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blindzebra
05-25-2005, 08:00 PM
We have been debating all the particulars since the last season ended so there is no need to rehash them, but what would all you consider a success/failure?

For me, success would mean the young guys all take the next step, our rookies make the team and contribute, and we are in every game.

Failure would be that the vets we signed prove to be like Vinny, EG, and Wiley and Parcells holds onto the best chance to win stance he took last year and we lose without building for the future.

Realistically, I think we are still one year away. We should be better in November than we are in September and with another solid offseason we will be back where we below, on top of the NFC and in the hunt for #6.

RoyWbringsPain
05-25-2005, 08:01 PM
I will consider this season a sucess if at the end of it, we are legit contenders for the 06 season

dargonking999
05-25-2005, 08:02 PM
I will consider this season success when we get to the SB, so yeas this year will be a sucess:D

dargonking999
05-25-2005, 08:03 PM
I will consider this season a sucess if at the end of it, we are legit contenders for the 06 season

:welcome:

welcome to the forum have fun

Duane
05-25-2005, 08:04 PM
I will consider this season a sucess if at the end of it, we are legit contenders for the 06 season
:welcome:

blindzebra
05-25-2005, 08:05 PM
I will consider this season a sucess if at the end of it, we are legit contenders for the 06 season

Good first post, since it agrees with me.:D

Welcome!

Hostile
05-25-2005, 08:13 PM
We have been debating all the particulars since the last season ended so there is no need to rehash them, but what would all you consider a success/failure?

For me, success would mean the young guys all take the next step, our rookies make the team and contribute, and we are in every game.

Failure would be that the vets we signed prove to be like Vinny, EG, and Wiley and Parcells holds onto the best chance to win stance he took last year and we lose without building for the future.

Realistically, I think we are still one year away. We should be better in November than we are in September and with another solid offseason we will be back where we below, on top of the NFC and in the hunt for #6.1. We need to score more points than last year, and I'm not talking about 5 or 10 points. We need to score. I'd like to see 350 points or more.

2. We need to allow fewer points. By a lot. A return to 2003 PPG standards would be very nice.

3. We need to pressure the opposing QB into sacks and TO's. I really don't want to see another sub 40 sack year. I'd like to see actual harrassment.

4. We need to log at least 10 wins and a playoff spot so that we are building towards something great. No baby steps please. Let's make up some ground on the leaders.

diehard2294
05-25-2005, 08:18 PM
I will be happy with a 10-6 or 9-7,and a playoff spot :D but I just want the team to stay healthy and these young guys to produce and provide some hope for the future. That being said I believe we are 2yrs away from really contending.

Payton34Smith22
05-25-2005, 08:22 PM
I will be happy with a 10-6 or 9-7,and a playoff spot :D but I just want the team to stay healthy and these young guys to produce and provide some hope for the future. That being said I believe we are 2yrs away from really contending.

What he said!

Wolverine
05-25-2005, 08:35 PM
Here is my thoughts.


1. If we can 9-7 or better. And finish the season strong.

2. If our big 4 picks in the draft this year Ware Spears Canty and Burnett all really show great potential and learn fast.

3. If we can take at least 1 of the 2 games with Philly this year.

4. Rob Pettiti gettin down to 330 to 325 lbs and lookin like he is our RT of the future.

5. A-Train bein a big help to the offense. With the better OL here in Dallas hopefully that is all he needs to become a very good RB for this team.

6. Drew Henson gets nuff game time to show if he will be our future or not.

7. Drew Bledsoe bein named comeback player of the year.

MichaelWinicki
05-25-2005, 08:40 PM
We have been debating all the particulars since the last season ended so there is no need to rehash them, but what would all you consider a success/failure?

For me, success would mean the young guys all take the next step, our rookies make the team and contribute, and we are in every game.

Failure would be that the vets we signed prove to be like Vinny, EG, and Wiley and Parcells holds onto the best chance to win stance he took last year and we lose without building for the future.

Realistically, I think we are still one year away. We should be better in November than we are in September and with another solid offseason we will be back where we below, on top of the NFC and in the hunt for #6.


I agree. I think we're a year away too. The sad thing is that we're probably going to be breaking in a new starting QB in '06 which may even push our ultimate potential off for another year. I don't think Bledsoe will be the starter next season.

MichaelWinicki
05-25-2005, 08:41 PM
1. We need to score more points than last year, and I'm not talking about 5 or 10 points. We need to score. I'd like to see 350 points or more.

2. We need to allow fewer points. By a lot. A return to 2003 PPG standards would be very nice.

3. We need to pressure the opposing QB into sacks and TO's. I really don't want to see another sub 40 sack year. I'd like to see actual harrassment.

4. We need to log at least 10 wins and a playoff spot so that we are building towards something great. No baby steps please. Let's make up some ground on the leaders.

350 points?

Is that over two seasons?

blindzebra
05-25-2005, 08:48 PM
I agree. I think we're a year away too. The sad thing is that we're probably going to be breaking in a new starting QB in '06 which may even push our ultimate potential off for another year. I don't think Bledsoe will be the starter next season.

This team is being built to win with a young QB, we are following the Roethlisberger blueprints.;)

MichaelWinicki
05-25-2005, 08:52 PM
This team is being built to win with a young QB, we are following the Roethlisberger blueprints.;)


Well it would be nice if a young QB got to play some this year. :)

RoysAHitta
05-25-2005, 08:52 PM
i just want to see a team that has a chance to win every game they play, no blow outs against good teams. i dont mind losing a tough close game but its embarassing to get beat how we have been.

jksmith269
05-25-2005, 09:40 PM
I will consider this season a sucess if at the end of it, we are legit contenders for the 06 season
Good response and :welcome:

I say 10-6 and win a playoff game

WoodysGirl
05-25-2005, 09:43 PM
i just want to see a team that has a chance to win every game they play, no blow outs against good teams. i dont mind losing a tough close game but its embarassing to get beat how we have been.Actually that doesn't sound too unreasonable. Granted I want all the vet players to perform better than last year, the FAs to prove their worth, and the rookies to be solid players, if not game changers. Mainly, I want us to be competitive in every game to where we're playing for something all the way to the end and not make the QBs we're going up against look like league MVPs.

My ultimate homer wish:
Win the NFC East :)

:skins: :iggles: :jints:

Doomsday101
05-26-2005, 09:14 AM
For the Cowboys a successful season is a return to post season play.

ABQCOWBOY
05-26-2005, 09:31 AM
I look at this team and I see a new QB, a new defensive scheme, lots of young players and I feel like a playoff run is a bit much. Can it happen? Sure, but I'm not setting expectations as such.

In my opinion, a successful season would be one in which we defined roles and established indentity. I would consider it a success if we implemented the 34 and exectuted assignments correctly. If we significantly reduced our penalties and had a plus TO ratio. Basically, if all our young guys and vets showed up to play with there heads in the game, everybody on the same page. If we can do that, I think the winning will take care of itself.

Everlastingxxx
05-26-2005, 09:47 AM
I will consider this season success when we get to the SB, so yeas this year will be a sucess:D

I agree with the first half of that sentence.

We will not be content with a wild card berth.
We are not the Eagles, satisfied to lose 3 Championships and a Super Bowl!
We cannot be happy with anything less than a 6th Super Bowl trophie!

We are the Dallas Cowboys! :lombardi:

Hoov
05-26-2005, 09:52 AM
1. We need to score more points than last year, and I'm not talking about 5 or 10 points. We need to score. I'd like to see 350 points or more.

2. We need to allow fewer points. By a lot. A return to 2003 PPG standards would be very nice.

3. We need to pressure the opposing QB into sacks and TO's. I really don't want to see another sub 40 sack year. I'd like to see actual harrassment.

4. We need to log at least 10 wins and a playoff spot so that we are building towards something great. No baby steps please. Let's make up some ground on the leaders.

Good post Hos, think that pretty much covers it.

PeeKZ_333
05-26-2005, 10:56 AM
350 points?

Is that over two seasons?


Thats only about 22 pts/game over 16 games

can happen

LeonDixson
05-26-2005, 11:26 AM
Here is my thoughts.


1. If we can 9-7 or better. And finish the season strong.

2. If our big 4 picks in the draft this year Ware Spears Canty and Burnett all really show great potential and learn fast.

3. If we can take at least 1 of the 2 games with Philly this year.

4. Rob Pettiti gettin down to 330 to 325 lbs and lookin like he is our RT of the future.

5. A-Train bein a big help to the offense. With the better OL here in Dallas hopefully that is all he needs to become a very good RB for this team.

6. Drew Henson gets nuff game time to show if he will be our future or not.

7. Drew Bledsoe bein named comeback player of the year.


Good list, Wolverine. No. 7 doesn't have to happen for me. If he just holds up his end, I'm happy.

kartr
05-26-2005, 12:05 PM
If Bledsoe gets hurt, forcing Henson to play most of the season, then go like 2-12 with Henson as the starter, then draft a WR in round one next year and QB in round two, it will be a successful season.

Hoov
05-26-2005, 12:09 PM
If Bledsoe gets hurt, forcing Henson to play most of the season, then go like 2-12 with Henson as the starter, then draft a WR in round one next year and QB in round two, it will be a successful season.

uhhh NO, i think your kidding though. I would never want to see a poor season just to get a higher draft pick. that draft pick could have a season ending/carrer ending injury right off the bat, or be a bust. look at the browns and Winslow, they havent got anything really out of him.

WoodysGirl
05-26-2005, 12:12 PM
If Bledsoe gets hurt, forcing Henson to play most of the season, then go like 2-12 with Henson as the starter, then draft a WR in round one next year and QB in round two, it will be a successful season.So you would consider the season a success if Bledsoe went down? I can understand wanting Henson to start, but I wouldn't wish an injury upon a Cowboy player, nor would I wish us to go 2-12 either. I understand you consider your perspective to be "realistic" but how do you root against a member of the Cowboys, even Bledsoe? Makes no sense to me.

WV Cowboy
05-26-2005, 12:34 PM
1. We need to score more points than last year, and I'm not talking about 5 or 10 points. We need to score. I'd like to see 350 points or more.

I'm thinking you must have meant 350 total, but that reads like you want 350 more than last season.

laythewood28
05-26-2005, 12:54 PM
getting past the first round in the playoffs would be a huge success.

AsthmaField
05-26-2005, 01:19 PM
For me to consider this year a success has little to do with our record. I think if the things happen that I want to see happen, our record will be a positive one.

We don't have to win the super bowl this year for me to consider it a success. Just show steady improvement in key areas and show a growth pattern that points towards a powerful team.

Like in 1991 for instance. We go knocked out of the playoffs pretty early, but you could just tell that we were a young team on the rise with nothing but good things on the horizon. By the time 1992 rolled around, everyone knew the Cowboys were a team to be reckoned with. That's what I want. Almost more than going all the way this year.

It just seems like a team that builds slowly toward the super bowl seems to stay there longer once they reach the top than if they are a worst to best type team.

I'd like to see:

A number of our rookies play very well and look like we got a few future stars.

Some of the young offensive linemen really start to come on.

Julius to continue his torrid pace that he set in last season's second half.

Crayton continue to progress and look like we have a real good player at WR.

The 3-4 implementation go smoothly and the combination of new scheme and personnel create a pressure defense like we haven't had in a long time.

Bledsoe manage the games and not make game changing mistakes.

Henry, Ferguson and Rivera play up to their contracts.

And, Roy Williams be allowed to roam ner the line of scrimmage and play like he did his rookie season.

Hostile
05-26-2005, 01:46 PM
If Bledsoe gets hurt, forcing Henson to play most of the season, then go like 2-12 with Henson as the starter, then draft a WR in round one next year and QB in round two, it will be a successful season.Troll alert.

Don't feed the troll.

Hostile
05-26-2005, 01:47 PM
I'm thinking you must have meant 350 total, but that reads like you want 350 more than last season.I did mean 350 for the year not 350 over last year.

kartr
05-26-2005, 02:53 PM
So you would consider the season a success if Bledsoe went down? I can understand wanting Henson to start, but I wouldn't wish an injury upon a Cowboy player, nor would I wish us to go 2-12 either. I understand you consider your perspective to be "realistic" but how do you root against a member of the Cowboys, even Bledsoe? Makes no sense to me.

I didn't say I wished Bledsoe to get hurt. I don't want to see any player get hurt, not even TO. But if he did get hurt, it could benefit us more in the long run, because everyone would get their wish to see Henson play sooner than later. Bledsoe being here is delaying progress. I don't think our defense will gel over night with the new scheme and new players;too much change,no continuity. Many want to see Henson play right now cause they think he is the future;Parcells doesn't think he's ready yet and he's right. I don't think Henson is the future and the sooner we find out,the better. It will take our defense at least a year in this new scheme anyway, so why not find out about Henson now and if he's not the answer, then we'd be able to go and get a true NFL ready QB in the draft.
That's what Pittsburgh did;their O-line and defense were already in place when they got BIg Ben, all Ben had to do was drive the bus. My worry is that if Bledsoe stays here 3 years and we don't win and Henson is still not ready in 2008, we'll have wasted 3-4 years waiting for a project QB to develop only to find out we guessed wrong. Where is the backup plan in case Henson doesn't develop. We got Hutchinson in case Carter didn't develop and we got Henson in case Carter didn't deveop, so when is the time to get a QB in case Henson doesn't develop. We can't just wait 2-3 years to see what he does because their may not be anyone suitable every year. I think that's why Buffalo got Losman when they did, because they didn't like next years prospects and why Washington pulled the trigger on Jason Campbell so early.

Seven
05-26-2005, 02:54 PM
I would just like to see the co-hesion(sp?) with this team again. I want to see them doing football like it's supposed to be done. I want the entire offense running to the end zone on a score like they once did. I want them coming out of the huddles with a spring in their step, looking ready for anything, like they used to. I want a pass play where I do not have to hold my breath hoping someone with a star on their helmet makes a play. I want the hungry guys we had here at one time. I want to see them having fun cause they KNOW they are good at what they do. I want to see that "bring it" attitude again. I want their confidence level max'ed at all times no matter the situation. If we can do that then it will be successful IMO.

kartr
05-26-2005, 02:59 PM
Troll alert.

Don't feed the troll.

What do you mean by that?

blindzebra
05-26-2005, 03:00 PM
I didn't say I wished Bledsoe to get hurt. I don't want to see any player get hurt, not even TO. But if he did get hurt, it could benefit us more in the long run, because everyone would get their wish to see Henson play sooner than later. Bledsoe being here is delaying progress. I don't think our defense will gel over night with the new scheme and new players;too much change,no continuity. Many want to see Henson play right now cause they think he is the future;Parcells doesn't think he's ready yet and he's right. I don't think Henson is the future and the sooner we find out,the better. It will take our defense at least a year in this new scheme anyway, so why not find out about Henson now and if he's not the answer, then we'd be able to go and get a true NFL ready QB in the draft.
That's what Pittsburgh did;their O-line and defense were already in place when they got BIg Ben, all Ben had to do was drive the bus. My worry is that if Bledsoe stays here 3 years and we don't win and Henson is still not ready in 2008, we'll have wasted 3-4 years waiting for a project QB to develop only to find out we guessed wrong. Where is the backup plan in case Henson doesn't develop. We got Hutchinson in case Carter didn't develop and we got Henson in case Carter didn't deveop, so when is the time to get a QB in case Henson doesn't develop. We can't just wait 2-3 years to see what he does because their may not be anyone suitable every year. I think that's why Buffalo got Losman when they did, because they didn't like next years prospects and why Washington pulled the trigger on Jason Campbell so early.

A rookie drafted is NFL ready? Yeah, that's a proven fact, kinda like 8 out of 10, right?:rolleyes:

Mike 1967
05-26-2005, 03:00 PM
A defense that shows the ability to dictate a game.

A defense that does not get over powered and pushed around.

An 8-8 or better season with heavy rookie involvement

Beating Philadelphia at least once and being competitive in both games

some positive signs from Romo or Henson in real game situations

Continued output from Julius on par with where he left off last year....and also for him to complete the season without a missing time due to injury.

Consistent pass rush.

RoyWbringsPain
05-26-2005, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the Welcomes


Its nice to be apreciated :)

JackMagist
05-26-2005, 03:25 PM
I think this season will be a success if we can get to the playoffs and win at least one game. That would tell me that we are contenders. Just making the Wildcard round and going out in the first round tells me nothing; a lot of crap teams make the Wildcard round.

TX Cowboy
05-26-2005, 04:09 PM
That's easy what we have won so many times before a Lombardi trophy
I can't see anything less then that being called success, cause in reality anything less then winning the super bowl is not success but failure so the only way I call 2005 a success is if Bill and his Cowboys are raising that beautiful silver trophy declaring ultimate victory

lane
05-26-2005, 04:21 PM
That's easy what we have won so many times before a Lombardi trophy
I can't see anything less then that being called success, cause in reality anything less then winning the super bowl is not success but failure so the only way I call 2005 a success is if Bill and his Cowboys are raising that beautiful silver trophy declaring ultimate victory

in the watered down nfc, we have as much a chance to hoist that trophy as any one else brother. great post!

we'll just have to go through peyton to get it.

Everlastingxxx
05-26-2005, 04:53 PM
That's easy what we have won so many times before a Lombardi trophy
I can't see anything less then that being called success, cause in reality anything less then winning the super bowl is not success but failure so the only way I call 2005 a success is if Bill and his Cowboys are raising that beautiful silver trophy declaring ultimate victory

Yup. I have never thought after a playoff loss "wow, this season was a success...at least we got to the playoffs." After we lost to Carolina, i didn't ponder about how wonderful and successful our season was. I thought about 10 victories wasted. After we lost to San Fran in the Championship, i didn't jump for joy about how far we got. I hope Dallas players don't think success means getting better. Since we beat Pittsburgh in Arizona, we have not had a successful season. Just my 1¢.

TX Cowboy
05-26-2005, 04:56 PM
in the watered down nfc, we have as much a chance to hoist that trophy as any one else brother. great post!

we'll just have to go through peyton to get it.

I agree we have as much chance as anyone else our history dictates that
we will hoist that trophy again so aim for the stars and settle for nothing
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Wolverine
05-26-2005, 04:59 PM
I agree with the first half of that sentence.

We will not be content with a wild card berth.
We are not the Eagles, satisfied to lose 3 Championships and a Super Bowl!
We cannot be happy with anything less than a 6th Super Bowl trophie!

We are the Dallas Cowboys! :lombardi:


Comin off of a 6-10 season and goin 9-7 would be good. When your 6-10 and go to havin a winning season that is something to be happy about. If we go 9-7 or better maybe then we can talk about #6. But then again I have alot more time then you do to get to see the Boys win #6 and more.





If Bledsoe gets hurt, forcing Henson to play most of the season, then go like 2-12 with Henson as the starter, then draft a WR in round one next year and QB in round two, it will be a successful season.


If Bledsoe does get hurt and Henson comes in and goes 12-2 and leads us to the playoffs. Would you agree to never post in this forum again. I hope so.


:moon:

Banned_n_austin
05-26-2005, 05:05 PM
A winning season.

TX Cowboy
05-26-2005, 05:07 PM
Yup. I have never thought after a playoff loss "wow, this season was a success...at least we got to the playoffs." After we lost to Carolina, i didn't ponder about how wonderful and successful our season was. I thought about 10 victories wasted. After we lost to San Fran in the Championship, i didn't jump for joy about how far we got. I hope Dallas players don't think success means getting better. Since we beat Pittsburgh in Arizona, we have not had a successful season. Just my 1¢.

Amen brother

kartr
05-26-2005, 05:08 PM
A rookie drafted is NFL ready? Yeah, that's a proven fact, kinda like 8 out of 10, right?:rolleyes:

The translation is More NFL ready than Henson(See Rothlisberger,Manning,Rivers,Losman,Leftwich,Carr, Harrington and even our former bus-driver QB got on the field for substantial playing time as rookies).
Almost any rookie QB drafted on day one this year and maybe a couple from day two are more NFL ready than Henson because they've been playing football for the last 3 years. If Bledsoe goes down, I bet Parcells gets Vinny in here in 24 hours and who knows, maybe he'll bring him back mid-way during training camp after he sees what he's got here aint gonna cut it.

Banned_n_austin
05-26-2005, 05:14 PM
A defense that shows the ability to dictate a game.

A defense that does not get over powered and pushed around.

An 8-8 or better season with heavy rookie involvement

Beating Philadelphia at least once and being competitive in both games

some positive signs from Romo or Henson in real game situations

Continued output from Julius on par with where he left off last year....and also for him to complete the season without a missing time due to injury.

Consistent pass rush.

This works for me ... but I want more than an 8-8 season and I want playoffs so the rookies get a taste of post season play. Thus, having some experience for 2006

blindzebra
05-26-2005, 05:15 PM
The translation is More NFL ready than Henson(See Rothlisberger,Manning,Rivers,Losman,Leftwich,Carr, Harrington and even our former bus-driver QB got on the field for substantial playing time as rookies).
Almost any rookie QB drafted on day one this year and maybe a couple from day two are more NFL ready than Henson because they've been playing football for the last 3 years. If Bledsoe goes down, I bet Parcells gets Vinny in here in 24 hours and who knows, maybe he'll bring him back mid-way during training camp after he sees what he's got here aint gonna cut it.

Rivers and Losman did not play any more than Henson as a rookie, neither did Carson Palmer, Chad Pennington, Daunte Culpepper...see where this is going.

Go back and look up Quincy's first game stats, while you are at it. On second thought you better not, since you'd only make up the stats anyway.:rolleyes:

Mike 1967
05-26-2005, 05:16 PM
This works for me ... but I want more than an 8-8 season and I want playoffs so the rookies get a taste of post season play. Thus, having some experience for 2006

Me to !!!!

But I am worried about the number of rookies on our team.

playoffs would be nice. I don't see a SB.

But I am mostly tired of being owned by the Eagles. Very tired

kartr
05-26-2005, 05:56 PM
Rivers and Losman did not play any more than Henson as a rookie, neither did Carson Palmer, Chad Pennington, Daunte Culpepper...see where this is going.

Go back and look up Quincy's first game stats, while you are at it. On second thought you better not, since you'd only make up the stats anyway.:rolleyes:

Lookup Quincy's stats against the Giants as a rookie and the playoff bound 9'ers as a rookie and compare those to Henson's. Quincy's first game was against a playoff calibre team in Tampa Bay. No one cares about how a rookie plays in his first game anyway,everyone usually understands that those games do not reflect how their careers will go. My stats come from NFL.COM, and ESPN.COM. If you don't agree with my stats, then you don't agree with the stats that everyone else uses.Those other QB's you mentioned, could have played, they just weren't needed. Why so sensitive about Henson anyway, he hasn't done anything for this team and more than likely won't ever. In fact, he won't last as long as Hutch did.

blindzebra
05-26-2005, 06:05 PM
Lookup Quincy's stats against the Giants as a rookie and the playoff bound 9'ers as a rookie and compare those to Henson's. Quincy's first game was against a playoff calibre team in Tampa Bay. No one cares about how a rookie plays in his first game anyway,everyone usually understands that those games do not reflect how their careers will go. My stats come from NFL.COM, and ESPN.COM. If you don't agree with my stats, then you don't agree with the stats that everyone else uses.Those other QB's you mentioned, could have played, they just weren't needed. Why so sensitive about Henson anyway, he hasn't done anything for this team and more than likely won't ever. In fact, he won't last as long as Hutch did.

So you can judge Henson based on his first start, but Carter gets a pass for being a rookie?

FYI, 6-6 and a TD against a playoff caliber team.

Why so anti-Henson?

Why so sensitive about Carter?

Why are you so hypocritical?

As for stats, I went to NFL.com and the top 10 pass defenses in 2003 had FIVE Cowboy opponents, yet you claimed Carter played against 8 of 10, hmmm.

He also only had ONE good game against those FIVE teams.

Wolverine
05-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Lookup Quincy's stats against the Giants as a rookie and the playoff bound 9'ers as a rookie and compare those to Henson's. Quincy's first game was against a playoff calibre team in Tampa Bay. No one cares about how a rookie plays in his first game anyway,everyone usually understands that those games do not reflect how their careers will go. My stats come from NFL.COM, and ESPN.COM. If you don't agree with my stats, then you don't agree with the stats that everyone else uses.Those other QB's you mentioned, could have played, they just weren't needed. Why so sensitive about Henson anyway, he hasn't done anything for this team and more than likely won't ever. In fact, he won't last as long as Hutch did.



Who cares about QuINTcys stats. He was a joke for a QB to begin with.

Joe a Cowboys fan
05-26-2005, 07:33 PM
1. We need to score more points than last year, and I'm not talking about 5 or 10 points. We need to score. I'd like to see 350 points or more.

2. We need to allow fewer points. By a lot. A return to 2003 PPG standards would be very nice.

3. We need to pressure the opposing QB into sacks and TO's. I really don't want to see another sub 40 sack year. I'd like to see actual harrassment.

4. We need to log at least 10 wins and a playoff spot so that we are building towards something great. No baby steps please. Let's make up some ground on the leaders.

Good post.

1) I want to see us win at least 6 of 8 home games and it would make me deliriously happy to split or better on the road. I want to see all this youth make some plays in the 4th quarter and the vets still have some push in the 4th. Not limmited to the D but I expect most of it will have to come from the D.

2) I would love to see the Boys O score more points and if they don't I want the D to score some points.

3) Sweep the Skins, sweep the Giants(Tom Giants fan alert is lit) and split with the Beagles.

4) I would like to see some validation that if you pressure the other guys QB enough then our secondary will start to look good.

5) If the O doesn't score enough to win in the first 4-6 games I want to see Henson, a lot. Drew is at best a band aid to me. If Henson isn't it I want to know. By that I mean I want to see him enough so I know he isn't, not Bill telling me so. At some point the team needs to know where they stand with our trigger puller of the future.

6) Finally I would like to see different play calling in the second half. Not just adjustments but something planed to have the same look but be something different. If I can call the plays in the games I watch then anybody can.

I worried about our O right after the draft but when the boys picked up A train for a change of pace I felt a lot better. I still think our best receiver is our TE but the runing game looks to be a lot more powerful. I am so looking forward to August when it may be vanilla but teams will hit!

Novacek84
05-26-2005, 08:25 PM
[QUOTE=AsthmaField]For me to consider this year a success has little to do with our record. I think if the things happen that I want to see happen, our record will be a positive one.

We don't have to win the super bowl this year for me to consider it a success. Just show steady improvement in key areas and show a growth pattern that points towards a powerful team.

Like in 1991 for instance. We go knocked out of the playoffs pretty early, but you could just tell that we were a young team on the rise with nothing but good things on the horizon. By the time 1992 rolled around, everyone knew the Cowboys were a team to be reckoned with. That's what I want. Almost more than going all the way this year. (END QUOTE)

I agree with this line of thinking. I see this season as maybe being a lot like 1990 where we maybe struggle a bit to start the year (we were 3-7 in '90 before a 4-2 finish brought us to a competitive 7-9) but finish strong. But the difference between this team and the '90 squad is that we have an experienced QB back there whereas in '90 it was only Troy's 2nd year. I think if Bledsoe plays well we can approach the '91 11-5 team if all the pieces on defense fall into place. I really do expect the defense to be vastly improved and if Bledsoe can get us between 21-23 points per game we will win more than we lose. I know its asking a lot on offense, but if pickups like Bledsoe are supposed to be an upgrade, why not have high hopes? As long as Julius stays healthy I think we're OK on offense. (Unless Bledsoe is so bad that Henson has to step in) I see 9-7 and a possible wild card spot. If this happens, I say watch out in '06. I hope this year is the breakthrough year but I still think we are a year away because all these new players have to have time to jell. Again, I think the '90 Cowboys are a good barometer for '05 only with a couple more wins.

TX Cowboy
05-26-2005, 11:02 PM
For me to consider this year a success has little to do with our record. I think if the things happen that I want to see happen, our record will be a positive one.

We don't have to win the super bowl this year for me to consider it a success. Just show steady improvement in key areas and show a growth pattern that points towards a powerful team.

Like in 1991 for instance. We go knocked out of the playoffs pretty early, but you could just tell that we were a young team on the rise with nothing but good things on the horizon. By the time 1992 rolled around, everyone knew the Cowboys were a team to be reckoned with. That's what I want. Almost more than going all the way this year. (END QUOTE)

I disagree with that reply on several levels 1 is Parcells wasn't brought in to
make steady climbs to the top..he was brought in to get them over the top
let's face it the rest of the Least isn't getting it done, so who better then
Bill Parcells to restore the glory of the East by having the Dallas Cowboys
win their 6th title and the first title since 96 when Dallas won it for this
division before it's decline into mediocrity.

9 years is long enough let's face it if your leaving the winning of the S.B. up
to teams like the E-Girls, Vagiants or Deadskins, your gonna be waiting a
long time for this division to get back what it lost, plus with the current
situation a weak NFC and a horrible NFC Least no better time then the
present to pounce and seize the opportunity and capture title 6.

E-girls or no E-Girls it's time to capture what is ours and I say go 4 it so
lets go all the way in 05 Big D

Little Jr
05-26-2005, 11:21 PM
9-7 or better will be a success. I like to see the playoffs but if we finish 9-7 and miss I will still consider it a success.