Eagles release Babin

[RS12]

Joe Person ‏@josephperson
stunner. RT @adbrandt Eagles release Jason Babin. Will owe remaining balance of $5.6M salary, $1.64M, if he is not claimed on waivers.
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I'd bring him in for a look.

[rash]

jerry!

go get em!

[Joshmil53]

Wow, wasn't he their sack leader last year?

[Gaede]

Oh geez, I can't believe that.

They're just firing everyone over there?

Babin is a really really good player.

[Cajuncowboy]

Unless there is something I don't know about this release I would be all over this like ugly on Rosanne Barr.

[VThokie7]

Granted it has been a number of years, but if I recall, wasn't he a poor OLB in a 3-4 his first few seasons in Houston?

[ufcrules1]

Only thing is he is getting up there in age... he is sitting at 32.

[Joshmil53]

Only thing is he is getting up there in age... he is sitting at 32.

And completely one dimensional.

[Frozen700]

I'll take him....it's not like we have a million pass rushers anyways

[TheCoolFan]

Impressive move. He was the only guy that seemed to benefit from that Wide-9 technique last year. I know he can't really play the run very well but 18 sacks and gone the next year :laugh2:

Although I wouldn't be surprised if he was on some performance enhancers. The guy was bouncing around the league and only had 4-5 sacks per year until he went up to 12.5 in his contract year in 2010. Then got paid by the Eagles

[ufcrules1]

I'll take him....it's not like we have a million pass rushers anyways

If we could get him cheap... then why not?

[Chocolate Lab]

Granted it has been a number of years, but if I recall, wasn't he a poor OLB in a 3-4 his first few seasons in Houston?

Yep...

[Zimmy Lives]

Yep...

Could not play the run if his life depended on it. Might make a good situation pass rusher, though. Especially since Wilbur has been MIA all season.

[Future]

If we could get him cheap... then why not?
Why?

Maybe he's a backup/situational guy, but to bring in a 32 year old at this point in the year makes no sense. Maybe if we were serious contenders, but at this juncture, you don't gain anything by bringing him in.

[stasheroo]

I think something happened behind the scenes here that obviously none of the involved parties will talk about.

In watching him the past few games and what was (and wasn't) going on with him, I thought something must be 'up'.

I think he's one of the guys that's 'cashed it in' as far as his effort goes.

This definitely confirms some of that, and then some.

[jgboys1]

I like to get him for this Sunday nights game vs the egirls.:cunning:

[stasheroo]

At this point, it wouldn't shock me if Asomugha is the next guy out the door.

[Frozen700]

At this point, it wouldn't shock me if Asomugha is the next guy out the door.

Oh, he will be...soon

[Frozen700]

If we could get him cheap... then why not?

Agreed

[ajk23az]

Per rotoworld he has been a big liability vs the run and has been sub par pass rushing (5.5 sacks)

[demdcowboys#1]

He is 32 and would cost a fortune to bring in this dead weight. But then again, these are the type of guys Jerry goes after. Because he wants instant gratification.

I'll pass.

[jjktkk]

Granted it has been a number of years, but if I recall, wasn't he a poor OLB in a 3-4 his first few seasons in Houston?

Yes. And doesn't Philly play him as 4-3 DE?

[RastaRocket]

He's overrated.

[Risen Star]

Not a stunner if you've followed their situation closely this year. Babin has been nearly invisible rushing the passer and is a real liability defending the run.

[ScipioCowboy]

As many four man fronts as the Cowboys run, especially on passing downs, I could see it. I'm not one who advocates the signing of every available free agents, but we're desperate. And maybe Babin needs a chance of scenery.

[MichaelWinicki]

I give Philly credit for dumping his underperforming butt right now.

[Hostile]

He was good...last year. This year he has been a liability IMO.

[Risen Star]

He was good...last year. This year he has been a liability IMO.

He's been awful and has been one of the popular whipping boys for fans on sports radio in Philly. Babin did one thing very well to keep him on the field considering he can't play the run. He hasn't gotten to the QB at all this year. So he's basically been worthless.

There are also rumblings that he's a bad locker room guy.

[Yeagermeister]

If he clears waivers maybe but no thanks to that salary.

[CowboysFanSince88]

The Eagles are making moves and continuing to fore staff and release players LOL

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8683453&i=FB&w=1cdbd&wjb

[Lonestar94]

I thought he was a really good player for them..

[silver]

Wow. We better beat this wounded duck of a team on sunday night.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I thought he was a really good player for them..


Not in 2012. This leads me to believe Reid won't be fired

[joseephuss]

He'll land somewhere as a 3rd down pass rusher.

[pjtoadie]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallascowboys.php?t=248058

[stasheroo]

He's been awful and has been one of the popular whipping boys for fans on sports radio in Philly. Babin did one thing very well to keep him on the field considering he can't play the run. He hasn't gotten to the QB at all this year. So he's basically been worthless.

There are also rumblings that he's a bad locker room guy.

Yeah, this was the vibe I was getting from watching things too.

Seemed like he was doing his own thing out there and couldn't be bothered about anything other than getting 'his sacks'.

And if they're serious about sending a message, I'd dump that grossly overpaid cornerback who doesn't care too.

[Risen Star]

Yeah, this was the vibe I was getting from watching things too.

Seemed like he was doing his own thing out there and couldn't be bothered about anything other than getting 'his sacks'.

And if they're serious about sending a message, I'd dump that grossly overpaid cornerback who doesn't care too.

Don't be surprised if Nnamdi is playing somewhere else next year too. I'm no cap expert but if it's at all doable, they may go that route.

[dfense]

Joe Person ‏@josephperson
stunner. RT @adbrandt Eagles release Jason Babin. Will owe remaining balance of $5.6M salary, $1.64M, if he is not claimed on waivers.
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I'd bring him in for a look.Yes, bring in a 4-3 DE with no sacks for a look! woo hoo!

[stasheroo]

Don't be surprised if Nnamdi is playing somewhere else next year too. I'm no cap expert but if it's at all doable, they may go that route.

I've read that they could actually save about $1 million on his deal if they deactivated him this year.

Something about his guarantees being tied to the percentage of snaps he played this year.

I would think that cutting him would put a real damper on that.

And honestly, there's not a player on the team that epitomizes the underachieving and lackadaisical attitude more than him.

[Oh_Canada]

He'll be in New England by Friday morning.

[Hostile]

I've read that they could actually save about $1 million on his deal if they deactivated him this year.

Something about his guarantees being tied to the percentage of snaps he played this year.

I would think that cutting him would put a real damper on that.

And honestly, there's not a player on the team that epitomizes the underachieving and lackadaisical attitude more than him.So true, and the irony of that is delicious to me given the fallout here when he ditched us.

[RS12]

Brad Clark ‏@nflfuture
$2 million to claim Babin. Who has and who would want to spend it non someone that has way underperformed this year?
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[CowboysFanSince88]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallascowboys.php?t=248058


I thought threads like this was only for the NFL zone

[stasheroo]

So true, and the irony of that is delicious to me given the fallout here when he ditched us.

I have to admit I rued.

But I do think that we would have been much improved with Nnamdi last year in Ryan's defense over Terrance Newman.

May have meant that one game's difference between playoffs and no playoffs.

[mgcowboy]

Watch out...redskins will pick him up....

:cool:

[Blackspider214]

We won't sign him. Why? Because his back pedal speed isn't fast enough when we want to send him 30 yards down the field in coverage like Rob loves to do. :rolleyes:

[BTX]

sign em Jeerah!

[FiveRings]

Babin is tremendously overrated, he just got roped in with the great crop of FAs Philly went after two years ago. He put up decent numbers but never really blew my mind in Tennessee

[BTX]

Babin is tremendously overrated, he just got roped in with the great crop of FAs Philly went after two years ago. He put up decent numbers but never really blew my mind in Tennessee
He had 10 sacks last year he is not overarated.

[FiveRings]

He had 10 sacks last year he is not overarated.

So could Victor Butler if he dipped his shoulder and speed rushed every single snap

[pjtoadie]

I thought threads like this was only for the NFL zone

Actually yeah you're right but I was just posting that there was another thread on it :D

[CowboysFanSince88]

Actually yeah you're right but I was just posting that there was another thread on it :D


So is it ok to start threads on the Fan Zone about the eagles. skins, or giants?

[mldardy]

So could Victor Butler if he dipped his shoulder and speed rushed every single snap

:rolleyes: He actually had 18 last year and Victor Butler couldn't get 18 sacks in 3 years if he tried.

[Yoshimitsu]

He's one dimensional and has no drive at all.

[BTX]

So could Victor Butler if he dipped his shoulder and speed rushed every single snap

WOW..lol ,you cant be serious.

[CATCH17]

If we were in the hunt then I would do it.

With the position we are in i'd just stay away.

[FiveRings]

WOW..lol ,you cant be serious.

I'm ENTIRELY serious. I only entertain signing Babin if we wanted to use him as a 3rd down rusher, which he won't do. Besides, who do you want him o take snaps from? Ware? Spencer? No thanks

[The Natural]

bad locker room guy

[pjtoadie]

So is it ok to start threads on the Fan Zone about the eagles. skins, or giants?

Not sure if you're being facetious or not? I was just pointing out that the other thread was created an hour before yours....not trying to ruffle any feathers or anything :)

[BraveHeartFan]

I heard he signed with the Raiders already.

Pretty funny because I remember last year having people on this forum drooling all over this guy about how great he was and how he was turning into a better pass rusher than Ware.


I guess all that pass rushing greatness wasn't needed in Philly so they just up and let him go.

[joseephuss]

He had 10 sacks last year he is not overarated.

He had 18 sacks last year. He has 53.5 sacks during his career, which started in 2004. So as a pass rusher he hasn't been consistently elite and has not done near as well this season getting to the QB. He is poor at defending the run.

I don't know about him being overrated because I don't recall many people ever saying he was that great. He basically had a couple of good seasons sacking the QB over 2010 and 2011, but for most of his career has been less than average at creating a pass rush.

He is not worth the money he was being paid, but he could probably help some team at a lower price. I don't see any team putting a claim on him, but after he clears waivers a team or two may have some interest.

[dogberry]

Doesn't he have enough seniority to choose where he goes?

[joseephuss]

:rolleyes: He actually had 18 last year and Victor Butler couldn't get 18 sacks in 3 years if he tried.

Butler could get 18 sacks in 3 years, but he would have to get a lot more snaps than he usually gets. I don't think putting Butler in that situation would help Dallas all that much.

[CyberB0b]

No thanks. Doesn't fit here.

[InmanRoshi]

Philly is in a tail spin right now, and franchises in tail spins frequently do dumb/illogical things. He'll get picked up in short order (Atlanta would be a great fit to replace Ray Edwards), and if it's by a team that goes far in the playoffs everyone will go on and on about what a great player he is and what a gift from above he turned out to be.

[FiveRings]

Butler could get 18 sacks in 3 years, but he would have to get a lot more snaps than he usually gets. I don't think putting Butler in that situation would help Dallas all that much.

You missed the former, I said that if Butler rushed the outside shoulder every snap like Babin does he could put up his numbers

[M'Kevon]

You missed the former, I said that if Butler rushed the outside shoulder every snap like Babin does he could put up his numbers

Which results in "you have got to be kidding." Butler isn't in the same zip code as a motivated Babin.

[RXP]

With our need for a pass rusher on the D-Line, I think the cowboys should take a look at signing Babin. He's proven to be a very good pass rusher, with an 18 sack season last year. While admittedly I'm not sure if he would make the transition to 3-4 D end, he could probably be a 3rd down/situational pass rusher for us, plus he couldn't be any worse than what we already have in terms of pass rush on the D line :laugh2:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8683453/philadelphia-eagles-cut-jason-babin-year-18-sack-season

(sorry if this has been posted already)

[Tezz]

The only time Jason Babin has been productive in his career was in the wide9 scheme, I expect him to sign with a team that utilizes that scheme.

[durrrr]

I don't see the point.

[RXP]

I don't see the point.

Because we have borderline no pass rush coming from our D-Line.

[Boys122]

omg!! We Haz To Sinz Him Fo Sure!!

[maxdallasfan]

glad he got cut. He's an ***

[Hostile]

In before the merge.

[MichaelWinicki]

Let's see...

The guy is 32
He provides no run support
He's not the pass rusher he was last year
There are suggestions that he's had some issues in the lockerroom
His contract is very large for the next two seasons


Pass.

[durrrr]

Because we have borderline no pass rush coming from our D-Line.

So you see him as a 3-4 DE? Because that's pretty much the exact opposite of what he was doing in Philly. He could carve out a niche as a pass rusher on passing downs, but I don't think that's near enough to get us into the playoff hunt, so, yeah, I don't see the point.

[durrrr]

Not in 2012. This leads me to believe Reid won't be fired

Um, what?

Of course Reid will be fired. Why would this have any impact on Reid's status?

[RXP]

So you see him as a 3-4 DE? Because that's pretty much the exact opposite of what he was doing in Philly. He could carve out a niche as a pass rusher on passing downs, but I don't think that's near enough to get us into the playoff hunt, so, yeah, I don't see the point.

Isn't that exactly what I said?

Of course it's not enough for a playoff run. Unless we sign the patriots O line and the entire 49ers defense we're not making the playoffs, but he could be an upgrade at pass rusher for us, of course he would have to be willing to be a situational player and be a 3-4 D End which is a big IF

[durrrr]

Isn't that exactly what I said?

Of course it's not enough for a playoff run. Unless we sign the patriots O line and the entire 49ers defense we're not making the playoffs, but he could be an upgrade at pass rusher for us, of course he would have to be willing to be a situational player and be a 3-4 D End which is a big IF

To what end? You don't take on a one-dimensional player in his mid-30s like Babin when you're not looking to make a playoff run.

[Kangaroo]

Granted it has been a number of years, but if I recall, wasn't he a poor OLB in a 3-4 his first few seasons in Houston?

He was a complete bust in Houston he has had two good years 12.5 with the Titans & 18 sacks last year.

Despite all that I still take him in a rotation over Butler for the rest of the year. Most years he has gotten 4-5 sacks and this year he has 5.5 before his release.

[Joe Realist]

He was vocal in the locker room about his teammates mistakes and is a one trick pony. He would not work here.

I believe the Lions use the Wide so that could be a fit.

[Kangaroo]

He was vocal in the locker room about his teammates mistakes and is a one trick pony. He would not work here.

I believe the Lions use the Wide so that could be a fit.

he played in a 3-4 under Capers so he is not a stranger to the 3-4 defense

[Trace1015]

why not try him out?

[BAT]

why not try him out?

Hell yes. Guy is better than Poppinga or Guyton. Cowboys need to save their season and adding another catalytic player only makes sense. Especially if the D is not blitzing and just rushing 3 or 4. Might as well rush the best 3 or 4 you got.

Babin is better than every pass rusher on the Cowboys roster not named Ware. This is a no brainer Jerry. It also gives the Cowboys some options at year end with Spencer.

[BAT]

I'm ENTIRELY serious. I only entertain signing Babin if we wanted to use him as a 3rd down rusher, which he won't do. Besides, who do you want him o take snaps from? Ware? Spencer? No thanks

If Wade and the Giants can figure a way to get their best pass rushers in a game together then why can't Rob Ryan?

[Boys122]

I'd rather go with youth. If we draft a little better we can get someone better than Babin.

[Langonelives]

Am I hearing this clearly? Are we interested?

[TheSport78]

Yes and no.

[pupulehaole]

You can't be serious....

[stasheroo]

He was all over the radio doing 'damage control' last night.

Jumped from one ESPN interview to another and then straight to Sirius/NFL radio. In a span of about ten minutes.

Former Eagle Hugh Douglas said flat out that "this guy quit. Anyone can look at the tape."

He called him out as clearly as anyone could have.

Bashed him for quitting on the coach who took a chance on him and helped him to resurrect his career.

After hearing it, I wouldn't want any part of him.

[SkinsandTerps]

They cut him because he quit on the team.

He's 32 and his production fell through the floor.

But sure go right ahead. ;)

[rocboy22]

Yes and no.

haha, this^^^

[xwalker]

Doesn't he have enough seniority to choose where he goes?

Good question.

Vested veterans are not subject to waivers until after the trade deadline.

[Joe Realist]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/186k8f5han8xrgif/original.gif

[InmanRoshi]

Officially claimed by Jacksonville, the first 4-3 defense in the waiver wire order. Not bad for a guy who supposedly can't play.

[BAZ]

Jacksonville are not know for their excellent talent evaluation. Strange they would do it now, not like he can help them this year.

[Bluestang]

Jason Babin was interviewed about his release yesterday by ESPN and he flat out said that after he received the phone call from Reid, he basically laughed it off.

Even during his interview he was laughing at what had happened, and couldn't figure out why he was let go.

[InmanRoshi]

Jacksonville are not know for their excellent talent evaluation. Strange they would do it now, not like he can help them this year.

If you think Jacksonville is the only team that was interested, you must be one of those people who believe Babin is uniquely bad against the run and that every great pass outside rusher in the NFL is also a great run defender (Aldon Smith couldn't stack and shed Verne Troyer). Jacksonville just had first dibs on him.

[InmanRoshi]

Jason Babin was interviewed about his release yesterday by ESPN and he flat out said that after he received the phone call from Reid, he basically laughed it off.

Even during his interview he was laughing at what had happened, and couldn't figure out why he was let go.

It's past the trading deadline, the Eagles have tanked the season, he was going to be a salary cap casualty in the offseason, and he was currently blocking a former 1st round draft pick and a former 2nd round pick and taking their reps. Doesn't mean he can't play or that he can't be a valuable player on another franchise.

I would have reduced his snaps and tried to flip him for a draft pick in the offseason, but I'm guessing there's not a lot of calm rational thought and foreward longterm vision going on at Eagles Headquarters at the moment.

[BAZ]

If you think Jacksonville is the only team that was interested, you must be one of those people who believe Babin is uniquely bad against the run and that every great pass outside rusher in the NFL is also a great run defender (Aldon Smith couldn't stack and shed Verne Troyer). Jacksonville just had first dibs on him.

You have quite the talent for misunderstanding posts. But by all means keep pigeonholing.

[RoyTheHammer]

Hell yes. Guy is better than Poppinga or Guyton. Cowboys need to save their season and adding another catalytic player only makes sense. Especially if the D is not blitzing and just rushing 3 or 4. Might as well rush the best 3 or 4 you got.

Babin is better than every pass rusher on the Cowboys roster not named Ware. This is a no brainer Jerry. It also gives the Cowboys some options at year end with Spencer.

If you honestly think Babin would be able to play anywhere near Spencer's level at OLB in a 34.. than you really are BAT crazy.

Babin wasn't even a good pass rusher until he started playing in that gimmicky "wide 9" bs. Even now, all he does is rush the passer, and he lets up alot of big runs his way because he has tunnel vision. It would be completely stupid to go after him for this D, imo.

[RoyTheHammer]

Jason Babin was interviewed about his release yesterday by ESPN and he flat out said that after he received the phone call from Reid, he basically laughed it off.

Even during his interview he was laughing at what had happened, and couldn't figure out why he was let go.

Because offenses that came into Philly were laughing at him the entire time?

He sucks.. laughing won't change that.

[RoyTheHammer]

If you think Jacksonville is the only team that was interested, you must be one of those people who believe Babin is uniquely bad against the run and that every great pass outside rusher in the NFL is also a great run defender (Aldon Smith couldn't stack and shed Verne Troyer). Jacksonville just had first dibs on him.

Not the only team interested.. there were two others as well. :)

3 teams in the entire league are all that wanted to give him a shot. Must be a great player..

[big dog cowboy]

Cowboys need to save their season and adding another catalytic player

Babin can play OL?

[SkinsandTerps]

Babin can play OL?

That was a perfect response. Good timing sir. haha.