WVU, how good are they?

[Aikbach]

Haven't been able to watch them against top competition, not sure if they'll face top competition next week either considering Baylor's poor run defense.

I know Geno Smith is a Heisman candidate, the real deal, something special. I know his wideouts are highly regarded and Austin is a first round prospect, and his partner ain't bad either in tandem downfield.

I know nothing about he WVU defense or running game so i can't judge those, but they are 3-0 with convincing wins and carry a #8 rank.

So assuming they are indeed a top 10 team, which I don't doubt at this juncture, and with a home field advantage int their first ever Big 12 game, i think they have a considerable advantage over the Baylor Bears, who might crack the top 25 after this weekend.

Baylor in comparison has a porous run defense, marred by the most mediocre pass rush and containing defensive ends in Division 1 football in my estimation. Good linebackers, good corners though under sized and average safeties.

But the defensive line weakens every phase of the game and makes Baylor a 5 yard a carry prospect for WVU and with Geno at quarterback probably no less than 30 points.

The Baylor offense is lethal and versatile, it will probably score 4 to 6 times.
If Florence is given time he has a great quartet of wideouts, a good tight end and three good running-backs.

A very average and limited kicker mars special teams if it comes to that.

My limited assessment says it will be a bit of a shoot out next Saturday, but truthfully i do not know much about WVU's defense nor running game, the two biggest factors in giving them big advantage in the game.

At this time I think WVU is probably an 8 to 10 point favorite.

I don't really know how good Baylor is, WVU will reveal that one way or another.

My lack of knowledge in their running attack and defense leaves me unable to be more in-depth, so if you WVU fans know, please educate me...hopefully my Bears aren't educated by cleat marks.

[jobberone]

Talked with a big fan today for a short time. He thinks they have a chance at a national championship. Haven't seen the game today yet but I didn't argue with him.

[Aikbach]

Talked with a big fan today for a short time. He thinks they have a chance at a national championship. Haven't seen the game today yet but I didn't argue with him.
I dunno, but they probably are the second hardest game on the schedule behind OU.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Good deal of new starters on D. Completely new defensive staff.
They have given up too much yardage and a decent amount of points IMO but this last game was the closest points wise. I say all of this to indicate that the WVU vs Baylor game could be a barn burner that comes down to who has the ball last.
This game vs Maryland kind of sucked for our running game as one, if not the, main backs did not play due to a deep thigh bruise. In one of our earlier games we had a balanced offense with 300+ yards in the air as well as on the ground.

I also think some players were over looking Maryland and looking on to Baylor and our opening football game vs a Big 12 opponent.

I will say again it could be a barn burner that comes down to who has the ball last.

Now after saying that, watch it turn out to be a offensive mistake filled but good defensive game by both teams that ends with single digit points for both teams. :laugh1:

[Aikbach]

Good deal of new starters on D. Completely new defensive staff.
They have given up too much yardage and a decent amount of points IMO but this last game was the closest points wise. I say all of this to indicate that the WVU vs Baylor game could be a barn burner that comes down to who has the ball last.
This game vs Maryland kind of sucked for our running game as one, if not the, main backs did not play due to a deep thigh bruise. In one of our earlier games we had a balanced offense with 300+ yards in the air as well as on the ground.

I also think some players were over looking Maryland and looking on to Baylor and our opening football game vs a Big 12 opponent.

I will say again it could be a barn burner that comes down to who has the ball last.

Now after saying that, watch it turn out to be a offensive mistake filled but good defensive game by both teams that ends with single digit points for both teams. :laugh1:That would be wild and unexpected. Check out this OU and Kansas St, game though, Wildcats are playing out of their minds, defensive slugging.

[SkinsandTerps]

WVU just beat the Terps without their starting QB...
And the Terps are not that good.

Ehhh...

[jterrell]

WVU is the best team in the country IMO.

They have BY FAR the best college QB. People talking up Barkley and Landry were honestly folks who didn't watch them much or were insanely biased. Both very solid players but Geno Smith is hands down the best offensive player in the country and its very likely the 2nd best happens to be Tavon Austin.

WVU is average defensively but they have an offense that can hang 30 on Alabama.

As far as today it was rumored WVU was going to work on some specific aspects of their game and it would be close.

WVU is basically Oregon with a great QB.

[Questfor6]

Being a Mountaineer fan ill say that this offense is better than any team in the country when at full strength. Starting RB Alston went out early today & the running game suffered mightly because of it. Geno right now is a better pure passer than any other QB in the country, hands down. The wide receiver core is stacked, I think they can go about 10 deep if needed. Austin & Bailey > Marquies Lee & Robert Woods hands down.

The defense like BP said alot of new starters & a new scheme this year is causing some confusion for the players, but the D has scored 2 TD's this year in 3 games. I think the D is good enough to make a couple of stops a game to allow the offense to WIN the game. This team has a chance to be special but I don't know right now if they're good enough to beat Alabama, other than that I think they can beat any team in the country.

[Aikbach]

Hope it's a good game, both teams are untested this year against top competition, i hope they provide it for one another. On paper WVU has the edge.

[The30YardSlant]

WVU's offense is great (though they were off today). Their defense is at best average and below average more often than not. They'll win several 56-38 type games in the Big XII this year IMO.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

They're a very good football team, but it's too early to say they're the best team in the Nation IMO.

[danielofthesaints]

Alabama > WV

[Sam I Am]

Best in the nation? That's a leap. They are very good, but I'm not sure they could beat Alabama.

[Biggems]

WVU is the best team in the country IMO.

They have BY FAR the best college QB. People talking up Barkley and Landry were honestly folks who didn't watch them much or were insanely biased. Both very solid players but Geno Smith is hands down the best offensive player in the country and its very likely the 2nd best happens to be Tavon Austin.

WVU is average defensively but they have an offense that can hang 30 on Alabama.

As far as today it was rumored WVU was going to work on some specific aspects of their game and it would be close.

WVU is basically Oregon with a great QB.

pure speculation.....apparently you do not watch Alabama. They may not be an offensive juggernaut, but they an absolute fortress defensively....and since they almost never turn it over on offense or special teams, as well as have a ball control style offense, it makes their defense that much more formidable because it never seems to be put in a bad spot and it is always rested and fresh.

As far as being Oregon with a great QB.....play someone worth a darn. Oregon has throttled teams on offense and defense. Look at what they just did to Arizona, who trottled Oklahoma St. Meanwhile, WVU only beats a lowly Maryland team by 10.

I am not sold on this team, at least this season. Geno Smith is a very good QB. However, this team has not proven anything yet. They have yet to play Texas, OU, OSU, KSU, Baylor and TCU. With a lot to prove, I will not listen to the noise being made on their behalf. I cannot put them up there with Alabama, LSU, Oregon, Florida St., and even Notre Dame.

[Aikbach]

AP poll just came out, WVU will be #9 and Baylor comes in ranked #25, so it will be one of the best match ups of the week on paper.

Will be revelatory to what both teams are it would appear.

[WPBCowboysFan]

No way they can be the top team in the country.

They should have blown out a weak Terp team yesterday by 4 TD's at least and only won by 10.

MD is weak.

[jterrell]

various:

any discussion of number 1 is pure speculation.
my reasons are at least as logically sound as anyone else's.

in geno smith and tavon austin the WVU team has two top 15 NFL draft picks. that's no joke.

last year, the same wvu team lead by the same guys scored 21 versus LSU.
they could certainly score 30 on this Bama team.

bama allowed 14 to michigan. (a game i certainly watched... and it would have been more impressive if ND hadn't been even better defensively versus the same team) every other team that they have played has been atrocious. michigan is now a .500 football team. arkansas is 1-3 with 2 losses to non-BCS conference teams.

bama is a really good team and i'd love to see them face wvu but i'd pick wvu 31-28 right now.

[RS12]

They are as good as anybody on offense. That said on a neutral field they lose to Bama, LSU, Oregon and likely USC.

[WV Cowboy]

I am really curious to see WV open the Big 12 schedule this weekend, ... I'm glad it is in Morgantown.

Baylor, and the nation will see a different WVU team than Maryland saw.

They should not have, but I think they overlooked MD. And it was MD's Super Bowl. Every college football fan knows how border wars can go.

They won't overlook Baylor, .. hope that is good enough.

[Displaced Cowboy]

various:

any discussion of number 1 is pure speculation.
my reasons are at least as logically sound as anyone else's.

in geno smith and tavon austin the WVU team has two top 15 NFL draft picks. that's no joke.

last year, the same wvu team lead by the same guys scored 21 versus LSU.
they could certainly score 30 on this Bama team.

bama allowed 14 to michigan. (a game i certainly watched... and it would have been more impressive if ND hadn't been even better defensively versus the same team) every other team that they have played has been atrocious. michigan is now a .500 football team. arkansas is 1-3 with 2 losses to non-BCS conference teams.

bama is a really good team and i'd love to see them face wvu but i'd pick wvu 31-28 right now.

Tavon Austin is a 5th round pick not a top 15 pick.

[big dog cowboy]

WVU, how good are they?


We'll find out when they play K-St.

[WV Cowboy]

We'll find out when they play K-St.

I think we will know before that.

[Aikbach]

We'll find out when they play K-St.The Big 12 is a horse race, I'm just curious how good their horse is, is he a full head above the rest or just a nose. Saturday will be revelatory of both WVU and Baylor, neither who have cemented an identity for 2012 just yet.

[WV Cowboy]

The Big 12 is a horse race, I'm just curious how good their horse is, is he a full head above the rest or just a nose. Saturday will be revelatory of both WVU and Baylor, neither who have cemented an identity for 2012 just yet.

Saturday, .. WVU vs Baylor !!

:bow:

[DFWJC]

WVU is the best team in the country IMO.

They have BY FAR the best college QB. People talking up Barkley and Landry were honestly folks who didn't watch them much or were insanely biased. Both very solid players but Geno Smith is hands down the best offensive player in the country and its very likely the 2nd best happens to be Tavon Austin.

WVU is average defensively but they have an offense that can hang 30 on Alabama.

As far as today it was rumored WVU was going to work on some specific aspects of their game and it would be close.

WVU is basically Oregon with a great QB.:laugh2: Big 12 homer.
Hey, if i'm not mistaken, you get to remove that ACC banner at the end of the month!
Thanks for being cool about it.

[DFWJC]

I think we will know before that.
Agree.
At Texas follwoing the Baylor game could be a challenge.
Of course, Texas has to go to OK State and then play WVU ythe next week. So it works both ways.

[Phoenix]

Big 12 looking pretty darn strong...


Big 12 Standings (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/standings.asp?conf=1a%3A071) [/URL][URL="http://www.dallasnews.com/skins/dmn/gfx/arrow-blue-single.png"]http://www.dallasnews.com/skins/dmn/gfx/arrow-blue-single.png (http://www.dallasnews.com/skins/dmn/gfx/arrow-blue-single.png)
Big 12 Conference Overall
7 Kansas State (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0021) 1-0 4-0

15 TCU (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0085)1-0 3-0

25 Baylor (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0079)0-0 3-0

Texas Tech (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0086)0-0 3-0

12 Texas (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0083)0-0 3-0

9 West Virginia (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0017)0-0 3-0

Iowa State (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0019)0-0 3-0

Oklahoma State (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0025)0-0 2-1

16 Oklahoma (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0024) 0-1 2-1

Kansas (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0020)0-1 1-3

[jterrell]

:laugh2: Big 12 homer.
Hey, if i'm not mistaken, you get to remove that ACC banner at the end of the month!
Thanks for being cool about it.

fair enough on the homer call.

but i have watched wvu twice, bama, lsu, oregon, mich twice, nd twice, ou, kst twice, scar x2, florida, georgia, tcu twice....

wvu is the best team i have seen play by far. BY FAR.

bama has a dominating OL and a great defense but they are young on defense and skill positions on offense aren't equipped to win games.

lsu is very, very good but inconsistent series to series.

ND is very good as well thanks to the best defense they've fielded in a decade. but the "good" qb is just a baby and has to get better.

tavon austin is a r1 NFL draft pick without question. the "Experts" will all agree by the end of the year. yes he is small but he is both quick an fast. this is the next wes welker. like welker a former rb who is tougher than nails while being impossible to cover and possessing great hands.

[jterrell]

Big 12 looking pretty darn strong...


Big 12 Standings (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/standings.asp?conf=1a%3A071) [/URL][URL="http://www.dallasnews.com/skins/dmn/gfx/arrow-blue-single.png"]http://www.dallasnews.com/skins/dmn/gfx/arrow-blue-single.png (http://www.dallasnews.com/skins/dmn/gfx/arrow-blue-single.png)
Big 12 Conference Overall
7 Kansas State (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0021) 1-0 4-0

15 TCU (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0085)1-0 3-0

25 Baylor (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0079)0-0 3-0

Texas Tech (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0086)0-0 3-0

12 Texas (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0083)0-0 3-0

9 West Virginia (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0017)0-0 3-0

Iowa State (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0019)0-0 3-0

Oklahoma State (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0025)0-0 2-1

16 Oklahoma (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0024) 0-1 2-1

Kansas (http://dallasnews.stats.com/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0020)0-1 1-3

Herbstreit said it was as good as it has ever been and I can't disagree.
Iowa St and Tech are playing this weekend for a shot at the top half the conference. That's crazy depth.

Kansas is terrible but everyone else is very solid. OSU is playing some kids and will take some conference lumps but they'll still win 7 or 8 games.

KSt, TCU, OU, WVU are all surefire top 15 teams. UT, Bay, Tech, ISU are all top 30. OSU is top 40. That leaves just Kansas outside the top 40 teams in the country. Which is insane depth.

[Sam I Am]

I heard TCU kicks off the 2013 season at Cowboys stadium vs LSU.

[WV Cowboy]

but i have watched wvu twice, bama, lsu, oregon, mich twice, nd twice, ou, kst twice, scar x2, florida, georgia, tcu twice....

wvu is the best team i have seen play by far. BY FAR.

WOW, I wish I was as confident as you are. I do think WVU is very good, but anything can happen, ... and playing week in and week out in the Big 12 will be very challenging.

So far I like Dana Holgerson a lot too.

tavon austin is a r1 NFL draft pick without question. the "Experts" will all agree by the end of the year. yes he is small but he is both quick an fast. this is the next wes welker. like welker a former rb who is tougher than nails while being impossible to cover and possessing great hands.

Someone on this board, maybe in this thread, thinks TA is a 5th round NFL pick. I didn't even respond. I don't know how high he will go, but I think it will be before the 5th round.

[RS12]

Someone on this board, maybe in this thread, thinks TA is a 5th round NFL pick. I didn't even respond. I don't know how high he will go, but I think it will be before the 5th round.

Per Draft Scout 78th best player, 10th best WR, 2nd to 3rd round FWIW

78 Tavon Austin WR 10 West Virginia Sr 5-09 172 2-3

[WV Cowboy]

Per Draft Scout 78th best player, 10th best WR, 2nd to 3rd round FWIW

78 Tavon Austin WR 10 West Virginia Sr 5-09 172 2-3

And that may be legit.

But if he can stay healthy, .. with us playing on the National Stage of the Big 12, .. he will open some eyes.

The kid is special.

[Aikbach]

Should be a good game manana, all I want for my birthday is a baylor win :)

WVU is a good team.

[Chocolate Lab]

It's super early, halfway though the first quarter, but Baylor's D is holding up nicely so far. And their O went through WVU like a hot knife through butter.

WVU could still put up 50, though. Holgerson is some offensive mind.

[Aikbach]

baylor's defense played one good drive after the tip ball pick...but they've been absent since as i predicted...especially now that Goodson looks to have broken his arm.

Last one to score probably wins this one unless a slew of turnovers start.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Why the hell are they playing so damn early?

[The30YardSlant]

These two defenses are AWFUL.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

These two defenses are AWFUL.

That's being nice.

And another TD given up. Freaking pathetic. Feels like I'm playing Madden.

Hopefully my Longhorns play better defense than this tonight.

[DallasCowpoke]

These two defenses are AWFUL.

Wait, I was told...

wvu is the best team i have seen play by far. BY FAR.

You mean I've been duped? Say it ain't so!

[The30YardSlant]

Crazy to think that one stop in the third quarter could be the deciding factor, but at this rate one misstep and Baylor is going to be down 2 TDs.

[The30YardSlant]

Refs got that one wrong, definitely a fumble.

[DFWJC]

Wait, I was told...



You mean I've been duped? Say it ain't so!

Yeah
JT was a bit overboard there.
But just his opinion, so no big deal:D

Fwiw
Geno Smith does look very good w 5 TDs and no picks.
Current score is 42-35 WVU early in the 3rd
Zero defense here

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Defense sucks, but Geno Smith is a great football player.

[The30YardSlant]

This game is over. Looks like WVU made defensive adjustments. Baylor did not.

[DallasCowpoke]

Geno Smith does look very good w 5 TDs and no picks.


Yup, he is impressive. WVU O looks like TT @ their best and then some.

[The30YardSlant]

Yup, he is impressive. WVU O looks like TT @ their best and then some.

The biggest difference is they run the ball MUCH better than Tech ever did and they have a greater variety of plays. Tech's offense was bubble screens, crossing routes and comeback routes.

[DallasCowpoke]

The biggest difference is they run the ball MUCH better than Tech ever did and they have a greater variety of plays. Tech's offense was bubble screens, crossing routes and comeback routes.

True, but there were a few years tech, under the angry pirate, had a pretty serviceable running game. By no means balanced, but they did use it as a good change-of-pace that kept D-coordinators thinking.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

How does this guy keep getting wide freaking open? Have these morons never heard of double coverage?

[trickblue]

Both of the defenses look awful, but you have to remember they are both playing against very high powered offenses... and both offenses are in their groove...

[Chocolate Lab]

WVA has more speed and a better QB than Tech ever had.

These guys with these high-tempo offenses are in tremendous condition. Pretty amazing, really.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

70 points. Wow.

[The30YardSlant]

These teams might break the NCAA single game combined yardage record.

[RS12]

West Virginia Mountaineers Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int Rating
Geno Smith 44 50 648 88.0 13.0 1 3 8 0 249.7

[Aikbach]

Didn't get to watch the second half:( Baylor loses for the first time in almost a calendar year.

But it seems predictably the Baylor d line played poor and Geno made them look even worse.

Proud of the offense...not sure what that says about WVU defense however, does either team deserve to be ranked after a 70-63 score though? I think both deserve to lose the top 25 ranking after that, at least for a week.

Geno is the Heisman favorite for certain.

[RS12]

Didn't get to watch the second half:( Baylor loses for the first time in almost a calendar year.

But it seems predictably the Baylor d line played poor and Geno made them look even worse.

Proud of the offense...not sure what that says about WVU defense however, does either team deserve to be ranked after a 70-63 score though? I think both deserve to lose the top 25 ranking after that, at least for a week.

Geno is the Heisman favorite for certain.

I dont think any team ranked above WVU or Baylor wants any part of em. If I were an opposing DC they scare the you know what out of me.

[DallasCowpoke]

That 1-handed catch on WVU's last drive was unreal.

But sorry, 63 points and 581 passing yards to Baylor?...Color me skeptical.

See ya next week Geno.

[Aikbach]

http://solanumonlinemedia.com/images/tecmobowl_coaches.jpg

[The30YardSlant]

If Texas can't beat WVU next weeked I don't see anyone beating them. Everyone else is either garbage, has a terrible defense or has to go to Morgantown.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

If Texas can't beat WVU next weeked I don't see anyone beating them. Everyone else is either garbage, has a terrible defense or has to go to Morgantown.

Will be a hell of a challenge for us no question about it.

[Aikbach]

If Texas can't beat WVU next weeked I don't see anyone beating them. Everyone else is either garbage, has a terrible defense or has to go to Morgantown.Big 12 is slugfest this year, Kansas the only team that doesn't have a shot to be BCS ranked at season's end.

[The30YardSlant]

Big 12 is slugfest this year, Kansas the only team that doesn't have a shot to be BCS ranked at season's end.

Tech and ISU will be lucky to make a bowl, TCU has struggled against bad teams and will probably lose 4-5 games and Oklahoma States defense is every bit as bad as Baylor's. Kansas State is always one play away from winning or losing any game and Oklahoma is INCREDIBLY underwhelming.

Outside of Texas, I just don't see those teams stopping WVU. And I'm not sure Texas' defense is good enough to make up the gap between the two offenses.

[Aikbach]

I wonder how many future NFL wideouts were in this game, Bailey, Austin, Williams and reese all have the chops.

[windward]

I am pumped for next week's game.

[DFWJC]

Big 12 is slugfest this year, Kansas the only team that doesn't have a shot to be BCS ranked at season's end.
It looks like a wild year in th Big 12.

I'm not sure yet whether that means a lot of okay teams or something better.
Six ranked teams though....

[Sam I Am]

Tech and ISU will be lucky to make a bowl, TCU has struggled against bad teams and will probably lose 4-5 games

lol, wut? They had some self inflicted turnover issues in "a" game this season. You are so angry about your Big 12 departure. Face it, A&M made a HUGE mistake and will forever be pond scum in the SEC.

The Big 12 is flourishing right now with six top 25 teams and you're pissed A&M is an unranked SEC bottom feeder.

[Sam I Am]

Gotta say, WVU showed that they aren't title contenders this year. To win it all, you have to have some form of defense. That should have been a fun game to watch though.

[Aikbach]

It is my estimation K State, WVU, OU, Texas and Baylor are in a five way race for the conference, it will be a complex who knocks who off tie breaker.

I can see all five programs garnering at least 9 wins.

[WV Cowboy]

Both of the defenses look awful, but you have to remember they are both playing against very high powered offenses... and both offenses are in their groove...

This, .. plus both defenses got gassed and never recovered.

Don't forget Baylor put up 67 in their bowl game last year, .. setting a bowl record.

And then just a few day later, WV put 70 up on Clemson breaking Baylors record.

I have to agree that both defenses looked bad today, but I was soooo impressed with both offenses. Impressed with both QB's, and with both teams playcalling. Both teams had great athletes receiving the ball. Both offenses were clicking.

Only Baylor's TD at the half made me sick. That should never happen. For a while in the 2nd half I thought that was going to come back and bite us.

I was surprised that Baylor did not kick the onsides kick there at the end.

[windward]

I have a feeling Geno will be a top 5 pick next year.

[jobberone]

Only saw a little bit but where's the D?

[Aikbach]

Only saw a little bit but where's the D?Well, it was either the two worst defenses in the country or the two most potent offenses.

[jobberone]

Well, it was either the two worst defenses in the country or the two most potent offenses.

That's what I was thinking. Might be both.

[WV Cowboy]

Holgerson said in his post-game that "it just became the perfecet storm offensively for both teams."

He said "it won't be this way for either team every game."

"Neither team will score that much every game and neither team will give up that many points every game. That's just the way that it turned out today."

He was relieved to win.

[RS12]

I have a feeling Geno will be a top 5 pick next year.

I agree but McShay was on ESPN yesterday questioning his accuracy and ability to make NFL throws. The guy is completing 80% of his passes, and I know somebody desperate to sell tickets next year will roll the bones on him in the top 5.

[Aikbach]

I agree but McShay was on ESPN yesterday questioning his accuracy and ability to make NFL throws. The guy is completing 80% of his passes, and I know somebody desperate to sell tickets next year will roll the bones on him in the top 5.If he produces a winning record in the big 12 he'll make the case.

[WV Cowboy]

I agree but McShay was on ESPN yesterday questioning his accuracy and ability to make NFL throws. The guy is completing 80% of his passes, and I know somebody desperate to sell tickets next year will roll the bones on him in the top 5.

I don't really know enough about McShay to comment on him, but this is really a dumb statement.

If nothing, he is accurate.

[jterrell]

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

Just texted w/an exec, told me he think Geno Smith "has a chance" to be the 1st pick in April, noted it's also bc of his strong junior year.

Dez Bryant ‏@DezBryant

Think we already have our Heisman winner for this year.... "Geno Smith" lol

Mike Wallace ‏@Wallace17_daKid

Geno Smith Da Truth!!

LeBron James ‏@KingJames

Man Geno Smith is RIDICULOUS out there man!!! 38-43 577yrs with 7TD's. And there is still 10 mins left. Smh!!

[big dog cowboy]

I was surprised that Baylor did not kick the onsides kick there at the end.

I would have. They had a better chance betting on funny bounce of the ball over their defense making a stop.

[TheCoolFan]

I think Texas will beat WVU next week. WVU isn't a big running team and that's been Texas' weakness on defense.

[DFWJC]

Couple of great games next week

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd like to see KSU against WVU. KSU is one of the few teams that doesn't try to outscore everyone with the uptempo offense and constant passing. Snyder will try to just methodically eat clock and wear down WVU's defense, limiting their possessions. It might just work.

[jterrell]

I think Texas will beat WVU next week. WVU isn't a big running team and that's been Texas' weakness on defense.

UT isn't ready for the uptempo stuff WVU runs(they were gassed tonight versus OSU). That will wear out their DL especially. UT is still a year away and probably are over-rated right now. They have a lot of talent but much of it is really young.


KSU and Tech should give WVU interesting games but I suspect WVU wins them all this year including the last one for a NC. Tech has a Baylor-like offensive system and WR corps but a much better than Baylor defense. KSU can shorten a game versus anyone but I still suspect given one drive if you give my any two players I am taking Geno Smith and Tavon Austin.

WVU can pass the ball on any team in the team in the country.
They have enough WRs to spread people out and get match ups they like.
They can run the ball, especially with Smith/Austin, if that is needed.

We'll find out more next week.

[The30YardSlant]

lol, wut? They had some self inflicted turnover issues in "a" game this season. You are so angry about your Big 12 departure. Face it, A&M made a HUGE mistake and will forever be pond scum in the SEC.

The Big 12 is flourishing right now with six top 25 teams and you're pissed A&M is an unranked SEC bottom feeder.

TCU just struggled to beat SMU by a single score, a team A&M beat by 7 touchdowns. This after struggling against Kansas two weeks ago and looking mediocre against a bad Virginia team who just lost to a mid-major at home. They simply arent very good and will lose to Texas, Baylor, WVU, K-State and OU at a minimum.

I'm not angry about the departure at all. We just won an SEC game by 48 points, something Texas fans said would NEVER happen, let alone this year.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Gotta say, WVU showed that they aren't title contenders this year. To win it all, you have to have some form of defense. That should have been a fun game to watch though.

Lol this isn't the NFL. This is College Football where clearly they don't preach defense. You can win if you have a superhuman offense like WYU.

[The30YardSlant]

Gotta say, WVU showed that they aren't title contenders this year. To win it all, you have to have some form of defense. That should have been a fun game to watch though.

This is college football, you don't need much defense when your offense has the ability to drop 70 on literally anyone they play.

WVU's defense can't possibly play any worse, and against maybe the second best offense in terms of production in the conference no less, and still won. Outside of Texas and KSU, nobody in the Big XII plays good defense.

No, they probably won't win the National Title because they'd have to beat someone like Bama, but they can definitely win the Big XII and win a BCS game. If they get by Texas next week, it's theirs to lose.

[jterrell]

TCU just struggled to beat SMU by a single score, a team A&M beat by 7 touchdowns. This after struggling against Kansas two weeks ago and looking mediocre against a bad Virginia team who just lost to a mid-major at home. They simply arent very good and will lose to Texas, Baylor, WVU, K-State and OU at a minimum.

I'm not angry about the departure at all. We just won an SEC game by 48 points, something Texas fans said would NEVER happen, let alone this year.

I struggle to define how good TCU is to be honest. They actually play defense and run the ball so games are close by nature. All that said they can pass when needed and generally are a quality team.

You can't gauge a single thing by last night. That was a rivalry game and was played in a downpour.

TCU has been markedly better than TAMU for the past decade. How they match up this year is debateable.

TAMU beating ARK means really nothing. ARK lost two OOC games versus spares and now 1-4. This is the worst ARK has played probably since they joined the SEC.

TAMU actually has gotten UPGRADED QB/WR play out of Manziel/Evans. That has been the difference for them this year. The coachign change also looks to be a big plus; (especially IN RECRUITING). All that said they've played as terrible a schedule as Texas Tech. Not their fault that ARK is this bad (or that LaTech got postponed), but they are all the same. They've played 1 top 50 team thus far and lost.

I will give you this. No one expected the SEC to be this soft this year. All the Big 12 schools face an actually tougher schedule. Only 3 top 20 teams on the schedule. They should make a very solid bowl game as the 3rd place finisher in the SEC West and finish ranked in the top 25.

[The30YardSlant]

I struggle to define how good TCU is to be honest. They actually play defense and run the ball so games are close by nature. All that said they can pass when needed and generally are a quality team.

You can't gauge a single thing by last night. That was a rivalry game and was played in a downpour.

The thing is, they havent played a single team who is going to win more than 4-5 games and have looked average to poor against three of them. I just don't see how they beat anyone in the top half of the Big XII the way they have been looking.

TCU has been markedly better than TAMU for the past decade. How they match up this year is debateable.

I don't think it's close this year, simply based on similar competition. A&M crushed SMU 48-3 and crushed a bad BCS conference team 58-10 who is comparable to Virginia and Kansas. A&M's offense is miles ahead of TCU's.

TAMU beating ARK means really nothing. ARK lost two OOC games versus spares and now 1-4. This is the worst ARK has played probably since they joined the SEC.

It doesnt mean much at all, but it did get the "you cant win an SEC game" monkey off our back.


I will give you this. No one expected the SEC to be this soft this year. All the Big 12 schools face an actually tougher schedule. Only 3 top 20 teams on the schedule. They should make a very solid bowl game as the 3rd place finisher in the SEC West and finish ranked in the top 25.

A&M still has a harder SOS than anyone in the Big XII statistically. Playing three teams in the top 10, including two of the top three, as well as MSU will do that.

[jimmy40]

amazing what a motorcycle wreck can do to a major college football program.

[The30YardSlant]

amazing what a motorcycle wreck can do to a major college football program.

Part of me thinks that they would have taken a big step back this year anyway, their lines are awful. Petrino spent way too much time recruiting skill position talent and let the offensive and defensive lines go to ruin. Now they can't block anybody and they generate no pressure of their own.

[Aikbach]

Geno Smith is the Heisman front runner and WVU is a contender for their new conference in the wide open and highly competitive Big 12, it's fun.

[jimmy40]

Part of me thinks that they would have taken a big step back this year anyway, their lines are awful. Petrino spent way too much time recruiting skill position talent and let the offensive and defensive lines go to ruin. Now they can't block anybody and they generate no pressure of their own.he was one of the best play callers in the country and I don't think the players would have quit on their season if he was still there.

[WV Cowboy]

I think Texas will beat WVU next week. WVU isn't a big running team and that's been Texas' weakness on defense.

I can understand someone thinking that, if the Baylor game was the only time you've seen WV play.

But Shawn Alston (5'11", 236) has had to sit out two games with thigh injury, .. they can run with him, trust me.

He is a stud, and his attitude is that he is unstoppable. He is probably not as good as he thinks he is, but his "kick-butt" attitude makes him better than he really is, ... if that makes sense. He only knows one direction, straight over you.

Passing and running is not the problem, stopping the pass and run is. :rolleyes:

[Questfor6]

I can understand someone thinking that, if the Baylor game was the only time you've seen WV play.

But Shawn Alston (5'11", 236) has had to sit out two games with thigh injury, .. they can run with him, trust me.

He is a stud, and his attitude is that he is unstoppable. He is probably not as good as he thinks he is, but his "kick-butt" attitude makes him better than he really is, ... if that makes sense. He only knows one direction, straight over you.

Passing and running is not the problem, stopping the pass and run is. :rolleyes:

Coach doesn't call him Shawne ALSTOTT for no reason. If he's healthy Texas is gonna have a tough time stopping the thunder (Alston) & the Lightning (Buie & Garrison).
Biggest problem for WV is gonna be getting stops on D. They've got to do a better job of getting of the field, these DBacks look like they've been to the Dave Campo passing academy.

[Chocolate Lab]

he was one of the best play callers in the country and I don't think the players would have quit on their season if he was still there.

Yep. And it didn't help them that their QB, one of the better college QBs in the country, got knocked out for a few games, too. They'd have beaten La Monroe with him and the Bama game wouldn't have been 70-0. After that they had tons of bad mojo that is hard to overcome.

[Doomsday101]

Looking foward to this weekends game vs WVU. This is a good test for the Horns

[WV Cowboy]

Looking foward to this weekends game vs WVU. This is a good test for the Horns

The Mountaineers will be on the road, on their first Big 12 road trip, .. at Texas!

I think they are the ones being tested.

Looking forward to it too!

[Doomsday101]

The Mountaineers will be on the road, on their first Big 12 road trip, .. at Texas!

I think they are the ones being tested.

Looking forward to it too!

I think it is a good test for both teams. I'm looking forward to it as well.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, I no everybody is hoping that WV doesn't drop 70 on them but I have to say, I am not so sure that WV matches up that well with Texas. I have no doubt that WV can play offense but they are small up front. I think Texas might be able to control clock and run the football against WV. We will see but I think that could happen. WV reminds me of Tech a few years back.

[jterrell]

Well, I no everybody is hoping that WV doesn't drop 70 on them but I have to say, I am not so sure that WV matches up that well with Texas. I have no doubt that WV can play offense but they are small up front. I think Texas might be able to control clock and run the football against WV. We will see but I think that could happen. WV reminds me of Tech a few years back.

They are much like the good Tech teams.

UT isn't stopping Geno Smith but they can certainly control the clock and run. The issue will be does UT make mistakes or not with their young skill position players. Any mistake becomes a quick 7 for WVU.

I don't like the match up at all for Texas. Next year is the year for UT. They had to sort through some busted recruiting and get in some better coaching. Tons of talent they are young.

[Doomsday101]

They are much like the good Tech teams.

UT isn't stopping Geno Smith but they can certainly control the clock and run. The issue will be does UT make mistakes or not with their young skill position players. Any mistake becomes a quick 7 for WVU.

I don't like the match up at all for Texas. Next year is the year for UT. They had to sort through some busted recruiting and get in some better coaching. Tons of talent they are young.

Texas will pick him off at least 2 time in that game. I think Smith and WVU are very good I also think Texas CB can make plays

[ABQCOWBOY]

They are much like the good Tech teams.

UT isn't stopping Geno Smith but they can certainly control the clock and run. The issue will be does UT make mistakes or not with their young skill position players. Any mistake becomes a quick 7 for WVU.

I don't like the match up at all for Texas. Next year is the year for UT. They had to sort through some busted recruiting and get in some better coaching. Tons of talent they are young.


If Texas can tackle, they can have a great shot to win this ball game I think. This is not to say that Texas will win. I think they can but I do agree. They can't have a lot of drops they can sometimes be famous for of late. Ash has to have a solid game and they have to run the football effectively. I think they can do that. Between Bergeron, Monroe, Gray and Brown who should be back for the WV game, Texas really should be able to run the ball. That helps Texas a lot because if the Texas Secondary has to spend the day tackling, forgetaboutit.

[MC KAos]

im just here to say....

"with the _____ pick of the 2013 draft, the dallas cowboys select, GENO SMITH, Quarterback, West Virginia"

my dream right now...

[BrAinPaiNt]

im just here to say....

"with the _____ pick of the 2013 draft, the dallas cowboys select, GENO SMITH, Quarterback, West Virginia"

my dream right now...

Maybe you should focus on some of the Olinemen that protect Geno and give him a pretty good amount of time to scan the field. I have noticed he seems to get a good deal of time to scan the field and pick the best option.

Now with that said, let's see how that line, and Geno, does against a team with a better D line and pass rushing ends.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Maybe you should focus on some of the Olinemen that protect Geno and give him a pretty good amount of time to scan the field. I have noticed he seems to get a good deal of time to scan the field and pick the best option.

Now with that said, let's see how that line, and Geno, does against a team with a better D line and pass rushing ends.

Would rather be watching that game from a beach in Cabo BP.

[WV Cowboy]

Maybe you should focus on some of the Olinemen that protect Geno and give him a pretty good amount of time to scan the field. I have noticed he seems to get a good deal of time to scan the field and pick the best option.

Now with that said, let's see how that line, and Geno, does against a team with a better D line and pass rushing ends.

And corners that get up in your grill every play.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Would rather be watching that game from a beach in Cabo BP.

Get me back to Iggies Beach bar in St Thomas USVI and I will be a Happy Camper.:D

[jterrell]

im just here to say....

"with the _____ pick of the 2013 draft, the dallas cowboys select, GENO SMITH, Quarterback, West Virginia"

my dream right now...

if we pick high enough to draft geno we will draft him. he'll go top 5 for sure.
but there will be an insane river of tears between now and then if that occurs.

the rg3/geno comparisons are apt and fair.
how funny would it be for the texas kid to play in DC and Geno (from Miami but still played at WVU) to play in Texas for their pro careers?

[WV Cowboy]

I am honestly so sick, disappointed, and embarassed at the whole mess going on down in Dallas right now that I hope Geno doesn't get picked by the Cowboys.

He doesn't deserve that.

No O-line to protect him, and nobody in management that sees that as a problem worth correcting.

WR's that either can't stay on the field, or don't know where to go if they are on the field.

Media scrutiny on Dallas QB's right now is unbearable. Everything Romo does on and off of the field is under a microscope.

I hope Geno goes somewhere that realizes the importance of O-line and running game as it pertains to the success of your QB.

And where they have a strong front office, with direction.