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hockix
06-23-2004, 09:16 AM
"It is fair for any employee in any line of work to receive a pay raise when they are exceeding their expected roles within their company, or receive a promotion and increased responsibilities," McCardell added.


Would it be fair if you don't reach what they expected and they ask you to give back some of your salary?

I bet he would say no. :rolleyes:

Doomsday101
06-23-2004, 09:20 AM
"It is fair for any employee in any line of work to receive a pay raise when they are exceeding their expected roles within their company, or receive a promotion and increased responsibilities," McCardell added.


Would it be fair if you don't reach what they expected and they ask you to give back some of your salary?

I bet he would say no. :rolleyes:

McCardell signed his contract and should live by what he agreed on. I agree that you don't see players giving up money after having a bad year, there is no reason A team should increase a players pay because he had a good year.

Eddie
06-23-2004, 09:20 AM
McCardell played well with Tampa last year. 84 rec for 1174 yards. That's sweet. He knows he's almost at the end of his career and wants that paycheck.

Didn't we pay Larry Allen something like $8 mil over the past two years to sit on the bench???

LaTunaNostra
06-23-2004, 09:21 AM
"It is fair for any employee in any line of work to receive a pay raise when they are exceeding their expected roles within their company, or receive a promotion and increased responsibilities," McCardell added.


Translation:

"I'm no better a receiver than I was last year, and certainly no younger . But this year I'm lining up with one-trick-pony, contact allergic Joey Galloway, not mad-blocking, traffic-luvin' Keyshawn Johnson.

Pay me. "

BrAinPaiNt
06-23-2004, 09:26 AM
McCardell signed his contract and should live by what he agreed on. I agree that you don't see players giving up money after having a bad year, there is no reason A team should increase a players pay because he had a good year.


I would agree with this....if there was a stipulation that a team never ask a player to reduce or rework his salary to help the team with the salary cap.

In other words...it can work both ways.

Reef Engineer
06-23-2004, 09:30 AM
Didn't we pay Larry Allen something like $8 mil over the past two years to sit on the bench???

No, we paid him to be our starting LG which is what he was. He played the majority of the season last year and tried to do the same two years ago to no avail. Is he the player he was a few years back when he was the most dominating OL out there? Of course not - but that has more to do with getting older than losing his drive.

Was he worth what we paid him the last two years? Nope. Then again, he was certainly worth more than we paid when he first got here. It evens out for players like him.

hockix
06-23-2004, 09:31 AM
McCardell played well with Tampa last year. 84 rec for 1174 yards. That's sweet. He knows he's almost at the end of his career and wants that paycheck.

Didn't we pay Larry Allen something like $8 mil over the past two years to sit on the bench???

That's exactly what I mean.
Do you think LA would give back any money because he didn't play well?

But when a player do more then expected, the team has to pay for it... :confused: C'mon....

Let's just play for the length of your contract and if you diserve better then you will negociate it.

hockix
06-23-2004, 09:34 AM
I would agree with this....if there was a stipulation that a team never ask a player to reduce or rework his salary to help the team with the salary cap.

In other words...it can work both ways.

When they do that, they give them bigger bonus so most of the time the player don't loose anything.

Doomsday101
06-23-2004, 09:40 AM
I would agree with this....if there was a stipulation that a team never ask a player to reduce or rework his salary to help the team with the salary cap.

In other words...it can work both ways.

Players are not losing money to rework a contract, yes the lessen the hit for a year or 2 on the cap but the player will normally make that back up with a signing bonus. However when is the last time a player who signed a contract and had a bad year told their team "I played poorly so here is some of your money back?" Never. Clubs do honor their contracts, it does not matter how poor a player may play he will still get the money he signed for.

Doomsday101
06-23-2004, 09:42 AM
That's exactly what I mean.
Do you think LA would give back any money because he didn't play well?

But when a player do more then expected, the team has to pay for it... :confused: C'mon....

Let's just play for the length of your contract and if you diserve better then you will negociate it.

I agree. In some contracts teams will have a clause that allows the player to renegotiate his contract if certain incentives are reached

ravidubey
06-23-2004, 09:33 PM
Translation:

"I'm no better a receiver than I was last year, and certainly no younger . But this year I'm lining up with one-trick-pony, contact allergic Joey Galloway, not mad-blocking, traffic-luvin' Keyshawn Johnson.

Pay me. "

How about "That glorified TE Keyshawn was so great last year the sight of him in a suit on the sideline or benched in a pre-game show drove me to career numbers! But without Keyshawn's mouth and ridiculous tendency to block the waterboy on the sidelines to inspire us, my offensive-minded head coach was driven during his intense studies in "the wee hours of the night" to sign the DANGEROUS Joey Galloway and draft a stud WR in the 1st round!"

LaTunaNostra
06-23-2004, 09:49 PM
How about "That glorified TE Keyshawn was so great last year the sight of him in a suit on the sideline or benched in a pre-game show drove me to career numbers! But without Keyshawn's mouth and ridiculous tendency to block the waterboy on the sidelines to inspire us, my offensive-minded head coach was driven during his intense studies in "the wee hours of the night" to sign the DANGEROUS Joey Galloway and draft a stud WR in the 1st round!"
Good one!!!! :)

EGG
06-23-2004, 10:24 PM
I would agree with this....if there was a stipulation that a team never ask a player to reduce or rework his salary to help the team with the salary cap.

In other words...it can work both ways.


Well, not exactly. If any team decides to ask a player to take a pay cut and he refuses, they can cut him and he jets off to the next team and KEEPS his signing bonus. The player is fine and the team is held to the letter of the contract. If the player would rather stay where he is he has the choice of taking the cut or jetting.

The reverse of that doesn't seem to work out well for the owners. If the player holds out they are stuck with one less roster spot and lost millions in cap space. They can cut him, but he jets off with the bonus.

It's all BS, if you sign a contract then you are obligated to fulfill it.