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LaTunaNostra
06-16-2004, 06:14 AM
Putting blame on Big Bill a little tricky

Randy Galloway - In My Opinion


Don't confuse what follows with fair and balanced reporting. It's too late for me in that regard.

Actually, I bring this up mainly for personal amusement.

What if that had been Dave Campo or Barry Switzer?

What would have been the degree of local media hellfire-damnation if an underachieving, mouthy young Cowboys player had thrown his sweaty, stinky jersey right smack in the puss of Docile Dave or Gunsmoke?

And a week later, that player was still on the team?

The condemnation would have been worse than airport security finding a gun in the carry-on bag.

Or Coach Campo's rendition of My Girl.

Without question, you would have read in sports sections this three-inch headline:

DISCIPLINE DEAD AT VALLEY RANCH

And, of course, I would have been the first to blame Jerry by starting off this column with:

"The gutless puppet coach once again had his strings pulled by the stupid meddling owner."

Second paragraph:

"This stuff wouldn't be happening if Jerry Jones would hire a real head coach. Like Bill Parcells."

You know I'm right on this. Even worse, I know I'm right on this.

Next question:

Has Big Bill gone soft?

A week later, why the heck hasn't Antonio Bryant's butt been sent packing?

I read earlier this week Brother LeBreton's opinion on these pages that an overreaction in this case would be foolish. That Bryant's talent level was worthy of Big Bill turning the other nostril after getting a full face strong sniff of Bryant's sweaty, stinky jersey.

No, I thought. A thousand times "no."

Parcells' strongest ally as a coach is the fear factor that the mere mention of his name brings.

With the entire team watching that practice field scene a week ago, even a Parcells loses respect if he doesn't react. Or overreact. Big Bill can't allow that punk to get away with that.

Still waiting, however.

Parcells has left town for a vacation. And instead of hanging around Valley Ranch and begging for forgiveness, Bryant went to Miami to hang out after being barred from the final three days of minicamp practices.

What does that say about Antonio?

He doesn't care.

Meanwhile, Valley Ranch continues under a strong verbal lockdown order from Big Bill.

Anyone caught talking about this case will be immediately fired, sources inside the bunker reported.

We are still awaiting a final disposition. No one knows at the moment if Bryant stays or goes. I've heard it both ways. But Parcells is leaving us in limbo, and Bryant in limbo. And unless a trade happens, it might be the start of training camp before Parcells announces his intentions for Bryant.

So for a little reassurance regarding my get-his-butt-outta-here reaction, or overreaction, I turned Tuesday to the former king of discipline at Valley Ranch.

I wanted to hear from the guy who had the guts to be the first to go public with the obvious truth that a funny guy named Barry Switzer had played a role in bringing down the last great NFL dynasty.

And as Daryl Johnston said again about his Cowboys of the '90s, "There was a total breakdown in discipline and accountability, plus there were the separate rules for individual players. Once players realize that, it's a matter of time before you have internal chaos."

OK, that's old news, and even after Barry went back to the sofa in Norman, nothing much changed until Parcells arrived at Valley Ranch.

Let it be noted, however, that until last week no player ever hurled a sweaty, stinky jersey into the face of a head coach.

Johnston, now a Fox-TV football voice, was asked for his opinion on the Bryant situation.

His answer was something along the lines of trust in Big Bill. And don't overreact. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but ...

"Parcells is so good in these kind of cases, let him be the judge," Johnston said. "He will know how to handle this. Let him weigh it, let him wait and deal with Antonio on his own terms."

For one thing, Johnston remembered private conversations he had last season on the subject of Antonio Bryant.

"I think Bill likes him, plus he thinks he can be a player, and those two factors are major with a guy like Parcells. What he told me was Bryant was a kid who had no filter on his mouth or on his reactions. What Antonio thought, he said, or he reacted.

"In this case, he thinks he should be starting, despite having had a subpar season, and he sees two of Parcells' guys [Keyshawn Johnson and Terry Glenn] as his competition at receiver. But he absolutely can't do what he did. That was crazy, arguing with the position coach, with [Keyshawn Johnson] and then having Parcells get involved."

Johnston admits its doubtful he'd be willing to give very many coaches such flexibility in this case. But Parcells is Parcells.

"The guy's track record speaks for itself. Parcells is among the best at knowing everything about each individual player. I don't know what he's going to eventually do here, but in Bill's mind, if [Bryant] wasn't worth saving, I think he'd already be gone."

Meanwhile, I will continue to overreact. And wait on Big Bill to do something.

TruBlueCowboy
06-16-2004, 06:22 AM
I wish Parcells would just give us an ultimatum already on this issue. So are we going to lose our most talented young receiver since Irvin, or not? Quit leaving us out there to dry and make the trade, release him or just tell the media he's here to stay.

LaTunaNostra
06-16-2004, 06:25 AM
I wish Parcells would just give us an ultimatum already on this issue. So are we going to lose our most talented young receiver since Irvin, or not? Quit leaving us out there to dry and make the trade, release him or just tell the media he's here to stay.

Since anyone caught breaking the gag order gets fired, I don't think we hear much soon.
:)

TruBlueCowboy
06-16-2004, 06:34 AM
Since anyone caught breaking the gag order gets fired, I don't think we hear much soon.
:)

Yeah...... :( I still think the chances are greater that he'll leave the team, otherwise, Parcells would probably clear it up now and state Bryant is a Cowboy in 2004. Talk about an issue that is being hid from the media as much as possible. I haven't seen this much conspiracy talk since "scissorgate."

Woods
06-16-2004, 06:38 AM
From reading all the versions of the AB debacle in the various press releases one thing is absolutely clear,

NO ONE really knows what happened. No journalist knows what AB said to Key or to Haley or to BP.

NO one knows if BP told AB to stay away from Valley Ranch for 1 week, or 1 month, or forever.

No journalist knows for sure if AB was "intent" on taking a swing at BP or not.

Given the lock-down with the press, there is no way these guys are going to know what truly is going on or what (accurately) happened.

I think if BP is willing to try to sort out AB (i.e., if AB is worth it), I'm all for it. If BP believes he can't salvage AB and cuts/trades him, then fine.

I don't like constantly repeating "trust in BP", but in this case, only BP really has an accurate feel of AB's potential, AB's ability to be disruptive and the potential effects on the team/coaching staff, AB's true personality, and whether BP believes AB will eventually tow the "company" line.

Doomsday101
06-16-2004, 08:01 AM
Don't confuse what follows with fair and balanced reporting. It's too late for me in that regard.

Actually, I bring this up mainly for personal amusement.

What if that had been Dave Campo or Barry Switzer?

What would have been the degree of local media hellfire-damnation if an underachieving, mouthy young Cowboys player had thrown his sweaty, stinky jersey right smack in the puss of Docile Dave or Gunsmoke?

And a week later, that player was still on the team?

The condemnation would have been worse than airport security finding a gun in the carry-on bag.

Or Coach Campo's rendition of My Girl.

Without question, you would have read in sports sections this three-inch headline:

DISCIPLINE DEAD AT VALLEY RANCH

And, of course, I would have been the first to blame Jerry by starting off this column with:

"The gutless puppet coach once again had his strings pulled by the stupid meddling owner."

Second paragraph:

"This stuff wouldn't be happening if Jerry Jones would hire a real head coach. Like Bill Parcells."

You know I'm right on this. Even worse, I know I'm right on this.

Next question:

Has Big Bill gone soft?

A week later, why the heck hasn't Antonio Bryant's butt been sent packing?

I read earlier this week Brother LeBreton's opinion on these pages that an overreaction in this case would be foolish. That Bryant's talent level was worthy of Big Bill turning the other nostril after getting a full face strong sniff of Bryant's sweaty, stinky jersey.

No, I thought. A thousand times "no."

Parcells' strongest ally as a coach is the fear factor that the mere mention of his name brings.

With the entire team watching that practice field scene a week ago, even a Parcells loses respect if he doesn't react. Or overreact. Big Bill can't allow that punk to get away with that.

Still waiting, however.

Parcells has left town for a vacation. And instead of hanging around Valley Ranch and begging for forgiveness, Bryant went to Miami to hang out after being barred from the final three days of minicamp practices.

What does that say about Antonio?

He doesn't care.

Meanwhile, Valley Ranch continues under a strong verbal lockdown order from Big Bill.

Anyone caught talking about this case will be immediately fired, sources inside the bunker reported.

We are still awaiting a final disposition. No one knows at the moment if Bryant stays or goes. I've heard it both ways. But Parcells is leaving us in limbo, and Bryant in limbo. And unless a trade happens, it might be the start of training camp before Parcells announces his intentions for Bryant.

So for a little reassurance regarding my get-his-butt-outta-here reaction, or overreaction, I turned Tuesday to the former king of discipline at Valley Ranch.

I wanted to hear from the guy who had the guts to be the first to go public with the obvious truth that a funny guy named Barry Switzer had played a role in bringing down the last great NFL dynasty.

And as Daryl Johnston said again about his Cowboys of the '90s, "There was a total breakdown in discipline and accountability, plus there were the separate rules for individual players. Once players realize that, it's a matter of time before you have internal chaos."

OK, that's old news, and even after Barry went back to the sofa in Norman, nothing much changed until Parcells arrived at Valley Ranch.

Let it be noted, however, that until last week no player ever hurled a sweaty, stinky jersey into the face of a head coach.

Johnston, now a Fox-TV football voice, was asked for his opinion on the Bryant situation.

His answer was something along the lines of trust in Big Bill. And don't overreact. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but ...

"Parcells is so good in these kind of cases, let him be the judge," Johnston said. "He will know how to handle this. Let him weigh it, let him wait and deal with Antonio on his own terms."

For one thing, Johnston remembered private conversations he had last season on the subject of Antonio Bryant.

"I think Bill likes him, plus he thinks he can be a player, and those two factors are major with a guy like Parcells. What he told me was Bryant was a kid who had no filter on his mouth or on his reactions. What Antonio thought, he said, or he reacted.

"In this case, he thinks he should be starting, despite having had a subpar season, and he sees two of Parcells' guys [Keyshawn Johnson and Terry Glenn] as his competition at receiver. But he absolutely can't do what he did. That was crazy, arguing with the position coach, with [Keyshawn Johnson] and then having Parcells get involved."

Johnston admits its doubtful he'd be willing to give very many coaches such flexibility in this case. But Parcells is Parcells.

"The guy's track record speaks for itself. Parcells is among the best at knowing everything about each individual player. I don't know what he's going to eventually do here, but in Bill's mind, if [Bryant] wasn't worth saving, I think he'd already be gone."

Meanwhile, I will continue to overreact. And wait on Big Bill to do something.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/8935188.htm

LaTunaNostra
06-16-2004, 08:25 AM
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/8935188.htm

Bravo!

Actually we all know who the Star Tel and DMN and DC.com writers are. (Galloway, Lebreton, JJT, Hill. Jr, Floyd-Engel, Mosely, Gosselin, et al) and we all know who Prisco , Banks, King, Pasquarelli, Kirwan, Dr. Z. and where they write.

It's the articles posted with NO author's name, NO paper, and NO link that get irritating. Is this some fantasy football hack, or MSN sports, or a fan opinion?

But point taken. :D

A link is always useful.

viman96
06-16-2004, 08:52 AM
I wonder if the silence from BP is really about leaving AB hanging in the wind. The longer AB waits for a decision the more he will realize his fate depends on the Tuna.

This all could be a ploy to try and break him down.

Doomsday101
06-16-2004, 08:56 AM
I wonder if the silence from BP is really about leaving AB hanging in the wind. The longer AB waits for a decision the more he will realize his fate depends on the Tuna.

This all could be a ploy to try and break him down.

I really would not be suprised if AB and Parcells have spoken since the incident happened. Parcells keeps as much behind closed doors as possiable so just because the media has not reported any meeting between the 2 does not mean it hasn't taken place.

Jarv
06-16-2004, 09:13 AM
I wonder if the silence from BP is really about leaving AB hanging in the wind. The longer AB waits for a decision the more he will realize his fate depends on the Tuna.

This all could be a ploy to try and break him down.

I agree whole heartily. If this is the case...You have AB sweating it out for 6 weeks until TC opens...Not knowing your future and where you stand for that long of a time could drive one mad.

I would do the same thing myself.

As far as the writers wanting a resolution...Too bad...lol. Is BP on vacation ? If he is, I'm sure he is getting a good chuckle outta this. While everyne is sweating and waiting for his decision. he's off at the track or fishing, having a blast.

Meanwhile in Miami...AB is getting lectured by his mom...and has no idea of where his future lies ?? Am I gonna get released ? Am I gonna be moved down on the depth chart and not play ? Is BP just gonna forgive me ? What is my future ?

Stew in it baby !...lol.

Nightshade
06-16-2004, 09:48 AM
I agree whole heartily. If this is the case...You have AB sweating it out for 6 weeks until TC opens...Not knowing your future and where you stand for that long of a time could drive one mad.

I would do the same thing myself.

As far as the writers wanting a resolution...Too bad...lol. Is BP on vacation ? If he is, I'm sure he is getting a good chuckle outta this. While everyne is sweating and waiting for his decision. he's off at the track or fishing, having a blast.

Meanwhile in Miami...AB is getting lectured by his mom...and has no idea of where his future lies ?? Am I gonna get released ? Am I gonna be moved down on the depth chart and not play ? Is BP just gonna forgive me ? What is my future ?

Stew in it baby !...lol.

Training camp starts. AB picks up his helmet. No star.
Plays with the third team. Slooowwwwlly works his way back up to 2nd team just before the first Pre-season game. Doesn't see the field till the 5th game. All the time he's thinking... one more... just one more blow up and basically my career is over before it even began.

:D

Skeptic
06-16-2004, 10:44 AM
Yeah...... :( I still think the chances are greater that he'll leave the team, otherwise, Parcells would probably clear it up now and state Bryant is a Cowboy in 2004. Talk about an issue that is being hid from the media as much as possible. I haven't seen this much conspiracy talk since "scissorgate."

Scissorgate.

Memories............

TheHustler
06-16-2004, 01:09 PM
Yeah...... :( I still think the chances are greater that he'll leave the team, otherwise, Parcells would probably clear it up now and state Bryant is a Cowboy in 2004. Talk about an issue that is being hid from the media as much as possible. I haven't seen this much conspiracy talk since "scissorgate."

i think its the exact opposite. if he was going to be cut, it would have happened already. when ross was cut, it was kind of unexpected. if it had to happen, now is the best time for it to happen. BP is using this time as a buffer. now that min camp is over, it works to his advantage. in a month people will have forgotten about the scuffle. undoubtedly bryant will recieve some punishment, some suspension or fine, but it will likely me small. he'll be a cowboy at the start of the season.

Double Trouble
06-16-2004, 01:42 PM
i think its the exact opposite. if he was going to be cut, it would have happened already. when ross was cut, it was kind of unexpected. if it had to happen, now is the best time for it to happen. BP is using this time as a buffer. now that min camp is over, it works to his advantage. in a month people will have forgotten about the scuffle. undoubtedly bryant will recieve some punishment, some suspension or fine, but it will likely me small. he'll be a cowboy at the start of the season.
I don't think there's any way he'll get cut. I think his being traded is a much more likely scenario, apparently since a couple of teams have already shown interest.

EGG
06-16-2004, 02:34 PM
Yeah...... :( I still think the chances are greater that he'll leave the team, otherwise, Parcells would probably clear it up now and state Bryant is a Cowboy in 2004. Talk about an issue that is being hid from the media as much as possible. I haven't seen this much conspiracy talk since "scissorgate."

My gut feeling is the exact opposite of your's(and you should see my gut!). Antonio stays unless some team is willing to cough up an early 3rd rounder...

big dog cowboy
06-16-2004, 09:07 PM
My guess is that behind the scenes AB is busy kissing BP's arse. Until he stops, there probably won't be any word on the situation. :D

BigDPlayer
06-17-2004, 05:09 PM
What I liked most about that interview with Moose was how well BP has AB pegged. He already knows the kid has no filter, is all reaction and, in a sense, just a 'pure'* personality. BP knows this and, if you think about it, the kid just wants to play ball and is so emotional about it that he is ready to fight the HC! Now, of course, that is the worst way to do it but you have to admire the kids fire. He STILL needs to grow up a lot and be a man but with his talent and passion... I still think we have to keep him on.

* by pure I do not mean GOOD. I simply am refering to his "unfiltered, unplugged" personality type. I'm sure we've all known people like this; say what they think without thought to consequence or feelings.

...Pablo

big dog cowboy
06-17-2004, 08:15 PM
The sentimate seems to be changing as time passes. At first it was "AB MUST GO". Now I am reading more and more posts where people believe we should give BP a chance to make AB a player in this league.