Walking Dead– Season 3 **Spoilers**

[MichaelWinicki]

Premier this Sunday, October 14th, 9PM EST.


Comment away...

[Kilyin]

Stay in the house Carl.

[Aikmaniac]

Heck yeah! Can't wait.

Between this, Dexter, and Cowboys football, I'm set for the fall.

[jobberone]

Man they had a preview on last nite and she wigged on me. In fact it gives me the creeps, too. Not my cup of tea and definitely not hers.

[Phoenix]

Really looking forward to this. They are doing the thing again this season of putting up short webisodes...I have only seen the first one so far...

http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-walking-dead

[BrAinPaiNt]

http://unrealitytv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/walking-dead-season-3.jpg

[MichaelWinicki]

It would seem that things are going to move at a much faster pace than they did for the majority of season 2... Which is a good thing.

As usual, it will be interesting to see how the TV series differs from the comic book.

From what we saw at the end of the Season 2, Rick is finding out that Shane's way of doing things, i.e. violent and sometimes selfish appearing may be the only way to survive.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Daryl and Merle ending up on opposite sides of the fence so to say.

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

Stay in the house Carl.

:laugh2:

He needed to be handcuffed to a bedpost or something. Little punk. LOL

[BrAinPaiNt]

Man they had a preview on last nite and she wigged on me. In fact it gives me the creeps, too. Not my cup of tea and definitely not hers.

You two buttercups better toughen up if you want to survive the upcoming zombie apocalypse. :p: ;)

[BrAinPaiNt]

:laugh2:

He needed to be handcuffed to a bedpost or something. Little punk. LOL

I thought it would be funny if they hooked up bungy cord to him. See how far he would get before he was snapped back. :D

[zrinkill]

Stay in the house Carl.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/walkigdead.jpg

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

I thought it would be funny if they hooked up bungy cord to him. See how far he would get before he was snapped back. :D

LOL, like one of those kiddie leashes you see parents hook to their hyper-active kids at the mall.

[jobberone]

You two buttercups better toughen up if you want to survive the upcoming zombie apocalypse. :p: ;)

Nope. I'm pulling the covers over my head. Only thing I'm a weenie about is scary movies. The Ring was the last one I saw. When that girl crawled thru the screen I tried to get away from her thru the back of my seat! You can watch it all you want.

[trickblue]

I thought it would be funny if they hooked up bungy cord to him. See how far he would get before he was snapped back. :D

LOL, like one of those kiddie leashes you see parents hook to their hyper-active kids at the mall.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/meyers.gif

[Future]

It would seem that things are going to move at a much faster pace than they did for the majority of season 2... Which is a good thing.

As usual, it will be interesting to see how the TV series differs from the comic book.

From what we saw at the end of the Season 2, Rick is finding out that Shane's way of doing things, i.e. violent and sometimes selfish appearing may be the only way to survive.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Daryl and Merle ending up on opposite sides of the fence so to say.
Depending on how far the the season intends to go will determine the pace...if they are in the jail the entire time, I don't see it moving very fast at all. And actually, that's pretty much what I expect :laugh2:

I definitely agree with you about Rick, will be interesting to see what they do with him in terms of being violent.

[KoRnyBrad]

Just reread the comics up again to Chapter 15 to get ready for Sunday. I'm excited for this show to come back and see how it all works out compared to the comics. The Governor is going to rock!


Btw....anyone seen Carl?:laugh2:

[notherbob]

The Walking Dead - is that about the Jerry Jones and/or the Cowboys? :lmao2:

[KoRnyBrad]

The Walking Dead - is that about the Jerry Jones and/or the Cowboys? :lmao2:

Well Jerry wouldn't need make up to be a zombie.
:)

[MichaelWinicki]

Watching the "WD" marathon off & on yesterday and today.

Especially listening to the Shane parts on the farm, thinking how long it's going to take Rick to become "Shane". Even though that character (Shane) was given a lot of issues, a lot of what we said while on the farm was accurate.

[Lodeus]

Season 2 was much better than I remember.

[Lodeus]

Oh my.

I don't see one of these issues going well.

[Yeagermeister]

Awesome first episode

[MichaelWinicki]

Oh my.

I don't see one of these issues going well.

LOL!

If they did, then the show would be over in a couple more episodes.

I'm not sure if the bite is fatal or not. In conventional zombie lore, it would be... I'm not sure the writers are following that path or not.

[MichaelWinicki]

It was a good premier episode.

I didn't think it was out & out great, but solid.

A lot of good zombie kills.

[BrAinPaiNt]

LOL!

If they did, then the show would be over in a couple more episodes.

I'm not sure if the bite is fatal or not. In conventional zombie lore, it would be... I'm not sure the writers are following that path or not.

Dale in the comics and now Hershel in the series. That is if I am remembering the comics right.

[Derekmtl85]

LOL!

If they did, then the show would be over in a couple more episodes.

I'm not sure if the bite is fatal or not. In conventional zombie lore, it would be... I'm not sure the writers are following that path or not.

Well, they are already infected, so that's 1 reason less to think he will die.

But then you have the "fever" issue that comes in, which is usually what kills you. Cuting off the leg might work since he did it right away...but i say it's 50/50 that he dies.

Anyways, i thought it was a good episode, some good action, the plot is going along forward and a nice little surprise at the end of the episode.

[Trendnet]

Anyways, i thought it was a good episode, some good action, the plot is going along forward and a nice little surprise at the end of the episode.


Agreed. Very good episode. To the point I was able to overlook the Scooby Doo type scenes in the prision halls.

[Phoenix]

Loved the first episode!

And did you guys see The Talking Dead afterwords? I was pretty certain the director dude said "hookers" and not "walkers" at one point...loved how the host halted and said, "Wait a minute, did you say hookers?" :laugh2:

[Joe Rod]

Good first episode. Carl grew up a lot faster on the show than in the comics. Good move there since the "keep Carl out of danger, yet Carl runs right in to the danger" thing had run its course. His zombie kill with no remourse was obviously to establish that he had grown up and adjusted to the new world order.

I'm really interested how the prisoners work out on TV (I'm sure the people who read the comics would be interested as well). I doubt there time t the prison will drag, that's for sure.

As a side note, I rewatched the second season last week on NetFlix and man it was really good without the commercials. Way better than it was waiting from week to week. 18 Miles Out and Better Angels were phenominal episodes.

[Lodeus]

With the kid that plays Carl growing in real life pretty fast, its smart to have age pretty realistically in the show.

[MichaelWinicki]

To the point I was able to overlook the Scooby Doo type scenes in the prision halls.

This.

Very well put.

For a group that had been surviving out on their own for several months since the abandonment of the farm, raiding, living off the land and not losing anyone, the sequence in the halls was more like something out of a "Keystone cops" than it was a finely-tuned "machine".

[Phoenix]

Walking Dead on FXUK ‏@WalkingDeadFXUK (https://twitter.com/WalkingDeadFXUK) Walking Dead fact: the season 3 premiere has more zombies than the entire first season! #WalkingDeadFXUK (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WalkingDeadFXUK&src=hash)




:)

[Yeagermeister]

With the kid that plays Carl growing in real life pretty fast, its smart to have age pretty realistically in the show.

This was probably the only episode that they knew where he was the whole time. :laugh1:

[Future]

It was a good premier episode.

I didn't think it was out & out great, but solid.

A lot of good zombie kills.
I think I agree with this.

Maybe I shouldn't have read the comics, idk, but I wasn't nearly as drawn to it as a I have been in the past.

[KoRnyBrad]

I thought it was a good episode, I do agree the hallway scene at the end was odd. Where did all those zombies come from the hall they "cleared". I thought Carl and Herschel aged a lot for just being a winter since we last saw them. Lori looks like she is bigger than she should be, but I'm no OB lol. Herschel is definitely Dale from the comics now with the leg. Interested to see where the Lori baby thing goes. If it is dead will it be a ZomBaby?:D Also curious to see how the prisoners work out. There is more of them than in the comics. Didn't see a old biker dude (Axel in the comics) among them.

[ROUSH8692]

Spoiler ....^^^

[MichaelWinicki]

Wow!

If last week's episode was a 8, this one was a 9.9 for me.

Very powerful episode.

One of the best of the series.

So many high-points.

[Yeagermeister]

Wow!

If last week's episode was a 8, this one was a 9.9 for me.

Very powerful episode.

One of the best of the series.

So many high-points.

When Lori said she was a bad mother I said at least they know where Carl is in this episode then he sneaks off to find the infirmary. :laugh1:

[Future]

Wow!

If last week's episode was a 8, this one was a 9.9 for me.

Very powerful episode.

One of the best of the series.

So many high-points.
Maybe I just don't like what they're doing with Rick, but I didn't have the same take on the episode as you. I think they're turning everyone into a caricature right now...super exaggerated.

Lori is ridiculously emotional.
Herschel's daughter (whose name I can't remember) is overboard innocent.
Rick is ice cold.
Carl is rebellious and fighting with his mom for no reason.

I still enjoy the show, but I don't think the characters are believable any more, which for a show that is supposed to be a realistic fiction of sorts, really hurts it.

[MichaelWinicki]

Maybe I just don't like what they're doing with Rick, but I didn't have the same take on the episode as you. I think they're turning everyone into a caricature right now...super exaggerated.

Lori is ridiculously emotional.
Herschel's daughter (whose name I can't remember) is overboard innocent.
Rick is ice cold.
Carl is rebellious and fighting with his mom for no reason.

I still enjoy the show, but I don't think the characters are believable any more, which for a show that is supposed to be a realistic fiction of sorts, really hurts it.

You make some good points Future.

I think it takes looking at the situation as a whole... What I mean is look at the situation for the big perspective. Hell has literally turned upside down. I think the circumstances would turn anyone into a caricature if that's the right word.

[BrAinPaiNt]

You make some good points Future.

I think it takes looking at the situation as a whole... What I mean is look at the situation for the big perspective. Hell has literally turned upside down. I think the circumstances would turn anyone into a caricature if that's the right word.

Correct.

I have always said that zombie movies (shows) were never really about the zombies. The zombies were just the catalyst or accelerate to the humans. The humans and how they act or interact with other humans is always the central issue.

When so much is brought forward to cause massive confusion, horror, stress and any other negative emotion...the humans emotions and actions will be completely amplified to what their normal personality would be sometimes not only will they be amplified but at times completely changed.

[MichaelWinicki]

Exactly right Brain.


Take Rick for instance.

He starts off getting shot in the first episode, which has to be very traumatic in its own right.

You get a snapshot of Rick's mindset right before he get's shot the second time, which puts him in the hospital. After the first bullet hits his vest, he gets up and says, "Can you believe that? he shot me."

If the first shot didn't shock him mentally, the second one definitely did.

And since that point he hasn't had any chance to "catch his breath" so to speak.

He wakes up in a world that would absolutely stun any of us, and then he finds out his family is missing.

Then he deals with extreme forms of violence both against he undead and the living.

He finds his family and then finds out his wife and best friend have been carrying on. And then he finds out his wife is preggers, with him maybe not being the father.

His best friend then attempts to kill him.

Oh and in between all that he witnesses his son being shot and almost dies. And he feels guilty for losing one of the members of this group– a small child who can't defend herself.

My gosh, who wouldn't be transformed after going through all that?

[BrAinPaiNt]

Exactly right Brain.


Take Rick for instance.

He starts off getting shot in the first episode, which has to be very traumatic in its own right.

You get a snapshot of Rick's mindset right before he get's shot the second time, which puts him in the hospital. After the first bullet hits his vest, he gets up and says, "Can you believe that? he shot me."

If the first shot didn't shock him mentally, the second one definitely did.

And since that point he hasn't had any chance to "catch his breath" so to speak.

He wakes up in a world that would absolutely stun any of us, and then he finds out his family is missing.

Then he deals with extreme forms of violence both against he undead and the living.

He finds his family and then finds out his wife and best friend have been carrying on. And then he finds out his wife is preggers, with him maybe not being the father.

His best friend then attempts to kill him.

Oh and in between all that he witnesses his son being shot and almost dies. And he feels guilty for losing one of the members of this group– a small child who can't defend herself.

My gosh, who wouldn't be transformed after going through all that?

Yep and let's not forget that he killed the two guys at the bar so this sudden ability to kill someone else is not without history. But he still did so after being drawn on first at the bar and this time with the other guy clearly trying to get him bit twice.

[gambit187]

About a month ago I caught season 1 and 2 on NETFLIX......After watching I started to cry....because I felt like a bad person for missing such a great show......THIS STUFF IS GREAT....I'M HOOKED....LOL...yeah I know I'm late....and yes I am up to date on season 3 and loving it.....

I only hope that my sons are ready to kill zombies the way I have been teaching them like Karl. lol

[Phoenix]

About a month ago I caught season 1 and 2 on NETFLIX......After watching I started to cry....because I felt like a bad person for missing such a great show......THIS STUFF IS GREAT....I'M HOOKED....LOL...yeah I know I'm late....and yes I am up to date on season 3 and loving it.....



Not to get sidetracked too much, but I just finished doing the exact same thing in a sense...I watched all of S1 & S2 of Game of Thrones on HBO On Demand. Awesome show also! :)

[gambit187]

Found this site and event interesting......will most likely try to take my sons to one of these next year...

http://www.runforyourlives.com/

[theogt]

This season has been crazy good so far. The zombie slaying is balls to the wall.

[Future]

You make some good points Future.

I think it takes looking at the situation as a whole... What I mean is look at the situation for the big perspective. Hell has literally turned upside down. I think the circumstances would turn anyone into a caricature if that's the right word.
Well I guess maybe that's the whole point of the series then :laugh2:

The more I think on it, the more I think it's just the writing I don't like. Every character trait seems forced in that they aren't allowing the character development to be subtle. It's painfully obvious who they want the characters to be.

During season one I kinda cringed a couple of times, but I think now I'm just totally turned off by it. The first scene was the one with the 3 women (Andrea, Carol and Jacqui maybe) and they make a joke about a vibrator. It was just corny and I think that instances like that have happened more and more often.

[Joe Rod]

This season has been crazy good so far. The zombie slaying is balls to the wall.

Totally agree. I really like how the characters evolved since last season and the Zombies have been overflowing so far. The next few episodes should be really good. Hopefully a little background for Michonne and some catch-up with what happened with her and Andrea since season two ended.

[Yeagermeister]

Totally agree. I really like how the characters evolved since last season and the Zombies have been overflowing so far. The next few episodes should be really good. Hopefully a little background for Michonne and some catch-up with what happened with her and Andrea since season two ended.

The reason the zombies are overflowing is because it's a prison and they didn't have a way to get out. Personally I would have stayed on the outside and just killed them through the fence before going in. :laugh2:

[MichaelWinicki]

Good interview with Glen Mazarra concerning the last episode...

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/walking-dead-episode-2-sick-glen-mazzara-talks-ricks-new-outlook-and-what-happened-in-the-prison.html

[Derekmtl85]

Not to get sidetracked too much, but I just finished doing the exact same thing in a sense...I watched all of S1 & S2 of Game of Thrones on HBO On Demand. Awesome show also! :)

You should read the books. I love the show...but it doesn't even compare to the book series. Amazing.


As for the season so far...wow, what can you say? The first 2 episodes so far are two of the best of the series, in my opinion.

And yeah...saying the characters aren't believable because...1. A pregnant girl in a zombie apocalypse is too emotional? Really? lol I know girls more emotional than her, without being pregnant or the fear of having a zombie baby inside them

2. Hershel's innocent daughter, all she has ever known is her small town, small farm, easy simple life...now she has to watch people kill Walkers, kill humans, etc.

3. Rick ice cold...why wouldn't he be? His best friend tried to kill him, the guys in the bar tried to kill him, Walkers are trying to kill him, and everything that happened before the prison...i totally understand how ice cold he is. And even after he locked the door to the prison, leaving the prisoner outside with the Walkers, he still had the "God...i had to do it" type of look on his face.

4.Carl, he's growing up in a world with death and blood all over, normal kids are rebelious and fight with their parents...imagine in a zombie apocalypse.

Totally understand the evolution of the characters.

[Phoenix]

You should read the books. I love the show...but it doesn't even compare to the book series. Amazing.




Somebody else told me that not long ago...already bought and downloaded to my Kindle...they're next up in my reading queue :)

[Phrozen Phil]

A young guy I know has decided to stop reading the stories as he finds it too depressing. He describes the stories as "vacuuming up all hope". I, on the other hand, don't take it seriously at all. I must clearly state, for the record, that I have declined to go on a "Zombie Walk".:)

[Doomsday]

Great show, this season has been amazing so far.

A man has to do what a man has to do. That is especially true when he is defending his family and friends. Rick is a real man and he is going to do WHATEVER he has to keep his family alive, even if it means going against everything he use to believe in.

[Lodeus]

Andrea is getting annoying again.

[xout]

Stuff got real with this episode... The Governor is indeed a twisted freak. Here's hoping he proves to be a better antagonist than even Gus Fring or the Trinity Killer.

[MichaelWinicki]

Stuff got real with this episode... The Governor is indeed a twisted freak. Here's hoping he proves to be a better antagonist than even Gus Fring or the Trinity Killer.

Yeah, kept waiting for him to show his evil side... About 45 minutes in.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah, kept waiting for him to show his evil side... About 45 minutes in.

Well...I was waiting for him to go into his locked room, waiting for him to sit down and then waited for his daughter to move into the scene...only to see aquariums with zombie heads in them.

I realize the show tries to be different than the book but I thought the daughter thing would have fit in well but I guess they had enough little zombie girls with sophia. :laugh2:

[MichaelWinicki]

Well...I was waiting for him to go into his locked room, waiting for him to sit down and then waited for his daughter to move into the scene...only to see aquariums with zombie heads in them.

I realize the show tries to be different than the book but I thought the daughter thing would have fit in well but I guess they had enough little zombie girls with sophia. :laugh2:

The book is in many ways, which I guess they had to tone it down for TV, just really... effed up, when it comes to folks doing weird or ghastly stuff.

Like the part in the book where the convict beheads two of Herschel's daughters.

I wasn't ready for that at all. :laugh1:

[Future]

Andrea is getting annoying again.
:laugh2: yea. And if they are going to have Michonne silent all the time, stop showing her. A person can only give an icy cold stare for so long in a TV show.

I thought this episode was better, but everything just seems so exaggerated and drawn out. I'll keep watching but I'm pretty much over it.

[bklyn1028]

:laugh2: yea. And if they are going to have Michonne silent all the time, stop showing her. A person can only give an icy cold stare for so long in a TV show.

I thought this episode was better, but everything just seems so exaggerated and drawn out. I'll keep watching but I'm pretty much over it.

I felt the exact same way last night. It was ok....but it's starting to get predictible. I think they brought Merle back with his stump just to add to the story because they are running out of ideas, just my take on it.....


I am feeling the say way about American Horror STory....second season is horrible.

[Rackat]

One thing about last night's episode, no one had to ask "Where is Carl?".

[BrAinPaiNt]

One thing about last night's episode, no one had to ask "Where is Carl?".

Would have been funny...as just a joke to the fans, if andrea told Merle that his brother was still alive the last time she saw him and that Carl was in the house. :laugh2:

[MichaelWinicki]

I felt the exact same way last night. It was ok....but it's starting to get predictible. I think they brought Merle back with his stump just to add to the story because they are running out of ideas, just my take on it.....


I am feeling the say way about American Horror STory....second season is horrible.

Really... You think it's getting predictable?

See I think if someone has not read the comic book then the scenes like the ambush of the National Guard unit along with the Gov going into his office to gaze upon his wall of heads would be far from predictable.

[jnday]

Really... You think it's getting predictable?

See I think if someone has not read the comic book then the scenes like the ambush of the National Guard unit along with the Gov going into his office to gaze upon his wall of heads would be far from predictable.

I agree. A quick look at the comics shows that they are far from running out of material. I think the surprises about the Governor was good stuff. Who actually expected a room full of heads?

[Future]

Really... You think it's getting predictable?

See I think if someone has not read the comic book then the scenes like the ambush of the National Guard unit along with the Gov going into his office to gaze upon his wall of heads would be far from predictable.
Agree completely. I think I said it not long ago, but reading the comics has I think hurt the show for me. There's no more mystery or intrigue, as I know where everything is headed.

[Aikmaniac]

I haven't read the comics, but last night's episode wasn't all that interesting to me.

I could see the Governor as a snake from a mile away. I realize some back story is needed for character development and that it's a long season, but it was a dragging episode. Hopefully this season picks up steam in the second half, a la last season.

Maybe it was a hangover after the Cowboys loss.

[Joe Rod]

Really... You think it's getting predictable?

See I think if someone has not read the comic book then the scenes like the ambush of the National Guard unit along with the Gov going into his office to gaze upon his wall of heads would be far from predictable.

That should have been a suprise to everone since they did not ambush a group of National Guardsmen in the Comic. Seems they are actually implementing some of his behavior from "The Rise of the Governor" (a Walking Dead Novel that gives his back-story in case you wanted to know) where he kept his disturbing/brutal side a little more closely guarded.

Truth be told, there are a lot of twists in the show that were not in the Comic. Way more good than bad in my opinion. The story line in general follows the comic "loosely", but nowhere close to exact. Last night's episode was somewhat necessary so peeople could get an understanding of The Governor, Woodberry and Michonne's character.

[Doomsday]

As someone who didnt read the book, I wouldnt say it is getting predictable. I just think they have to build some background on some of these new characters so people like me know what is going on. It was a bit predictable that something was off with the Gov just because of the fact that they needed some type of new danger to keep the tension going.

I haven't read the comics, but last night's episode wasn't all that interesting to me.

I could see the Governor as a snake from a mile away. I realize some back story is needed for character development and that it's a long season, but it was a dragging episode. Hopefully this season picks up steam in the second half, a la last season.


I kept waiting for them to go back to the prison, that story is much more interesting to me as well. I am assuming they will tie things together here pretty soon.

[Yeagermeister]

As someone who didnt read the book, I wouldnt say it is getting predictable. I just think they have to build some background on some of these new characters so people like me know what is going on. It was a bit predictable that something was off with the Gov just because of the fact that they needed some type of new danger to keep the tension going.



I kept waiting for them to go back to the prison, that story is much more interesting to me as well. I am assuming they will tie things together here pretty soon.

There's a family reunion coming some time soon :laugh1:

[MichaelWinicki]

There's a family reunion coming some time soon :laugh1:

That I think was predictable. :)

[MichaelWinicki]

Wow!

This week's episode was a big-old punch to the gut.

[Rackat]

Yes, it was.

[iceberg]

best hour of TV i've ever watched.

[jnday]

Wow!

This week's episode was a big-old punch to the gut.

What a show. I am glad Rick's wife is gone though.

[MichaelWinicki]

best hour of TV i've ever watched.

Most that have not watched the show would claim hyperbole with your comment there ice, but the fact is that was simply one powerful hour of TV.

[MichaelWinicki]

What a show. I am glad Rick's wife is gone though.

I was sad about it. Granted the character she played had a lot of issues that made her unlikeable many times, but that character served a purpose throughout seasons 1 and 2. The "T" dog role is easily fillable. Hers? Not so much.

[Rowdy]

I may be in the minority here but I wouldn't be surprised if she was still alive. Obviously there is a slim chance she is but how do we know she was shot? Her son could have just shot into the air because he couldn't go through with it but hasn't said anything yet. Then again, they made the ending before the baby was born a big deal so who knows.

[MichaelWinicki]

I may be in the minority here but I wouldn't be surprised if she was still alive. Obviously there is a slim chance she is but how do we know she was shot? Her son could have just shot into the air because he couldn't go through with it but hasn't said anything yet. Then again, they made the ending before the baby was born a big deal so who knows.

I thought about that too Rowdy.

Not seeing her get shot is like when Silvio shot Adrianna (Soprano's reference)... You heard it but didn't see it.

[Yeagermeister]

I was sad about it. Granted the character she played had a lot of issues that made her unlikeable many times, but that character served a purpose throughout seasons 1 and 2. The "T" dog role is easily fillable. Hers? Not so much.

TDog had just been filler for a long time so it was no shocker even thought it would have been interesting to see how Merle would have reacted to seeing him. :laugh1:

[Yeagermeister]

I may be in the minority here but I wouldn't be surprised if she was still alive. Obviously there is a slim chance she is but how do we know she was shot? Her son could have just shot into the air because he couldn't go through with it but hasn't said anything yet. Then again, they made the ending before the baby was born a big deal so who knows.

I thought about that too Rowdy.

Not seeing her get shot is like when Silvio shot Adrianna (Soprano's reference)... You heard it but didn't see it.

Seeing her as a walker would be interesting. Would Rick put her down?

[gambit187]

Last night was crucial.....I was in tears......hit harder when Rick looked at his son and fell out......

[jnday]

I thought about that too Rowdy.

Not seeing her get shot is like when Silvio shot Adrianna (Soprano's reference)... You heard it but didn't see it.

Any post with a Soprano's reference has to be a winner. I miss that show.

[MichaelWinicki]

Any post with a Soprano's reference has to be a winner. I miss that show.

Boy, you and me both.

It's stunning how few shows I watch, not because they aren't the quality of "The Soprano's", because that's unrealistic... but because they aren't even close.

I end up feeling like I'm wasting my time watching or trying to watch a lot of shows.

[Hailmary]

I may be in the minority here but I wouldn't be surprised if she was still alive. Obviously there is a slim chance she is but how do we know she was shot? Her son could have just shot into the air because he couldn't go through with it but hasn't said anything yet. Then again, they made the ending before the baby was born a big deal so who knows.

I was kinda thinking the same, that is about Carl not being able to go through with it. I think the look on his face could have been interpreted as one of two things. 1) He did in fact go through with it and had the look of taking care of business and coming of age in the zombie apocalypse. 2) Look of anger towards himself for not being able to go through with it.

If Carl did in fact not been able to go through with it, I think the chances of Lori still being alive is non existent. She would've either bled out or would've been devoured by the dead shortly after.

[a_minimalist]

Well this one had me close to tears. I did NOT see that coming.

[danielofthesaints]

The acting by Rick's character was one of the most realistic meltdowns I've ever seen. Brilliant actor.

[Future]

I was kinda thinking the same, that is about Carl not being able to go through with it. I think the look on his face could have been interpreted as one of two things. 1) He did in fact go through with it and had the look of taking care of business and coming of age in the zombie apocalypse. 2) Look of anger towards himself for not being able to go through with it.

If Carl did in fact not been able to go through with it, I think the chances of Lori still being alive is non existent. She would've either bled out or would've been devoured by the dead shortly after.
She died in the novels around this time, no way she'll be back I don't think.

This was one of the better episodes of the series. I still think Michonne is a ridiculous character, but Andrea's development into being almost sexual is a cool change.

T Dog's death is simply going to be replaced by the new prisoner whose name escapes me. Maybe they make him the football player?

[Howardlittleton64]

She died in the novels around this time, no way she'll be back I don't think.

This was one of the better episodes of the series. I still think Michonne is a ridiculous character, but Andrea's development into being almost sexual is a cool change.

T Dog's death is simply going to be replaced by the new prisoner whose name escapes me. Maybe they make him the football player?

She had the baby and died when they were leaving in the books. Killed by Zombies. T Dog was a good character I was shocked to see him killed off. Michonne is in the books she is a great character. The story line with her and Andrea is dumb. The have taken a lot of liberties from the comics. We will see how it ties together. I was disappointed with last night and the season as a whole so far, but then again I'm expecting it to be more like the comics. I don't see one of the prisoners killing one of the survivors like in the books.

[EMMITTnROY]

Just to touch on a few things that were mentioned here...

1. Best hour of TV ever? I'm sorry, but as a fan of The Sopranos, Dexter, LOST, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy and The Shield, this isn't even close. It was a good episode, sure, but nothing from The Walking Dead could ever touch the best from those other shows because the quality of the writing, acting, directing, characters and storylines were so much better. I dig The Walking Dead, but it lacks the emotional punch of those other shows I mentioned.

2. I'm glad Lori is dead. She was one of the most annoying TV characters I've ever seen. Her actions nor her words made any sense. "Rick, kill Shane, he's a threat!" ... Rick kills Shane in self defense... "You killed Shane?! You horrible monster, get away from me!!!" Ugh. I was literally clapping and cheering once I realized they were gonna kill her.

3. I was more upset about losing Silent T Dog than I was Lori. True story.

4. That said, Rick's breakdown was fantastic. Best piece of acting there's ever been on The Walking Dead, barnone.

5. Now THAT said, some fans are saying it's the best acting ever done on TV, period. Please refer to the shows listed in my #1 point. Watch Tony and Carmela Soprano have a little domestic dispute. Watch Dexter Morgan internalize the emotion of love as nothingness then attempt to outwardly express it. Watch Benjamin Linus and John Locke in a battle of wits. Watch Walter White verbally explode on the weaker, sweeter Jesse Pinkman. Watch an incarcerated D'Angelo Barksdale scream out "Where's Wallace?!" at a quietly boiling Stringer Bell. Rick's breakdown was really great, but it's not an all-timer.

[Phoenix]

*spoiler alert*

Interview with Sarah Wayne Callies (Lori Grimes) about this episode

http://blogs.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/2012/11/sarah-wayne-callies-interview.php

[Joe Rod]

She died in the novels around this time, no way she'll be back I don't think.

This was one of the better episodes of the series. I still think Michonne is a ridiculous character, but Andrea's development into being almost sexual is a cool change.

T Dog's death is simply going to be replaced by the new prisoner whose name escapes me. Maybe they make him the football player?

You mean Tyrese. He was a good character in the comics. The interesting thing is that Lori's death served a much bigger purpose in the comics as far as this prison storyline goes.

[iceberg]

Just to touch on a few things that were mentioned here...

1. Best hour of TV ever? I'm sorry, but as a fan of The Sopranos, Dexter, LOST, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy and The Shield, this isn't even close. It was a good episode, sure, but nothing from The Walking Dead could ever touch the best from those other shows because the quality of the writing, acting, directing, characters and storylines were so much better. I dig The Walking Dead, but it lacks the emotional punch of those other shows I mentioned.

2. I'm glad Lori is dead. She was one of the most annoying TV characters I've ever seen. Her actions nor her words made any sense. "Rick, kill Shane, he's a threat!" ... Rick kills Shane in self defense... "You killed Shane?! You horrible monster, get away from me!!!" Ugh. I was literally clapping and cheering once I realized they were gonna kill her.

3. I was more upset about losing Silent T Dog than I was Lori. True story.

4. That said, Rick's breakdown was fantastic. Best piece of acting there's ever been on The Walking Dead, barnone.

5. Now THAT said, some fans are saying it's the best acting ever done on TV, period. Please refer to the shows listed in my #1 point. Watch Tony and Carmela Soprano have a little domestic dispute. Watch Dexter Morgan internalize the emotion of love as nothingness then attempt to outwardly express it. Watch Benjamin Linus and John Locke in a battle of wits. Watch Walter White verbally explode on the weaker, sweeter Jesse Pinkman. Watch an incarcerated D'Angelo Barksdale scream out "Where's Wallace?!" at a quietly boiling Stringer Bell. Rick's breakdown was really great, but it's not an all-timer.

well, i don't watch tv to your standards of entertainment, but to my own. this was one of the most enjoyable episodes i've EVER seen and to me, the best hour of TV in a long long long LONG time. take out 1 episode of BOSS and it's the best in many years gone by.

just not into many of the shows you named, sorry.

this show took some major twists and setup quite a few story possibilities that *to me* make it far from predictable.

1) i stand by best hour of TV. glad you disagree and have others to point to but i don't watch those although i've tried.

2) if you were clapping and cheering, then the writers did their job. that said, i'm glad this part of the story is over. carl has a lot to have to deal with now, putting down shane and having to put a bullet in his own mothers head. rick has his hands full here.

3) anyone notice the no-hair chic also got ate and didn't make it? tdog did great in trying to get her free, but hers was the body they found.

4) agreed. he pulled a ton of emotion out of me in how he broke down and staggered back and forth.

5) not into rating. i enjoyed this show because of how they ended some story lines and started quite a few more. i rated this show so high because of how they told the story in as much as the "acting".

those other shows you mention just don't do it for me. so i'll stand by what i said and feel free to disagree.

[AmarilloCowboyFan]

3) anyone notice the no-hair chic also got ate and didn't make it? tdog did great in trying to get her free, but hers was the body they found.


See, I was wondering about that. I thought it was T-Dogg's body there. I know Daryl picked up her head thing but when T-Dogg was helping her get out she was at the door leading outside. I know Hershel said no one came out of there but I thought that was T-Dogg's body.



EDIT:

Just found an interview that says it wasn't her body. It much have been T-Dog's so she could still be alive.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/04/walking-dead-robert-kirkman-8/

[Phrozen Phil]

A friend of my son owns a comic book store and I asked him what he thought of the series. He told me that he stopped reading the comic, as it was just "too depressing". He does watch the show, strangely enough, and feels that it's pretty true to the fel of the comc book. It is incredibly tragic and I can see why people might not find it their cup of tea. Personally, I enjoy the whole "zombie" shtick. Perhaps the trick is to be grounded in your own reality and avoid the "Bath Salts".;)

[iceberg]

See, I was wondering about that. I thought it was T-Dogg's body there. I know Daryl picked up her head thing but when T-Dogg was helping her get out she was at the door leading outside. I know Hershel said no one came out of there but I thought that was T-Dogg's body.

EDIT:

Just found an interview that says it wasn't her body. It much have been T-Dog's so she could still be alive.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/04/walking-dead-robert-kirkman-8/

nice find. i thought at first it was tdog also then the "wrap" was there and when they asked about tdog and her, everyone said they didn't make it.

guess we'll find out next week.

[MichaelWinicki]

Hey Emmitt, I think you gave the episode short-shift because you dislike the Lori character so much.

I think if you look at the bigger picture you'll realize how strong of an episode it actually was.

No doubt Lori is dead.

And T-dog was dead too... He took some wicked bites.

[Joe Rod]

Hey Emmitt, I think you gave the episode short-shift because you dislike the Lori character so much.

I think if you look at the bigger picture you'll realize how strong of an episode it actually was.

No doubt Lori is dead.

And T-dog was dead too... He took some wicked bites.

I don't believe it is a short shaft as much as it is a matter of taste and the hang-over from the first half of season 2. Darabont has done a lot of great things in his day (Shawshank, Green Mile), but he could not wrap his mind around the highs and lows needed for week to week television. As a result, he really hosed up the first half of season two. Lori and Carl became disturbingly annoying and the Farm shows became incredibly drawn out in that time-frame.

Since Mazarra replaced Darabont, he has done a fantastic job of picking up the pace and fixing the issues that Darabont left behind. The face off episode between Shane and Rick at the end of last season was far better than this past Sunday in my opinion, but that is just nitpicking. The good news is that there has been no shortage of quality episodes since Mazarra has taken over and it is a must watch show every week in my book.

[Lodeus]

That episode :(

It was great though

[Aikmaniac]

I thought the last episode's greatness was only rivaled by the Shane episode late last season. I'm trying to remain spoiler free for those who may not have caught up yet.

[Mash]

IMHO I dont know about this being a great episode...its was good...but I wouldnt call it great....by any means...

I love the show and all ...and im glad Lori is dead too.....way too annoying...the son is tough....

btw...I think the bald lady is still alive....that wasnt her body...I cant see them having a character like her just end like that....The Black guy sacrificed his life for her....cant see it meant for nothing.

JMHO of course

[Rack Bauer]

Agree with iceberg, one of the best hours of TV I've seen in a long time.


TWD is the most underrated show on TV.

[Lodeus]

http://i.imgur.com/zFzIK.png

[Faerluna]

I didn't like Lori as a character, but I bawled my eyes out for her.

[Rowdy]

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa428/Redeemed67/lori-cosmo.jpg

[Yeagermeister]

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa428/Redeemed67/lori-cosmo.jpg

:laugh1: :bow:

[Yeagermeister]

http://i.imgur.com/zFzIK.png

:laugh1:

[MichaelWinicki]

http://i.imgur.com/zFzIK.png

Gotta that made me laugh out loud! :laugh1:

[Lodeus]

Another one

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276/FrshChees/lostT-dog.jpg

[MegaMagick]

Michonne: This place is bad, we need to leave!

Andrea: It's really not, here we have food, shelter, etc

Michonne: These people don't want us to leave, no one makes it out of here alive!

Andrea: What are you talking about, you need to give me more to go on..

Michonne: This place isn't what it seems...

:laugh2:

[MegaMagick]

They're making Michonne another Tara(girl from True Blood), she seems like a complete headcase.

[Lodeus]

Did that one have a gut from eating Lori?

[MegaMagick]

"Hey man, i ate yo girl!"

"u mad?"

[Yeagermeister]

So Carol is dead also?

[Hailmary]

So Carol is dead also?

Well, they dug three graves, didn't they? One for Lori, one for T-Dog and one for....?

We know Andrew definitely died, but would they have bothered giving him a proper burial? Probably not. So I guess we're to assume that Carol didn't make it, but who knows....

[Howardlittleton64]

So Carol is dead also?

They think se is because all they found was her head wrap. They never found her, I think she turns up

[MichaelWinicki]

They think se is because all they found was her head wrap. They never found her, I think she turns up

Yeah, I think she turns up too.

[MichaelWinicki]

An "OK" episode.

But IMO the weakest of season 3 (so far).

So are they telling us that one zombie ate Lorie? LOL!

[Yeagermeister]

I usually go with if you don't see them get killed or don't see a body they are still alive or a walker. I'm still not convinced Carl killed Lori.

[Future]

Michonne: This place is bad, we need to leave!

Andrea: It's really not, here we have food, shelter, etc

Michonne: These people don't want us to leave, no one makes it out of here alive!

Andrea: What are you talking about, you need to give me more to go on..

Michonne: This place isn't what it seems...

:laugh2:
Seriously, Michonne is written so poorly it's almost comical.

I thought the only cool thing with last night's episode - which was really awesome - was what they did with the governor *dont want to give away spoiler.

They really duped those, like me, who have read the comics and know what he has in his house. Really creative way to add a surprisee.

[Howardlittleton64]

I usually go with if you don't see them get killed or don't see a body they are still alive or a walker. I'm still not convinced Carl killed Lori.

Me either

[Joe Rod]

Rick seems stressed.

[Howardlittleton64]

Rick seems stressed.

:laugh2:

[Future]

http://i.imgur.com/zFzIK.png
:laugh2:

win

[iceberg]

An "OK" episode.

But IMO the weakest of season 3 (so far).

So are they telling us that one zombie ate Lorie? LOL!

this show was just confusing. did the fat zombie eat lori? if so, why was a grave dug? rick's ranting was overboard and i didn't buy a second of it.

where could the bald chic have gone to where she's out for an entire episode? it makes no sense. as far as i can tell this is a lousy follow up to one of my fav episodes.

[Phoenix]

Rick seems stressed.


Finally was able to watch the episode. Loved it. Yep, Rick is starting to go over the deep end as he did in the comic....ring ring! bwaa ha ha. I wonder if Michonne will start with her, ahem, weirdness as well...that was great in the comics when Rick & Michonne kind of found each other out ha ha.

Picturing this episode in comics form, it was classic Robert Kirkman stuff. Especially the bloated zombie after having EATEN Lori! And there is NO doubt at all that (1) Carl shot his mom AFTER she died giving birth and that (2) a zombie happened along and literally ate her. Entirely. Leave it to Kirkman to go into that kind of horror. Guess he did it on the show because of some of the other things he could not do that he did in the comics...

[a_minimalist]

this show was just confusing. did the fat zombie eat lori? if so, why was a grave dug? rick's ranting was overboard and i didn't buy a second of it.

where could the bald chic have gone to where she's out for an entire episode? it makes no sense. as far as i can tell this is a lousy follow up to one of my fav episodes.

Isn't the bald chick dead?

[Phoenix]

Isn't the bald chick dead?


They are leaving us guessing right now of the fate of Carol, I think, based on their interview responses on Talking Dead and stuff...

[Idgit]

this show was just confusing. did the fat zombie eat lori? if so, why was a grave dug? rick's ranting was overboard and i didn't buy a second of it.

where could the bald chic have gone to where she's out for an entire episode? it makes no sense. as far as i can tell this is a lousy follow up to one of my fav episodes.

It was a placeholder episode to setup future action, yeah. A bit disappointing. I think they dug the grave not knowing she was inside a fat zombie's belly. But Rick got what was left back. I expect Carol to make an appearance as a zombie down the road. I've been staying away from the comic book plots, so that's just a wild guess.

[Faerluna]

In the "scenes from the next episode," Darryl said "This is Carol's knot" or something to that effect. Led me to think that he realizes that she's still in there alive.

It was a quick clip and I might have misinterpreted, but that's how I took it.

[zrinkill]

In the "scenes from the next episode," Darryl said "This is Carol's knot" or something to that effect. Led me to think that he realizes that she's still in there alive.

It was a quick clip and I might have misinterpreted, but that's how I took it.

Knive

[a_minimalist]

They are leaving us guessing right now of the fate of Carol, I think, based on their interview responses on Talking Dead and stuff...

That's interesting and sort of silly at the same time. I could care less if she comes back as a zombie. That would do nothing to the story for me. If she's alive and starving locked in a cell somewhere, that's interesting.

Rick is starting to get on my nerves and might need to die soon.

[Howardlittleton64]

That's interesting and sort of silly at the same time. I could care less if she comes back as a zombie. That would do nothing to the story for me. If she's alive and starving locked in a cell somewhere, that's interesting.

Rick is starting to get on my nerves and might need to die soon.

In the comics neither die at least as far as I have gotten (past the jail). In fact the old guy, carol's daughter didn't die either. The guy whose leg was cut off wasn't Herschel either. They didn't come with them originally to the jail. Rick died way earlier too. I like the show my wife said that they wrote a book based on the series.

[Phoenix]

In the comics neither die at least as far as I have gotten (past the jail). In fact the old guy, carol's daughter didn't die either. The guy whose leg was cut off wasn't Herschel either. They didn't come with them originally to the jail. Rick died way earlier too. I like the show my wife said that they wrote a book based on the series.


Did you mean Shane? :)

One of the producers said recently that the series is essentially "Rick's Story" (about the post-zombie apocalypse)

[BrAinPaiNt]

Did you mean Shane? :)

One of the producers said recently that the series is essentially "Rick's Story" (about the post-zombie apocalypse)

Yes he meant shane. Also in the comics lori did not die at this point but shortly after when something else happens.

In the episode Lori is dead and is not coming back. Whether Carl shot her or not makes no difference as the fat zombie that rick killed did indeed eat Lori and had hair in his hands and mouth...they talked about this in the talking dead episode.

Carol seems to still be a mystery which kind of sucks because we had to go through that crap with her Daughter Sophie...so hopefully they will have her show up in the next episode (alive or undead) and not drag that out.

[Joe Rod]

Yes he meant shane. Also in the comics lori did not die at this point but shortly after when something else happens.

In the episode Lori is dead and is not coming back. Whether Carl shot her or not makes no difference as the fat zombie that rick killed did indeed eat Lori and had hair in his hands and mouth...they talked about this in the talking dead episode.

Carol seems to still be a mystery which kind of sucks because we had to go through that crap with her Daughter Sophie...so hopefully they will have her show up in the next episode (alive or undead) and not drag that out.

I think they learned their lessons with Sophie (not to mention a different guy is steering the show starting with the resolution of the Sophie saga if memory serves). I lay serious odds that Carol is resolved by the end of the next episode so they can get on with the Governor vs Rick plot.

[Phoenix]

In the episode Lori is dead and is not coming back.

You sure about that? Ring ring :D

[iceberg]

You sure about that? Ring ring :D

run to the light, rick! run to the light!

[BrAinPaiNt]

You sure about that? Ring ring :D

Part of me was hoping they would not do the phone thing but I knew they would because as crazy as it makes him seem, it is really what keeps him on the path from going fully crazy.

[Aikmaniac]

I don't want to be spoiled here, but who would have the number for that particular cellblock phone AND would elicit that reaction from Rick?

I guess I'm just asking for some speculation.

[zrinkill]

I think the phone may be a swerve for the comics reader and may actually be carol trapped in another part of the prison .... maybe the phone was on one of the same circuits as the alarm from last episode.

[Future]

I think the phone may be a swerve for the comics reader and may actually be carol trapped in another part of the prison .... maybe the phone was on one of the same circuits as the alarm from last episode.
Interesting take...but wasn't there a scene where Rick said something to Carl about remembering who you are...or holding on to yourself...something along those lines?

[MichaelWinicki]

Interesting take...but wasn't there a scene where Rick said something to Carl about remembering who you are...or holding on to yourself...something along those lines?

That is an interesting take about phone.

It reminded of the "Twilight Zone" episode where the old gal keeps getting nightly phone calls from someone that knows her but she initially doesn't know the caller.

Later we find out the phone line has been downed next to a cemetery with the broken line laying on the grave of her former fiancé.

[MichaelWinicki]

One of the producers said recently that the series is essentially "Rick's Story" (about the post-zombie apocalypse)

That's understandable.

I don't see Rick dying unless the series ends.

[MichaelWinicki]

Good episode last night.

The "hunt" for Michonne was pretty good.

And her slice across the abdomen of one of the zombies was one of the best scenes I've seen in any zombie film/show.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Good episode last night.

The "hunt" for Michonne was pretty good.

And her slice across the abdomen of one of the zombies was one of the best scenes I've seen in any zombie film/show.

G O Back and merle calling it a biter gram (think that was what he said)that cracked me up.

Also I am glad they sewed up a situation to keep it from becoming a Sophie situation. (trying not to give a spoiler away).

Michone. One would think that if she was smart enough to use zombies as "escorts" to help keep other zombies off of her that as some point she would have figured out the zombie blood/guts smell on a person would help keep others from realizing she was alive. Not a big thing but just found that curious.

[trickblue]

G O Back and merle calling it a biter gram (think that was what he said)that cracked me up.

Also I am glad they sewed up a situation to keep it from becoming a Sophie situation. (trying not to give a spoiler away).

Michone. One would think that if she was smart enough to use zombies as "escorts" to help keep other zombies off of her that as some point she would have figured out the zombie blood/guts smell on a person would help keep others from realizing she was alive. Not a big thing but just found that curious.

I was wondering why they weren't attacking her... then I figured it was guts in the bucket, or maybe a certain tree sap since she had just been in the trees...

[cowboyeric8]

Very good episode. I can't wait for the throwdown. I just hope we don't lose many more characters, I like most who are in the group now.

[Phoenix]

Very good episode. I can't wait for the throwdown. I just hope we don't lose many more characters, I like most who are in the group now.


Oh, I think it's a safe bet that more characters will be lost...

[Future]

Oh, I think it's a safe bet that more characters will be lost...
If it's anything like the comics...

...in the previews for next week at the end of last nights ep, it looks like things are going to get real ugly between Merle and Michonne. Hopefully not as ugly as the governor and Michonne in the comics.

[Joe Rod]

I was wondering why they weren't attacking her... then I figured it was guts in the bucket, or maybe a certain tree sap since she had just been in the trees...

You ruled out the baby formula? That stuff smells and tastes terrible!

[Yeagermeister]

You ruled out the baby formula? That stuff smells and tastes terrible!

Aren't you a little old for formula? :laugh1:

[Joe Rod]

Aren't you a little old for formula? :laugh1:

:laugh2: That smell will cause me nightmares for many years! Two of our closest friends have little ones of age, so that smell has come back into my life yet again. :blech:

[Doomsday]

Are you sure the phone even works? I am wondering if he is just talking to himself.

[Yeagermeister]

Are you sure the phone even works? I am wondering if he is just talking to himself.

He was talking to himself IMO

[Future]

Are you sure the phone even works? I am wondering if he is just talking to himself.
The fact that he thought he was talking to Lori should be a pretty serious giveaway of what is happening.

[danielofthesaints]

I enjoyed this episode, but they need to work on some of the CGI. Some of it was just flat out horrible, especially When Michonne decapitated the first one in Merle's group.

[Kilyin]

I enjoyed this episode, but they need to work on some of the CGI. Some of it was just flat out horrible, especially When Michonne decapitated the first one in Merle's group.

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff506/kilyin74/MichonneDecapitates_zps840436eb.gif

That is a rather tame decapitation. I guess it was good enough though.

I don't know if posting this violates any 'rules'. It's on primetime network television, etc. If it does, delete it.

[iceberg]

The fact that he thought he was talking to Lori should be a pretty serious giveaway of what is happening.

it was all in his head and his own way to say goodbye. when the old man lifted the phone and didn't hear a dialtone, i imagine he knew what rick was going through. that's why he offered to stay, but left quickly to let rick "grieve".

michonne had zombie guts on her and they couldn't smell her. she noticed that earlier when many walked right by her. it's also why she kept 2 close for so long, order.

and good god, stuck in a closet for what, 2 days? that was pretty weak.

but now, the party is about to get started.

[Kilyin]

it was all in his head and his own way to say goodbye. when the old man lifted the phone and didn't hear a dialtone, i imagine he knew what rick was going through. that's why he offered to stay, but left quickly to let rick "grieve".

michonne had zombie guts on her and they couldn't smell her. she noticed that earlier when many walked right by her. it's also why she kept 2 close for so long, order.

and good god, stuck in a closet for what, 2 days? that was pretty weak.

but now, the party is about to get started.

Thing is, she acted surprised by this, as if it had never occurred to her that their smell may serve as camouflage, while not too long ago she had been dragging two of them around by chains after removing their jaws and arms.

I like the show, and I've read the comics and the Governor novel, so I can overlook it, but that was a definite headscratcher.

[Derekmtl85]

Some very good news for the Comic fans out there....


The Walking Dead Casts Tyreese, The Wire Alum Chad Coleman To Star As Comic Fav

In the graphic novels, Tyreese is introduced in the prison and becomes Rick’s right-hand man after the death of Shane. Not only does he act as the muscle of the group, but in the novels he also is connected with Michonne.

Chad Coleman is best known as Dennis “Cutty” Wise from The Wire. Rumors have been circulating that he landed the huge role after he was scene on location. It is rumored that he will make his first appearance as Tyreese in Episode 8 of this season entitled “Made to Suffer”.

http://tvdonewright.com/2012/11/the-walking-dead-casts-tyreese-the-wire-alum-chad-coleman-to-star-as-comic-fav/

[danielofthesaints]

Some very good news for the Comic fans out there....


The Walking Dead Casts Tyreese, The Wire Alum Chad Coleman To Star As Comic Fav

In the graphic novels, Tyreese is introduced in the prison and becomes Rick’s right-hand man after the death of Shane. Not only does he act as the muscle of the group, but in the novels he also is connected with Michonne.

Chad Coleman is best known as Dennis “Cutty” Wise from The Wire. Rumors have been circulating that he landed the huge role after he was scene on location. It is rumored that he will make his first appearance as Tyreese in Episode 8 of this season entitled “Made to Suffer”.

http://tvdonewright.com/2012/11/the-walking-dead-casts-tyreese-the-wire-alum-chad-coleman-to-star-as-comic-fav/

I'm interested to see how he appears. I thought they already had the muscle with that prisoner, but the more the merrier.

[MichaelWinicki]

Good episode last night... Not one of the best. But good.

We're getting a little different story in the TV version than in the graphic novel.

[Future]

Good episode last night... Not one of the best. But good.

We're getting a little different story in the TV version than in the graphic novel.
I think one of the things they actually do well is incorporate parts of the graphic novel but in a bit different way rather than copying it.

For instance, I'm pretty sure that the governor/Michonne stuff in the comics was replaced by governor/maggie. We still see the same side of the Governor, but in a way that progresses the storyline faster and is far more suitable for a TV audience.

I still hate what they're doing with Michonne, but it looks like they've at least set themselves up for a good finale.

[Yeagermeister]

AMC is killing me with these split seasons. First BB and now TWD. :banghead:

[Derekmtl85]

AMC is killing me with these split seasons. First BB and now TWD. :banghead:

I think they are only stopping the season until after the holiday's, which is normal. That's why it's the "mid-season" finale.

I could be wrong though.

[Yeagermeister]

I think they are only stopping the season until after the holiday's, which is normal. That's why it's the "mid-season" finale.

I could be wrong though.

It will be back in Feb so it's a little longer than just a holiday break but at least it's not a year break.

[Derekmtl85]

It will be back in Feb so it's a little longer than just a holiday break but at least it's not a year break.

Not too bad, still a long wait though. :banghead:

Walking dead in february, Game of Thrones at the end of march....it's going to be a good couple months.

[MegaMagick]

The group is really wearing on me, i think a lot of people need to die soon.

All Daryl is good for is stalking people with knives and shoving a crossbow in people's faces when Rick needs him to, and the whole Maggie and Glenn relationship has always felt sappy and forced. Michonne is also a really terrible character, she's very one dimensional and is always scowling.

I can't think of anyone i really like as a character besides Merle, maybe. I'd like the Governor more as a villain if they developed his character, he's just a mystery to me, i have no idea what motivates him. It's seems like Merle just completely stole the spotlight from his character.

[Howardlittleton64]

The group is really wearing on me, i think a lot of people need to die soon.

All Daryl is good for is stalking people with knives and shoving a crossbow in people's faces when Rick needs him to, and the whole Maggie and Glenn relationship has always felt sappy and forced. Michonne is also a really terrible character, she's very one dimensional and is always scowling.

I can't think of anyone i really like as a character besides Merle, maybe. I'd like the Governor more as a villain if they developed his character, he's just a mystery to me, i have no idea what motivates him. It's seems like Merle just completely stole the spotlight from his character.

Maggie and Glenn follows the comics. Pretty much one of the only story lines that does. I'm not digging the episodes lately it all seems forced. There are some books out now one on the Governor good book, but don't get what makes him the sob he is. I need to get volume 3 of the comics so I can read what they have about him.

[Derekmtl85]

Maggie and Glenn follows the comics. Pretty much one of the only story lines that does. I'm not digging the episodes lately it all seems forced. There are some books out now one on the Governor good book, but don't get what makes him the sob he is. I need to get volume 3 of the comics so I can read what they have about him.

Trust me, once you read the Governor's part in the comics, you'll realize...he's freaking psychotic and creepy, a lot more than in the show. (So far)

[Howardlittleton64]

Trust me, once you read the Governor's part in the comics, you'll realize...he's freaking psychotic and creepy, a lot more than in the show. (So far)

Interesting. Read the new books it is the backstory of the governor. Good book left me a little confused.

[Derekmtl85]

Interesting. Read the new books it is the backstory of the governor. Good book left me a little confused.

I haven't read it yet, thanks for the info i'll be sure to get it soon.

But yes, he's one of my all-time favorite villains (the comic version of him), he's completely crazy, yet he's smart and creepy too. He's a very "dark" character.

[Howardlittleton64]

I haven't read it yet, thanks for the info i'll be sure to get it soon.

But yes, he's one of my all-time favorite villains (the comic version of him), he's completely crazy, yet he's smart and creepy too. He's a very "dark" character.

The second book just came out in October The Road to Woodbury. The first one is The Rise of the Governor.

[mldardy]

AMC is killing me with these split seasons. First BB and now TWD. :banghead:
Why are people so surprised by this. This did this last season. Who cares.

[Joe Rod]

The second book just came out in October The Road to Woodbury. The first one is The Rise of the Governor.

I read the Rise of the Governor a few weeks back. Pretty good book actually. I want to pull the trigger on the next one, but it may have to wait until after the holidays.

[MichaelWinicki]

I read the Rise of the Governor a few weeks back. Pretty good book actually. I want to pull the trigger on the next one, but it may have to wait until after the holidays.

The funny thing is that in the graphic novel there really isn't that much time spent on the governor.

Makes me wonder how many more shows will be based on that "theme".

[MegaMagick]

Black man down!

This show really does have some sort of minority quota, kill a black man just to introduce a new one to take his place.


Also: Damn, all it took was a oganized group of 4 guys to infiltrate and **** **** up in woodbury? I didn't know we were dealing with navy SEALs here.

[MegaMagick]

WOOT, yeah that just happened guys!

make sure to use the hashtag #ima******bag and check out the Talking Dead!

[Lodeus]

WOOT, yeah that just happened guys!

make sure to use the hashtag #ima******bag and check out the Talking Dead!
:laugh2:

:bow:

[MichaelWinicki]

Great, great episode!


Simply wow!

[MegaMagick]

Still can't find a character on this show that i like, the Governor better go full crazy soon, i feel like Carl could walk into Woodbury and whip his behind.

He got owned by Michonne twice, not exactly inspiring fear on my part.

[xout]

Still can't find a character on this show that i like, the Governor better go full crazy soon, i feel like Carl could walk into Woodbury and whip his behind.

He got owned by Michonne twice, not exactly inspiring fear on my part.

I think his evilness is just beginning now.

That said ...

I'm really hoping they do a Rise of the Governor type episode either this season or next. I read the graphic novel and devoting one episode to this storyline would be amazing!

[danielofthesaints]

I think his evilness is just beginning now.

That said ...

I'm really hoping they do a Rise of the Governor type episode either this season or next. I read the graphic novel and devoting one episode to this storyline would be amazing!

What is this rise of the governor entail?

[gambit187]

Did anyone notice how the big black dude (from the wire), acknowledge lil Carl as a man in the world now....I thought that was great

I know its something stupid to point out but still kinda touched me.

[MichaelWinicki]

Did anyone notice how the big black dude (from the wire), acknowledge lil Carl as a man in the world now....I thought that was great

I know its something stupid to point out but still kinda touched me.

I thought it was a good scene also.

There were just so many of those last night.

The one that got me was the look on Andrea's face at the end when they took the hood off of Daryl and the crowd was going nuts wanting to string up both of the brothers.

[zrinkill]

I hate Andre so freaking much.

[gambit187]

I thought it was a good scene also.

There were just so many of those last night.

The one that got me was the look on Andrea's face at the end when they took the hood off of Daryl and the crowd was going nuts wanting to string up both of the brothers.

I cant believe the season is over..
To quote the Great Ron Burgandy...."I'm in a glass case of emotion right now"

[MegaMagick]

I thought it was a good scene also.

There were just so many of those last night.

The one that got me was the look on Andrea's face at the end when they took the hood off of Daryl and the crowd was going nuts wanting to string up both of the brothers.



:laugh2: Yeah, that got me alright...

[zrinkill]

I cant believe the season is over..
To quote the Great Ron Burgandy...."I'm in a glass case of emotion right now"

only for 2 months.

[gambit187]

only for 2 months.

The start of the year is gonna be great (if we make it thank u mayan calendar)
January Spartacus returns to Starz and then Walking Dead in Feb...cant wait

[zrinkill]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/82940364.jpg

[danielofthesaints]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/82940364.jpg

:laugh1:

[a_minimalist]

Killing off Daryl would be such a horrible idea.

I swear George R.R. Martin has made me paranoid when I watch tv shows I like. I'm always afraid the people I like are going to die.

[Derekmtl85]

Killing off Daryl would be such a horrible idea.

I swear George R.R. Martin has made me paranoid when I watch tv shows I like. I'm always afraid the people I like are going to die.

I doubt they kill him off right now, they know he's probably the biggest fan favorite right now + the creator of the comics wants to introduce him into the story.

But then again...maybe that's exactly why they will kill him off. :laugh2:

[a_minimalist]

I doubt they kill him off right now, they know he's probably the biggest fan favorite right now + the creator of the comics wants to introduce him into the story.

But then again...maybe that's exactly why they will kill him off. :laugh2:

Not sure if you are a fan of George R.R. Martin but his logic applies to your last sentence. He's sick! lol

[Derekmtl85]

Not sure if you are a fan of George R.R. Martin but his logic applies to your last sentence. He's sick! lol

I am a HUGE A song Of Ice and Fire fan, so i understand what you mean. :laugh2:

He's has no mercy for people's favorite characters...which i love in his books.

[iceberg]

Killing off Daryl would be such a horrible idea.

I swear George R.R. Martin has made me paranoid when I watch tv shows I like. I'm always afraid the people I like are going to die.

he won't die. if you watch the preview following the episode, i did see daryl.

didn't see merle.

[a_minimalist]

he won't die. if you watch the preview following the episode, i did see daryl.

didn't see merle.

Hope not. I could live with that scenario.

[MichaelWinicki]

he won't die. if you watch the preview following the episode, i did see daryl.

didn't see merle.

Lot's of good stuff in that preview.

It appears someone "smokes" the arena where the towns-folk of Woodbury have gathered. It wouldn't be a stretch to think at least Daryl escapes.

We also see that Andrea goes back to the prison. Where are her loyalties? We'll see. :)

Obviously there's a big dust-up at the prison at some point involving all 3 groups.

[Rackat]

Just watched this episode. Wow! I can't wait to see how Darryl gets away, that should be interesting!

[iceberg]

Just watched this episode. Wow! I can't wait to see how Darryl gets away, that should be interesting!

Its a small town and he finds a phone booth handy.

[MichaelWinicki]

Its a small town and he finds a phone booth handy.

Would it surprise anyone if Daryl actually allowed himself to be captured? Just to see his brother?

May not be that much of a stretch.

[iceberg]

Did anyone notice how the big black dude (from the wire), acknowledge lil Carl as a man in the world now....I thought that was great

I know its something stupid to point out but still kinda touched me.

This was huge.

[Trendnet]

Really enjoying this season so far. Damn midseason break!

My only quibble is that I don't think the show has done a good job of conveying how bad the Governor is (although I think the actor is doing a great job). Or what Michonne's vendatta is against him. Reading the comics I understand, but if I didn't read the comics, I'd have a hard time understanding what's so wrong with the Governor. Other than the zombie heads that is...

[MichaelWinicki]

Really enjoying this season so far. Damn midseason break!

My only quibble is that I don't think the show has done a good job of conveying how bad the Governor is (although I think the actor is doing a great job). Or what Michonne's vendatta is against him. Reading the comics I understand, but if I didn't read the comics, I'd have a hard time understanding what's so wrong with the Governor. Other than the zombie heads that is...

I thought murdering the last survivor from the helicopter crash (and keeping his head) combined with the ambushing of the National Guard unit pretty much colored the governor as a "bad guy".

Michonne knows/knew what he was capable of... She saw the fresh blood on the .50 cal machine gun that one of the National Guardsman was standing by. She knew what went down-- that the guard unit wasn't wiped out by the undead.

The Governor in the comic was more over the top. The one on the TV show, more cunning and sneaky about it, i.e. being evil.

[Trendnet]

I thought murdering the last survivor from the helicopter crash (and keeping his head) combined with the ambushing of the National Guard unit pretty much colored the governor as a "bad guy".

Michonne knows/knew what he was capable of... She saw the fresh blood on the .50 cal machine gun that one of the National Guardsman was standing by. She knew what went down-- that the guard unit wasn't wiped out by the undead.

The Governor in the comic was more over the top. The one on the TV show, more cunning and sneaky about it, i.e. being evil.


Yes, the heads are definately the one sign of his more cunning/evil side, but for the other stuff... is it really that different than what Rick has done?

But I don't see much difference between what the Governor has done as opposed to Rick. Other than the Governor has been far more successful at establishing a safe haven for his group.

The Governor taking down the National Guard any different than Rick quick drawing the two people in the bar? Both were threats to their leadership, and both were eliminated.

And Michonne knowing he is bad is one thing, I don't think the show did enough to establish her hatred for him, and why she decided to camp out at his place to kill him. Solely off the show, what's her motivation for that?

It's just a minor quibble, but I wish the show had established more of Michonne's character and why she hates the Governor.

[Kilyin]

What is this rise of the governor entail?

It's not a graphic novel, those would be the comics. Rise of the Governor is an actual novel, really well done. It's about how the governor and his family/friends dealt with the outbreak early on and came to arrive at Woodbury.

[MichaelWinicki]

Yes, the heads are definately the one sign of his more cunning/evil side, but for the other stuff... is it really that different than what Rick has done?

But I don't see much difference between what the Governor has done as opposed to Rick. Other than the Governor has been far more successful at establishing a safe haven for his group.

The Governor taking down the National Guard any different than Rick quick drawing the two people in the bar? Both were threats to their leadership, and both were eliminated.

And Michonne knowing he is bad is one thing, I don't think the show did enough to establish her hatred for him, and why she decided to camp out at his place to kill him. Solely off the show, what's her motivation for that?

It's just a minor quibble, but I wish the show had established more of Michonne's character and why she hates the Governor.

Huge difference between what Rick did with the two guys and what the governor did with the National Guard unit.

The guys in the bar were in the act of pulling their weapons when Rick shot them. Rick's intent wasn't to kill them from the get-go.

Same thing with the prisoners.

Same thing with Shane.

Rick killed when he felt threatened physically.

The governor fully intended to wipe out the National Guard unit... No prisoners, regardless of how friendly or non-friendly the Guard unit actually was. They were dead. He level of evil was established right there.

I don't think Rick would have killed anyone if they had simply not threatened him.

[03EBZ06]

Noway Rick and Governor are alike. They kill for different reasons. Governor is more on offensive and Rick is more on defensive, last resort to kill undeads, Rick doesn't want to kill undeads until he is certain that undeads has bad intentions against his group. Whereas Governor will kill first in order to get what he want from them, completely different.

[Yeagermeister]

Noway Rick and Governor are alike. They kill for different reasons. Governor is more on offensive and Rick is more on defensive, last resort to kill undeads, Rick doesn't want to kill undeads until he is certain that undeads has bad intentions against his group. Whereas Governor will kill first in order to get what he want from them, completely different.

Except for when his wife dies

[IAMKING]

Well atleast Cutty is still boxing in Walking Dead. He knocked the hell out of a walker last night.

[cowboyeric8]

I went from hating Carl last season. To him being awesome this season.

[Yeagermeister]

I went from hating Carl last season. To him being awesome this season.

At least they know where he is....most of the time :laugh1:

[MichaelWinicki]

Except for when his wife dies

Sorry Yeags but I don't follow...

[iceberg]

Except for when his wife dies

He did go on a rampage

[punchnjudy]

Looks like Merle also escapes the coliseum with Daryl. Glenn's reaction in the video gives it away. Probably also why carl tells him to stop being the leader and Hershel yells at him.

I expect Daryl to eventually shoot his brother in the face, but I hope they don't drag that part out too long. We already had the Rick/Shane thing last season.

I hope they don't go the "Merle is a plant for the governor" route...that would be too simplistic imo. However, it would at least give Daryl enough of a reason to end it once and for all.

[Faerluna]

Well atleast Cutty is still boxing in Walking Dead. He knocked the hell out of a walker last night.

:laugh2:

I went from hating Carl last season. To him being awesome this season.

Same! He's a lot easier to like now that he's been forced to take his actions seriously and not do dumb things. Obviously not the best circumstances for a boy to become a man, but well done, kid.

[Yeagermeister]

Sorry Yeags but I don't follow...

Rick went on the offense after Lori died

[MichaelWinicki]

He did go on a rampage

OK, yes he did, but he killed (or re-killed) the walking dead.

[MichaelWinicki]

Rick went on the offense after Lori died

That's true, but he wasn't knocking off the living.

[Phoenix]

James Poniewozik ‏@poniewozik (https://twitter.com/poniewozik) WALKING DEAD picked up for s4, but Glen Mazzara leaving bc creative diffs w AMC over series direction. Lotta showrunner loss for a hit show
Retweeted by Kevin Turner (https://twitter.com/KT1310)

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/21/the-walking-dead-renewed-for-season-four-departure-of-glen-mazzara/162720/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

[Yeagermeister]

James Poniewozik ‏@poniewozik (https://twitter.com/poniewozik) WALKING DEAD picked up for s4, but Glen Mazzara leaving bc creative diffs w AMC over series direction. Lotta showrunner loss for a hit show
Retweeted by Kevin Turner (https://twitter.com/KT1310)

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/21/the-walking-dead-renewed-for-season-four-departure-of-glen-mazzara/162720/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

That's not a good sign

[Rack Bauer]

James Poniewozik ‏@poniewozik (https://twitter.com/poniewozik) WALKING DEAD picked up for s4, but Glen Mazzara leaving bc creative diffs w AMC over series direction. Lotta showrunner loss for a hit show
Retweeted by Kevin Turner (https://twitter.com/KT1310)

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/21/the-walking-dead-renewed-for-season-four-departure-of-glen-mazzara/162720/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

THis sucks so freaking bad. :(

[MichaelWinicki]

THis sucks so freaking bad. :(

Well there were those folks that thought the series would go into the crapper when Frank Darabont left– So I'm not going to pass judgement.

I do think that AMC is watching the cost of the series like a hawk. It appears to be an expensive series to do because of all the elaborate sets and the number of characters involved. AMC may not be able to generate the ad revenue from it like a network (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) show.

[Rack Bauer]

It's BAAAAACKKK!!