ESPND:Source: Five DBs will audition for Cowboys

[Mr Cowboy]

IRVING, Texas -- Antwaun Molden is not the only defensive back the Cowboys will be working out today at Valley Ranch. Four more will be making auditions to fill a roster spot that will be open because of Barry Church’s season-ending Achilles tear.

Tyrone Culver, who spent the last four years with Miami, Eric Frampton, who spent the last five years in Minnesota, Don Carey, who played last year for Detroit, and Aaron Rouse, the MVP of last year’s UFL Championship Game, will be looking for a job, according to a source.

Culver played in the preseason finale against the Cowboys on Aug. 29 and made two tackles. He was among the Dolphins’ final cuts. Carey was waived/injured by the Lions because of a hamstring injury and played in only five games last year. He started 10 games for Jacksonville in 2010 and had 55 tackles and an interception. Molden is a cornerback by trade, but the Cowboys will give him a look at safety with his 6-1, 198-pound frame.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4698330/cowboys-to-took-at-five-dbs

[TheCoolFan]

Welp looks like McCray and Silva all the way til Sensabaugh gets back

[JonJon]

Out of all those players, I like Aaron Rouse the best. He is a big guy (6'4" 227) that plays aggressive and makes big hits. He is also very athletic and has enough speed to keep up with most receivers (4.5). All the reports I have read says that he can easily pick up a playbook, so in a situation like this, we need someone that can get up and running quickly. He does a decent job in man coverage.

The negatives are that he gets lost in zone coverage. I think the best bet is to bring him in at SS and keep him as close to the LOS as possible and let Sensy stay at FS when he gets back and have Carr play that spot in the meantime.

[Idgit]

Frampton, back from the dead.

[warrior43]

Rouse for sure out of those options

[AbeBeta]

I think Molden is the leader in the clubhouse here. He's played for some outstanding defensive coaches and I think that is a real plus

[Yoshimitsu]

Rouse or Molden.

I like the physicality Rouse brings.

[JonJon]

I think Molden is the leader in the clubhouse here. He's played for some outstanding defensive coaches and I think that is a real plus

The knock against him from what I'm reading is that he struggles with the playbook. I'm not sure we need that at this point in the season.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Frampton, back from the dead.

Do you mean...do you mean...do you mean that Frampton Comes Alive?!?!

I wonder how many youngsters have no clue what we are talking about. :laugh2:

[Deep_Freeze]

Guess this cast of scrubs is what we get when we ignore the position for years and years.

Alot harder to find a safety who can play off the street then it is for alot of other positions cause they really have to be the main ones on the backend that know whats going on.

Guess I will keep on harping on it, our D has been good this year, but the safety position is what truly holds it back from being elite.

[bigE79]

Do you mean...do you mean...do you mean that Frampton Comes Alive?!?!

I wonder how many youngsters have no clue what we are talking about. :laugh2:Do you feel like I do?...lol

[JonJon]

Guess this cast of scrubs is what we get when we ignore the position for years and years.

Alot harder to find a safety who can play off the street then it is for alot of other positions cause they really have to be the main ones on the backend that know whats going on.

Guess I will keep on harping on it, our D has been good this year, but the safety position is what truly holds it back from being elite.

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T.J. McDonald, coming to an NFL team near you

[Deep_Freeze]

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T.J. McDonald, coming to an NFL team near you

I can only dream.

Guess some people just don't realize with our huge upgrades at CB, how great this D would be with some talent at safety. Right now we get good coverage, but how many turnovers are they really producing.....Falcons have 7 INTs, we have 1, pathetic.

Upgrade the safety position, and we can finally get the turnovers that we need desperately out of this D and make the unit an elite unit for years to come.

[JonJon]

I can only dream.

Guess some people just don't realize with our huge upgrades at CB, how great this D would be with some talent at safety. Right now we get good coverage, but how many turnovers are they really producing.....Falcons have 7 INTs, we have 1, pathetic.

Upgrade the safety position, and we can finally get the turnovers that we need desperately out of this D and make the unit an elite unit for years to come.

I with you. Get a top safety in the draft (there will be plenty to choose from) and use free agency and the other remaining top draft selections to finally get some talent on the offensive line.

[Deep_Freeze]

I with you. Get a top safety in the draft (there will be plenty to choose from) and use free agency and the other remaining top draft selections to finally get some talent on the offensive line.

Yeah I'm with that, we have alot of positions that need talent, but the top 2 are safety and OL, and like you I also want to use free agency on the OL cause we need some immediate help there that we can trust.

With our corners we have now, it should be rather obvious how much of a difference a playmaking safety would make on this D. Hopefully we can get that done this offseason, cause I want 2 new starting ones and hope Matt is one of them.

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Molden or Rouse, kinda hoping for Rouse but I think Molden can play. Kinda makes you think Butler was not high on Ryan's list even though most fans here loved him

[jobberone]

The key to INTs is to get good pressure and good coverage. You either get a sack, throw away or the QB starts to press and throw into tight spaces and coverage. I think we have the corners. I agree we need better safeties. We've been calling for at least one ball hawking safety for awhile. Time for Santa to bring one.

[cowboys2233]

I can only dream.

Guess some people just don't realize with our huge upgrades at CB, how great this D would be with some talent at safety. Right now we get good coverage, but how many turnovers are they really producing.....Falcons have 7 INTs, we have 1, pathetic.

Upgrade the safety position, and we can finally get the turnovers that we need desperately out of this D and make the unit an elite unit for years to come.

Um, did you see the coverage Manning was throwing into against the Falcons? It does not take great talent to pick off those passes, only great scheming.

[Deep_Freeze]

Um, did you see the coverage Manning was throwing into against the Falcons? It does not take great talent to pick off those passes, only great scheming.

Well, I wasn't specifically talking about the Falcons, just in general that 1 INT in 3 games is pretty pathetic even when you compare it to other teams.

[JonJon]

Well, I wasn't specifically talking about the Falcons, just in general that 1 INT in 3 games is pretty pathetic even when you compare it to other teams.
And that was from Sean Lee on a muffed catch that flew into the air and into his hands.

[Reality]

And that was from Sean Lee on a muffed catch that flew into the air and into his hands.

But he did hold on to it at least :D

#reality

[MyBad]

Do you mean...do you mean...do you mean that Frampton Comes Alive?!?!

I wonder how many youngsters have no clue what we are talking about. :laugh2:
:cool:

[cowboys2233]

Well, I wasn't specifically talking about the Falcons, just in general that 1 INT in 3 games is pretty pathetic even when you compare it to other teams.

I dunno, interceptions are obviously nice but I don't think they're necessarily indicative of how effective a pass defense is. We held the Bucs to 10 points and that was giving them 3 turnovers. We held Freeman to a 36% completion percentage and 3.9 YPA. That, my friend, is rock solid defensive play.

[Deep_Freeze]

I dunno, interceptions are obviously nice but I don't think they're necessarily indicative of how effective a pass defense is. We held the Bucs to 10 points and that was giving them 3 turnovers. We held Freeman to a 36% completion percentage and 3.9 YPA. That, my friend, is rock solid defensive play.

While I do agree with you on that, with the struggles of our offense, more turnovers would benefit them big time if we could get more of them. Doing all that with below average safeties just makes me wonder and desperately want to see this D with some elite safety play.

[Oh_Canada]

I think the Boys did a fair bit to upgrade the position. Unfortunately Church, who appeared to be a player, got hurt and Matt Johnson is a creampuff. This past draft had very little top end safety talent anyhow and Tyron Smith/Bruce Carter seem to have been solid picks a year ago.

[StylisticS]

But he did hold on to it at least :D

#reality
That's important.:D

[Deep_Freeze]

I think the Boys did a fair bit to upgrade the position. Unfortunately Church, who appeared to be a player, got hurt and Matt Johnson is a creampuff. This past draft had very little top end safety talent anyhow and Tyron Smith/Bruce Carter seem to have been solid picks a year ago.

Matt was a move in a positive direction, but to say they tried to upgrade the position with Church is a bit much. They were trying to get by spending no resources on the position with another UDFA, hardly a dedication to the position.

We had 3 centers go out (Killer, Nagy, Costa) before we had to go get Cook (spending a pick), meanwhile we have one safety (Church) go out before we have to do go get some scrub off the street.

The difference should be obvious, if you think we haven't spent much on the OL, it is absurd how little of our resources we have spent at safety.

[Oh_Canada]

Matt was a move in a positive direction, but to say they tried to upgrade the position with Church is a bit much. They were trying to get by spending no resources on the position with another UDFA, hardly a dedication to the position.

We had 3 centers go out (Killer, Nagy, Costa) before we had to go get Cook (spending a pick), meanwhile we have one safety (Church) go out before we have to do go get some scrub off the street.

The difference should be obvious, if you think we haven't spent much on the OL, it is absurd how little of our resources we have spent at safety.

You can't upgrade everywhere in one or two seasons. The staff probably liked Church and they're trust seemed to be validated by his play until he was injured. Sensy is a good football player when healthy. They hoped Pool would provide depth which he obviously did not do.
Unfortunately, they just ran into a lot of injuries in a short span of time, not much you can do about that.
However that said I agree the position needs to be addressed in the offseason as achilles are tough injuries and it appears both Johnson and Sensy are injury prone.

[Deep_Freeze]

You can't upgrade everywhere in one or two seasons. The staff probably liked Church and they're trust seemed to be validated by his play until he was injured. Sensy is a good football player when healthy. They hoped Pool would provide depth which he obviously did not do.
Unfortunately, they just ran into a lot of injuries in a short span of time, not much you can do about that.
However that said I agree the position needs to be addressed in the offseason as achilles are tough injuries and it appears both Johnson and Sensy are injury prone.

Well I will have to add, we aren't talking about alot of injuries here, Sensy was out for one week and they lost Church. The OL has been hit far worse and didn't have to find guys off the street, even Cook was on a team and had to be traded for to get.

[Idgit]

Do you mean...do you mean...do you mean that Frampton Comes Alive?!?!

I wonder how many youngsters have no clue what we are talking about. :laugh2:

Lol. I did mean, exactly that. And I thought when I posted it that you'd be the one poster who'd comment on it if he saw it. So happy you didn't disappoint.

[brickman]

Do you feel like I do?...lol

Baby, I love your way!!

[silver]

Baby, I love your way!!

Rob Ryan as we speak:

Who can I belive in
I'm kneeling on the floor
There has to be a force who do I phone?

[Marktui]

Guess this cast of scrubs is what we get when we ignore the position for years and years.

Alot harder to find a safety who can play off the street then it is for alot of other positions cause they really have to be the main ones on the backend that know whats going on.

Guess I will keep on harping on it, our D has been good this year, but the safety position is what truly holds it back from being elite.


We did find a scrub off the street his name was Church.

[jjktkk]

Matt was a move in a positive direction, but to say they tried to upgrade the position with Church is a bit much. They were trying to get by spending no resources on the position with another UDFA, hardly a dedication to the position.

We had 3 centers go out (Killer, Nagy, Costa) before we had to go get Cook (spending a pick), meanwhile we have one safety (Church) go out before we have to do go get some scrub off the street.

The difference should be obvious, if you think we haven't spent much on the OL, it is absurd how little of our resources we have spent at safety.

Have to disagree on your safety opinion freeze. They obviously did not spend a high draft pick on a safety, but they did sign a potential starter in Pool to compete with Church for a starting spot. And apparantly they were/are very high on Johnson. They also have special team ace McCray, who also plays in defensive packages. Not to mention Sensy. The safety group may not be uber talented, but when healthy, they are a average to solid group. Plus, you take out the starting safeties on any NFL team and you have pretty much what the Boys have.

[Wolfpack]

Where's Frank Walker? Pete Hunter? Come on, lets get some talent in back in big D.

[Deep_Freeze]

Have to disagree on your safety opinion freeze. They obviously did not spend a high draft pick on a safety, but they did sign a potential starter in Pool to compete with Church for a starting spot. And apparantly they were/are very high on Johnson. They also have special team ace McCray, who also plays in defensive packages. Not to mention Sensy. The safety group may not be uber talented, but when healthy, they are a average to solid group. Plus, you take out the starting safeties on any NFL team and you have pretty much what the Boys have.

Well no 2 people will always agree, Poole was garbage when he was signed though, there just wasn't anyone else available so they signed him just in case Church flopped.

I do have hope for Matt if he ever gets healthy, and want him to stay around. I just hope for continued focus on the position, alot more than we have til we drafted Matt. We don't need a really high pick on a safety, a mid-round pick can get it done at safety in the right system just like with other positions.

Problem is, we haven't even done that til Matt.......unless you want to count AOA. The more you tell me about McCray and Silva being good, the more I can tell you how good Costa and Killa will be. The answer is hopefully one of them will turn out, but we shouldn't depend on any of them.

[BAT]

Rouse has got the best measurables, pure athlete. He's kind of like McCray without the work ethic.