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Jenky
09-26-2012, 07:24 AM
Surprised there isn't a thread about this yet, but this is dumb. Also, Apple trying to hire Google's map developing team to solve their own problems, made me LOL.
So who wants to make a wager on the number of days it takes Apple to finally cave in?
Sam I Am
09-26-2012, 07:34 AM
Surprised there isn't a thread about this yet, but this is dumb. Also, Apple trying to hire Google's map developing team to solve their own problems, made me LOL.
So who wants to make a wager on the number of days it takes Apple to finally cave in?
Apple is already is direct discussions with Google about an Google Maps app for iTunes.
The problem is, Google is balking. The reason is because Google will spend the resources to make the app and then Apple will reject it at some point because it competes with Apples new maps service.
Apple knows their maps are crap right now, but there is no way Apple will allow Google Maps to stay once they fix their mapping software. The problem is, that will probably take quite a bit of time. Google Maps has taken years to evolve. This is why Apple is trying to hire Google Maps developers. Basically, they want to steal the technology so it doesn't have to be developed. It would just need to be re-implemented.
Apple claims everyone steals from them when in fact it is Apple that is a leach. The company lacks any ethics or character.
trickblue
09-26-2012, 08:50 AM
Apple is already is direct discussions with Google about an Google Maps app for iTunes.
The problem is, Google is balking. The reason is because Google will spend the resources to make the app and then Apple will reject it at some point because it competes with Apples new maps service.
Apple knows their maps are crap right now, but there is no way Apple will allow Google Maps to stay once they fix their mapping software. The problem is, that will probably take quite a bit of time. Google Maps has taken years to evolve. This is why Apple is trying to hire Google Maps developers. Basically, they want to steal the technology so it doesn't have to be developed. It would just need to be re-implemented.
Apple claims everyone steals from them when in fact it is Apple that is a leach. The company lacks any ethics or character.
I own Apple and Google products... but lets not pretend that Google is the bastion of ethics and character...
Apple, Google, Oracle, Microsoft, etc... ALL are SOB's out for the almighty dollar...
This fits into the old saying about reelecting crooked politicians... "He may be a crook... but at least he's MY crook"...
Sam I Am
09-26-2012, 09:01 AM
I own Apple and Google products... but lets not pretend that Google is the bastion of ethics and character...
Apple, Google, Oracle, Microsoft, etc... ALL are SOB's out for the almighty dollar...
This fits into the old saying about reelecting crooked politicians... "He may be a crook... but at least he's MY crook"...
Google isn't perfect and I've never said they were. But Google isn't anywhere as bad as Apple, Oracle, or Microsoft and lets not pretend they are. ;)
trickblue
09-26-2012, 09:32 AM
Google isn't perfect and I've never said they were. But Google isn't anywhere as bad as Apple, Oracle, or Microsoft and lets not pretend they are. ;)
Ah yes... Google may be a crook... but they are MY crook... ;)
Sam I Am
09-26-2012, 09:42 AM
Ah yes... Google may be a crook... but they are MY crook... ;)
Google is a crook? For what? Collecting Wifi network location? :laugh2:
djmajestik
09-26-2012, 09:50 AM
Ah yes... Google may be a crook... but they are MY crook... ;)
They're definitely MINE!
Dallas
09-26-2012, 10:01 AM
I really am holding out hope that Google just tells Apple to pound sand and let it pass. Apple made the decision to opt out of Google maps for a business decision. They should not be running back because that product they replaced it w/ sucks to no end.
Google doesn't need Apple which is the funny part. It appears Apple needs Google.
To kick the guy who has been making maps for the past 15 years and at street level was a comical decision to say the least.
Let the sheep deal w/ the Apple OS the way it is. :cool:
BrAinPaiNt
09-26-2012, 10:34 AM
I really am holding out hope that Google just tells Apple to pound sand and let it pass. Apple made the decision to opt out of Google maps for a business decision. They should not be running back because that product they replaced it w/ sucks to no end.
Google doesn't need Apple which is the funny part. It appears Apple needs Google.
To kick the guy who has been making maps for the past 15 years and at street level was a comical decision to say the least.
Let the sheep deal w/ the Apple OS the way it is. :cool:
Apple may prefer Google...however they do not NEED google.
There would be plenty of people would be more than happy to move into googles spot just for the maps section.
It won't hurt apple nor google.
Google has LOADS of apps on the itunes store and sooner or later they will have a map App there.
To act like either side NEEDS each other is nothing more than a fan or antifan boy dream.
Sam I Am
09-26-2012, 10:43 AM
Apple may prefer Google...however they do not NEED google.
There would be plenty of people would be more than happy to move into googles spot just for the maps section.
It won't hurt apple nor google.
Google has LOADS of apps on the itunes store and sooner or later they will have a map App there.
To act like either side NEEDS each other is nothing more than a fan or antifan boy dream.
Actually, Apple has needed many of Google's services for a long time. They only over the last year or two have tried to ween off of many of Google's services. Apple maps was just another step in that direction. They hate the hell out of Google, but as of yet have no choice, but to keep using many of their services.
If Apple could, they would completely block everything Google from the iPhone. :laugh2:
JBond
09-26-2012, 10:51 AM
Google isn't perfect and I've never said they were. But Google isn't anywhere as bad as Apple, Oracle, or Microsoft and lets not pretend they are. ;)
Google is as scummy as it gets. The deals they have cut with certain countries is frightening. The stuff they did before the Beijing Olympics was pure evil. Their contracts with the NSA and Homeland Security are also disturbing. That being said, I use an android phone, so what does that make me?
BrAinPaiNt
09-26-2012, 10:56 AM
Actually, Apple has needed many of Google's services for a long time. They only over the last year or two have tried to ween off of many of Google's services. Apple maps was just another step in that direction. They hate the hell out of Google, but as of yet have no choice, but to keep using many of their services.
If Apple could, they would completely block everything Google from the iPhone. :laugh2:
Apple could block every google app (and there are 20+ google apps) from the store if they wanted to.
Google could refuse to let their apps be on itunes.
But they don't.
Apple does NOT need google nor does google need apple. As much as they might hate each other...they are also smart enough to use each other to help themselves.
I know that takes away from your I hate all thing apple so I don't use my brain most of the time and go straight into apple rage but it does not change the face that neither NEED each other.
Apple would not all of a sudden shut down if Google refused to let apple use it's programs nor would Google all of a sudden shut down if Apple refused to let google products on their stuff.
So again...as I stated...they don't NEED each other...they do however Use each other.
Sam I Am
09-26-2012, 11:49 AM
Apple could block every google app (and there are 20+ google apps) from the store if they wanted to.
Google could refuse to let their apps be on itunes.
But they don't.
Apple does NOT need google nor does google need apple. As much as they might hate each other...they are also smart enough to use each other to help themselves.
I know that takes away from your I hate all thing apple so I don't use my brain most of the time and go straight into apple rage but it does not change the face that neither NEED each other.
Apple would not all of a sudden shut down if Google refused to let apple use it's programs nor would Google all of a sudden shut down if Apple refused to let google products on their stuff.
So again...as I stated...they don't NEED each other...they do however Use each other.
Yeah. I know a few iPhone users that would drop the iPhone the second they lost access to Google services. Apple knows this. ;)
Dallas
09-26-2012, 12:14 PM
Yeah. I know a few iPhone users that would drop the iPhone the second they lost access to Google services. Apple knows this. ;)
I see Paints point to a degree but I laugh when folks say Apple could drop Google Apps and have no problem. Hey Apple...try just one...try dropping sayyyy GMAIL.... and see where that lands you.
:D
iceberg
09-26-2012, 12:16 PM
I own Apple and Google products... but lets not pretend that Google is the bastion of ethics and character...
Apple, Google, Oracle, Microsoft, etc... ALL are SOB's out for the almighty dollar...
This fits into the old saying about reelecting crooked politicians... "He may be a crook... but at least he's MY crook"...
QFT...
BrAinPaiNt
09-26-2012, 12:28 PM
I see Paints point to a degree but I laugh when folks say Apple could drop Google Apps and have no problem. Hey Apple...try just one...try dropping sayyyy GMAIL.... and see where that lands you.
:D
Would not bother me a bit.
I don't use any email apps on the iphone.
I had three google apps on my iphone. The Map is now gone, I removed chrome as I got used to using safari on my phone, so I am down to 1...the basic google search and I rarely use it so I might just remove it just to free up some space. But I am always switching apps so it is no biggie to me.
As far as email...The only thing I use a personal email account for is if I sign up for something.
Otherwise I have no need for it in my personal life anymore.
Work email is another thing but I would not use a online email account as my work email so there would be no need for me to use that.
I have a feeling that other than work emails, most people are starting to move away from email just like most people have moved away from leaving voice mails.
For personal forms of communication I think people have more or less gravitated towards Facebook, talking on the phone and the biggest now...texting.
But that is just me and my opinion.
So...take off all the google products and it will not bother me in the least concerning my phone.
Now...take off some of games...that is a different story:D Currently Fairway Solitaire by Big Fish Games is my favorite.
the kid 05
09-26-2012, 06:15 PM
Google, at the moment, isn't making an maps app for ios
http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/technology/Apple+maps+help+from+Google/7298175/story.html
Meat-O-Rama
09-26-2012, 07:03 PM
I see Paints point to a degree but I laugh when folks say Apple could drop Google Apps and have no problem. Hey Apple...try just one...try dropping sayyyy GMAIL.... and see where that lands you.
:D
The mail app in iOS is not gmail. It supports gmail accounts, but it also supports just about any other type of email account you've got.
theogt
09-26-2012, 08:55 PM
Google, at the moment, isn't making an maps app for ios
http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/technology/Apple+maps+help+from+Google/7298175/story.htmlHe doesn't really say that. Other reports indicate they are.
Also, reports are saying the primary reason Apple dumped them was because Google wouldn't give them turn-by-turn, at least Google wouldn't give it to them at a price that Apple cared for.
The Apple maps app seems fine to me.
iceberg
09-26-2012, 11:00 PM
all this to simply put the IGS at your fingertips.
how fast we get info doesn't make it right. learning to temper twitter crap...
priceless.
I'll admit that was my first culture shock going from android to the iphone, lack of turn by turn directions. Couldn't believe apple didn't have that for free but I ended up getting navigon and love it. Could care less about the iOS 6 maps, google maps, or any other maps. :p:
03EBZ06
09-27-2012, 09:44 AM
What's the best way to milk a sheep?
Go ask Apple
:laugh2:
Dallas
09-27-2012, 11:17 AM
I'll admit that was my first culture shock going from android to the iphone, lack of turn by turn directions. Couldn't believe apple didn't have that for free but I ended up getting navigon and love it. Could care less about the iOS 6 maps, google maps, or any other maps. :p:
Funny that you brought this up. This was just posted today. It talks about the same issue you are here.
Funny thing is..Apple wants it for free but Google won't let them have it for free.
Voice navigation killed Apple-Google maps talks
Google Chairman Eric Schmidt said Apple should have continued to use Google’s mapping application in iOS 6 instead of swapping it out for its poorly received home-brewed replacement, and given the sour reception Apple’s Maps app has been given, he may have been right.
But multiple sources familiar with Apple’s thinking say the company felt it had no choice but to replace Google Maps with its own, because of a disagreement over a key feature: Voice-guided turn-by-turn driving directions.
Spoken turn-by-turn navigation has been a free service offered through Google’s Android mobile OS for a few years now. But it was never part of the deal that brought Google’s Maps to iOS. And sources say Apple very much wanted it to be. Requiring iPhone users to look directly at handsets for directions and manually move through each step — while Android users enjoyed native voice-guided instructions — put Apple at a clear disadvantage in the mobile space.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/27/voice-navigation-killed-apple-google-maps-talks/?intcmp=features#ixzz27ggnEOfJ
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