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Kittymama
05-23-2005, 08:01 AM
Aargh!!!! After having my dish with absolutely no problems for over a year (& having filled out all the requisite paperwork), my apartment complex suddenly "discovered" that where some of us have our dishes isn't acceptable. (I have no doubt Comcast is behind it & is paying them a kickback for every one of us forced to give up our DTV--given that it's the largest apartment-rental company in the area & every day someone new gets a dish.)

So that means I can't get Sunday Ticket or Fox Sports Southwest.

Are there any DC-area board members who have DTV & would be willing to tape "Southwest Sports Report" during TC & the season--& tape the games (& Cowboys Huddle when it's carried)? I'm about ready to shoot myself. Seriously, if it wasn't for the fact that I want to move to Miami in about a year, I would turn in my notice today & move to another place in a heartbeat.

lspain1
05-23-2005, 08:12 AM
Aargh!!!! After having my dish with absolutely no problems for over a year (& having filled out all the requisite paperwork), my apartment complex suddenly "discovered" that where some of us have our dishes isn't acceptable. (I have no doubt Comcast is behind it & is paying them a kickback for every one of us forced to give up our DTV--given that it's the largest apartment-rental company in the area & every day someone new gets a dish.)

So that means I can't get Sunday Ticket or Fox Sports Southwest.

Are there any DC-area board members who have DTV & would be willing to tape "Southwest Sports Report" during TC & the season--& tape the games (& Cowboys Huddle when it's carried)? I'm about ready to shoot myself. Seriously, if it wasn't for the fact that I want to move to Miami in about a year, I would turn in my notice today & move to another place in a heartbeat.

Kitty,

You have rights in this area. Federal satellite reception laws place limitations on the ability of apartments to force you to remove "reasonable" installations. I would do some research before you give in to the situation. I don't know your circumstances but ask some questions before pressing the panic button.

dbair1967
05-23-2005, 08:20 AM
Kitty,

You have rights in this area. Federal satellite reception laws place limitations on the ability of apartments to force you to remove "reasonable" installations. I would do some research before you give in to the situation. I don't know your circumstances but ask some questions before pressing the panic button.

I agree...definitely do your homework on this...unless you have it mounted directly to the building (ie, the wall) or the roof then there isnt much they can do to prevent you from having it

David

Yeagermeister
05-23-2005, 08:24 AM
I work for an apartment company and we allow people to have a dish but it just can't be attached to the building but that is just our policy.

Spontae
05-23-2005, 08:34 AM
When I was renting a condo, the restriction applied re: no attachments to the building for satellite. So, being the inventive type, I went to Home Depot and purchased three items: one plastic outdoor flower pot (about a foot and a half diameter), one standard six-foot aluminum fence pole and one bag of quick-dry cement. Cement the pole into the center of the flower pot, let it dry, then fasten your dish to the top of the pole in your backyard and point it at the southern sky (run the wire inside through an available window screen.) Works fine. Good luck.

Kittymama
05-23-2005, 08:55 AM
The dish is attached to the railing. I had to submit a drawing showing where it would be attached. AND sign an addendum that clearly said they are allowed to be attached to railings. Now they're changing it, but they can't seem to make up their mind as to why. On the notice they sent out, they were claiming it was for aesthetic reasons (altho they didn't mind it for over a year). When I called, tho, they were saying it's for insurance purposes, & the dish can be on the railing but only if it were to fall that it would fall on to our balcony--meaning nothing allowed to overhang the railing. Mine does overhang the railing, altho it's still within the confines of the overall balcony.

Anyone know where I could look to find more info.? As I said, I have a strong suspicion Comcast is paying them some sort of kickback on this. I live in a heavily minority community, & my experience has been that landlords (& other businesses) pull a lot of crap in this county because they think the residents either don't know enough to fight back or are afraid to.

Sportsbabe
05-23-2005, 09:04 AM
You have rights in this area. Federal satellite reception laws place limitations on the ability of apartments to force you to remove "reasonable" installations. I would do some research before you give in to the situation.

I ran into the same situation last year when I was planning on moving to a new complex. They said I couldn't put up a dish. A poster provided me a link to an FCC site that had the laws for satellite installation/possession. I printed the info but I don't know the link. I can fax it to you if you like. If you follow these guidelines, no one can premit you from installing a dish.

djmajestik
05-23-2005, 09:05 AM
When I was renting a condo, the restriction applied re: no attachments to the building for satellite. So, being the inventive type, I went to Home Depot and purchased three items: one plastic outdoor flower pot (about a foot and a half diameter), one standard six-foot aluminum fence pole and one bag of quick-dry cement. Cement the pole into the center of the flower pot, let it dry, then fasten your dish to the top of the pole in your backyard and point it at the southern sky (run the wire inside through an available window screen.) Works fine. Good luck.

I did the same thing in mine when my old place did this to me. WOrked beautifully, although you need to see the southern portion of the sky from your balcony.

Kittymama
05-23-2005, 09:15 AM
Unforunately, I just looked at the FCC site--& it does say that dishes which overhang a "common area" (which I think mine does) can be prohibited. That's how the complex has decided to suddenly define dishes like mine. I remember that the installer was barely able to get me line of site because of where I'm located. I'm going to have them come & see if they can move the dish, but I'm afraid it probably isn't going to work.

So back to the question--anyone from the DC area who gets NFL Sunday Ticket?

Smith22
05-23-2005, 09:30 AM
I'm closer to Bmore, but I don't subscribe to the FoxSports channels.

ghettogandhi
05-23-2005, 09:40 AM
Unforunately, I just looked at the FCC site--& it does say that dishes which overhang a "common area" (which I think mine does) can be prohibited. That's how the complex has decided to suddenly define dishes like mine. I remember that the installer was barely able to get me line of site because of where I'm located. I'm going to have them come & see if they can move the dish, but I'm afraid it probably isn't going to work.

So back to the question--anyone from the DC area who gets NFL Sunday Ticket?

if Im not mistaken I believe a change in the terms of the lease also gives the leasee the opportunity to void the lease- if that is the case I would void your lease and move to another apmt either in the same complex or another-

by the way where do you live- I live in Prince Georges County and this sounds like the sort of thing that happens here- also what complex- is it southern mngmt cause it sounds like them?

BrAinPaiNt
05-23-2005, 10:22 AM
Aargh!!!! After having my dish with absolutely no problems for over a year (& having filled out all the requisite paperwork), my apartment complex suddenly "discovered" that where some of us have our dishes isn't acceptable. (I have no doubt Comcast is behind it & is paying them a kickback for every one of us forced to give up our DTV--given that it's the largest apartment-rental company in the area & every day someone new gets a dish.)

So that means I can't get Sunday Ticket or Fox Sports Southwest.

Are there any DC-area board members who have DTV & would be willing to tape "Southwest Sports Report" during TC & the season--& tape the games (& Cowboys Huddle when it's carried)? I'm about ready to shoot myself. Seriously, if it wasn't for the fact that I want to move to Miami in about a year, I would turn in my notice today & move to another place in a heartbeat.


They are taking it away because you are a bad girl and make too much noise and break too many things on sundays. ;)

k19
05-23-2005, 10:24 AM
They are taking it away because you are a bad girl and make too much noise and break too many things on sundays. ;)

:lmao:

If that was the case people who be losing it by the thousands, myself included :D

Dough Boy
05-23-2005, 10:27 AM
Aargh!!!! After having my dish with absolutely no problems for over a year (& having filled out all the requisite paperwork), my apartment complex suddenly "discovered" that where some of us have our dishes isn't acceptable. (I have no doubt Comcast is behind it & is paying them a kickback for every one of us forced to give up our DTV--given that it's the largest apartment-rental company in the area & every day someone new gets a dish.)

So that means I can't get Sunday Ticket or Fox Sports Southwest.

Are there any DC-area board members who have DTV & would be willing to tape "Southwest Sports Report" during TC & the season--& tape the games (& Cowboys Huddle when it's carried)? I'm about ready to shoot myself. Seriously, if it wasn't for the fact that I want to move to Miami in about a year, I would turn in my notice today & move to another place in a heartbeat.

I'm in the area and have Direct TV and TiVo...

Below is the distinction of what you may be experiencing.

If the tenant has an area where they have "exclusive use and control", such as a balcony or patio, they may place a dish there. (Fire escapes and the exterior of windows on the side of a building where there are no balconies are NOT areas of "exclusive use and control"; roofs and yards are not either in most cases, but could be in fee-simple townhome situations and in the case of rented single-family homes.) The landlord certainly reserves the right to forbid the tenant from drilling holes into the wall or otherwise damaging the structure, but may certainly allow the tenant to do so if they so choose; the landlord may also require that a dish be placed where it has minimum visual impact IF it won't affect reception.

- If the tenant does NOT have an area where they have "exclusive use or control" (faces the wrong way, etc.), the landlord doesn't have to allow the installation of a dish at all.

k19
05-23-2005, 10:33 AM
Quit being such a bandwagon fan KM. A real fan would tell management to shove it and buy a house just so they could watch the beloved Boys. Its a small expense to view greatness :D

ChrisZ007
05-23-2005, 11:08 AM
Unforunately, I just looked at the FCC site--& it does say that dishes which overhang a "common area" (which I think mine does) can be prohibited. That's how the complex has decided to suddenly define dishes like mine. I remember that the installer was barely able to get me line of site because of where I'm located. I'm going to have them come & see if they can move the dish, but I'm afraid it probably isn't going to work.

So back to the question--anyone from the DC area who gets NFL Sunday Ticket?

I get it and Im close by Kitty, I actually work in DC and live in Fredericksburg. Let me know what you need taped and I'll see what I can do.

Yeagermeister
05-23-2005, 11:10 AM
Transfer to a different apt that has a clear view of the southern sky :D

Cowboys22
05-23-2005, 11:32 AM
Just mount it on a pole and pull it back a few feet from the railing. It will still work perfectly unless it can't be pointed in the right direction from the new location.

chargrove
05-23-2005, 11:46 AM
I live in a heavily minority community, & my experience has been that landlords (& other businesses) pull a lot of crap in this county because they think the residents either don't know enough to fight back or are afraid to.
Uh...move. Seriously.

Charles
05-23-2005, 11:47 AM
I'm in the area and have Direct TV and TiVo...

Below is the distinction of what you may be experiencing.

If the tenant has an area where they have "exclusive use and control", such as a balcony or patio, they may place a dish there. (Fire escapes and the exterior of windows on the side of a building where there are no balconies are NOT areas of "exclusive use and control"; roofs and yards are not either in most cases, but could be in fee-simple townhome situations and in the case of rented single-family homes.) The landlord certainly reserves the right to forbid the tenant from drilling holes into the wall or otherwise damaging the structure, but may certainly allow the tenant to do so if they so choose; the landlord may also require that a dish be placed where it has minimum visual impact IF it won't affect reception.

- If the tenant does NOT have an area where they have "exclusive use or control" (faces the wrong way, etc.), the landlord doesn't have to allow the installation of a dish at all.

Kittymama, I had the same problem with my previous LandLord. My advice is present the above statement in bold to your LandLord and let him know that you can place a Satelite Dish on the Balcony and use a bucket with cement to hold up the dish. It worked fine for me and even hurricane Isabella couldn't affect my signal a couple of years ago.

Richmond Cowboy
05-23-2005, 11:55 AM
I have had DirecTV for over 10 years now and at one point I lived in an apartment complex right after college where dishes were not allowed. Believe it or not I mounted the dish onto the wooden armrest of an old salvation army sofa which was adjacent to a large sliding glass door. Much to my amazement we were able to get a full signal even with curtains drawn! Imagine what a conversation piece! Obviously we were lucky to have a large glass door with southwestern exposure and no overhang but nevertheless don't give up so easily. Where there's a will (and creativity) there's a way.

notherbob
05-23-2005, 12:43 PM
I don't have cable or satellite but I have a friend who does and he put the dish in his attic and got great reception. It would seem that as long as you don't have solid or screen metal between the signal and your dish, you could stash it in a closet and it ought to work. Those signals ought to travel right through non-metallic building materials. Any signal high enough in frequency to use a dish that small should be able to penetrate unless your building's insulation has metal foil on one side of it, or a metal roof; if so, you may need a southern exposure of some kind.

I spent a few years in the radio communications business a long time ago, maybe it will work, maybe it won't. Good luck to you.

MichaelWinicki
05-23-2005, 12:48 PM
Quit being such a bandwagon fan KM. A real fan would tell management to shove it and buy a house just so they could watch the beloved Boys. Its a small expense to view greatness :D


ROFLMAO!

:D

Kittymama
05-23-2005, 02:01 PM
if Im not mistaken I believe a change in the terms of the lease also gives the leasee the opportunity to void the lease- if that is the case I would void your lease and move to another apmt either in the same complex or another-

by the way where do you live- I live in Prince Georges County and this sounds like the sort of thing that happens here- also what complex- is it southern mngmt cause it sounds like them?
Sure is Southern Management! Given how big they are, I have no doubt Comcast is paying them for every one of us forced to switch.

Unfortunately, I just don't have the $$$ to move furniture & switch over phones, electricity, etc. that it takes--not if I want to stick with my goal of moving to Miami within a year.

MadCow
05-23-2005, 02:11 PM
Unforunately, I just looked at the FCC site--& it does say that dishes which overhang a "common area" (which I think mine does) can be prohibited. That's how the complex has decided to suddenly define dishes like mine. I remember that the installer was barely able to get me line of site because of where I'm located. I'm going to have them come & see if they can move the dish, but I'm afraid it probably isn't going to work.

So back to the question--anyone from the DC area who gets NFL Sunday Ticket?

I live in the area. Will do what I can to help out.

k19
05-23-2005, 02:16 PM
Sure is Southern Management! Given how big they are, I have no doubt Comcast is paying them for every one of us forced to switch.

Unfortunately, I just don't have the $$$ to move furniture & switch over phones, electricity, etc. that it takes--not if I want to stick with my goal of moving to Miami within a year.


Miami's highly over rated. High crime, high cost of living, crowded, lots of illegals and transplants from other states, not to mention all the drugs and corruption.

Oh wait you live in DC. You shouldnt notice much change outside of the climate :D You'll love it

sbuscha
05-23-2005, 02:32 PM
The statute also says you are able to dispute it through the government, and the apartment complex can not remove this dish until they make a ruling. That would take months maybe years.... I would appeal to them, at least you would have it through football season.

I am an atty, and very well versed in this area of law...

Good luck

k19
05-23-2005, 02:35 PM
The statute also says you are able to dispute it through the government, and the apartment complex can not remove this dish until they make a ruling. That would take months maybe years.... I would appeal to them, at least you would have it through football season.

I am an atty, and very well versed in this area of law...

Good luck

Why the heck not. It isnt like the government has anything better to do. Ok I take that back. If its the federal government you might interupt them trying to regulate professional sports or something equally as important to the future of our country :rolleyes:

dstew60105
05-23-2005, 02:52 PM
The dish is attached to the railing. I had to submit a drawing showing where it would be attached. AND sign an addendum that clearly said they are allowed to be attached to railings. Now they're changing it, but they can't seem to make up their mind as to why. On the notice they sent out, they were claiming it was for aesthetic reasons (altho they didn't mind it for over a year). When I called, tho, they were saying it's for insurance purposes, & the dish can be on the railing but only if it were to fall that it would fall on to our balcony--meaning nothing allowed to overhang the railing. Mine does overhang the railing, altho it's still within the confines of the overall balcony.

Anyone know where I could look to find more info.? As I said, I have a strong suspicion Comcast is paying them some sort of kickback on this. I live in a heavily minority community, & my experience has been that landlords (& other businesses) pull a lot of crap in this county because they think the residents either don't know enough to fight back or are afraid to.

As long as it's in the confines of your balcony(exclusive rights area), you can go tell them to pound sand. If they are changing the policy against rail mounting, just have it installed on a tri-pod and strap it to the rail.


Don

Trophy#6
05-23-2005, 03:41 PM
For all the 10's of 1000's of people in the same boat as this, sure makes you wonder what the hell the NFL was thinking when they gave a satallite company exclusive rights. Not to mention a remote satallite link up is nowhere as dependable as a direct land-line link that cable offers. I guess they're making up for it though in all the rural areas where cable isn't an option. Just too bad the NFL couldn't think of it's fans for once and offer it in both formats- satisfy both sides instead of splitting everyone, there's a thought. Just like this unthought matter concerning EA Sports and the video game rights. It's as if they're trying to alienate fans. This just offering 'vanilla' concept went out decades ago, someone should really tell the NFL.

And is it just me or have most of these problems started ever since Taglabeavis took over as comish?