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WoodysGirl
10-29-2012, 02:23 PM
Bryan Broaddus
Football Analyst/Scout
Thoughts from the film room at Valley Ranch:
• When you have faith in your quarterback, you allow him to make decisions that can directly impact the outcome of the game. With the Cowboys facing a third-and-1 from the Giants 19-yard line, head coach Jason Garrett was in a situation where he had an opportunity to allow his quarterback to call a running play or check out of the situation on the look and throw the ball to try and get the first down.
Pre-snap, the Giants gave Romo six in the box with safety Stevie Brown cheating inside of tight end Jason Wittenhttp://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/roster/jason-witten/0597e391-ded8-4e9e-9eaf-51c4b5d5b6d6/), but still deep enough. With Witten inline, the Cowboys had the ability to get a hat on a hat and have things blocked.
With Romo looking at Brown and where he was playing in coverage on Witten, he decided to bring wide receiver Kevin Ogletreehttp://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/roster/kevin-ogletree/09dab7b9-6261-4501-9628-7ad126f89ec1/) down inside a couple of steps and try to work him on the fade up the right sideline against cornerback Prince Amukamara one-on-one. At the snap, Ogletree was able to get up the field on Amukamara, who had to extend his arm to try and hold off Ogletree. Romo was correct that Brown wasn’t going to be helping on the route because he was doubling Witten.
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Kangaroo
10-29-2012, 03:23 PM
I figured Romo checked out of the run and forced it deep going for the big play instead of getting the first down.
Oh_Canada
10-29-2012, 05:18 PM
I figured Romo checked out of the run and forced it deep going for the big play instead of getting the first down.
Yup, the guy has no patience. Even if successful, he leaves the two-time Super Bowl champion QB known for his clutch play well over a minute to put his team in field goal range.
Future
10-29-2012, 06:58 PM
Not to sidetrack...but I was watching the game with no volume. Was there any explanation as to why the flag was picked up? It looked a little bit ticky tack, but the DB seemed to have OTree's arm pinned.
casmith07
10-29-2012, 08:12 PM
Not to sidetrack...but I was watching the game with no volume. Was there any explanation as to why the flag was picked up? It looked a little bit ticky tack, but the DB seemed to have OTree's arm pinned.
"There was no foul on the play for pass interference. 4th Down."
That's the explanation.
Future
10-29-2012, 09:02 PM
"There was no foul on the play for pass interference. 4th Down."
That's the explanation.
oi vey...:bang2:
TwentyOne
10-30-2012, 10:55 AM
When you have faith in your quarterback, you allow him to make decisions that can directly impact the outcome of the game. With the Cowboys facing a third-and-1 from the Giants 19-yard line, head coach Jason Garrett was in a situation where he had an opportunity to allow his quarterback to call a running play or check out of the situation on the look and throw the ball to try and get the first down.
Pre-snap, the Giants gave Romo six in the box with safety Stevie Brown cheating inside of tight end Jason Witten (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/roster/jason-witten/0597e391-ded8-4e9e-9eaf-51c4b5d5b6d6/)[/URL][URL="http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif"]http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif), but still deep enough. With Witten inline, the Cowboys had the ability to get a hat on a hat and have things blocked.
With Romo looking at Brown and where he was playing in coverage on Witten, he decided to bring wide receiver Kevin Ogletree (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/roster/kevin-ogletree/09dab7b9-6261-4501-9628-7ad126f89ec1/)http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif) down inside a couple of steps and try to work him on the fade up the right sideline against cornerback Prince Amukamara one-on-one. At the snap, Ogletree was able to get up the field on Amukamara, who had to extend his arm to try and hold off Ogletree. Romo was correct that Brown wasn’t going to be helping on the route because he was doubling Witten.
That was one of the baddest decissions i've ever seen. I was shaking my head for minutes just because i could not believe what i just saw.
AdamJT13
10-30-2012, 01:52 PM
When you have faith in your quarterback ...
But wait, Garrett "doesn't trust Romo," right?
Doomsday101
10-30-2012, 01:54 PM
But wait, Garrett "doesn't trust Romo," right?
Depends on which week you are talking about. :laugh2:
28 Joker
10-30-2012, 07:01 PM
Bryan Broaddus
Football Analyst/Scout
Thoughts from the film room at Valley Ranch:
• When you have faith in your quarterback, you allow him to make decisions that can directly impact the outcome of the game. With the Cowboys facing a third-and-1 from the Giants 19-yard line, head coach Jason Garrett was in a situation where he had an opportunity to allow his quarterback to call a running play or check out of the situation on the look and throw the ball to try and get the first down.
Jason Garrett should be held accountable for allowing Tony Romo to make such a poor decision. Garrett's overconfidence in Tony Romo's ability has always been one of his weaknesses, and it continues to cost the Cowboys critical games. The inconsistent Jason Garrett has produced an inconsistent, turnover prone quarterback. Both Garrett and Romo have been consistently inconsistent. How is an inconsistent quarterback supposed to play consistently when he has an inconsistent head coach/offensive coordinator/play caller? They have been together for 6 years, and they are joined at the hip, imo. I think Romo could have turned out to be a better player if he had some solid, experienced, disciplined coaching. Dallas' identity on offense has been inconsistent under Jason Garrett, too.
Bryan Broaddus
Football Analyst/Scout
Pre-snap, the Giants gave Romo six in the box with safety Stevie Brown cheating inside of tight end Jason Witten (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/roster/jason-witten/0597e391-ded8-4e9e-9eaf-51c4b5d5b6d6/)[/URL][URL="http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif"]http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.dallascowboys.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif), but still deep enough. With Witten inline, the Cowboys had the ability to get a hat on a hat and have things blocked.
It is unforgivable for Romo to check out of that running play and throw a low percentage end-zone fade. Yes, Felix Jones faced an 8 or 9 man front for most of the game, and the run blocking was putrid. There wasn't nearly enough push, guys were getting pushed back, blocks were not being secured or maintained, guys were getting turned lose, linebackers were running free.... However, listening to Romo's and Garrett's excuse for not running the football in that situation of the game (to pick up 1 blasted yard) is unacceptable. Reset the blasted downs and then take your shots. Teams had been running on the Giants left side, and teams had been running on the Giants. Felix Jones scored a 4 yard TD on the goal-line. You could have spread them out and run it, or you could have shifted your best player (Tyron Smith) to the right side and run Felix Jones behind him. Three timeouts...
Simply embarrassing to watch as a football fan... However, it isn't a surprise to see. This stuff has been going on for a long time. I know 2008 Pittsburgh is just one prime example.
Question 1: (Not that it will matter...)
Wasn't Bill Callahan brought here to hold Garrett's hand on some of the game management/clock management "issues"? Where is he?
Question 2:
Are the Cowboys going to move Bernadeau to center and play Dockery at RG or bring in Holland? They don't have many options now. I would like to see more of James Hannah as a blocking option in the running game, too. They clearly miss Phil Costa and Martellus Bennett in the running game. It is really hurting the running backs; and no, I'm not talking about the almighty Tanner and Dunbar. Holland could have been the best option at guard in that situation; however, the team didn't want to pay him. Livings is a stalemate run blocker. Cook is a true "backup" and not a strong run blocker. Bernadeau was a true "backup" at Carolina. Doug Free isn't very strong at RT. Tyron Smith is an elite run blocker, but he can't block 8 or 9 guys by himself. That's a bad mix to run the football, especially against 8 and 9 man fronts. Teams were running on Carolina and the Giants, and the Cowboys couldn't block them. Period.
By the way, Felix Jones' most explosive plays have come against heavily stacked, crowded fronts. Hudson Houck took Felix Jones and destroyed Washington's heavily stacked, crowded 9 and 10 man fronts. By they way, he did it by running the same blasted counter run (Bend). Where are the counters to Felix Jones?
If the Cowboys don't start blocking for the running backs, they will not even make it to 8-8.
Rack Bauer
10-30-2012, 07:12 PM
Yes, Felix Jones faced an 8 or 9 man front for most of the game
No, he didn't. Maybe once or twice, but sure as hell not "most of the game".
And although the cowboys were facing a 6 man front on that play, they weren't in 21 or 12 personnel, they were in 11. So the giants matched up. If the safety drops in the box we're now outnumbered.
IMO, we should have ran anyway even if they did drop the safety down. If you can't get a yard you don't deserve to win.
28 Joker
10-30-2012, 07:38 PM
No, he didn't. Maybe once or twice, but sure as hell not "most of the game".
And although the cowboys were facing a 6 man front on that play, they weren't in 21 or 12 personnel, they were in 11. So the giants matched up. If the safety drops in the box we're now outnumbered.
IMO, we should have ran anyway even if they did drop the safety down. If you can't get a yard you don't deserve to win.
You don't know what you are talking about. I went back and watched every run Dallas had. Go back and look at it. The Giants played a 9 man front twice against Jones, and they walked the safety into the box (late) some. Also, New York showed an early 8 man front, too. They stacked the box on Jones plenty of times. I didn't record the number, but it sure wasn't "twice". It was a significant number of runs, and Garrett stated this fact.
Again, Felix Jones scored a 4 yard TD on the goal-line when everyone was stacked in there and knew what was coming. There is no excuse for not running the football in that situation. You needed 1 yard to reset the downs, and they had 6 in the box.
28 Joker
10-30-2012, 07:53 PM
If anyone goes back and looks at the offense, you will see Jason Pierre-Paul put a nasty spin move on Tyron Smith.
However, Smith counters with his own counter-clockwise spin move and shocks Pierre-Paul into a stone-cold statue. Smith is in a perfect position to block him. Pierre-Paul just stands there (frozen) and looks shocked.
That was amazing.
Rack Bauer
10-30-2012, 09:03 PM
You don't know what you are talking about. I went back and watched every run Dallas had. Go back and look at it. The Giants played a 9 man front twice against Jones, and they walked the safety into the box (late) some. Also, New York showed an early 8 man front, too. They stacked the box on Jones plenty of times. I didn't record the number, but it sure wasn't "twice". It was a significant number of runs, and Garrett stated this fact.
Again, Felix Jones scored a 4 yard TD on the goal-line when everyone was stacked in there and knew what was coming. There is no excuse for not running the football in that situation. You needed 1 yard to reset the downs, and they had 6 in the box.
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