View Full Version : Lance Shulters To Be A Cowboy?
Compacity
05-28-2005, 07:34 AM
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Lance Shulters
Teams Interested
Falcons?
Cowboys
May. 23 - According to the Houston Chronicle, the Titans do, indeed, plan to release Schulters after June 1. Previous reports out of Nashville indicated Schulters was staying away from offseason workouts, both to rehab his injured foot and to protect his market value in case the team decided to release him.
"We are going to hold him out until his fate is decided one way or the other," Schulters' agent, Brian Levy, told The Tennessean. "Obviously both sides wouldn't want to see him get hurt at this point. He could practice if need be, but I don't think it is in anyone's better interest for him to partake in the activities. ... He is not going to take a risk." Schulters has been mentioned all spring as a possible June 1 salary-cap cut from the Titans, and ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli has heard rumblings that Atlanta might be interested in signing him if Tennessee turns him loose. The veteran safety played for Falcons coach Jim Mora in San Francisco before signing with the Titans, and the Falcons have a need at the position after releasing Cory Hall. The Houston report also mentioned Dallas as a possible landing spot for Schulters.
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Woods
05-28-2005, 07:46 AM
I wonder how bad his foot injury is at this stage?
Is he even expected to be 100% healthy by the start of the season?
Cajuncowboy
05-28-2005, 07:47 AM
Isn't he 30 + years old? Doesn't he have foot problems. Doesn't he play a position where 30+ year old, foot problem players have difficulty? Just say no!
dbair1967
05-28-2005, 09:53 AM
not sure why the hoopla over this guy...just another case of "big name-itis" thats so prevelent on this forum...does anyone realize he hasnt intercepted a pass in 22 games? thats the last 22 games PLAYED...he also doesnt have many passes defensed in his career...he has two seasons where he got 6 picks, but 4 where he got NONE...including 16 starts in 2003 where he got ZERO
not sure he's THAT much a better option than anything here...if he's 100% and comes cheap maybe I could see it...otherwise, not all that interested
David
Big Country
05-28-2005, 11:23 AM
don't need him
AsthmaField
05-28-2005, 11:39 AM
Every media source will link any free agent safety with the Cowboys.
Personally, I'd rather develop the guys we have than bring in a big name that's damaged goods and getting a little old.
Compacity
05-28-2005, 12:10 PM
I like Keith Davis to be our starter...
Cajuncowboy
05-28-2005, 12:17 PM
not sure why the hoopla over this guy...just another case of "big name-itis" thats so prevelent on this forum...does anyone realize he hasnt intercepted a pass in 22 games? thats the last 22 games PLAYED...he also doesnt have many passes defensed in his career...he has two seasons where he got 6 picks, but 4 where he got NONE...including 16 starts in 2003 where he got ZERO
not sure he's THAT much a better option than anything here...if he's 100% and comes cheap maybe I could see it...otherwise, not all that interested
David
Maybe he's a shut down free saftey and no one throws his way.
<Sarcasm off>
But you are right. I agree we don't need to start getting all infatuated with names who can't play.
LaTunaNostra
05-28-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm dying to see what Beriault's got.
Seven
05-28-2005, 12:31 PM
I'm dying to see what Beriault's got.
I can dig that. I hope he can pick up the schemes this year. Would be next to impossible to ask him to be a leader out there on the range but......one never knows. I'm pulling for this guy.
diehard2294
05-28-2005, 12:38 PM
Every media source will link any free agent safety with the Cowboys.
Personally, I'd rather develop the guys we have than bring in a big name that's damaged goods and getting a little old.couldn't agree more :D
LaTunaNostra
05-28-2005, 12:43 PM
Speaking of old broken down players..
what has Todd Steussie got left? Supposedly (according to Bruce Allen)he is not going to be under any sanctions at all for the steroid thing...because of his co-operation I guess. Several sites including the Washington Times mention him as a very possible cap induced cut next week.
He can play both tackle positions. Anyone know how he performed in Tampa?
In light of the Tucker Doghouse.....
MichaelWinicki
05-28-2005, 12:54 PM
Speaking of old broken down players..
what has Todd Steussie got left? Supposedly (according to Bruce Allen)he is not going to be under any sanctions at all for the steroid thing...because of his co-operation I guess. Several sites including the Washington Times mention him as a very possible cap induced cut next week.
He can play both tackle positions. Anyone know how he performed in Tampa?
In light of the Tucker Doghouse.....
I didn't think Tucker was even going to make it out of camp this year. I like the Petitti kid. At this point I'm thinking Vollers first and Petitti second.
If we had a legit chance at being a SB team I would sign Steussie in a second but we're not. Let's see if Vollers or Petitti can become an above-average right tackle and hold down the position for the next half-dozen seasons. Then we can go into next year's draft taking care of WR, DT and potentially FS.
LaTunaNostra
05-28-2005, 12:56 PM
You're right Mike about developing Pettitti and Vollers, and Rogers too.
But my idea of a must-have on ANY depth chart is a vet swing tackle, in any year.
MichaelWinicki
05-28-2005, 01:07 PM
You're right Mike about developing Pettitti and Vollers, and Rogers too.
But my idea of a must-have on ANY depth chart is a vet swing tackle, in any year.
I don't disagree Barb.
Having a QB back there who isn't adept at avoiding the rush certainly places a premium on our tackles.
I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that Rogers can turn it around and give us a little something.
I think Lance would be better as a SS at this point in his career....and no one wants to see Roy back at FS I don't think.
Compacity
05-28-2005, 02:52 PM
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=F7286B5E-C3CA-F2A9-1A6DE4941AE1E56E
By Mickey Spagnola
DallasCowboys.com Columnist
May 19, 2005, 5:51 PM (CDT)
IRVING, Texas - On one hand you have a 10-game NFL Europe season. On the other you have a five-month semester worth of Quarterback 303.
Overseas, you face live competition. In the bubble, you get private tutoring.
Playing in a league void of talent, you might end up throwing 200 passes in the season, and maybe another 2,000 over the course of practice. Just working out on homeland soil, while also getting in some serious conditioning, you will wind up throwing more than 6,000 passes.
The Cowboys had a hard decision to make back in February: Send Drew Henson, and maybe even Tony Romo, to NFL Europe or keep the two young quarterbacks on the premises to be groomed under the watchful eyes of Sean Payton and David Lee.
The previous year, they did the European thing with Chad Hutchinson, and proceeded to watch him get beat up playing behind an offensive line not even worthy of practice squad status.
This time, they just said no to Europe.
"The feeling was they would be better off staying here," assistant head coach Sean Payton said. "Having them under our umbrella would be better than continuing to play games with certain fundamental flaws.
"So when all was settled, we decided let's get these guys for a solid year and not send them off somewhere else. This way we could work on what we want to work on. Let's keep them on campus."
Thus began the semester-long quarterback school out here at The Ranch, and it will continue as the Cowboys head toward next weekend's mandatory, full-squad, three-day mini-camp, which will be the first time for all to see just how much progress these young quarterbacks have made.
My guess is, Henson will have made the most progress, but mostly because he had the most ground to cover. Talent aside, let's remember Romo arrived here in 2003 having started three full seasons of football games, and no matter they were Division I-AA. He was playing, and well enough to be voted the best player in I-AA ball that 2002 season at Eastern Illinois.
Henson, he was playing baseball those three years. No football. In fact, Romo started more games any one of those three years at Eastern Illinois than the eight Henson had his entire three-years at Michigan.
So with Romo, the Cowboys were "refining."
With Henson, they were making "adjustments."
Hey, you don't need to be Bill Parcells. We saw it last year: Henson's release throwing the football too much resembled that of a third baseman throwing a baseball. Too much three-quarters. Not enough over the top.
So the work began there, getting Henson to keep his elbow up when throwing the ball, parallel with his shoulder. That should help his accuracy and his velocity - also with keeping a spiral on the ball when it leaves his hand.
Those are the reasons for a more over-the-top release than any worry of getting balls batted at the line of scrimmage.
"The myth is, in games you throw over offensive linemen," Payton said. "The reality is, you throw in lanes."
He means in the space opened up by the blocking schemes of the offensive linemen spreading out the defensive linemen so there is an alley to throw the ball through.
Then there is the matter of when you release the ball. Evidently, Henson was a little off there, too. The coaching staff detected him pushing his passes instead of snapping them off. Holding onto the ball too long reduces your velocity.
And, if that wasn't enough, because Henson was throwing from three-quarters, at times he had the ball lying too flat in his hand, which tended to bend out at a 45-degree angle. Evidently - hey I just listen to what I'm told because I've never been able to throw a football well - that reduces the spiral and causes problems throwing in the wind.
"Just trying to make it all as efficient as possible," Payton said. "We are just trying to make some subtle adjustments. It's not about a total overhaul."
So maybe this gives you a much better idea of why the Cowboys preferred having Henson, and Romo, too, here at The Ranch working on mechanics rather than trying to read defenses under the pressure of games and playing against guys who might never, ever play in the NFL.
Plus, think of it this way. By time these guys finish with the off-season workouts, including the five practices during this upcoming mini-camp and then four days of on-field teaching sessions after Memorial Day, they will have thrown well over 6,000 passes out here I'm guessing.
Had they gone to Europe, well, look at it this way: Houston's Dave Ragone leads the league with 178 attempts in eight games. If you practice three days a week, you might throw 50 or so passes a day in practice. Heck, let's be really liberal. Say 100. Add that up over a 10-week season, and that will come to about half the throws these guys will have made.
Plus, you have them working with your guys, Payton, the guy coordinating the pass offense, and Lee, a real technician in Parcells' eyes, who has been promoted this off-season to quarterbacks coach. Lee had done a heckuva job in the college ranks teaching guys the intricacies of throwing the football, going all the way back to his days at Ole Miss when he turned a very unrefined, hully-gully quarterback John Fourcade into a decent enough passer to eventually have played a few years in the NFL with the Saints.
"They're kind of like at the driving range so far," said Payton, the analogy appropriate since we were standing at Cowboys Golf Course the other day talking after his round of golf.
That means next weekend will sort of be like playing in a scramble. Qualifying begins in training camp. Then you'll really be able to tell just how far these quarterbacks have come in the off-season.
If the Cowboys have their druthers, they won't ever see Henson or Romo play a real round during the season, meaning two things: Drew Bledsoe plays well and the 33-year-old quarterback remains as healthy as the 41-year old Vinny Testaverde did this past season. Because if you are reading the tea leaves here, the idea is to put these young, inexperienced guys through quarterback school, not quarterback shock, then play them when - and if - they show they are properly prepared.
Because let's remember, one guy wasn't even drafted and the other has started nine football games since high school.
Now if you have to, think of it, you know, sort of like college. They don't throw you into the operating room for open-heart surgery your first semester of med school. Probably not your second, either.
Let the classes continue. MICK SHOTS
http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/starlogo_15.gifOK, before you inundate me with emails about L.J. Shelton getting released by Arizona, forget about it. The Cardinals had been trying to trade him prior to the draft, and including to the Cowboys. The Cowboys weren't interested. Evidently, he's not a great worker, and being out of shape got him in Denny Green's doghouse, which is pretty hard to do. So you could imagine what Parcells' patience would be with a guy like that. The Cards were so fed up with him, they are eating $3.3 million of cap space, and didn't even wait another two weeks to spread the hit over two years. http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/starlogo_15.gifAnd at the Cowboys' other sore spot, free safety, apparently Lance Schulters will be turned loose by Tennessee after June 1. The Titans even told Schulters to just watch mini-camp, not even wanting to chance the seven-year veteran injuring himself. He has refused to lessen this year's base salary of $2.75 million to make enough of a difference to the cap-strapped Titans even after collecting a $250,000 roster bonus. Again, the Cowboys will take a hard look at the candidates during this next mini-camp before making any sort of decision. Just remember Schulters' Lis Franc foot injury last year limited him to just three games. http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/starlogo_15.gifEncouraging news about Chris Canty came when Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on Wednesday said the fourth-round draft choice was not expected to spend the first six weeks of the season on PUP. By Sept. 11, he will be nearly 10 months removed from reconstructive knee surgery. http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/starlogo_15.gifEvidently where there is an Original Whizzinator, there is a fire. Reports out of Minnesota are suggesting Vikings running back Onterrio Smith will be suspended one year for allegedly missing a league-administered drug test, which is as good as a positive test. Smith was suspended the first four games last year for violating the league
StarMan
05-28-2005, 03:08 PM
Not only that...but did you hear we signed Drew Bledsoe? :p:
dargonking999
05-28-2005, 03:28 PM
man you do know that was about a week ago right
blindzebra
05-28-2005, 03:30 PM
Dude it's almost 10 days old and a repost.:nono2:
AsthmaField
05-28-2005, 03:43 PM
I would say something... but I just made an idiot out of myself on another thread... so I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.
Hostile
05-28-2005, 03:47 PM
I would say something... but I just made an idiot out of myself on another thread... so I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.No you didn't. He wasn't clear in the least bit, and he clearly did not answer your question.
blindzebra
05-28-2005, 04:07 PM
No you didn't. He wasn't clear in the least bit, and he clearly did not answer your question.
While true, I was able to figure it out, and I'm supposed to be the forum's hot-headed, reactionist.:D
stag hunter
05-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Isn't he 30 + years old? Doesn't he have foot problems. Doesn't he play a position where 30+ year old, foot problem players have difficulty? Just say no!
turned 30 yesterday
Compacity
05-28-2005, 05:24 PM
Didn't know... sorry for the repost... saw it on NFL.com lol...so I clicked on the so-called updated link on NFL.com and he sent me to that...
5mics
05-28-2005, 05:30 PM
I'm dying to see what Beriault's got.
Sorry but I think he's married..... :D
LaTunaNostra
05-28-2005, 05:35 PM
Sorry but I think he's married..... :D
Groan.
I left myself open for that one. :eek:
billknows
05-29-2005, 02:59 AM
I didn't think Tucker was even going to make it out of camp this year. I like the Petitti kid. At this point I'm thinking Vollers first and Petitti second.
If we had a legit chance at being a SB team I would sign Steussie in a second but we're not. Let's see if Vollers or Petitti can become an above-average right tackle and hold down the position for the next half-dozen seasons. Then we can go into next year's draft taking care of WR, DT and potentially FS.
We are going to make the playoffs,probably, theres every reason to think we may be clicking by then . we do have a chance at a super bowl,I would say outside chance...
Hostile
05-29-2005, 04:47 AM
While true, I was able to figure it out, and I'm supposed to be the forum's hot-headed, reactionist.:DWear it proudly. :)
5mics
05-29-2005, 05:19 PM
Groan.
I left myself open for that one. :eek:
Sorry,
Just couldn't resist BUT I should be more grown-up than that..... :)
btw, I too think Beriault will be a contributer but I'd still like to see a vet safety here for 1-2 seasons until the young guys get more acclimated. That said, I'd still be ok if Davis is our starting FS.
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