Why so giddy about Thompson? [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

bbgun

08-15-2005, 02:10 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.

dougonthebench

08-15-2005, 02:12 PM

I think he would be great as a KR/PR guy.we haven't seen someone that fast on special teams since Deion.

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 02:12 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.

Because teams carry more than 1 RB, we sure as heck do not want Jones to carry the ball 30 times a game so having RB who can step in to give a breather or to take over in case of injury is important. As for RT I'm sure Dallas will address this before the start of the season.

mullet

08-15-2005, 02:12 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.

The TT excitement is over the top.... just as is all the negative feelings over one preseason game.
TT looked fast in a straight line. but, not very fast. He looked a bit stiff, and doesn't look to be elusive.
I want him to make the team, and turn into a valuable player.
But, he will never be on Julius' level.

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 02:15 PM

JackMagist

08-15-2005, 02:16 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.I think that having another good RB who can spell Julius and step in if (God Forbid) he were injured has got to be a good thing. Julius is such a good RB that having another talent on the team is not going to threaten him. IMO it is Always a good thing to find that you have yet another talented player on the team.

dougonthebench

08-15-2005, 02:16 PM

Two comments

First - I am excited because of his SPEED.

Second - Why can't I be excited about having both JJ and Thompson on the roster ?

no kidding!

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 02:19 PM

There is something wrong when people are complaining about a player having a good outing.

Chocolate Lab

08-15-2005, 02:19 PM

The TT excitement is over the top.... just as is all the negative feelings over one preseason game.
TT looked fast in a straight line. but, not very fast. He looked a bit stiff, and doesn't look to be elusive.
I want him to make the team, and turn into a valuable player.
But, he will never be on Julius' level.
I agree. He does show some promise, but I think we're getting way ahead of ourselves on Thompson. Yes, he outran a bunch of third team guys to the corner... Let's see if he can run between the tackles, because he can't and won't outrun first teamers to the sideline every play.

Not to mention blitz pickups... Surely we haven't already forgotten ReShard Lee?

bbgun

08-15-2005, 02:23 PM

So we're already burying Barber?

Bungarian

08-15-2005, 02:24 PM

He can score every time he gets the ball. He will not start but why not be excited over a free agent pickup who my contribute.

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 02:24 PM

So we're already burying Barber?

No Barber is competing just as well for the job along with A-Train.

bbgun

08-15-2005, 02:24 PM

There is something wrong when people are complaining about a player having a good outing.

I'm not ragging on him. I'm questioning the reaction to him.

dougonthebench

08-15-2005, 02:25 PM

Thompson makes the team because of his speed and ST play.

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 02:26 PM

I'm not ragging on him. I'm questioning the reaction to him.

because the guy played a good game why shouldn't fans be happy for a young man who had a good game? In a game that had few highlights Thompson gave the team a spark.

dougonthebench

08-15-2005, 02:27 PM

I'm not ragging on him. I'm questioning the reaction to him.

in all actuality,this guy isn't supposed to make the team at all.massive long shot.

BrAinPaiNt

08-15-2005, 02:29 PM

You know the good thing about all of this.....is the idea that our RB depth is so that although we may lose a decent RB, the ones that make the team will have earned it instead of being some players we just have to have to fill a roster spot.

RB depth...when was the last time we had good depth Smith/Walker Smith/Warren?

dougonthebench

08-15-2005, 02:31 PM

smashmouth

08-15-2005, 03:38 PM

No one was talking about moving JJ out and putting Thompson in. If you have Emmitt and Marshall Faulk on one team, how can that hurt you? That means that when it's time to pick up a 1st or a 2nd, you have the personell to do it. If you need to trade for a great QB or whatever, a 2nd RB who is as good or almost as good as our starter could be a good weapon for a trade.

Not to mention if JJ goes down with an injury. Barber and A-Train look ordinary thus far, that doesn't mean it won't change. TT looks to have some special qualities (SPEED AND NOT JUST SPEED BUT LOTS OF IT). BP had a split backfield in the game when TT was knocking off 10 and 15 yard carries. Can you imagine what Defenses would do if the split backfield were JJ & TT?

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 03:39 PM

He looked good, but it is only preseason and third string defense.

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 03:42 PM

He looked good, but it is only preseason and third string defense.

They had a 1st round draft choice in the lineup on a big 3rd and short play during "scrub time". The announcers were making a point to point that out.

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 03:47 PM

They had a 1st round draft choice in the lineup on a big 3rd and short play during "scrub time". The announcers were making a point to point that out.

Yes, three years after being drafted. That is quite comical. I was lmao at how pathetic that Pace dude is. Still, being a former first rounder playing garbage time in a preseason game must tell you something...

ThornWithin81

08-15-2005, 03:48 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.

1. There's no way we'll get a "viable RT candidate" during the preseason out of a UDFA who had a good outing against the Arizona Cardinals 3rd stringers. That dog just won't hunt.

2. Depth. If Julius goes down, we've got to have depth to follow him. Barber is there, but a football team is all about having a full depth chart, not just two guys you want. Also, TT will develop into a different style of runner than MBIII.

3. It's preseason and we just came off of a loss. TT ran really well, so we're excited. That doesn't mean anyone who's intelligent thinks he's the next Barry Sanders.

:star:

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 03:49 PM

He looked good, but it is only preseason and third string defense.

Thompson does not pick when his opportunities come he just needs to make the most of it when his number is called and that is what he did. For his sake I hope he is given a chance to work with the 2nd unit to see how he responds

smashmouth

08-15-2005, 03:53 PM

DLCassidy

08-15-2005, 03:54 PM

Thompson is FAST. That's the main reason he has people talking. If he continues to shine he could change the way BP is presently thinking about the backup RB. We're a long way from that happening but teams that would otherwise bring the house on Drew Bledsoe 3rd and long may be given pause if you have a guy that can take it the distance on a swing pass out of the backfield. Believe me the coaching staff is going to keep a close eye on Thompson and with good reason.

ThornWithin81

08-15-2005, 03:54 PM

in all actuality,this guy isn't supposed to make the team at all.massive long shot.

Not at this point. At this point, I would expect that if any of the halfbacks is cut, it will be A-Train, not Tyson. Tyson is a rookie with the potential to make big plays, Thomas is a power runner who's not going to do much more than that.

I'd consider ATrain the longshot.

lspain1

08-15-2005, 03:55 PM

Parcell's looks around......."Oh lookie here, I found something......Depth! At a position!...It's unheard of!"

And it has been since he's been coach of the Cowboys. But things are a changin' for the better ;)

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 03:55 PM

Chuck 54

08-15-2005, 03:59 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.
He may look good for us at this point, and he brings a dimension that would eventually make him an extremely valuable 3rd down back if he can handle it.

ON the other hand, he's an undrafted RB...you're not going to find a RT in a trade for him...his value on the market is probably lower than Lynn Scott's.

Merlin

08-15-2005, 04:16 PM

Alot of people were complaining about him not being able to do anything up the middle.
I watched my recording and what I saw was 1st off, they only gave it to him twice up the middle where, as soon as he got the ball, he was swormed.

I just want like I say all of the time "Playmakers". I don't care what school they came from or what they look like, or if they have a strong arm or not, I just want people who can make plays.

The line wasnt blocking very well. Look at Julius numbers, Everytime he went outside he had some nice gains because of that speed. I hope he can catch the ball too but he has to be able to block if he is gonna play RB this year. Bottomline.

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 04:18 PM

Thompson does not pick when his opportunities come he just needs to make the most of it when his number is called and that is what he did. For his sake I hope he is given a chance to work with the 2nd unit to see how he responds

Yes, let us see how he does when the defenses are faster and more experienced and can catch him before he turns upfield.

jterrell

08-15-2005, 04:20 PM

The TT excitement is over the top.... just as is all the negative feelings over one preseason game.
TT looked fast in a straight line. but, not very fast. He looked a bit stiff, and doesn't look to be elusive.
I want him to make the team, and turn into a valuable player.
But, he will never be on Julius' level.
Huh?
Fast but not very fast?
Are you serious?
He was torching their entire team even tho they had an angle and knew what play we were running.

He may not have any vision, may be a fumbler, could be a horrid blocker, may have crappy hands, but he is VERY fast. There is no denying that.

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 04:24 PM

Yes, let us see how he does when the defenses are faster and more experienced and can catch him before he turns upfield.

That could happen, we don't really know now do we? Sorry but I don't understand you coming down on this kid, he has done nothing to warrant these type of remarks. He went out and he played a good ball game granted it was with the 3rd unit and hopefully that showing will allow him some time with the 2nd unit. I know the kid has some very good speed and was talked about during the Cowboys broadcast.

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 04:25 PM

Huh?
Fast but not very fast?
Are you serious?
He was torching their entire team even tho they had an angle and knew what play we were running.

He may not have any vision, may be a fumbler, could be a horrid blocker, may have crappy hands, but he is VERY fast. There is no denying that.

Sound like an agenda is in place from Asklesko but he is beating around the bush. LOL

smashmouth

08-15-2005, 04:26 PM

The line wasnt blocking very well. Look at Julius numbers, Everytime he went outside he had some nice gains because of that speed. I hope he can catch the ball too but he has to be able to block if he is gonna play RB this year. Bottomline.Yeah, if you want to stack the middle, fine! We'll have JJ hit the outside on ya. If you want to keep your LB's wide, then we'll gut-ya.
I'll tell you this though, if TT comes in and they stack the middle it is sure suicide for the defense. Imagine how good Key Johnson blocks on the outside, those 15 yard plays would turn into 23 yard plays and maybe touchdowns.

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 04:26 PM

That could happen, we don't really know now do we? Sorry but I don't understand you coming down on this kid, he has done nothing to warrant these type of remarks. He went out and he played a good ball game granted it was with the 3rd unit and hopefully that showing will allow him some time with the 2nd unit. I know the kid has some very good speed and was talked about during the Cowboys broadcast.

He does have some great speed. I will concede that. He also has some very speedy footwork. I just need to see more of him, particularly playing against Ray Lewis...

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 04:39 PM

He does have some great speed. I will concede that. He also has some very speedy footwork. I just need to see more of him, particularly playing against Ray Lewis...

We don't play the Ravens this season so I don't think you will see him aginst Ray Lewis. LOL Thompson did a good job that is all I'm not claiming him the second coming of Jim Brown. At this stage Thompson has helped himself out with a good game and because of that he gives himself a better shot at making the roster and if he continues he will give himself a chance for meaningful playing time.

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 04:41 PM

We don't play the Ravens this season so I don't think you will see him aginst Ray Lewis. LOL Thompson did a good job that is all I'm not claiming him the second coming of Jim Brown. At this stage Thompson has helped himself out with a good game and because of that he gives himself a better shot at making the roster and if he continues he will give himself a chance for meaningful playing time.

We might... If both our teams make it to the Super Bowl! There's my optimism showing throuigh :D

Doomsday101

08-15-2005, 04:44 PM

We might... If both our teams make it to the Super Bowl! There's my optimism showing throuigh :D

Go from no optimism to complete optimism. I think I will call you tide from now on since your opinion comes and goes like the tide. LOL Just joking with you.

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 04:47 PM

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 04:49 PM

Go from no optimism to complete optimism. I think I will call you tide from now on since your opinion comes and goes like the tide. LOL Just joking with you.

My tide of optimism is destroyed by the moon of reality. Man, this conversation is getting weird.

bbgun

08-15-2005, 04:53 PM

The point is that we needed a pleasant surprise at WR, OL or S more than at RB.

Banned_n_austin

08-15-2005, 04:56 PM

If JJ wasn't on the roster, I could understand the building excitement. But even if he makes the team, he doesn't stand to get a lot of carries. I'd rather trade him for a viable RT candidate.

NO WAY!

He's an outside threat and looks like he'd be a great 3rd down back ...

If you saw him play and you're saying this, I'd wonder if you were on crack ...

This guy could be something very special. He's the 2nd best back on the team IMO. Even though it seems his strength is running to the outside ... inside running can be coached a litte ...

And if the Cowboys run an open set in the backfield like they did last game, they can use Julius and Thompson in the backfield very effectively IMO.

He'll make the team .... and he'll contribute a lot to the offense this year IMO.

Banned_n_austin

08-15-2005, 04:58 PM

Two comments

First - I am excited because of his SPEED.

Second - Why can't I be excited about having both JJ and Thompson on the roster ?

I can't wait to see them both in the same backfield at the same time ...

Banned_n_austin

08-15-2005, 05:01 PM

Alot of people were complaining about him not being able to do anything up the middle.
I watched my recording and what I saw was 1st off, they only gave it to him twice up the middle where, as soon as he got the ball, he was swormed.

I just want like I say all of the time "Playmakers". I don't care what school they came from or what they look like, or if they have a strong arm or not, I just want people who can make plays.

There was no blocking for him to go anywhere up the middle ... the hole collapsed as soon as the ball was snapped ...

Asklesko

08-15-2005, 05:06 PM

I think it was just that the Cardinals sent all they had to clog up all of the holes that opened. It really worked. Maybe it's disrespect to our quarterbacks. Could be poor o-line play. Maybe it's total lack of speed by our receivers. Could be all three. I dunno.

burmafrd

08-15-2005, 05:06 PM

Speed is NOT everything.

REMEMBER RANDALL WILLIAMS.

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 05:07 PM

Speed is NOT everything.

REMEMBER RANDALL WILLIAMS.

Yeah...he couldnt catch the ball.

Wake me up when Thompson starts fumbling.

Until then...your analogy holds no water.

burmafrd

08-15-2005, 05:13 PM

Point is that Williams was fast but could not catch the ball. Thompson is fast but MUST show he can run inside and block. If he cannot do that then all the speed in the world does not matter.

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 05:14 PM

Point is that Williams was fast but could not catch the ball. Thompson is fast but MUST show he can run inside and block. If he cannot do that then all the speed in the world does not matter.

Agreed

But why would you assume that he cannot run inside or block ?

burmafrd

08-15-2005, 05:18 PM

Untill he shows he can I assume he cannot- and that is why he went undrafted.

burmafrd

08-15-2005, 05:20 PM

Now if this kid does show he can block and run inside, then things get a lot rosier. At THAT point we maybe can work a deal trading A Train to someone in need of a proven 1000 yd back. You never know; we might get someone that fills a need for us.

Mike 1967

08-15-2005, 05:20 PM

Untill he shows he can I assume he cannot- and that is why he went undrafted.

Until he shows he cannot I will assume he can - and that is why he is currently in a Cowboys uniform and why Parcells gave him praise in the this press conference.

DanTanna

08-15-2005, 05:37 PM

Thompson is what, 220 pounds? If he WANTS to run inside, he will and he'll be just as good as he is running outside. He was a bigger recruit than Tatum Bell was in HS, he just took the long way to get here. See Preist Holmes.

burmafrd

08-15-2005, 06:03 PM

as Yoda said, "size matters not".
Hambone was pretty big and he was not exactly a power back.

ghst187

08-15-2005, 06:24 PM

sadly, i thin A-train was a wasted signing if TT continues his tear. I thought Barber was a huge steal but looks like Barber may be relegated to KRs. I don't know how we'll be able to handle (and the OL getting used to) JJ and TT tearing through the line at 100 mph and then A-train coming in and looking like Eddie boy George.
I know we won't have JJ carry every running play but its going to be hard to give the remaining few carries to a guy that's slow, esp when you have two young speedsters (TT and MB) sitting there waiting.

JonJon

08-15-2005, 09:24 PM

Need I mention the name Terrell Davis? Wasn't he a 6th rounder or something? Until he had that injury, I was positive that he would surpass Emmitt and Sanders in rushing yards. And he sure knew how to kill Dallas when he played.