Saints Fans In NOLA Are Freaking Out - Something Nobody Is Considering

[houstonwhodat]

Hi All,

Saints fan here.

I have been reading your other thread about the Sean Payton situation and whether or not SP would leave NOLA and sign with the Cowboys.

Over on the Saints' boards many fans are freaking out about this. While no one wants to admit it in the back of their minds they know that this is a good move for SP.

The main arguments of why SP would stay in NOLA are 1) The bounties didn't happen and SP will take this personal upon his return, 2) He is loyal to the Saints, 3) He has Drew Brees and Drew just signed a major deal.

While all of the above is true, here is something nobody is considering or talking about.

If Sean Payton had a clause in his contract to void it if something happened to Mickey Loomis, then does Drew Brees have a clause that would void his contract if something happened to Sean Payton? No one knows the details of Drew's contract other than the money involved.

This is a nightmare scenario for the Saints and a possible best case scenario for the Cowboys.

You could end up with Sean Payton, Drew Brees AND Mickey Loomis if Jerrah finally decided he wanted to win again. The Cowboys would probably have 8 prime time games next year.

I don't think it would happen but this has been an extremely crazy year in the NFL and for the Saints.

I don't discount anything anymore.

[Chocolate Lab]

Uh, no. If the league office wouldn't allow Payton to void his contract because the GM was fired, they sure won't allow a player to void his contract because his coach leaves.

[jday]

Breath easy neighbor. There is no way Jerry Jones pulls up stakes on Garrett at this point. Garrett has at least 1 more year to right the ship.

[DragonCowboy]

LOL what is this

[mickswag]

Uh, no. If the league office wouldn't allow Payton to void his contract because the GM was fired, they sure won't allow a player to void his contract because his coach leaves.

This ^. No way the league would let that happen. It would set a bad precedent.

[StarBoyz83]

Jg will be coach for 5 years win or lose. But with him we lose

[BoysFan4ever]

I can't imagine the NFL allowing players to have contracts that say a contract is void if such & such coach is fired.

The more I read about Payton the more I think he will stay put in NO.

The Jerry sideshow is just too much.

[joseephuss]

Why would anyone sign Mickey Loomis to be GM?

[houstonwhodat]

Package deal? IDK.

[AmishCowboy]

Breath easy neighbor. There is no way Jerry Jones pulls up stakes on Garrett at this point. Garrett has at least 1 more year to right the ship. Would love Sean, but this is a true statement

[kristie]

we'll see. stranger things have happened.

[Seven]

Unbelieveable............like wild fire.

[ufcrules1]

Wow.. could you imagine a real coach and real QB here? I would love to have Drew Brees here.

[erod]

Too much money and too much forfeiture of control.

Jerry will never do it.

[perrykemp]

Too much money and too much forfeiture of control.

Jerry will never do it.

Payton is a control freak. I just see how that fits into Jerry's way of doing things.

[Zimmy Lives]

Less coffee and a clearer mind are in order. Rest easy, Payton wants to be in NOLA and NOLA wants him back.

[Marktui]

Glazer reported that the Siants and Peyton knew this would happen a while back. Peyton has every intention of going back to NO after his suspension is over.

Glazer and Peyton are suppose to be real good friends and is believed to be very accurate.

[Zimmy Lives]

Glazer reported that the Siants and Peyton knew this would happen a while back. Peyton has every intention of going back to NO after his suspension is over.

Glazer and Peyton are suppose to be real good friends and is believed to be very accurate.

I have heard this as well. No reason to fret if you are a Saints fan.

[BoysFan4ever]

As a Cowboys fan I have already rationalized this all out.

If we get Sean I will say we just hired a great HC & maybe he can give us fans some hope.

If he goes back to NO I will just say who would want a coach that operates on a bounty system.

[CCBoy]

First off, Sean Payton rode to fame on the backs of fans in New Orleans that just wouldn't give up, no matter what. I don't see him losing his own heart for prospects of money and more fame. That is already his.

[perrykemp]

I may be in the minority on this, however, I find Payton to be a very unlikable dude. He's an egomaniac of the 1st degree, has operated in a manner that demonstrates that he believes he and his teams "above" the established rules, and, more than anything comes across as fairly dishonorable.

Beyond the big things, seeing him run up the score on various opponents, continue to send offensive guys like Brees out late in games that are already decided to juice their stats and/or go to extreme measures to have his guys break NFL records all strike me as strong signs that isn't the kind of coach the Cowboys need or deserve.

[Hook'em#11]

My friend is a long time Saints fan.

He told me last night that if Dallas gets Payton, he will burn down Cowboys Stadium, Jerry's home and cause severe pain and torture to Jones..


I asked him. Why wait? hehehehee

[Joe Realist]

It won't happen. My sources say we are too invested in our " process "

[jday]

I may be in the minority on this, however, I find Payton to be a very unlikable dude. He's an egomaniac of the 1st degree, has operated in a manner that demonstrates that he believes he and his teams "above" the established rules, and, more than anything comes across as fairly dishonorable.

Beyond the big things, seeing him run up the score on various opponents, continue to send offensive guys like Brees out late in games that are already decided to juice their stats and/or go to extreme measures to have his guys break NFL records all strike me as strong signs that isn't the kind of coach the Cowboys need or deserve.
Point the finger at Peyton, and yet use a guy that tried to destroy the world back in the 80's as your avatar. A bit hypocritical, don't ya think?

[burmafrd]

Point the finger at Peyton, and yet use a guy that tried to destroy the world back in the 80's as your avatar. A bit hypocritical, don't ya think?

wow what a way to try and avoid things

[BraveHeartFan]

There is absolutely no chance, at all, that Payton will be coaching the Dallas Cowboys next year.

[jday]

wow what a way to try and avoid things
What? Did you confuse me with someone else? I'm not even sure what it is you are trying to say.

[joseephuss]

There is absolutely no chance, at all, that Payton will be coaching the Dallas Cowboys next year.

The only chance I see of it happening is if Garrett decides to just call it quits and not deal with the headache of being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And that happening is a very low probability.

[burmafrd]

What? Did you confuse me with someone else? I'm not even sure what it is you are trying to say.

avoid agreeing or disagreeing with his assessment of him.

[AbeBeta]

The only chance I see of it happening is if Garrett decides to just call it quits and not deal with the headache of being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And that happening is a very low probability.

Even if Garrett is no longer here, Payton is not going to be here. He will be in NO. If he wants to leave, the Saints are going to contest his contract, arguing that he owes a year because he was suspended for the final year of his deal. They'll want to get something for him to set him loose. They can tie this up for a while.

NO, to me is the perfect situation. You've got a team with great talent playing terribly. It will be easy for him to come back and turn stuff around with that group.

[cajuncocoa]

I may be in the minority on this, however, I find Payton to be a very unlikable dude. He's an egomaniac of the 1st degree, has operated in a manner that demonstrates that he believes he and his teams "above" the established rules, and, more than anything comes across as fairly dishonorable.

Beyond the big things, seeing him run up the score on various opponents, continue to send offensive guys like Brees out late in games that are already decided to juice their stats and/or go to extreme measures to have his guys break NFL records all strike me as strong signs that isn't the kind of coach the Cowboys need or deserve.
You're not alone...I agree.

[cajuncocoa]

Hi All,

Saints fan here.

I have been reading your other thread about the Sean Payton situation and whether or not SP would leave NOLA and sign with the Cowboys.

Over on the Saints' boards many fans are freaking out about this. While no one wants to admit it in the back of their minds they know that this is a good move for SP.

The main arguments of why SP would stay in NOLA are 1) The bounties didn't happen and SP will take this personal upon his return, 2) He is loyal to the Saints, 3) He has Drew Brees and Drew just signed a major deal.

While all of the above is true, here is something nobody is considering or talking about.

If Sean Payton had a clause in his contract to void it if something happened to Mickey Loomis, then does Drew Brees have a clause that would void his contract if something happened to Sean Payton? No one knows the details of Drew's contract other than the money involved.

This is a nightmare scenario for the Saints and a possible best case scenario for the Cowboys.

You could end up with Sean Payton, Drew Brees AND Mickey Loomis if Jerrah finally decided he wanted to win again. The Cowboys would probably have 8 prime time games next year.

I don't think it would happen but this has been an extremely crazy year in the NFL and for the Saints.

I don't discount anything anymore.Jerry did make a statement today that he would like to "stir things up." Who knows? He might just make SP an offer that he can't refuse.

[jday]

avoid agreeing or disagreeing with his assessment of him.
It's a blog. I could have not responded at all. What does it matter what I think. Peyton is not going to coach here one way or the other. I was merely attempting to make light of his pointed statement.

[BoysFan4ever]

Jerry did make a statement today that he would like to "stir things up." Who knows? He might just make SP an offer that he can't refuse.

He actually said that a few days ago before all this Payton contract stuff came out.

What it did though was just add fuel to the fire.

Would be fun if he meant it.