brockers pretty good game

[jblaze2004]

vs the bills, 1.5 sacks a force fumble and 7 tackles. Pretty good numbers. He has been pretty good.

[danielofthesaints]

I think you meant this for the NFL zone. :rolleyes:

[supercowboy8]

Yes he played very well om a 4-3. Still don't believe he would make a good 3-4 DE

[burmafrd]

not worth a first rd pick so far

[Manwiththeplan]

not worth a first rd pick so far

4 sacks through 13 games is actually pretty good for an interior lineman.

So using this logic, Warren Sapp wasn't worth a first rounder as a rookie.

And judging an interior guy on sacks alone, makes no sense.

[cowboysooner]

Brockers also missed the first 3 or 4 weeks with an ankle. Brockers would be in the top 10 in a redraft.

[Manwiththeplan]

maybe top 5. Better prospect than Hankins imo.

[Joshmil53]

He hasn't been impressive at all IMO. Definitely not top 5.

[Manwiththeplan]

He hasn't been impressive at all IMO. Definitely not top 5.

if hankins is being talked about going top 5, then there's no reason to say Brockers wouldn't have the same talk.

[tomson75]

I think you meant this for the Ru3age zone. :rolleyes:

FIFY..

[burmafrd]

4 sacks through 13 games is actually pretty good for an interior lineman.

So using this logic, Warren Sapp wasn't worth a first rounder as a rookie.

And judging an interior guy on sacks alone, makes no sense.

you are comparing him to Warren Sapp. You do know that.

its not just sacks. He has not done all that much else. But clearly you are just a homer on this guy so who cares?

[Manwiththeplan]

you are comparing him to Warren Sapp. You do know that.

its not just sacks. He has not done all that much else. But clearly you are just a homer on this guy so who cares?

if what you got from my post was brockers = sapp, then you're clearly the one who's biased on the subject.

FWIW, I don't think it's a coincidence that St.Louis went from allowing 4.8 ypc and 152.1 ypg, to 4.0 ypc and 110.3 ypg.

Brockers isn't soley responsibile, but when you combine the improvement in the run game, and his success collapsing the pocket, there's really no argument to say he's still not worth a first round pick.

[DBOY3141]

not worth a first rd pick so far

Then neither is Claiborne with his 1 interception.

Brockers is and will be a very good DL.

[Joshmil53]

if what you got from my post was brockers = sapp, then you're clearly the one who's biased on the subject.

FWIW, I don't think it's a coincidence that St.Louis went from allowing 4.8 ypc and 152.1 ypg, to 4.0 ypc and 110.3 ypg.

Brockers isn't soley responsibile, but when you combine the improvement in the run game, and his success collapsing the pocket, there's really no argument to say he's still not worth a first round pick.

Quinn is also turning into an elite DE and Lauranitis too. Jenkins and Finnegan help too.

[burmafrd]

if what you got from my post was brockers = sapp, then you're clearly the one who's biased on the subject.

FWIW, I don't think it's a coincidence that St.Louis went from allowing 4.8 ypc and 152.1 ypg, to 4.0 ypc and 110.3 ypg.

Brockers isn't soley responsibile, but when you combine the improvement in the run game, and his success collapsing the pocket, there's really no argument to say he's still not worth a first round pick.

depends on what you define as what is worth a first rd pick.

This guy is not a Seymour and that to me is the only one I would say is worth it

[jobberone]

depends on what you define as what is worth a first rd pick.

This guy is not a Seymour and that to me is the only one I would say is worth it

I'm thinking you don't really mean Seymour is the only DL worth a first round pick.

One of the best DL I've ever seen doesn't get a lot of 'stats' but he makes his defense much much better....Vince Wilfork.

[RoyTheHammer]

vs the bills, 1.5 sacks a force fumble and 7 tackles. Pretty good numbers. He has been pretty good.

Would you say overall that he's.. pretty good?

[Ntegrase96]

If the purpose of this thread is truly to congratulate a young man on his success in the NFL then I'm all for it. He's been good this season.

If the purpose of this thread is to rue not taking Brockers in the draft then it's completely flawed for numerous reasons.

A.) Draft for talent, not for need... Mo' Claiborne has more potential as a CB than Brockers as a DL.

B.) Would Brockers even be successful as a 3-4 DE? I have a feeling that he wouldn't be.

C.) It's way to early to tell for either rookie.

And so on an so forth.

[Joshmil53]

I'm thinking you don't really mean Seymour is the only DL worth a first round pick.

One of the best DL I've ever seen doesn't get a lot of 'stats' but he makes his defense much much better....Vince Wilfork.
Wilfork has been pretty trash this year (from A LOT of Patriot fans). Geno Atkins is the best DL in the league and there's no question about it.

[RoyTheHammer]

Wilfork has been pretty trash this year (from A LOT of Patriot fans). Geno Atkins is the best DL in the league and there's no question about it.

Umm.. Patriot fans must be as dumb as most Dallas fans if they think that.

[tomson75]

Wilfork has been pretty trash this year (from A LOT of Patriot fans). Geno Atkins is the best DL in the league and there's no question about it.

Yeah...not sure what games they've been watching, because Wilfork has been far from "trash".

Probably hearing that from the same type of fans that were ready to send Witten packing in week 4.

[CopenhagenCowboy]

If the purpose of this thread is truly to congratulate a young man on his success in the NFL then I'm all for it. He's been good this season.

If the purpose of this thread is to rue not taking Brockers in the draft then it's completely flawed for numerous reasons.

A.) Draft for talent, not for need... Mo' Claiborne has more potential as a CB than Brockers as a DL.

B.) Would Brockers even be successful as a 3-4 DE? I have a feeling that he wouldn't be.

C.) It's way to early to tell for either rookie.

And so on an so forth.

Psst...it's not like they had the same pricetag.

I still prefer Brockers and Wagner over Claiborne.

[Manwiththeplan]

depends on what you define as what is worth a first rd pick.

This guy is not a Seymour and that to me is the only one I would say is worth it

that's just not a realistic standard. It would be like if I said Matt Ryan was worth a top 5 pick b/c he doesn't have Peyton Manning like potential.

I would be completely ignoring the bust rate at that position (and for DTs, it almost as high as QBs)

[Manwiththeplan]

Geno Atkins is the best DL in the league and there's no question about it.

The 6'6 300 pound guy on the Texans DL says otherwise

[Manwiththeplan]

Psst...it's not like they had the same pricetag.

I still prefer Brockers and Wagner over Claiborne.

I liked Brockers, but give me Claiborne.

I know according to our board, Wagner was the BPA at 45, but I still don't think we'd take him.

[Joshmil53]

The 6'6 300 pound guy on the Texans DL says otherwise

Oops, yeah forgot about Juggerwatt