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bfelt

07-11-2005, 05:26 AM

According to FoxSports.com's article on the top cap casualties, LB Kevin Hardy has already been signed by the Cowboys:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=3747666&pageNumber=16

"Is this Hardy rejoicing over losing in Cincy? Well, no, but he has landed with Bill Parcells and the Cowboys in hopes of sniffing the playoffs."

How could this be true and not have made the news before? Or am I totally oblivious?

Charles

07-11-2005, 06:32 AM

jterrell

07-11-2005, 06:57 AM

Hardy remains listed as unsigned so perhaps his former team/city knows more than we do about his final destination. He is an experienced 3-4 LB both ILB and OLB.

It would be a quite good move if the price is right. The only reason we didn't resign him before was finances. I still remmeber him coming out in San Antonio in that black Cowboy hat, embracing the team and fans.

Hostile

07-11-2005, 07:22 AM

I think the cart is in front of the horse. FoxSports is usually pretty reliable though. Be interesting to find out if this is true or an error.

jterrell

07-11-2005, 07:32 AM

I think the cart is in front of the horse. FoxSports is usually pretty reliable though. Be interesting to find out if this is true or an error.
I cant find a single thing on it except the news does all seem to be originating from bengals.com reporters.

He doesn't want to retire and was actively participating in the Bengals off-season right up until his release.

Hopefully it gets addressed today one way or the other.

Charles

07-11-2005, 07:37 AM

I hope it's true.

Hardy was one of the diamonds on that horrible 2002 team. He played after the reconstructive surgery.

Great competition for camp if true.

Hostile

07-11-2005, 07:52 AM

I hope it's true.

Hardy was one of the diamonds on that horrible 2002 team. He played after the reconstructive surgery.

Great competition for camp if true.If ture then Singleton is likely gone if Hardy's cap number is lower. The only reason i think we may keep Singleton is for veteran presense in the LB corps along with Dat. Don't think we want to be too young.

I am still skeptical about this. I think the author jumped the gun.

cannonball44

07-11-2005, 08:50 AM

don't take this the wrong way, but the less rookies on the field, the better.

Redball Express

07-11-2005, 09:06 AM

This would be a great move if we made it. Hardy coming back would be a big boost to the 3-4.

LBer is the one position I think we are weakest at and BP knows how to take guys like a Brian Cox or a Kevin Hardy and put them in positions where their abilities shine even late in their careers.

Make it so.

parcellswaterboy

jksmith269

07-11-2005, 09:09 AM

FYI that thing has a few mis prints like Samari Rolle being signed by the Skins when he is actually with the Ravens.

Dallas4ever

07-11-2005, 09:27 AM

I'm not sure how much gas is left in Hardy's tank but it wouldn't be a bad move for a very cheap price. Anytime you can add proven veteran depth to your team it's a good thing. He had a respectable season with the Bengals last year. However, let's remember that there will be some other sevicable players released soon. No need to jump the gun on Hardy, he'll be around.

Qwickdraw

07-11-2005, 09:32 AM

don't take this the wrong way, but the less rookies on the field, the better.
You're right.

And if this is true... it's a good move. Hardy is a good LBer.

Zaxor

07-11-2005, 10:42 AM

If this turns out to be accurate...I like it... if he is an ILB... he seemed just a tad slow last year to be playing outside...and I hope he takes Dat's place on the inside and slide Dat on the outside...It lets Dat showcase his play-making ability while giving us a much bigger body inside...I could not tell you how relieved I would be knowing Dat is not going up against guards play after play

Hollywood Henderson

07-11-2005, 10:54 AM

I would be more reliaved to be watching dat play ONLY on nickle/dime & ST pkgs...

Too slow & small is a bad combo platter for a NFL LBer inside or outside...

junk

07-11-2005, 10:59 AM

If ture then Singleton is likely gone if Hardy's cap number is lower. The only reason i think we may keep Singleton is for veteran presense in the LB corps along with Dat. Don't think we want to be too young.

I am still skeptical about this. I think the author jumped the gun.

BP was concerned about size on the outside opposite Ware. Hardy could fit the bill I guess and allow Burnett a year to bulk up (although on a 6-10 team, your second rounders should be starting).

Interesting to see if it was true, but if the price was right (cheap), I guess I could deal with it. Agree on Singleton.

silverbear

07-11-2005, 12:16 PM

I think the cart is in front of the horse. FoxSports is usually pretty reliable though. Be interesting to find out if this is true or an error.

I don't know if they're reliable or not, Hos... on another board, a poster said they also have Samari Rolle listed as having signed with the Skins...

Ooops, I see that point has already been made...

Anyway, I wouldn't be annoyed at all if they were right about Hardy...

dargonking999

07-11-2005, 12:33 PM

Hey does anybody have any stats on Hardy, cause i'm kind of in the dark about this (looking down in embarrasment)

ABQCOWBOY

07-11-2005, 12:45 PM

Hey does anybody have any stats on Hardy, cause i'm kind of in the dark about this (looking down in embarrasment)

Played in 16 games last year. 9 years in the league,

Here's his line last year.

69 Tckls, 42 Solo, 27 Asst, 4 Sacks, 0 INTs, 4 PD

He's 6-4 260.

Can play in either 34 pr 43. Excellent team guy. Real Pro.

dargonking999

07-11-2005, 12:47 PM

Thanx ABQ, sounds good to me, lets hope it isnt a misprint

Scotman

07-11-2005, 12:49 PM

This would be great at the right price. I liked Hardy when he was here. Can he still run?

Strong

07-11-2005, 12:54 PM

Great find. Didn't hear a word of this til I read the post.

I like bringing in bigger bodies in the LB corp. If he still has it, bring him on.

Strong

Nav22

07-11-2005, 01:29 PM

If it was true, we'd be able to find it on more sources than just a caption from a foxsports photo gallery. These boards usually have info about every POTENTIAL signing a week before it becomes official, so how does anyone figure we missed a signing completely?

I'd be all for it, but c'mon guys...get real.

InmanRoshi

07-11-2005, 01:34 PM

If its true, then he's being brought in to play strong side OLB, since Parcells said he thinks his current crop of prospects are too small at that position.

dargonking999

07-11-2005, 01:37 PM

Kevin Hardy a Cowboy? (http://cowboys.mostvaluablenetwork.com/index.php?p=80)

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Man, if this is true, I did not see it coming.

Hardy to Dallas? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=3747666&pageNumber=16)

ILB/OLB: Kevin Hardy (cut by Bengals, signed by Cowboys)
Is this Hardy rejoicing over losing in Cincy? Well, no, but he has landed with Bill Parcells and the Cowboys in hopes of sniffing the playoffs.

It would be a pretty random misprint, but I’m skeptical. I’m no more satisfied with the linebackers then the next guy, but Kevin Hardy? He was serviceable in 2002, but he’s getting older and slower. If there is any benefit, it’s having Hardy there for veteran support… guys like Kevin Burnett and Demarcus Ware could certainly use Hardy’s veteran guidance… but I’m just not sure how effective he still is.

Anyway, if this is true, it’s not a bad move… if it isn’t true (which I don’t think it is) we’ll just go back to Singleton, Shanle and Nguyen on the inside… goodie!

This was from the cowboy roundup

InmanRoshi

07-11-2005, 01:44 PM

He's usefull in that we don't have a strong side OLB who can currently take on a TE head up, which is requirement.

SuspectCorner

07-11-2005, 02:32 PM

he was good for dallas in 2002. one of our best defenders that season. 11 passes defensed is good for a CB - out of a LBer its righteous.

CactusCowboy

07-11-2005, 02:34 PM

Is he a free agent? I have gone to several sites and he is no longer listed on the Bengals roster.......

CactusCowboy

07-11-2005, 02:36 PM

I see, they cut him MAY 3rd.

Hostile

07-11-2005, 02:37 PM

I don't know if they're reliable or not, Hos... on another board, a poster said they also have Samari Rolle listed as having signed with the Skins...

Ooops, I see that point has already been made...

Anyway, I wouldn't be annoyed at all if they were right about Hardy...Gonna be honest with you Bear, I doubt this very much.

Don't know about you, but the LB I wanted a few years ago was Takeo Spikes. I still haven't gotten over them not trying to acquire him. That is a guy who not only would have been a true asset for the last 2 or 3 years but would be the perfect veteran guy to shepherd these kids this season.

I never disliked Hardy and wouldn't scoff at his return, but it just looks like wheel spinning. You know what I mean?

Joshmvii

07-11-2005, 03:37 PM

All I remember is how he bad talked the Cowboys when he walked and went to Cincy saying how he was tired of playing for losers.

silverbear

07-11-2005, 03:40 PM

Gonna be honest with you Bear, I doubt this very much.

Color me dubious, too...

I never disliked Hardy and wouldn't scoff at his return, but it just looks like wheel spinning. You know what I mean?

I don't know if it's wheel spinning or not... remember, the situation has changed in Dallas, the Boys are gonna be playing a lot of 3-4... to me, Hardy is tailor-made for the 3-4... he might be a better fit this time around than he was the last time...

Hollywood Henderson

07-11-2005, 03:42 PM

I like Hardy, & he is well suited for the 3-4, but it seems we would have heard about the signing by now on other sources if true...

Hostile

07-11-2005, 03:55 PM

I like Hardy, & he is well suited for the 3-4, but it seems we would have heard about the signing by now on other sources if true...Exactly. No way DC.com leaves a signing unreported for this long.

UppityCracker2

07-11-2005, 04:08 PM

ILB/OLB: Kevin Hardy (cut by Bengals, unsigned)
Is this Hardy rejoicing over losing in Cincy? Well, no, and he canb't be happy about still being on the NFL's unemployment line either.

jackrussell

07-11-2005, 04:15 PM

ILB/OLB: Kevin Hardy (cut by Bengals, unsigned)
Is this Hardy rejoicing over losing in Cincy? Well, no, and he canb't be happy about still being on the NFL's unemployment line either.

That's what I read also.

DallasDW00ds0n

07-11-2005, 04:19 PM

if you saw him last season, you would know how sllloowww he is. i'd say its a bad move, esp. with his age, we don't need anymore old men.

Alexander

07-11-2005, 04:21 PM

It is not shocking that Hardy is still available.

There are two other LBers similar in age and talent available (Peter Boulware Anthony Simmons), as well as Jamie Sharper who was also on the market.

There is just an adequate supply right now and most teams will wait before they have to offer a lucrative contract for a vested veteran. None of these players are in their prime or they would be signed. There is something hanging over each one of their heads. They are all good and will make a GM look very smart, but it is supply and demand divided by injury/age concerns.

Bull Frog

07-11-2005, 04:25 PM

Natedawg44

07-12-2005, 08:28 PM

So does anyone know for sure about this signing or not. I think it makes alot of sense. He had more sacks last year than our entire Linebacking core COMBINED. He didn't play bad at MLB for the Bengals. His skills may be better suited for the 3-4 anyway. Size is another component he instantly adds 30 lbs to our LBers over Singleton going 6'4" 260 lbs