Ricky Williams Discussing a Comback per ESPN.

[VirusX]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2064287

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DAVIE, Fla. -- Ricky Williams is discussing a comeback with the Miami Dolphins, coach Nick Saban said Thursday.

Saban acknowledged holding recent discussions with Williams, whose sudden retirement stunned the Dolphins shortly before training camp began last season. He would not divulge specifics of the talks, but has long said that he was open to the prospect of Williams returning.

Williams rushed for 3,225 yards and 25 touchdowns in his two seasons with the Dolphins.

"Ricky still seems to be very, very interested in coming back," Saban said. "As I've said before, the things that we discuss, we've decided not to talk about publicly. I think that I can safely say that you all know about his situation as I do."

Leigh Steinberg, Williams' agent, didn't immediately return a phone message seeking comment.

Williams, who led the NFL in rushing in 2002, still owes the Dolphins $8.6 million for breaching his contract by unexpectedly retiring.

He also entered into a settlement last month with a former South Florida woman, agreeing to pay $4,200 per month in support and establish a $300,000 trust fund for a child he fathered.

After quitting the Dolphins, the former Heisman Trophy winner later acknowledged that he failed drug tests and faced a suspension for testing positive three times for marijuana.

"There are issues that need to be worked through," Saban said. "We're all in the process of evaluating those issues before it is resolved."

If Williams returns, he'd likely have to wait until July to un-retire. Otherwise, he would face a one-year suspension for his violations of the NFL's substance-abuse program. Williams will still face a four-game suspension for failing a third drug test for marijuana last July, just before he retired.

Plus, the Dolphins used the No. 2 overall pick in last month's draft on another running back, Ronnie Brown of Auburn.

[big dog cowboy]

Miami would be complete morons if they took him back.

[JackMagist]

Miami would be complete morons if they took him back.Not if they could work through the issues and then trade him. They are not going to get their momey back; Williams filed bankruptcy to clear that debt legally. It is still on the books as a debt in the NFL but they will never see the money so they might as well see what they can get by letting him come back and be trade bate (or play).

[KDWilliams85]

I'm inclined to agree. Ronnie Brown is that team's future. If you take Ricky back, trade him for a QB.

[VirusX]

I agree, Ricky is a talented RB but he isnt in the teams future. Grab him and trade him to a team for an impact player like a QB.

[Seven]

Miami is gonna wait until the smoke clears on this one.http://cowboyszone.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[jksmith269]

I'm inclined to agree. Ronnie Brown is that team's future. If you take Ricky back, trade him for a QB.

I agree but right now no team would trade value for him. He will have to prove himself this season then seek a trade in the offseason. But heck if he plays well why not keep him whats wrong with two good RB's? Look at it like this if Brown goes down williams Might be there to back him up and vise versa (SP)

[KDWilliams85]

I agree but right now no team would trade value for him. He will have to prove himself this season then seek a trade in the offseason. But heck if he plays well why not keep him whats wrong with two good RB's? Look at it like this if Brown goes down williams Might be there to back him up and vise versa (SP)

If talent were an issue, I'd agree. But Ricky's character leaves much to be desired. Nick Saban should angle to be like Parcells and not deal with it.

[bobbie brewskie]

any predictions on where he would end up?

[calico]

I am a huge Ricky fan, but they would be stupid to take him back.

[jksmith269]

If talent were an issue, I'd agree. But Ricky's character leaves much to be desired. Nick Saban should angle to be like Parcells and not deal with it.

I agree but the problem is no one will take him for his value right now he'll have to prove his dedication this season and then get traded next offseason if Miami wants to get anything at all for him, and if he plays well by that time they may not want to get rid of him. I think Nick Saban is looking at Rickey like they are both new and is willing to give Rickey the benefit of the doubt. I hope things work out for Rickey he's a great or was a great running back.

[Dale]

After what he did to the organization, and the drafting of Ronnie Brown, it's time to move on. If the goal is to trade him, then fine. But to welcome him back in Miami would be pretty silly. How could any player, coach or fan take the guy seriously?

[KDWilliams85]

After what he did to the organization, and the drafting of Ronnie Brown, it's time to move on. If the goal is to trade him, then fine. But to welcome him back in Miami would be pretty silly. How could any player, coach or fan take the guy seriously?

That's just it... they can't. Ricky wanting to come back and play for the Dolphins says that he has some dedication to football but after what he's done, I wouldn't take him seriously at all. If he wouldn't have left on the premise to just leave, he might be taken a little more seriously. If he would have retired to get his drug habits taken care of and to clean himself up, then I wouldn't have had an issue with it.

[Crown Royal]

I was a big Ricky fan. I mean -BIG. Loved the guy as a player, his style. This devastated me as a fan. Period.

If he wants to come back, fine. But if I were the Dolphins, it wouldn't be on my team.

[Dale]

I was a big Ricky fan. I mean -BIG. Loved the guy as a player, his style. This devastated me as a fan. Period.

If he wants to come back, fine. But if I were the Dolphins, it wouldn't be on my team.

This is where Dexter Coakley's absence is really felt.

If he were still here, we'd see the obligatory, "Why not trade Coakley, whom the Dolphins liked as a free agent several years ago, for Ricky?"

:banghead:

:D

[distinguished22]

Didn't I post this around 7 pm est yesterday? Oh yeah, it was closed due to all of the sarcasm??? To some of the "Whizzinators" in this forum that know everything, "be easy next time":mad: I thought this forum was for all COWBOYS fan to share "sports"news of interest???? Seems like we have more moderators than users/posters! To all of the true fans in this forum, "No Offense"!

And to those wondering, Ricky will be required to serve a four game suspension once he's reinstated! So he'll probably suit up around October. Saban will get critizize for accepting him back, but actually, it's not a bad move! By the way, I'm not a first time poster nor an AGENT! Just a true COWBOYS / Sports fanatic that lives in Dolphin land (5 minutes from their training facility).

[jksmith269]

Didn't I post this around 7 pm est yesterday? Oh yeah, it was closed due to all of the sarcasm??? To some of the "Whizzinators" in this forum that know everything, "be easy next time":mad: I thought this forum was for all COWBOYS fan to share "sports"news of interest???? Seems like we have more moderators than users/posters! To all of the true fans in this forum, "No Offense"!

And to those wondering, Ricky will be required to serve a four game suspension once he's reinstated! So he'll probably suit up around October. Saban will get critizize for accepting him back, but actually, it's not a bad move! By the way, I'm not a first time poster nor an AGENT! Just a true COWBOYS / Sports fanatic that lives in Dolphin land (5 minutes from their training facility).

No yours was removed because the source (Miami Herald) you said you got your info from didn't have a story that Rickey had Already agreed to return to the Dolphins. See the difference you used bogus source and said he had agreed this gives a link and is saying that they are talking which the source confirms. Your source which you didn't provide a link had diddly squat about Rickey written. See the difference.

[distinguished22]

My source was Dan LaBatard, Sportswriter Miami Herald & Analyst ESPN. He reported the news of Ricky's return on his daily broadcast / show. Anyway, it's been known in the South Florida area since the week of the draft that Ricky would be returning to the Dolphins this year! LaBastard, who I do not care for by the way (Extreme Cowboy Hater), is close friends with Puff-Puff-Pass & has written several in-depth pieces on him. Nonetheless, he's very credible & doesn't normally report on bogus rumor! His words were that it's "confirmed " by a herald insider from Nick Saban.

[JackMagist]

My source was Dan LaBatard, Sportswriter Miami Herald & Analyst ESPN. He reported the news of Ricky's return on his daily broadcast / show. Anyway, it's been known in the South Florida area since the week of the draft that Ricky would be returning to the Dolphins this year! LaBastard, who I do not care for by the way (Extreme Cowboy Hater), is close friends with Puff-Puff-Pass & has written several in-depth pieces on him. Nonetheless, he's very credible & doesn't normally report on bogus rumor! His words were that it's "confirmed " by a herald insider from Nick Saban.Unfortunately in this case perhaps this board has a policy of requiring verifiable sources for breaking news stories. A radio broadcast that no one else heard and cannot be verified does not qualify. This is to prevent the kind of thing that happens at the ESPN board all the time with people starting rumors with completely bogus reports.

As I recall you did not mention that it was a radio broadcast in your original post, you just said that your source was a Maimi Harold reporter so everyone assumed it was a written article and went looking for it. When they could not find it and since you are new here and therefore have no credibility built up it was deemed to be an unverifiable rumor and the thread was closed.

Welcome to the board BTW. Don't let this sour you on the place it is a good place to get good accurate information (largely because of the aforementioned policy) and we have some lively discussions.

[wxcpo]

No yours was removed because the source (Miami Herald) you said you got your info from didn't have a story that Rickey had Already agreed to return to the Dolphins. See the difference you used bogus source and said he had agreed this gives a link and is saying that they are talking which the source confirms. Your source which you didn't provide a link had diddly squat about Rickey written. See the difference.

This is what kills me about most message boards today. A bunch of guys who it seems have nothing better to do than try to use a little imaginative power that they supposedly have because they have the title moderator next to their name. I am moderator and I deem this thread to be bogus and therefore using the powers imposed to me by my title I consider this thread closed.

Obviously the guy who originally posted the topic had some sort of information to back up his case or hmmmmm is it just a coincidense that ESPN report on it less than 12 hours later? I think not, and I agree with the guy. Before you guys all go nuts and try to be the first one to discount him as a troll or a fraud maybe you should give it some time. Just because you haven't heard the story in your local media market doesn't mean it's not true.

[JackMagist]

This is what kills me about most message boards today. A bunch of guys who it seems have nothing better to do than try to use a little imaginative power that they supposedly have because they have the title moderator next to their name. I am moderator and I deem this thread to be bogus and therefore using the powers imposed to me by my title I consider this thread closed.

Obviously the guy who originally posted the topic had some sort of information to back up his case or hmmmmm is it just a coincidense that ESPN report on it less than 12 hours later? I think not, and I agree with the guy. Before you guys all go nuts and try to be the first one to discount him as a troll or a fraud maybe you should give it some time. Just because you haven't heard the story in your local media market doesn't mean it's not true.Brainpaint closed the other thread in accordance of clearly stated board policy. Under the circumstances and under the policy it was the right thing to do to keep THIS board what it is; a place to discuss verifiable reports from reliable sources. Check the posting policy, it is there.

[wxcpo]

Unfortunately in this case perhaps this board has a policy of requiring verifiable sources for breaking news stories. A radio broadcast that no one else heard and cannot be verified does not qualify. This is to prevent the kind of thing that happens at the ESPN board all the time with people starting rumors with completely bogus reports.

BS! If the had more than 2 posts when he posted the original topic then he wouldn't have been questioned. C'mon call a spade a spade! Nothing personal against you JakMagist, but I have seen several other members on this board say things like I just heard on the Dan Patrick show.

As I recall you did not mention that it was a radio broadcast in your original post, you just said that your source was a Maimi Harold reporter so everyone assumed it was a written article and went looking for it. When they could not find it and since you are new here and therefore have no credibility built up it was deemed to be an unverifiable rumor and the thread was closed.


I will agree this was probably the case though.

[wxcpo]

Brainpaint closed the other thread in accordance of clearly stated board policy. Under the circumstances and under the policy it was the right thing to do to keep THIS board what it is; a place to discuss verifiable reports from reliable sources. Check the posting policy, it is there.

I understand the rules, but like I said obviously the guy had the information, it was just assumed incorrectly by some board members as a written report vice a radio report. Yeah the guy should have said he heard it on a radio report, but just because he didn't doesn't mean HE didn't have verifiable information. If he had been a member for several months he would have been given the benefit of the doubt. All I'm saying is lets be a little kinder to the newbies because we all were newbies once.

[bsheeern]

Brainpaint closed the other thread in accordance of clearly stated board policy. Under the circumstances and under the policy it was the right thing to do to keep THIS board what it is; a place to discuss verifiable reports from reliable sources. Check the posting policy, it is there.
IF that policy was held up then Nors Would never, ever, ever be able to post. Ty law to Dallas?
SHould I go any further?

[bsheeern]

I understand the rules, but like I said obviously the guy had the information, it was just assumed incorrectly by some board members as a written report vice a radio report. Yeah the guy should have said he heard it on a radio report, but just because he didn't doesn't mean HE didn't have verifiable information. If he had been a member for several months he would have been given the benefit of the doubt. All I'm saying is lets be a little kinder to the newbies because we all were newbies once.
I guess we are crazy for thinking Innocent til proven guilty!

[hipfake08]

Wait till after July.
Swing a deal with the Niners in a trade.
Having Ricky give back the signing bonus money he kept.
The Niners give him a long term deal with the SB money back.
Then it works out...

What his trade value is... Is anyones guess.

[Alexander]

Not if they could work through the issues and then trade him. They are not going to get their momey back; Williams filed bankruptcy to clear that debt legally. It is still on the books as a debt in the NFL but they will never see the money so they might as well see what they can get by letting him come back and be trade bate (or play).

Not only would Miami be morons for taking him back, the team that acquires him for more than a bag of beans would be foolish as well.

The only team that would welcome him back into the league would be the Raiders. And they have Lamont Jordan right now. There is a glut of RBs in this league and if teams would not trade for Shaun Alexander, Edgerrin James and the Bills cannot give Travis Henry away, why would anyone give up anything of any substance for a noted Deadhead who abandoned his team and basically sabotaged an entire franchise for a year?

[royhitshard]

All this talk doesn't really matter considering Ricky will not pass the drug test now or in the future. I doubt very seriously if he will ever give up the tree! JMO

[jksmith269]

I understand the rules, but like I said obviously the guy had the information, it was just assumed incorrectly by some board members as a written report vice a radio report. Yeah the guy should have said he heard it on a radio report, but just because he didn't doesn't mean HE didn't have verifiable information. If he had been a member for several months he would have been given the benefit of the doubt. All I'm saying is lets be a little kinder to the newbies because we all were newbies once.


In his original post he said that Rickey had already agreed to rejoin the Dolphins not that he was intrested in it. There is a big difference there don't you agree. Rickey has said B4 he was intrested but has not come back as yet. So he wasn't correct in his original post and
He said He read it from the Miami Hereald not he heard it on ESPN Radio he didn't even Mention ESPN. The only source that had anything was Scout.com and most here don't take them as very crediable. When doing a google search yesterday on NEWS on Rickey Williams nothing was coming up. So Most assumed and Rightly so it was a bogus story because as far as I know Rickey still is Retired and hasn't joinded the Dolphins.

[JackMagist]

Not only would Miami be morons for taking him back, the team that acquires him for more than a bag of beans would be foolish as well.

The only team that would welcome him back into the league would be the Raiders. And they have Lamont Jordan right now. There is a glut of RBs in this league and if teams would not trade for Shaun Alexander, Edgerrin James and the Bills cannot give Travis Henry away, why would anyone give up anything of any substance for a noted Deadhead who abandoned his team and basically sabotaged an entire franchise for a year?That is certainly a good point about there being better options available on the market at this time and I certainly understand your point of view. And I would not want him here nor would I blame Miami or anyone else for passing on him.

But I still believe that they should be able to get a 4th for him which beats the jab in the eye with a sharp stick they get otherwise. I mean the Broncos blew a 3rd on Clarrett and look how many chances Lawrence Phillips got. It's about trying to recoup something for the investment they have in the guy, someone surely will give a 4th for Ricky Williams.

Also he would still be good insurance if the rookie goes down this year and might play himself into a position to bring a better trade. He is a rare talent at RB to be sure...I guess we will just have to wait and see.

[Sarge]

Miami would be complete morons if they took him back.

Yep - why would you tak a guy back that stabbed you in the back?

I hate Miami anyway, so if they are really that stupid, I'll actually be glad.

[GTaylor]

Didn't I post this around 7 pm est yesterday? Oh yeah, it was closed due to all of the sarcasm??? To some of the "Whizzinators" in this forum that know everything, "be easy next time":mad: I thought this forum was for all COWBOYS fan to share "sports"news of interest???? Seems like we have more moderators than users/posters! To all of the true fans in this forum, "No Offense"!

And to those wondering, Ricky will be required to serve a four game suspension once he's reinstated! So he'll probably suit up around October. Saban will get critizize for accepting him back, but actually, it's not a bad move! By the way, I'm not a first time poster nor an AGENT! Just a true COWBOYS / Sports fanatic that lives in Dolphin land (5 minutes from their training facility).

In all fairness Brainpaint did mention that he was closing the thread until they had a link to go with. It's nothing against you, just that in the off-season we had about a billion Howard rumor threads and in 99% of them there was nothing to base it on, and they all turned out to be nothing more than a rumor, in which case everyone got worked up/angry, etc.

BTW - Which station does sports in Miami, I haven't been there since 2000 but I know John Renshaw is no longer there, is Hammering Hank still doing radio?

[Alexander]

That is certainly a good point about there being better options available on the market at this time and I certainly understand your point of view. And I would not want him here nor would I blame Miami or anyone else for passing on him.

But I still believe that they should be able to get a 4th for him which beats the jab in the eye with a sharp stick they get otherwise. I mean the Broncos blew a 3rd on Clarrett and look how many chances Lawrence Phillips got. It's about trying to recoup something for the investment they have in the guy, someone surely will give a 4th for Ricky Williams.

Also he would still be good insurance if the rookie goes down this year and might play himself into a position to bring a better trade. He is a rare talent at RB to be sure...I guess we will just have to wait and see.

If I were a General Manager, I would not give up anything for him.

Talented or not, the risk is terrible. You risk a public relations nightmare and an immediate distraction from the second he signs his contract. And given Williams' unstable mental history, how long would you wager that he stays away from the happy grass when the media are dogging him?

I just don't see any way he can just step back into the league and not cause a major distruption on whatever team he goes to.

[distinguished22]

LeBastard has a daily show from 3 to 7 pm on AM 790 (The Ticket)! Like I said before, it had been reported since a week after the draft that Ricky would eventually rejoin the Phins after serving his suspension! Yesterday afternoon, LeBastard stated that his insider from the Herald & Dolphins camp in Davie had confirmed that Ricky would rejoin in July. I don't really care if he signs or not, because I despise the Dolphins & I enjoyed seeing them getting screwed last year.

I've followed Ricky since his days at UT & I don't think he's one of bad character. A little confused, but... I've met the cat several times on South Beach & he's straight!

In summary, the post was submitted with the intent of being HUMOROUS (Puff-Puff-Pass...) That's why I didn't bother including any sound links/reference! I didn't think I had to have the credibility of a "BrownSugar" to submit a funny/irrelevant post in this forum. So like it was said, SOME of the senior members & moderator need to relax a little and show some flexibility. Thoroughly review the content and intent of a post with an open mind before ... With that in mind, I'll sign off! Thanks again to those of you that feel me.