Seahawks up 47-17 fake punt

[Muhast]

I am really growing to dislike Carroll. Anybody else catch this?

What was he thinking, he was up 30 points in the 4th quarter.

[Cythim]

I am really growing to dislike Carroll. Anybody else catch this?

What was he thinking, he was up 30 points in the 4th quarter.

At that point the game is a scrimmage, may as well practice your trick plays to see if they work in a game.

[Luckenbach]

They're all getting paid, this isn't about sportsmanship, it's about doing your J-O-B.

If this was children, then yes you teach sportsmanship, however he's preparing for the playoffs, so might was well treat it as a live practice.

[koolaid]

I don't mind.
The Hawks have shown they can play with anyone.

[stinger26]

Doesn't bother me one bit

[BanditHiro]

cheat carroll being cheat carroll.

[RastaRocket]

If you don't like it, stop it.

[Rack Bauer]

I bet he only did it to make the next opponent (or an opponent in the playoffs) have to game plan for it.

[Heisenberg]

I bet he only did it to make the next opponent (or an opponent in the playoffs) have to game plan for it.

He bascally said as much after the game. He said it was in their gameplan already. He apologized and said he should have called it off.

I'd imagine it was part of their gameplan for that very reason. They wanted to give upcoming teams something to think about.

[Sonny#9]

I really dislike Pete Carroll...

He cheated his way to a National Championship at USC, and bolted before he had to pay any consequences. Then he pulls this crap -- add to that his idiotic sideline antics...

I cannot root for Seattle while he is the HC.

[Sam I Am]

I am really growing to dislike Carroll. Anybody else catch this?

What was he thinking, he was up 30 points in the 4th quarter.

Carroll is a dirtbag. The only reason he came back to the NFL is because he was about to go down hard at USC. He tuck tail and ran.

He is also going to get his QB killed.

[Risen Star]

At that point the game is a scrimmage, may as well practice your trick plays to see if they work in a game.

Actually you don't want to do that and give teams a look at it on film.

[Shunpike]

I don't like Pete Carroll. Not surprised here.

[Idgit]

I like it. Kick 'em when they're down. Teach them to not get down. Win games, don't apologize. That NFCW is going to be fun for years to come with Harbaugh and Carroll and Jeff Fisher in it.

[IAMKING]

He should have throttled it back so he didnt hurt the feelings of grown men that have the inability to do their job.

[Blackspider214]

This is the NFL, not some pee wee football game with 9 year olds.

[Supercowboy1986]

im indifferent towards pete carroll (mainly cause texas beat usc in the national title in 05 so he is small pototatoes in my book) but i do like his ruthlessness on gameday. He's sorta like the black mamba of the NFL :O

[coogrfan]

He should have throttled it back so he didnt hurt the feelings of grown men that have the inability to do their job.

Throttled it back? This wasn't Seattle running it's regular offense. The Hawks ran a fake punt with a 30 point 4th qtr lead. This after repeatedly throwing the ball deep the week before while up 58-0. How can anyone possibly defend that?

[coogrfan]

im indifferent towards pete carroll (mainly cause texas beat usc in the national title in 05 so he is small pototatoes in my book) but i do like his ruthlessness on gameday. He's sorta like the black mamba of the NFL :O

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeese...

Carroll is nothing more than a classic bully: he can dish it out, but can't take it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeS3VeluAmg

[Idgit]

Throttled it back? This wasn't Seattle running it's regular offense. The Hawks ran a fake punt with a 30 point 4th qtr lead. This after repeatedly throwing the ball deep the week before while up 58-0. How can anyone possibly defend that?

It's a game, it's not war. You do your best to score points, they do their best to stop you. You don't have to defend doing what you're supposed to do.

[coogrfan]

It's a game, it's not war. You do your best to score points, they do their best to stop you. You don't have to defend doing what you're supposed to do.

Running a fake punt up 30 in the 4th qtr is "what you're supposed to do"? Really?

At best it's unprofessional. At worst it's incredibly stupid, if for no other reason than (1) revealing a trick play when you don't need to is foolish; and (2) Carroll was fairly begging someone on the Bills to take a cheap shot at one of his own guys.

[BraveHeartFan]

It's hilarious. People saying you're supposed to teach your kids sportsmanship and not doing things like this but then saying "Oh but when you get older you definately forget everything we taught you and you act like a giant ******bag."


lol.

And people wonder why the youth of today grows up to be such useless bums.

[Idgit]

Running a fake punt up 30 in the 4th qtr is "what you're supposed to do"? Really?

At best it's unprofessional. At worst it's incredibly stupid, if for no other reason than (1) revealing a trick play when you don't need to is foolish; and (2) Carroll was fairly begging someone on the Bills to take a cheap shot at one of his own guys.

I don't follow. You do what it takes to put up points. That's the whole reason why you have your offense on the field. I don't understand why you'd expect them to not use trick plays at certain points of the game. That's sort of the point, to use them when you think they'll likely be effective because they're unexpected.

And the sportsmanship argument is absolutely ridiculous in my book. Play within the rules, don't try to hurt players on purpose, play a clean game, and try to win at all costs. That's sportsmanship. *Not* scoring points for an unwritten rule when it's actually your job to do so is *not* sportsmanship. That's taking it easy on the other guy because you feel bad for them. It's insulting and a lot worse in my book.

It happened to me in high school a lot, because our team wasn't very good, and it always sent me into a headhunting rage. All within the guidelines of the rules, of course, because I'm a stickler for good sportsmanship.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

If you don't like it, stop it.

that is a silly response

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I like it. Kick 'em when they're down. Teach them to not get down. Win games, don't apologize. That NFCW is going to be fun for years to come with Harbaugh and Carroll and Jeff Fisher in it.

you sound like the instructor in Karate Kid (the one in China)

[Idgit]

that is a silly response

When people say this, I always think: they don't realize that football is just a game, after all.

[Muhast]

It's hilarious. People saying you're supposed to teach your kids sportsmanship and not doing things like this but then saying "Oh but when you get older you definately forget everything we taught you and you act like a giant ******bag."


lol.

And people wonder why the youth of today grows up to be such useless bums.


bingo.

I didn't complain about them passing the ball with a lead. I didn't complain about them scoring with a big lead. I complained about the fake punt.

Imagine if they would have ran an onside kick at that point.

I am not asking you to just fall down on an INT instead of running it back for a pick 6. But fake punting with a 30 pt lead in the 4th quarter is distasteful.

[Diogenes]

Jimmy Johnson LOLs at this thread.

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

I am really growing to dislike Carroll. Anybody else catch this?

What was he thinking, he was up 30 points in the 4th quarter.{In my best dull, monotone voice} Running up the score and accusations of being a cheater....does that sound like anyone else, say back in 2007? ;) :D

[ajk23az]

When people say this, I always think: they don't realize that football is just a game, after all.

It's also the players job.

That's like saying that Starbucks should let their competitors get closer because they are dominating the market by too wide of a margin..if you don't like it, do something about it.

Look at SNF, 49ers up 28 points...that lead was erased in 1 quarter. No wonder why Belichick runs the score up. Never take anything for granted.

[Idgit]

It's also the players job.

That's like saying that Starbucks should let their competitors get closer because they are dominating the market by too wide of a margin..if you don't like it, do something about it.

Look at SNF, 49ers up 28 points...that lead was erased in 1 quarter. No wonder why Belichick runs the score up. Never take anything for granted.

Good point. Bottom line it, it's not personal. You play to win the game. You play to win the game. Hello? That's the great thing about sports. You play to win. :)

[ApolytonGP]

Supposedly, the play was called by the punt team protector. Just based on their training and the situation. Just executing.

[Boys122]

It was a cheesy move by Carroll.

[coogrfan]

It's also the players job.

That's like saying that Starbucks should let their competitors get closer because they are dominating the market by too wide of a margin..if you don't like it, do something about it.

Look at SNF, 49ers up 28 points...that lead was erased in 1 quarter. No wonder why Belichick runs the score up. Never take anything for granted.

Buffalo is not New England; Ryan Fitzpatrick is not Tom Brady. The fake occured early in the 4th with Seattle up 47-17. To claim the final outcome of the game was even remotely in doubt at that point is disingenuous.

Good point. Bottom line it, it's not personal. You play to win the game. You play to win the game. Hello? That's the great thing about sports. You play to win. :)

Running a fake punt in that situation wasn't "playing to win". Even Pete Carroll is smart enough to realize that, hence his claim after that fact that he regretted not calling it off.