft, only to pull a Tony Dixon.

[Sarge]

please please please


Sup Sarge

Evening sir, you too Pops/Dale.

Time draws near.

[Rack Bauer]

Please let us not be jinxed.


*knocks on wood*

[big dog cowboy]

Perhaps BP and JJ realize the need to score big this year and will go more for the sure thing instead of reaching for some questionable players. I hate to use the word conservative, but we should approach Saturday with a clear, well thought out plan. I am expecting 4 quality players who will really help us out starting this year. It's time, actually past time, to really hit a home run in a draft.

[Sarge]

*knocks on wood*

Keep knockin' Rack. We need not blow this one.

[Rack Bauer]

Keep knockin' Rack. We need not blow this one.


I'm telling you, I literally knocked on wood after reading that.


And I'm gonna do it again. I think I'll burn some candles tonight and pray to the football gods. Maybe even sacrifice a possum for them or something.


I can't stand the feeling of excitement and fear (of us screwing up) boiling over in my stomach.

[Sarge]

Perhaps BP and JJ realize the need to score big this year and will go more for the sure thing instead of reaching for some questionable players. I hate to use the word conservative, but we should approach Saturday with a clear, well thought out plan. I am expecting 4 quality players who will really help us out starting this year. It's time, actually past time, to really hit a home run in a draft.

I have thought this as well and that is the ONLY reason I haven't rules out Spears at 11.

He may not be Charles Haley, but he certainly isn't Shante Carver.

I still say (adamantly) pass on Spears at #11. I've seen the guy play A LOT. He's good. He's not "11 good."

[Portland Fanatic]

Perhaps BP and JJ realize the need to score big this year and will go more for the sure thing instead of reaching for some questionable players. I hate to use the word conservative, but we should approach Saturday with a clear, well thought out plan. I am expecting 4 quality players who will really help us out starting this year. It's time, actually past time, to really hit a home run in a draft.

Something like a 500 ft HR...

[Rack Bauer]

I have thought this as well and that is the ONLY reason I haven't rules out Spears at 11.

He may not be Charles Haley, but he certainly isn't Shante Carver.

I still say (adamantly) pass on Spears at #11. I've seen the guy play A LOT. He's good. He's not "11 good."


I agree. Plus I think he'll be there at #20. I'd like to see us trade down about 2-4 spots from 11, draft Pollack (if he's there) and then take Spears at 20 (depending on who else is available).

[Nors]

I have a surreal calm about this draft. We are going to blitzkrieg it and score. I feel content we won't do stupid and reach at all. In fact we will take avoid less risky and take productive players that might annoy some as not flashy - But a solid and productive draft.

[Sarge]

I'm telling you, I literally knocked on wood after reading that.


And I'm gonna do it again. I think I'll burn some candles tonight and pray to the football gods. Maybe even sacrifice a possum for them or something.


I can't stand the feeling of excitement and fear (of us screwing up) boiling over in my stomach.

I'll freely admit - I'm more scared this year than excited. I'll continue to be concerned/scared afterward as well, until I see what transpires on the field with the players selected..

I'm simply not sold on any of these guys, except DJ/MW which won't be an option(s) presumably.

[Crown Royal]

I'll freely admit - I'm more scared this year than excited. I'll continue to be concerned/scared afterward as well, until I see what transpires on the field with the players selected..

I'm simply not sold on any of these guys, except DJ/MW which won't be an option(s) presumably.

I'm terrified, just because I don't have a good feel for the talent of this draft. Especially up high....

[Sarge]

I agree. Plus I think he'll be there at #20. I'd like to see us trade down about 2-4 spots from 11, draft Pollack (if he's there) and then take Spears at 20 (depending on who else is available).

I could live with that and it's fairly plausible.

[big dog cowboy]

Something like a 500 ft HR...
ina 400 foot yard....... :D

[Sarge]

I'm terrified, just because I don't have a good feel for the talent of this draft. Especially up high....

That's exactly how I feel. Too many question marks on most of these guys.

[big dog cowboy]

I'll freely admit - I'm more scared this year than excited.
Well put. But I feel the drafting gods will be with us this year. I'm not sure why. One guarantee - the 15 minutes we are on the clock at #11 will be pure hell.

[Sarge]

Well put. But I feel the drafting gods will be with us this year. I'm not sure why. One guarantee - the 15 minutes we are on the clock at #11 will be pure hell.

No doubt BD and there is no doubt we'll be using that entire 15 minutes.

I'll be a wreck, as we all will.

[Dale]

I'm terrified, just because I don't have a good feel for the talent of this draft. Especially up high....

Great point, CR. I can definitely envision a similar feel this year to when we took Julius last year. A little bit of shock, disappointment but then also hope because the guy we take has some promise.

There are just so many players we 'could' take, and at both picks. There's no way even 1/3 of the crowd will be satisfied. And more importantly, the popular pick may not turn out to be the right one.

DeMarcus Ware is a hot name right now, but it's very possible Pollack turns out to be the better player -- or visa versa. It's true every year, but really stands out this year since there is a such a large group of players clumped together.

[fishspill]

Kirwan mentioned Ware, Spears and Pool as three guys we might get with our top three picks.

That would be quite a haul.

Spears at #20 and Pool at #42. Wow.

[big dog cowboy]

There are just so many players we 'could' take, and at both picks. There's no way even 1/3 of the crowd will be satisfied.
A point that will probably be well represented on Saturday.

[Native Born Fan]

I saw this too and wanted to check if it had been posted. Is he using? Was he high? If he is right we will have made the steal of the draft. (If Ware is the pass rusher he is being hyped as.)

[k19]

I'm terrified, just because I don't have a good feel for the talent of this draft. Especially up high....


Neither do the "experts" thats why teams like Miami are begging to trade down

[CowboyChris]

if we stick to our board and make a selection at #11, #20, and #42 we should come out of this with a high grade, if we try and get too cute or trade for future picks our grade will suffer.

[Rack Bauer]

if we stick to our board and make a selection at #11, #20, and #42 we should come out of this with a high grade, if we try and get too cute or trade for future picks our grade will suffer.


Yeah, but I'm pretty sure we'll trade down anyway with one of those picks. Hopefully the #11 pick since I see the talent from 11-17 about equal.

[Dale]

if we stick to our board and make a selection at #11, #20, and #42 we should come out of this with a high grade, if we try and get too cute or trade for future picks our grade will suffer.

I think preliminary draft grades this year will be as meaningless as ever. I mean, really now, how are any media people realistically and accurately supposed to distinguish between the potential of taking a Merriman at 11 versus taking Ware?

I do agree if we start trading around, our grade will suffer. I'm just saying I don't know that it will be that meaningful.

Remember last year a lot of people said we were stupid for trading down when Jones and Jackson were there. Not that Julius was a bad pick, but that the Cowboys simply couldn't pass on those guys. Yet wasn't Rogers considered a generally safe pick?

Or how about the '02 draft, when everyone loved what we did?

As long as we don't pull a Tony Dixon or Dwayne Goodrich card, we should be OK. And with Parcells in charge, even if a poor pick is made, it shouldn't (hopefully?) be an entirely head-scratching selection.

[big dog cowboy]

As long as we don't pull a Tony Dixon or Dwayne Goodrich card, we should be OK.
Those days are behind us. :D

[DWAREZ]

We will be fine if we do not reach and select the best value available player with our picks ....but grading the draft will take 3 years or so unless it is an obvious catastrophe all around IMO

[trickblue]

Something like a 500 ft HR...

No baseball analogies please... read your user guidelines... :rolleyes:

[Hostile]

I'm telling you, I literally knocked on wood after reading that.


And I'm gonna do it again. I think I'll burn some candles tonight and pray to the football gods. Maybe even sacrifice a possum for them or something.


I can't stand the feeling of excitement and fear (of us screwing up) boiling over in my stomach.I am going to go on a Fast Friday night.

[Nors]

I sacrificed the possum for the team tonight.

[Hostile]

I sacrificed the possum for the team tonight.Are you telling us you're celibate until the draft is over?

[edwardo]

I'll freely admit - I'm more scared this year than excited. I'll continue to be concerned/scared afterward as well, until I see what transpires on the field with the players selected..

I'm simply not sold on any of these guys, except DJ/MW which won't be an option(s) presumably.

I have this feeling too; thus, the idea that we move back on both picks; end up with two ones late in round (say Green Bay and Philly) but add boatloads of extra picks in second and third, and maybe some next year to boot. We could add a corner this way, and a right tackle or running back. And, still hit on defensive line help. Sometimes I forget we have Glover, Ellis, and now Fergeson . . . this is some talent and if you add two relatively high picks out of this upcoming draft, you don't have to select at eleven or even twenty to add the type of talent necessary to bolster the line. The numbers seem fairly great so far in the value being surrendered to move into the the first round. I pass on the top picks if we can add more picks, lots of 'em.

[Phrozen Phil]

I have consulted my Guru Babarumraisin and he has sacrificed a goat, examined it's entrails and informed me that Dallas will most assuredly "Kick Butt"

[AsthmaField]

Are you telling us you're celibate until the draft is over?



:lmao2:

[SuspectCorner]

I have consulted my Guru Babarumraisin and he has sacrificed a goat, examined it's entrails and informed me that Dallas will most assuredly "Kick Butt"
wasn't baba rumraisin a character "national lampoon magazine" used in their 70's issues. i swear he was. :D