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Kilyin
11-04-2012, 11:04 PM
Thought provoking stuff here. Makes you wonder how we lost.

Princeton smart, football stupid.

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stiletto
11-04-2012, 11:06 PM
He is just not a very good coach.. The team looks disinterested and happy to be wearing the star. Not accountable to anyone especially a coach. It's a sad state of affairs right now.

Joe Realist
11-04-2012, 11:09 PM
the pressure is mounting for Red. You can see it on his face..

Joshmil53
11-04-2012, 11:10 PM
He was so nervous in the PC.

Kilyin
11-04-2012, 11:14 PM
You guys think he looks nervous? Looks like the same ole Garrett to me. The same Garrett that has no fear of ever losing his job. He was handpicked to be the Head Coach here years before he was officially given the title. Most coaches know they're coaching for their jobs, but not Carrothead. He's as complacent and docile as they come.

Dave_in-NC
11-04-2012, 11:17 PM
Idiot.

theebs
11-04-2012, 11:27 PM
Sad.

Just listening to him is sad at this point. He doesn't know what he is doing and he is responsible for everything.

Its basically nuts.

Its Just sad. Romo made garrett and now garrett is holding back the offense and the whole team in romo's critical years.

Its terrible we are stuck with the jones and the garrett families for years to come.

Lonestar94
11-04-2012, 11:31 PM
I could only last 30 seconds listening to this joker.

Kilyin
11-04-2012, 11:33 PM
I could only last 30 seconds listening to this joker.

Put those 30 seconds on loop for awhile, you're there.

davidyee
11-04-2012, 11:33 PM
...excellent command of the news conference.

He never really give much detail or squarely answered any of the questions thrown his way.

It's almost as if the media is lulled to sleep around him. Some Jedi mind trick thing going on here.

Kilyin
11-04-2012, 11:36 PM
One of those sneaky mods changed the title from Opie's PostGame Press Conference. That's okay, he's still Opie to me.

McLovin
11-04-2012, 11:40 PM
I understand why he approaches the news conferences like he does, but that act really doesn't win fans when you are losing and your unit is the PRIME reason.

God I hope he gets canned....but he wont

Dave_in-NC
11-04-2012, 11:42 PM
Sad.

Just listening to him is sad at this point. He doesn't know what he is doing and he is responsible for everything.

Its basically nuts.

Its Just sad. Romo made garrett and now garrett is holding back the offense and the whole team in romo's critical years.

Its terrible we are stuck with the jones and the garrett families for years to come.

Truth Theebs. Really sad.

Idgit
11-05-2012, 12:02 AM
He handled that pretty well. I was expecting him to actually be confused or look flustered by the descriptions here.

Kilyin
11-05-2012, 12:06 AM
He handled that pretty well. I was expecting him to actually be confused or look flustered by the descriptions here.

You should work for Jerry. If Garrett or his staff had any accountability, there might be an opening.

Idgit
11-05-2012, 12:15 AM
You should work for Jerry. If Garrett or his staff had any accountability, there might be an opening.

You can still be mad about play calling, or whatever it is you're mad about tonight, and think that Jason Garrett handled that press conference well. It won't mean that you have to stop being mad about the other stuff.

It'll all be ok in the morning. ATL is just a better team than we are. We played a good game, but aren't good enough to beat them at home right now. I can live with that ok without having to resort to anybody being a moron or an idiot.

Little Jr
11-05-2012, 12:26 AM
You can still be mad about play calling, or whatever it is you're mad about tonight, and think that Jason Garrett handled that press conference well. It won't mean that you have to stop being mad about the other stuff.

It'll all be ok in the morning. ATL is just a better team than we are. We played a good game, but aren't good enough to beat them at home right now. I can live with that ok without having to resort to anybody being a moron or an idiot.

We played a good game? 13 pts is a good game? I guess some peopl standards are lower than others

silver
11-05-2012, 12:32 AM
You can still be mad about play calling, or whatever it is you're mad about tonight, and think that Jason Garrett handled that press conference well. It won't mean that you have to stop being mad about the other stuff.

It'll all be ok in the morning. ATL is just a better team than we are. We played a good game, but aren't good enough to beat them at home right now. I can live with that ok without having to resort to anybody being a moron or an idiot.

C'mon man

Idgit
11-05-2012, 12:43 AM
We played a good game? 13 pts is a good game? I guess some peopl standards are lower than others

We didn't shoot ourselves in the foot, at least. And we were in position to win again on the final drive against a team that's undefeated, rarely loses at home over the last three seasons, and that doesn't turn the ball over or make mental mistakes or penalties. That's about all you could hope for from your 3-4 Cowboys coming in.

C'mon man

C'mon, what? I know we all want to think we're contenders every year, but it turns out we might not be good enough right now. We're certainly not good enough to beat the Falcons at home.

What kills people is that we've been in each of the last three games in the final drive, and we've been unable to pull it out. I get why that's frustrating, but maybe it doesn't mean we're just chokers. Maybe it actually means we're close, but not quite as good as these last three teams right now. Maybe we get better later in the year, maybe we don't and we need to fill a few roster holes in the off season. But it's nothing to throw ourselves into traffic over. These are three elite teams we're talking about, and two of them were road games in very difficult road stadiums. Sometimes there's something to be said for moderating expectations. And, no, this doesn't mean I have low standards. It means I'm.....wait for it....the one who's actually the realist in this case.

sacase
11-05-2012, 01:09 AM
He's a walking Cliche'. Get rid of him. Blind man can see he sucks badly, he has no business coaching a NFL team. He is on the same level as Jim Zorn.

TheCoolFan
11-05-2012, 01:47 AM
2:30 to 2:45 is why he probably will never be hired as an offensive coordinator in the NFL again and it pretty much explains Garrett's lack of creativity as a playcaller and how he tends to lose chess matches.

ConstantReboot
11-05-2012, 01:56 AM
Im sick and tired of people saying that we played a good game. As you can tell by watching the game we can just about beat anyone with the talent that we have on this team. The only thing that separates us from Atlanta is coaching. They are well coached team compared to our team and it showed today. Their defense isn't top notch and its a shame we can't put more than 20 points on the board.

Keep in mind the only time we marched down the field and scored a TD was when Romo went with a no huddle offense and basically did what he does best. If we let this offense do what it does best than we should win more games this year. Garrett is holding this team back with his playcalling.

Nexx
11-05-2012, 02:29 AM
Sad.

Just listening to him is sad at this point. He doesn't know what he is doing and he is responsible for everything.

Its basically nuts.

Its Just sad. Romo made garrett and now garrett is holding back the offense and the whole team in romo's critical years.

Its terrible we are stuck with the jones and the garrett families for years to come.

romo and sparano made garrett

dexternjack
11-05-2012, 03:36 AM
We didn't shoot ourselves in the foot, at least. And we were in position to win again on the final drive against a team that's undefeated, rarely loses at home over the last three seasons, and that doesn't turn the ball over or make mental mistakes or penalties. That's about all you could hope for from your 3-4 Cowboys coming in.

OK, so we didn't turn the ball over, but.......we were in position to beat them having to drive the length of the field for a TD with no TO's and less than 30 seconds??

If we had any kind of offense at all, we win this game, plain and simple. It should have not come down to that final drive at all. The offense dropped the ball all night and the defense folded in the 4th qtr.

Like in the past few years, we had the talent to win but bad coaching and untimely mistakes cost us again and again.

Doomsay
11-05-2012, 06:16 AM
The same Garrett that has no fear of ever losing his job. He was handpicked to be the Head Coach here years before he was officially given the title. Most coaches know they're coaching for their jobs, but not Carrothead. He's as complacent and docile as they come.

/thread......../team

birdwells1
11-05-2012, 06:23 AM
...excellent command of the news conference.

He never really give much detail or squarely answered any of the questions thrown his way.

It's almost as if the media is lulled to sleep around him. Some Jedi mind trick thing going on here.

Yeah, you remember back in the 2010 season when he took over, everyone bragged about how he had a command of the press conference and wouldn't give the media anything? Just how many wins has that translated to? :lmao:

visionary
11-05-2012, 07:30 AM
You should work for Jerry. If Garrett or his staff had any accountability, there might be an opening.

he already does

there is no other explanation for the obtuse excuse-making in his posts

in another thread, he actually posted "i like the path we are on" (i am paraphrasing)

you cant pay for this sort of blind worship

visionary
11-05-2012, 07:31 AM
Sad.

Just listening to him is sad at this point. He doesn't know what he is doing and he is responsible for everything.

Its basically nuts.

Its Just sad. Romo made garrett and now garrett is holding back the offense and the whole team in romo's critical years.

Its terrible we are stuck with the jones and the garrett families for years to come.

100% accurate

Cowboy_Shawn
11-05-2012, 07:31 AM
Yeah, you remember back in the 2010 season when he took over, everyone bragged about how he had a command of the press conference and wouldn't give the media anything? Just how many wins has that translated to? :lmao:

Well back then there was reason to be optimistic. After he took over for Wade Phillips the team pulled it together and finished the second half of the season on a high note.

Sadly that was the high point in Garrett's career as he's done nothing but disappoint since removing the interim label from his title. The team has regressed and it doesn't appear that he has the slightest idea how to turn things around.

silver
11-05-2012, 08:24 AM
Maybe it actually means we're close, but not quite as good as these last three teams right now. Maybe we get better later in the year, maybe we don't and we need to fill a few roster holes in the off season. But it's nothing to throw ourselves into traffic over. These are three elite teams we're talking about, and two of them were road games in very difficult road stadiums. Sometimes there's something to be said for moderating expectations. And, no, this doesn't mean I have low standards. It means I'm.....wait for it....the one who's actually the realist in this case.

Maybe it means we suck. Maybe it means we didnt do enough this offseason. Maybe it means our headcoach is not up to standard. Who cares if he handles the presses well? Mediocre GM + mediocre HC + mediocre talent = mediocre results. Actually mediocre is being generous.

Idgit
11-05-2012, 09:46 AM
Maybe it means we suck. Maybe it means we didnt do enough this offseason. Maybe it means our headcoach is not up to standard. Who cares if he handles the presses well? Mediocre GM + mediocre HC + mediocre talent = mediocre results. Actually mediocre is being generous.

Well, it *is* a thread about his press conference. And my post was in relation to other posts who said he looked lost or clueless and looked like he was going to crack....

CIWhitefish
11-05-2012, 10:00 AM
Well, it *is* a thread about his press conference. And my post was in relation to other posts who said he looked lost or clueless and looked like he was going to crack....

I agree he didn't look lost or clueless. If you hate Garrett right now tho I'm sure hearing the same answers he gives after every loss...proud of how we battled...hats off to _"insert team"___...we have to get better and learn from this..would be completely frustrating. It would be nice to once hear him say that we just are not making enough plays to consistently win right now and that's on us as a coaching staff to get right. But that is a style thing.

fairviewfarmer
11-05-2012, 10:03 AM
You guys think he looks nervous? Looks like the same ole Garrett to me. The same Garrett that has no fear of ever losing his job. He was handpicked to be the Head Coach here years before he was officially given the title. Most coaches know they're coaching for their jobs, but not Carrothead. He's as complacent and docile as they come.
"carrothead" :laugh2: sorry, I know I've heard him called that before but it just seemed funnier this morning..Thanks! :)

Hoov
11-05-2012, 10:09 AM
Well, it *is* a thread about his press conference. And my post was in relation to other posts who said he looked lost or clueless and looked like he was going to crack....I agree, he didnt look lost or clueless at all. He didnt look upset either, he looked like he was proud that his team "played hard" as he put it and gave a fight to a superior team.

And watching the conference had me thinking that he expected this year to be a rebuilding year all along and that we are right on schedule - or right on his schedule - of where he would like the team to be. Maybe he had discuseed this with Jerry prior to the season and they decided they were going to draft and develop young talent and take their lumps this year and that may be why there were no BIG free agent signings for OLine, WR, or safety.

And they certainly are strugling with the 3rd wr spot, the OLine and could use better play at safety - but they do have several young wr that may emerge next year, they have some young OLinemen that are not playing because of injury and they lost Church plus Matt Johnson never got healthy at safety.

All this and Jerry Jones consistent support of Garrett leads me to beleive that the organization has decided to get younger and draft and develop players knowing that its going to be a process and that this year would have its struggles.

But Garrett talks about this team the way a coach would talk about a team with a young qb or a team that is starting a lot of rookies and is in a rebuilding phase where chracter, learning and playing hard is the goal for this year and winning is secondary and will come with time as they develop the players they have. How eles can you explain his press conferences ???

Idgit
11-05-2012, 10:10 AM
I agree he didn't look lost or clueless. If you hate Garrett right now tho I'm sure hearing the same answers he gives after every loss...proud of how we battled...hats off to _"insert team"___...we have to get better and learn from this..would be completely frustrating. It would be nice to once hear him say that we just are not making enough plays to consistently win right now and that's on us as a coaching staff to get right. But that is a style thing.

Yep, I think this is it, exactly.

Personally, I like him giving the press nothing. I'm much more concerned about the team playing better than it has. But, yeah, I get people being annoyed with Garrett in general right now. I just didn't think he sounded confused at all. He's pretty much staying the course.

I actually think we've been playing better in each of the last three weeks, though, and it's just that we're getting beat by better teams right now. I may well be wrong, and it'll show as we roll into the easy stretch of the schedule.

a_minimalist
11-05-2012, 10:12 AM
The Cowboys might have the dumbest fan base in all of the NFL. Just saying.

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PAINFROMUKRAINE
11-05-2012, 10:15 AM
Thought provoking stuff here. Makes you wonder how we lost.

Princeton smart, football stupid.

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Kilyin,

I have be saying this about Garrett for years "Princeton Smart - Football Stupid". Thank you for reconfirming the obvious.

Chocolate Lab
11-05-2012, 11:03 AM
You guys think he looks nervous? Looks like the same ole Garrett to me. The same Garrett that has no fear of ever losing his job. He was handpicked to be the Head Coach here years before he was officially given the title. Most coaches know they're coaching for their jobs, but not Carrothead. He's as complacent and docile as they come.

That was true for years, and it was always one of the most irritating things about the situation to me. He didn't do anything to earn the job other than be Jerry's boy, and Jim Garrett's boy, and as OC he was almost in a no-lose situation. He got credit when all the weapons on offense worked, but when things didn't work, Wade got all the blame. When the offense underperformed, he hid in the shadows while his media buddies in town fed all those silly excuses that Phillips didn't hit enough, was too soft, didn't know how to practice, blah blah blah and Garrett secretly hated it but respected the chain of command so much he'd never ask to change things. What a great guy!

Now that all that has been exposed, I suspect Garrett is really confused. He got the usual interim head coach bump and probably thought it was all due to his brilliance. But now he's a sub-.500 HC with a mistake-prone, underperforming team and he's failing and getting a lot of heat for probably the first time in his entire life. He probably knows his looped cliches aren't working, so what does he do now? Robots simply aren't very inspiring.

Too bad he didn't go through these growing pains, or simply the unveiling of his lack of talent as a top coach, in college or at some lesser NFL stop. That's the way it should be -- most coaches have to Darwinistically fight their way to the top against hundreds of competitors to reach the highest level of their profession. But that's not the way it is in Jerry's bizarro world.

MoClaiborne24
11-05-2012, 11:11 AM
Thought provoking stuff here. Makes you wonder how we lost.

Princeton smart, football stupid.

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Same crap, different game. I bet you could transpose his press conferences on top of each other and it would sound the exact same.

visionary
11-05-2012, 11:23 AM
That was true for years, and it was always one of the most irritating things about the situation to me. He didn't do anything to earn the job other than be Jerry's boy, and Jim Garrett's boy, and as OC he was almost in a no-lose situation. He got credit when all the weapons on offense worked, but when things didn't work, Wade got all the blame. When the offense underperformed, he hid in the shadows while his media buddies in town fed all those silly excuses that Phillips didn't hit enough, was too soft, didn't know how to practice, blah blah blah and Garrett secretly hated it but respected the chain of command so much he'd never ask to change things. What a great guy!

Now that all that has been exposed, I suspect Garrett is really confused. He got the usual interim head coach bump and probably thought it was all due to his brilliance. But now he's a sub-.500 HC with a mistake-prone, underperforming team and he's failing and getting a lot of heat for probably the first time in his entire life. He probably knows his looped cliches aren't working, so what does he do now? Robots simply aren't very inspiring.

Too bad he didn't go through these growing pains, or simply the unveiling of his lack of talent as a top coach, in college or at some lesser NFL stop. That's the way it should be -- most coaches have to Darwinistically fight their way to the top against hundreds of competitors to reach the highest level of their profession. But that's not the way it is in Jerry's bizarro world.

quoted for truth

DragonCowboy
11-05-2012, 12:45 PM
The Cowboys might have the dumbest fan base in all of the NFL. Just saying.

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"If you don't like Jason Garrett, you're the reason why the Cowboys fan base is the dumbest"

- the "smart" Cowboys fans

a_minimalist
11-05-2012, 12:50 PM
"If you don't like Jason Garrett, you're the reason why the Cowboys fan base is the dumbest"

- the "smart" Cowboys fans

You must be their leader

DragonCowboy
11-05-2012, 12:54 PM
You must be their leader

man you're so smart.


It's pretty hilarious. All Garrett supporters have left is "you're stupid".

a_minimalist
11-05-2012, 12:59 PM
man you're so smart.


It's pretty hilarious. All Garrett supporters have left is "you're stupid".

Oh yeah, you're the leader. :lmao2:

DragonCowboy
11-05-2012, 01:07 PM
Oh yeah, you're the leader. :lmao2:

Great post, would read again.

Zimmy Lives
11-05-2012, 01:22 PM
man you're so smart.


It's pretty hilarious. All Garrett supporters have left is "you're stupid".

What Gus is trying to say is calling for Garrett's head is great but it is short-sighted. Gus thinks that Garrett has made mistakes but firing him will not solve anything. Gus knows that firing Garrett will only give the fans temporary satisfaction because they will be calling for another coach in two more years. Gus believes that continuity and better talent is what this team needs. Just ask Barry, Campo, Gailey, The Tuna, Wade, and Redball.

kmp77
11-05-2012, 01:38 PM
All Garrett supporters have left is "you're stupid".

Exactly. The debate is over when one side can only offer a personal insult.

DragonCowboy
11-05-2012, 01:42 PM
What Gus is trying to say is calling for Garrett's head is great but it is short-sighted. Gus thinks that Garrett has made mistakes but firing him will not solve anything. Gus knows that firing Garrett will only give the fans temporary satisfaction because they will be calling for another coach in two more years. Gus believes that continuity and better talent is what this team needs. Just ask Barry, Campo, Gailey, The Tuna, Wade, and Redball.

Maybe Gus should've said this himself instead of slinging around insults?

Maybe that would've made more sense? Maybe if he said what you said it would've been received a little better?

a_minimalist
11-05-2012, 03:17 PM
Exactly. The debate is over when one side can only offer a personal insult.

Exactly!