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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones credited the coaching for helping turn around the victory against the Browns.
He said he saw first-hand at halftime how head coach Jason Garrett and defensive coordinator Rob Ryan worked to counter the effects of Cleveland’s first half.
“I was here in the locker room at halftime, and I saw the way Rob really made serious adjustments in what we did defensively,” Jones said. “I know that you saw us. I saw us come out and quicken the throws with Romo and just made a difference. Really, this game for me was about the adjustments, about sticking in there, about figuring out a way that at the end to come out on top.”
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“But I liked what we did today, coaching,” Jones said. “Didn’t depart from the game plan at halftime. Presented something to our players to go out there and have the second half that we had. I like that. That shows me. I think that was really top coaching. Of course, Jason, but Rob Ryan on the defensive side of the ball.
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ScipioCowboy
11-18-2012, 07:14 PM
I'm not one to find reason to praise Jerry, but he's making a valid point. The Cowboys outscored the Browns 20-7 in the second half plus overtime.
Bizwah
11-18-2012, 07:28 PM
Honestly, we're a second-half team.
It seems like we come out flat every single game. I can't recall a game this year where we looked like we had a solid gameplan and executed it.
It seems we struggle a great deal....then, after halftime, we start to string some plays together.
To me, this screams of our coaches overestimating our talent....especially on the OL. We think there are things we can do offensively that we simply can't do. We won't be able to run the ball early...although, I like that we try. We won't be able to hit the long routes to our WRs.
We act as if we can go out and impose our will on any team. You'd think, by now, that we would have a gameplan that could mask our greatest weakness.
I'd love to see us come out and go no-huddle....Go Green Bay on a team. Throw short routes...move the chains with easy throws. Then, we can start to open things up as the game moves on. We're a team that has to throw to be able to run.
Hoofbite
11-18-2012, 07:41 PM
With each week it seems Jerry is going more and more into salesman mode about his coach.
Like there are people who's concerns would be put to rest by such an endorsement.
Bigdog24
11-18-2012, 08:12 PM
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones credited the coaching for helping turn around the victory against the Browns.
He said he saw first-hand at halftime how head coach Jason Garrett and defensive coordinator Rob Ryan worked to counter the effects of Cleveland’s first half.
“I was here in the locker room at halftime, and I saw the way Rob really made serious adjustments in what we did defensively,” Jones said. “I know that you saw us. I saw us come out and quicken the throws with Romo and just made a difference. Really, this game for me was about the adjustments, about sticking in there, about figuring out a way that at the end to come out on top.”
Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/cowboys/2012/11/jerry-jones-credits-garrett-ryan-for-halftime-adjustments-that-worked-like-a-charm.html#storylink=cpy
WTH....Someone needs to shut this guy down.... this is really just to much....Jerry Jones is killing his legacy as an owner by RUNNING HIS MOUTH..... :bang2:
Dave_in-NC
11-18-2012, 09:28 PM
Why does this brilliant coach need to wait till half time to make adjustments?
And why start out the same way week after week when it rarely works?
mldardy
11-18-2012, 10:37 PM
Why does this brilliant coach need to wait till half time to make adjustments?
And why start out the same way week after week when it rarely works?
That's what a good coach does when the game plan isn't working they make adjustments. Would you rather the coaches not make adjustments at all and stick with the same ****ty game plan. People like you can't be happen about anything.
BoysFan4ever
11-18-2012, 10:55 PM
He goes into the locker room at halftime? Geez.
Honestly, we're a second-half team.
It seems like we come out flat every single game. I can't recall a game this year where we looked like we had a solid gameplan and executed it.
It seems we struggle a great deal....then, after halftime, we start to string some plays together.
To me, this screams of our coaches overestimating our talent....especially on the OL. We think there are things we can do offensively that we simply can't do. We won't be able to run the ball early...although, I like that we try. We won't be able to hit the long routes to our WRs.
We act as if we can go out and impose our will on any team. You'd think, by now, that we would have a gameplan that could mask our greatest weakness.
I'd love to see us come out and go no-huddle....Go Green Bay on a team. Throw short routes...move the chains with easy throws. Then, we can start to open things up as the game moves on. We're a team that has to throw to be able to run.yes, i think the slow starts are not being able to run the ball and Romo and wr needing some time or a few possessions to get into a rhythm .
Given that and the current state of OLine would like to see dallas come out no huddle at the start - may increase risk of turnovers though
Luckenbach
11-18-2012, 11:21 PM
The slow starts are due to a lack of any game plan whatsoever, and an overall lack of accountability. (Note: Garrett's golf clap that appears with TDs for either team, penalties, and poor execution of his even poorer play calls)
The adjustments are usually consisting of 'kill' 'kill' from Romo. Basically Romo taking over and choosing between run/pass since Garrett clearly has no answers, week in and week out.
I'm fine with close games, but the Browns GAVE us 10 first downs from penalties. Usually that's our gimmick but leave it to the Browns to improve upon the 'process'.
This game and the Eagles game were both losses for the Offense (Championed by the fearless leader Garrett)
We NEEDED 3 Defense/ST TDs vs. the Eagles to win. We NEEDED 10 First downs via penalties vs. the Browns to win. Both of these teams have losing records and are not exactly power houses, yet we NEEDED outlier plays and help in order to win.
My problem is that even football 101 is ignored EVERY SUNDAY.
How did we not exploit this skrine kid more? He was called for like 3 penalties in a row, and clearly couldn't keep up with Bryant.
You'd think 'Joe Haden' is out, might come up in their game plan, instead it was 'RKG' BS. The RKG seems to be one who doesn't mind playing like garbage, and 'improving the process' for next week.
Notice the Boos and the empty seats in Jerry World. If the fan base keeps it up we can fire Garrett, Jerry may love Garrett but he loves full stadiums and empty merchandise stores much much more...
ConstantReboot
11-19-2012, 12:06 AM
Why does this brilliant coach need to wait till half time to make adjustments?
And why start out the same way week after week when it rarely works?
I don't get that either. Why not come out on offense with our guns blazing? I know we used to do it before Garrett was OC.
Seriously, Garrett just needs to look back in time and see all the top plays that made us into an offensive powerhouse.
Play action pass, bootlegs, moving pockets, delayed draws, crossing patterns, and anyway to get Romo out of the pocket in creating those big plays. I don't see those happen as much anymore. Its because Garrett has switched the offense's philosophy to something more of a ball control, short yardage,type. It just doesn't fit the talent that we got.
I thought we made good halftime adjustments for once.Kudos to Red and Ryan.
Idgit
11-19-2012, 12:48 AM
Our first two drives today were derailed by a WR making the wrong route adjustment and by a first-down holding penalty on the second drive.
I want to see Dwayne Harris at WR3 next week. I'm tired of the miscues.
Dave_in-NC
11-19-2012, 05:25 AM
That's what a good coach does when the game plan isn't working they make adjustments. Would you rather the coaches not make adjustments at all and stick with the same ****ty game plan. People like you can't be happen about anything.
I simply asked a question. Why does it take so long to adjust when clearly what they are doing isn't working? I see you don't have the answer.
Dave_in-NC
11-19-2012, 05:26 AM
Our first two drives today were derailed by a WR making the wrong route adjustment and by a first-down holding penalty on the second drive.
I want to see Dwayne Harris at WR3 next week. I'm tired of the miscues.
This.
burmafrd
11-19-2012, 07:01 AM
That's what a good coach does when the game plan isn't working they make adjustments. Would you rather the coaches not make adjustments at all and stick with the same ****ty game plan. People like you can't be happen about anything.
well in the real world where there are good coaches they would have a game plan that worked in the first half
I know that is hard for some people to comprehend
big dog cowboy
11-19-2012, 07:47 AM
He goes into the locker room at halftime? Geez.
Socks to the jocks.
:laugh2:
marchetta
11-19-2012, 08:52 AM
“I was here in the locker room at halftime...”
That's the problem! Jimmy would've kicked his *** out! :mad:
Phrozen Phil
11-19-2012, 10:13 AM
While some adjustments were made at half-time, we won in large part due to poor play by the Browns. When your opposition commits 12 penalties, you should be beating them. Buster Skrine and Sheldon Brown should have been arrested for mugging. Make no mistake, this was not a good football game. We should not be playing down to a poorer team.
Cajuncowboy
11-19-2012, 10:23 AM
We were only down 13 points at half time. If they adjustments "Worked like a charm" we wouldn't have gone to overtime.
cowboys2233
11-19-2012, 11:40 AM
Our first two drives today were derailed by a WR making the wrong route adjustment and by a first-down holding penalty on the second drive.
I want to see Dwayne Harris at WR3 next week. I'm tired of the miscues.
Just knowing how many times there has been miscommunication between QB and receiver has me wondering if this is some sort of systemic problem, rather than just having the dumbest receivers in the league?
It sounds like both QB and receiver have to be on the same page -- if they see things differently, they run something other than what the QB is expecting, often leading to horrifying (i.e. pick sixes or momentum killing interceptions) results. How subjective are these reads? Because if there is a lot of room for interpretation, it makes perfect sense that these reads wouldn't always align. Almost like there is TOO much flexibility in what the receivers are allowed to do. And quite frankly, if they're reading what the guy across from them is doing, along with trying to see what the safeties are doing -- just seems like a lot to worry about when you're trying to run crisp routes and get open.
I just see way too much second guessing out there and it's preventing our players from playing fast.
cowboys2233
11-19-2012, 11:43 AM
We were only down 13 points at half time. If they adjustments "Worked like a charm" we wouldn't have gone to overtime.
Dude, coming back from 13 points downs after the utter futility of the offense in the first half was akin to climbing Mt. Everest.
I still can't believe we won that game. Just a tremendous comeback against a very spirited Browns team -- these are season saving types of games.
Cajuncowboy
11-19-2012, 03:39 PM
Dude, coming back from 13 points downs after the utter futility of the offense in the first half was akin to climbing Mt. Everest.
I still can't believe we won that game. Just a tremendous comeback against a very spirited Browns team -- these are season saving types of games.
Talent and organization trumps "spirit" every time. This was a poor team we played and a struggling rookie QB.
So, dude, don't give me that this was some kind of Lombardi like job that Ryan and Garrett pulled off. Now if it have been a top team and we did this, then yes, I would give more credit but obviously it wasn't.
cowboys2233
11-19-2012, 03:45 PM
Talent and organization trumps "spirit" every time. This was a poor team we played and a struggling rookie QB.
So, dude, don't give me that this was some kind of Lombardi like job that Ryan and Garrett pulled off. Now if it have been a top team and we did this, then yes, I would give more credit but obviously it wasn't.
What if Dez's finger had been an inch shorter and we wound up beating the defending SB champs after being down 23-0? Would that have been Lombardi like?
rickjameschinaclub
11-19-2012, 03:46 PM
With each week it seems Jerry is going more and more into salesman mode about his coach.
Like there are people who's concerns would be put to rest by such an endorsement.
This right here.... If jerry is making statements about how this team adjusted at half-time, you can be damn sure everybody was laughing just at hpw pathetic a job Jason was actually doing prior and how he doesn't shorten the routes. Hip-hip hooray that Jason did what any coach with a half-a-brain, let alone one being paid five million a year, would have done.
I didn't watch the game until the end, but I heard we were gifted a few PI calls as well.
Idgit
11-19-2012, 03:55 PM
Just knowing how many times there has been miscommunication between QB and receiver has me wondering if this is some sort of systemic problem, rather than just having the dumbest receivers in the league?
It sounds like both QB and receiver have to be on the same page -- if they see things differently, they run something other than what the QB is expecting, often leading to horrifying (i.e. pick sixes or momentum killing interceptions) results. How subjective are these reads? Because if there is a lot of room for interpretation, it makes perfect sense that these reads wouldn't always align. Almost like there is TOO much flexibility in what the receivers are allowed to do. And quite frankly, if they're reading what the guy across from them is doing, along with trying to see what the safeties are doing -- just seems like a lot to worry about when you're trying to run crisp routes and get open.
I just see way too much second guessing out there and it's preventing our players from playing fast.
Being able to adjust on the fly, mentally, is every bit as much of a skill as doing it physically. Just seeing how Romo connected with Robinson--with just one abbreviated offseason--convinced me that the issue probably isn't with the QB or the system, necessarily. Harris, too, seems to get it. And Witten, and Miles.
You can also tell when Romo stopped forcing to Dez and KO. The TO problem cleared up pretty dramatically. I think, if we're going to fault anything here, it's in not getting the right players to be successful here. KO's been on this roster, what, 4 years now? Ridiculous. He can't cut it, and, if we were betting on someone else stepping up, we crapped out so far. We should have brought in some insurance at the beginning of the season.
Dave_in-NC
11-19-2012, 04:00 PM
Being able to adjust on the fly, mentally, is every bit as much of a skill as doing it physically. Just seeing how Romo connected with Robinson--with just one abbreviated offseason--convinced me that the issue probably isn't with the QB or the system, necessarily. Harris, too, seems to get it. And Witten, and Miles.
You can also tell when Romo stopped forcing to Dez and KO. The TO problem cleared up pretty dramatically. I think, if we're going to fault anything here, it's in not getting the right players to be successful here. KO's been on this roster, what, 4 years now? Ridiculous. He can't cut it, and, if we were betting on someone else stepping up, we crapped out so far. We should have brought in some insurance at the beginning of the season.
I agree with every thing except the bold part. I think they just aren't giving Harris or Beasley a chance for what ever reason. I really can't see how either could be any worse. Harris really seems to know what's going on.
cowboys2233
11-19-2012, 04:05 PM
Being able to adjust on the fly, mentally, is every bit as much of a skill as doing it physically. Just seeing how Romo connected with Robinson--with just one abbreviated offseason--convinced me that the issue probably isn't with the QB or the system, necessarily. Harris, too, seems to get it. And Witten, and Miles.
Yeah, you're probably right (although Miles also seems to disappear a lot more than he should, given his talent). But it seems like the team should be able to come up with something, recognizing the stupidity of KO and DB. Instead of having them analyze the defense (which they are clearly incapable of doing), give them set routes to run, no matter what the defensive alignment is. That way, they no longer have to worry about interpreting things correctly -- they run what they're supposed to run and then the onus is put on Romo's shoulders. He knows what set route they have, if he sees that the defense will give that up, great, keep the play as is. If not, maybe come up with an audible that changes the pattern but one that is still set in stone, not allowing the receiver to change based on what he thinks he sees.
The point is, Dez is physically capable of beating ANY one on one coverage and Ogletree is quick enough to get open the majority of the time. Only their minds are holding them back. So take their minds out of the equation.
CanadianCowboysFan
11-19-2012, 04:23 PM
That's what a good coach does when the game plan isn't working they make adjustments. Would you rather the coaches not make adjustments at all and stick with the same ****ty game plan. People like you can't be happen about anything.
You missed his point. Garrett's teams never seem ready to play, not sure why that is.
Idgit
11-19-2012, 04:28 PM
I agree with every thing except the bold part. I think they just aren't giving Harris or Beasley a chance for what ever reason. I really can't see how either could be any worse. Harris really seems to know what's going on.
Yeah, that's exactly why I went with 'so far.' I think Harris is on the verge of solving that problem if he gets the snaps.
He doesn't need to be a world-beater. I'm just talking about consistently making the three-four catches that keep drives going long enough to end in more points.
Yeah, you're probably right (although Miles also seems to disappear a lot more than he should, given his talent). But it seems like the team should be able to come up with something, recognizing the stupidity of KO and DB. Instead of having them analyze the defense (which they are clearly incapable of doing), give them set routes to run, no matter what the defensive alignment is. That way, they no longer have to worry about interpreting things correctly -- they run what they're supposed to run and then the onus is put on Romo's shoulders. He knows what set route they have, if he sees that the defense will give that up, great, keep the play as is. If not, maybe come up with an audible that changes the pattern but one that is still set in stone, not allowing the receiver to change based on what he thinks he sees.
The point is, Dez is physically capable of beating ANY one on one coverage and Ogletree is quick enough to get open the majority of the time. Only their minds are holding them back. So take their minds out of the equation.
That curl route by KO that killed the opening drive yesterday just set me over the edge. I don't get how that's still happening after four years, and why he's still getting starting snaps if it does. I'm much more critical of that stuff when it comes to Garrett than I am of the play calling or clock management. Get those plays right, and we're not needing last-second FGs to keep playoff hopes alive.
fortdick
11-19-2012, 04:30 PM
I simply asked a question. Why does it take so long to adjust when clearly what they are doing isn't working? I see you don't have the answer.
I guess y0u come in with a game plan and try to make it work. How long before you give up on it? That is the question. IIRC they didn't have to ball much in the first half so I guess about four drives to figure out they weren't going to be able to run, or take the 7 step drop and wait for routes to open.
The half time adjustment was great. Maybe they could have switched late in the 2nd qtr., but what they did worked.
cowboys2233
11-19-2012, 05:25 PM
Yeah, that's exactly why I went with 'so far.' I think Harris is on the verge of solving that problem if he gets the snaps.
He doesn't need to be a world-beater. I'm just talking about consistently making the three-four catches that keep drives going long enough to end in more points.
That curl route by KO that killed the opening drive yesterday just set me over the edge. I don't get how that's still happening after four years, and why he's still getting starting snaps if it does. I'm much more critical of that stuff when it comes to Garrett than I am of the play calling or clock management. Get those plays right, and we're not needing last-second FGs to keep playoff hopes alive.
That's what started me thinking about this. To my eyes, it seems like Ogletree had it right, there was a safety bearing down -- seems like if he had turn upfield and was where Romo threw that ball, that safety would have absolutely annihilated him. But it sounds like the consensus is that it was Ogletree's fault, so I don't doubt that it was. But what was it that should have told him that he should have turned up field instead of cutting the route off? Was it how his man was playing him? Was it something in the overall defensive alignment? Or did he just screw up in the most basic way, running an out when Romo called a skinny post? If that's the case, then yes, absolutely no excuse at this juncture. But again, if its a matter of reading some defender, I can see how the QB could see it one way and the receiver another, but that's probably not the case.
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