JFE on 103.3

[Zaxor]

just said that they wanted to get Bledsoe 2 or 3 series at most last Saturday but they sent him out there 5 times to see if he could get something going...she also said Parcells was selling in his press conference and lots of folk was buying.... she said she wouldn't push the panic button now on Bledsoe but she sure would have her hand close to it

[Qwickdraw]

just said that they wanted to get Bledsoe 2 or 3 series at most last Saturday but they sent him out there 5 times to see if he could get something going...she also said Parcells was selling in his press conference and lots of folk was buying.... she said she wouldn't push the panic button now on Bledsoe but she sure would have her hand close to it
fORGIVE MY IGNORANCE BUT BY "SELLING" ARE YOU (SHE) IMPLYING THAT WHAT bp SAID ABOUT US NOT REALLY TRYING ON OFFENSE WAS BOGUS?

My bad on the reverse Caps Lock...

[JackMagist]

fORGIVE MY IGNORANCE BUT BY "SELLING" ARE YOU (SHE) IMPLYING THAT WHAT bp SAID ABOUT US NOT REALLY TRYING ON OFFENSE WAS BOGUS?

My bad on the reverse Caps Lock...Oh surely she couldn't be saying that...Bill Parcells would Neeeeeverrr lie to US :p:

[Zaxor]

fORGIVE MY IGNORANCE BUT BY "SELLING" ARE YOU (SHE) IMPLYING THAT WHAT bp SAID ABOUT US NOT REALLY TRYING ON OFFENSE WAS BOGUS?

My bad on the reverse Caps Lock...

"I" am not impling anything... She is impling that yes

She is also saying that Al Johnson should be starting

she called Rogers a wussy and said Jerry said it could be Tucker that is starting at RT has all the tools just a mental case

Also thinks people will miss Vinny's 3500 yrds (without Glenn and JJ for significant time)

[kmp77]

If we get to the point where we will miss VT.....i'm gonna cry.

[dstew60105]

If we get to the point where we will miss VT.....i'm gonna cry.


I'll second that.

[AdamJT13]

just said that they wanted to get Bledsoe 2 or 3 series at most last Saturday but they sent him out there 5 times to see if he could get something going.

Funny how she could know that, considering that Parcells told everyone before the game that each quarterback would play one-third of the game, and that's exactly what happened.

[Zaxor]

okay now on to the def...

gonna play more 4 man line... first reason from Mickey Spags Parcells ask Burt who was the best D-lineman and he said Glover which according to Mickey got Bill thinking he did not want glover standing next to him most of the game...second reason from JFE is that in order to get Canty and some of these other guys that are showing a lot of promise into the mix it has to be a four man front...

She claimed Ware is really just battling with the mental part of the game but that once he gets it he will be getting to the QB...

[Zaxor]

Funny how she could know that, considering that Parcells told everyone before the game that each quarterback would play one-third of the game, and that's exactly what happened.

:lmao2:on another forum they call her the little ball of hate...I have no idea where she gets her info from though...I am only the repeater of it

[lspain1]

Funny how she could know that, considering that Parcells told everyone before the game that each quarterback would play one-third of the game, and that's exactly what happened.


I second this thought. This seems like a cheap shot at Bledsoe and I'm making excuses for his play either. JFE's QB comments will get a little closer scrutiny from me from now on.

[MichaelWinicki]

Oh surely she couldn't be saying that...Bill Parcells would Neeeeeverrr lie to US :p:


Jack you'll come to despise Drew Bledsoe before this is over and done with.

[MichaelWinicki]

I second this thought. This seems like a cheap shot at Bledsoe and I'm making excuses for his play either. JFE's QB comments will get a little closer scrutiny from me from now on.


It's not a cheap shot. It's the truth unfortunately. Bledsoe has real problems in the pocket at this point.

[CaptainAmerica]

okay now on to the def...

gonna play more 4 man line... first reason from Mickey Spags Parcells ask Burt who was the best D-lineman and he said Glover which according to Mickey got Bill thinking he did not want glover standing next to him most of the game...second reason from JFE is that in order to get Canty and some of these other guys that are showing a lot of promise into the mix it has to be a four man front...

She claimed Ware is really just battling with the mental part of the game but that once he gets it he will be getting to the QB...

Did Parcells clear this 4 man line stuff with Nors?

[Zaxor]

Said Romo is still taking snaps with the second team even though parcells said he would switch them up this week... when she asked parcells why they didn't change it he said he may or may not do that...She said its starting to smell like the Q/Hutch thing were Hutch never got a chance(her words not mine)

[Hollywood Henderson]

The whole thing with Ellis & Glover was to reduce the number of plays so they could be more effective when they were in...

We have lacked the ability to stop teams on 3rd down for many many moons now...

Thats where the D needs to step up & get the job done!

[Doomsday101]

The whole thing with Ellis & Glover was to reduce the number of plays so they could be more effective when they were in...

We have lacked the ability to stop teams on 3rd down for many many moons now...

Thats where the D needs to step up & get the job done!

2003 was not many many moons, Dallas ranked 4th in the NFL in stopping teams on 3rd down which was why we were able to have a winning season.

[Woods]

Said Romo is still taking snaps with the second team even though parcells said he would switch them up this week... when she asked parcells why they didn't change it he said he may or may not do that...She said its starting to smell like the Q/Hutch thing were Hutch never got a chance(her words not mine)

If Henson shows he is the better QB, BP will move him up, IMO.

From most accounts, the QB battle for number 2 is pretty even after 1 pre-season game, though Romo was performing better during the 1st week of TC.

Let's see what happens during the next 3 weeks. Should be interesting.

I'd be happy with either. (It's not like I'm going to get a kickback if Romo wins or if Henson wins!)

[Doomsday101]

If Henson shows he is the better QB, BP will move him up, IMO.

From most accounts, the QB battle for number 2 is pretty even after 1 pre-season game, though Romo was performing better during the 1st week of TC.

Let's see what happens during the next 3 weeks. Should be interesting.

I'd be happy with either. (It's not like I'm going to get a kickback if Romo wins or if Henson wins!)

I'm with you. Who ever shows themselfs to be the best option that is who will get the job

[KingTuna]

People this is pathetic...1 pre-season game without "game planning"- Plain Vanilla plays called- Not even the starting line-up on the O-line etc..etc..etc..

Parcells is not going to show his hand until 09/11 in San Diego.

Bledsoe will be the least of our worries....

R--E---L---A---X...... :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

[Charles]

Said Romo is still taking snaps with the second team even though parcells said he would switch them up this week... when she asked parcells why they didn't change it he said he may or may not do that...She said its starting to smell like the Q/Hutch thing were Hutch never got a chance(her words not mine)
Wow.........

Ever since she hit the Cowboys beat 3 seasons ago Jenny has been the best beat writer. She did a great job of reporting the facts and not revealing her personal opinion.

I think she's starting to express her opinions much more.

Her opinion that Al Johnson should be starting, even though he hasn't nailed down the job. Even stating so after Parcells clearly stated their are 3 solidified starters on the Oline.

Parcells clearly stated that they have charted every competitive drill, practice drill etc that these QBS have been put through. Its quite obvious that Romo has performed better than Henson.

Why wouldn't Parcells give Henson a fair chance. HAsn't every body and their mother stated that Parcells played a major part in the process of bringing Henson into the Cowboys.

Didn't he withhold the name of the player from the coaches/ scouts to avoid any leaks.

Didn't he and Jerry refrain from going to the work-out because they didn't want the rest of the league to know how interested they were.

Didn't Parcells personally call Henson former collegiate coach and members of the Yankees organization to get inside info.

Didn't he have a secret dinner in the backroom to get to know Henson and sell his program.

After one preseason game against 2nd , 3rd stringers and camp fodder Jenny states that Henson could be like Quincy Carter........a QB that performs poorly in practice but plays much better in games. :laugh2: My oh my.....She must really like Henson to use that analogy. Anything to score cool points for her dog in this race. I just hope Henson isn't smoking.

I think the Quincy/Chad comparison is ridiculous. Parcells from all accounts courted Henson, but now he's treating him like Chad...........could it be because he's performing like Chad did in camp. Maybe he doesn't have it.

[Zaxor]

keep in mind Charles that she is on espn to give her opinions...you and I and others must understand that they are only opinions.... you pointed out and very nicely I might add that her opinions are not worth too much if anything as it is Parcells opinion that counts around these parts

[Woods]

Wow.........

Ever since she hit the Cowboys beat 3 seasons ago Jenny has been the best beat writer. She did a great job of reporting the facts and not revealing her personal opinion.

I think she's starting to express her opinions much more.

Her opinion that Al Johnson should be starting, even though he hasn't nailed down the job. Even stating so after Parcells clearly stated their are 3 solidified starters on the Oline.

Parcells clearly stated that they have charted every competitive drill, practice drill etc that these QBS have been put through. Its quite obvious that Romo has performed better than Henson.

Why wouldn't Parcells give Henson a fair chance. HAsn't every body and their mother stated that Parcells played a major part in the process of bringing Henson into the Cowboys.

Didn't he withhold the name of the player to the scouts to avoid any leaks.

Didn't he and Jerry refrain from going to the work-out because they didn't want the rest of the league to know how interested they were.

Didn't Parcells personally call Henson former collegiate coach and members of the Yankees organization to get inside info.

Didn't he have a secret dinner in the backroom to get to know Henson and sell his program.

After one preseason game against 2nd , 3rd stringers and camp fodder Jenny states that Henson could be like Quincy Carter........a QB that performs poorly in practice but plays much better in games. :laugh2: My oh my.....She must really like Henson to use that analogy. Anything to score cool points for her dog in this race. I just hope Henson isn't smoking.

I think the Quincy/Chad comparison is ridiculous. Parcells from all accounts courted Henson, but now he's treating him like Chad...........could it be because he's performing like Chad did in camp. Maybe he doesn't have it.

Yup, could be that Henson doesn't have it (or Romo as well).

We'll have a better idea after the next few games!

At least for those in the US can view the Seattle game on TV. I can't wait for the feedback.

[Doomsday101]

Wow.........

Ever since she hit the Cowboys beat 3 seasons ago Jenny has been the best beat writer. She did a great job of reporting the facts and not revealing her personal opinion.

I think she's starting to express her opinions much more.

Her opinion that Al Johnson should be starting, even though he hasn't nailed down the job. Even stating so after Parcells clearly stated their are 3 solidified starters on the Oline.

Parcells clearly stated that they have charted every competitive drill, practice drill etc that these QBS have been put through. Its quite obvious that Romo has performed better than Henson.

Why wouldn't Parcells give Henson a fair chance. HAsn't every body and their mother stated that Parcells played a major part in the process of bringing Henson into the Cowboys.

Didn't he withhold the name of the player from the coaches/ scouts to avoid any leaks.

Didn't he and Jerry refrain from going to the work-out because they didn't want the rest of the league to know how interested they were.

Didn't Parcells personally call Henson former collegiate coach and members of the Yankees organization to get inside info.

Didn't he have a secret dinner in the backroom to get to know Henson and sell his program.

After one preseason game against 2nd , 3rd stringers and camp fodder Jenny states that Henson could be like Quincy Carter........a QB that performs poorly in practice but plays much better in games. :laugh2: My oh my.....She must really like Henson to use that analogy. Anything to score cool points for her dog in this race. I just hope Henson isn't smoking.

I think the Quincy/Chad comparison is ridiculous. Parcells from all accounts courted Henson, but now he's treating him like Chad...........could it be because he's performing like Chad did in camp. Maybe he doesn't have it.

I don't think anyone knows right now who the backup QB is going to be even Parcells. He has continued to say he wants to see them in the games before he makes his choice we played 1 we got 3 more to go. Before we hit the 4th pre-season game I'm sure we will all know who it will be.

[Woods]

I don't think anyone knows right now who the backup QB is going to be even Parcells. He has continued to say he wants to see them in the games before he makes his choice we played 1 we got 3 more to go. Before we hit the 4th pre-season game I'm sure we will all know who it will be.

Yhea, and to make the "playing field even", Tucker isn't allowed on the field for either QB!

[Charles]

Yup, could be that Henson doesn't have it (or Romo as well).

We'll have a better idea after the next few games!

At least for those in the US can view the Seattle game on TV. I can't wait for the feedback.
Feed back.

I appreciate the camp info. from fans and mediot interpretations, but you should always take it with a grain on salt.

The Quincy/Chad competition is a perfect example. By all accounts the competition was dead even. It wasn't even close in the eyes of the guy that really mattered..........Parcells.

Jenny is already starting to plant excuses (like the it being similar to the Chad/Quincy competition in which those in favor of Chad thought he wasn't given a fair chance).

Henson based on his potential has been given every chance to succeed at anything he showed interest in.

The only feedback that matters is that of Parcells and in yesterdays press conference he tipped his hands. He clearly stated that they've charted every single thing these Qbs have done since the off-season and even after the Henson performs somewhat better in a preseason game, in the 1st practice in the week leading up to when he is expected to go in as the primary back-up, Tony Romo is still taking snaps with the 2nd team............. :confused:

[Kangaroo]

Jack you'll come to despise Drew Bledsoe before this is over and done with.

I was there the day he was signed. I am taking memberships for Bledsoe sucks like Vinny Fan Club :D

[Woods]

Feed back.

I appreciate the camp info. from fans and mediot interpretations, but you should always take it with a grain on salt.

The Quincy/Chad competition is a perfect example. By all accounts the competition was dead even. It wasn't even close in the eyes of the guy that really mattered..........Parcells.

Jenny is already starting to plant excuses (like the it being similar to the Chad/Quincy competition in which those in favor of Chad thought he wasn't given a fair chance).

Henson based on his potential has been given every chance to succeed at anything he showed interest in.

The only feedback that matters is that of Parcells and in yesterdays press conference he tipped his hands. He clearly stated that they've charted every single thing these Qbs have done since the off-season and even after the Henson performs somewhat better in a preseason game, in the 1st practice in the week leading up to when he is expected to go in as the primary back-up, Tony Romo is still taking snaps with the 2nd team............. :confused:

Spags, Jenny, JJT, etc. are only one source of feedback.

Yes, only BPs opinion matters.

But I doubt he's made up his mind already. It's only one pre-season game.

What if Henson does esp. well the next 2 games and Romo doesn't? Or vice-versa.

It's too early to tell - for almost all of the young players on the team.

Let's keep an open mind.

[Double Trouble]

Said Romo is still taking snaps with the second team even though parcells said he would switch them up this week... when she asked parcells why they didn't change it he said he may or may not do that...She said its starting to smell like the Q/Hutch thing were Hutch never got a chance(her words not mine)Yeah and Bill was so right about Quincy we should always trust his QB judgement....I mean after all, Hutchinson is the starter in Chicago and Q's smokin' a bowl somewhere in Georgia....

[Charles]

I don't think anyone knows right now who the backup QB is going to be even Parcells.
Yes he does. I think he's been in this business long enough to know.

IMHO, the way I read the tea leaves, it is Romo's job to lose. Henson is playing catch-up. In the 1st practice leading up the game in which he's expect to be the primary back-up he's still taking snaps with the 3rd team and Parcells is non-comittal when asked a direct question by Jenny.

Al Johnson is back with the starting unit. He's expect to start in this preseason game. Why isn't Parcells doing the same for Henson. Unless it consistently changes over the next few days, I think Romo won the back-up job on Saturday.

[Woods]

Yes he does. I think he's been in this business long enough to know.

IMHO, the way I read the tea leaves, it is Romo's job to lose. Henson is playing catch-up. In the 1st practice leading up the game in which he's expect to be the primary back-up he's still taking snaps with the 3rd team and Parcells is non-comittal when asked a direct question by Jenny.

Al Johnson is back with the starting unit. He's expect to start in this preseason game. Why isn't Parcells doing the same for Henson. Unless it consistently changes over the next few days, I think Romo won the back-up jobon Saturday.

Wow, after 1 pre-season game the back-up QB job has been decided?

I don't know about that Charles . . . . I still think it's waaayyyy too early to tell.

[Doomsday101]

Yes he does. I think he's been in this business long enough to know.

IMHO, the way I read the tea leaves, it is Romo's job to lose. Henson is playing catch-up. In the 1st practice leading up the game in which he's expect to be the primary back-up he's still taking snaps with the 3rd team and Parcells is non-comittal when asked a direct question by Jenny.

Al Johnson is back with the starting unit. He's expect to start in this preseason game. Why isn't Parcells doing the same for Henson. Unless it consistently changes over the next few days, I think Romo won the back-up jobon Saturday.

Maybe he knows maybe he doesn't. If he does he is not going to announce it until later in camp after these guys have played in a couple more games. As for reading tea leaves or between the lines I take that as just an opinion not anything solid that can be banked on

[NorthDalal]

Jennifer Floyd Engel writes for the FT. Worth Star Telegram and has been the guest expert and Cowboy Roundtable member on Randy Galloway's afternoon radio show in the DFW market her nickname on the afternoon shows--one which she regularly answers to, without any special note of it is "Little Ball of Hate"

In addition to the already mentioned snippets from this morning's cowboy analysis she saw Parcell's in the parking lot at 6:20 this A.M. & pointed out that Al Johnson is back at 1st team center in practice and Gurode has sealed his fate. Torrin Tucker is as good as cut. Bill will be integrating more 4 man line but it will still maintain 3-4 concepts (whatever that means she wasn't sure but suspects read and recognition concepts for the outside LB's will be 3-4 like).

She offered the opinion that Parcell's wanted to test his OL and did not react to AZ's defense at all-despite Flozell's poor game Parcell's is unconcerned with LA Flozell but Parcell's goal was to get a good test for Peterman, Petitti,Tucker and Gurode.

[Charles]

Wow, after 1 pre-season game the back-up QB job has been decided?

I don't know about that Charles . . . . I still think it's waaayyyy too early to tell.
Maybe for us fans it is, but after what Parcells said yesterday and the fact that Romo is still taking snaps with the 2nd team.................I think Parcells doesn't want to slow down Romo's momentum, just because Henson had a decent outting against 3rd stringers/camp fodder.

[Double Trouble]

Maybe for us fans it is, but after what Parcells said yesterday and the fact that Romo is still taking snaps with the 2nd team.................I think Parcells doesn't want to slow down Romo's momentum, just because Henson had a decent outting against 3rd stringers/camp fodder.For the most part, Henson was playing against the same defenders that were in against Romo, contrary to others incorrect assertions that Romo was going against the Cards 1st team D.

[Hostile]

I think the Quincy/Chad comparison is ridiculous. Parcells from all accounts courted Henson, but now he's treating him like Chad...........could it be because he's performing like Chad did in camp. Maybe he doesn't have it.At the game Parcells treated Henson very respectfully in my opinion. He spoke to him a lot. Patted him on the back. Told him good job. He smiled a lot and showed enthusiasm. I got the feeling Hutch got a cold shoulder. That wasn't the case here at all. With any of the QBs.

[jterrell]

I love JFE because she is nonstop Cowboys tlak but she was mistaken. Julius was meant to play 2 or 3 series at the most not Bledsoe.

Dallas has exactly 11 points in the last 3 preseason openers. Guess where they scored them?

BP did not want this team feeling good about itself this week as he never does. Its the last week of tearing the team down before it starts to build it back up. Guys will start getting cut.

[CIWhitefish]

Yes he does. I think he's been in this business long enough to know.

IMHO, the way I read the tea leaves, it is Romo's job to lose. Henson is playing catch-up. In the 1st practice leading up the game in which he's expect to be the primary back-up he's still taking snaps with the 3rd team and Parcells is non-comittal when asked a direct question by Jenny.

Al Johnson is back with the starting unit. He's expect to start in this preseason game. Why isn't Parcells doing the same for Henson. Unless it consistently changes over the next few days, I think Romo won the back-up job on Saturday.

I agree with you 100% Charles. I think Romo is leading right now. That's not to say it couldn't change and I don't think you are saying that it's set in stone. However, barring a big change in what's transpired so far it does look like Parcells has a pretty good idea on who will get the backup job at the start of the season.

[NorthDalal]

Parcells plays psychological games w/ his QBs. Parcells explained it fully two years ago. Remember the long speech about reacting to pressure in practice and how it pointed to behavior under game deciding pressure situations.

Phil Simms chimed in on the same subject about two years ago.

Parcells lost faith in Hutchison's mental makeup during the 2003 off-season. 2003 preseason was never about a competition between Hutch and QC. Hutch didn't get a fair shake to some eyes in preseason because Parcells had already given up on him as emotionally unfit to lead.

He was sent to Europe to get rid of him. QC became the default starter.

Parcells like Jimmy is a genius at lots of things but like Jimmy is waekest at understanding QBs. He will never live down in my mind setting up a QB competition in TC and then choosing Scott Brunner over Phil Simms. Jimmy's infatuation with Steve Walsh would be the equivalent.

[Charles]

At the game Parcells treated Henson very respectfully in my opinion. He spoke to him a lot. Patted him ont he back. Told him good job. He smiled a lot and showed enthusiasm. I got the feeling Hutch got a cold shoulder. That wasn't the case here at all. With any of the QBs.
Thats why I can't understand why Jenny would make the ridiculous analogy.

Why wouldn't Parcells give Henson a fair shot? :confused:

He was worth a 3rd RD pick!!! Other 3rd Rounders duirng the Parcells era include a guy named Witten and Peterman who appears to be coming around.

It appears Jenny is starting to look for excuses other than pointing towards Henson performance so far.

[Hostile]

Parcells plays psychological games w/ his QBs. Parcells explained it fully two years ago. Remember the long speech about reacting to pressure in practice and how it pointed to behavior under game deciding pressure situations.

Phil Simms chimed in on the same subject about two years ago.

Parcells lost faith in Hutchison's mental makeup during the 2003 off-season. 2003 preseason was never about a competition between Hutch and QC. Hutch didn't get a fair shake to some eyes in preseason because Parcells had already given up on him as emotionally unfit to lead.

He was sent to Europe to get rid of him. QC became the default starter.

Parcells like Jimmy is a genius at lots of things but like Jimmy is waekest at understanding QBs. He will never live down in my mind setting up a QB competition in TC and then choosing Scott Brunner over Phil Simms. Jimmy's infatuation with Steve Walsh would be the equivalent.Great freaking post man.

[Outlaw Heroes]

I don't doubt that Romo is the front runner for the backup spot. I don't even doubt that he deserves that spot (based on his performance thus far, though things can change). To tell the truth, I think Henson would really have to outplay Romo by a very sizable margin in order to change things.

However, one of the reasons for that, and this is not to diminish Romo's performance in camp so far (by all accounts, and judging from the Arizona game, it's been very solid) or provide Henson with excuses (he shouldn't need any if Romo continues to perform as well as he has), is that it will provide Bill with a bit of insulation against the public outcry that will otherwise occur when Bledsoe inevitably lets us down. Few will be screaming for Bledsoe to be given the hook in favor of Romo, if and when Bledsoe stinks it up. Judging by last year, however, a number of us would cry out to see Henson get some development time if he were the backup. Not having to deal with that has to be weighing on Bill's mind in approaching this decision, given his penchant for sticking with his guys (as evidenced by Vinnie's situation last year).

[Hostile]

Thats why I can't understand why Jenny would make the ridiculous analogy.

Why wouldn't Parcells give Henson a fair shot? :confused:

He was worth a 3rd RD pick!!! Other 3rd Rounders duirng the Parcells era include a guy named Witten and Peterman who appears to be coming around.

It appears Jenny is starting to look for excuses other than pointing towards Henson performance so far.JMO, but Jenny is sold on Henson. She also knows like most of us that Bledsoe is the guy. Hence she decided to voice her opinion.

On Saturday Henson was a lot better than Bledsoe. I personally think he was the best of the 3 QBs, but some people like lob passes as long as McNabb isn't throwing them. Henson moved the team, led them to scores, I felt they perked up. By that I mean when he went in the whole team seemed to be ready to watch. There was a different feel.

I imagine JFE held a similar view and is simply stating it here. In an article she is objective. Here she may have had an objective and that was to state her mind on who the best QB is so far.

Again, just my opinion.

[Charles]

Parcells plays psychological games w/ his QBs. Parcells explained it fully two years ago. Remember the long speech about reacting to pressure in practice and how it pointed to behavior under game deciding pressure situations.

Phil Simms chimed in on the same subject about two years ago.

Parcells lost faith in Hutchison's mental makeup during the 2003 off-season. 2003 preseason was never about a competition between Hutch and QC. Hutch didn't get a fair shake to some eyes in preseason because Parcells had already given up on him as emotionally unfit to lead.

He was sent to Europe to get rid of him. QC became the default starter.


Quincy Carter became the starter because he performed better than Chad in camp and he performed better in the preseason.

If Chad had performed better he would have started. He was the incumbent and thought his 2-7 record entitled him to preferential treatment. Parcells put him in his place and he didn't bounce back competitively.

Carter took his benching in 2002 like a man and brought his A game to camp.

His physical abilities lend itself to the porous oline and he came through with very good performances in the preseason.

Carter won the job.

All that other pyscho-babble are just rationalizations by those who thought Chad was better. I am not going down that path again so I'lll get back on topic.................



Parcells like Jimmy is a genius at lots of things but like Jimmy is waekest at understanding QBs. He will never live down in my mind setting up a QB competition in TC and then choosing Scott Brunner over Phil Simms. Jimmy's infatuation with Steve Walsh would be the equivalent.

But the fact remains that once a QB PROVED themselves those great coaches ran with it.

It didn't take Jimmy long to understand that Troy was the best in camp and was the best in leading his teammates. Jimmy still had doubts going into the SuperBowl season in 1991. Not until after the play-offs did he believe in Troy. Thats pressure.

Henson has to prove to Parcells, the coaching staff and the team he's the best option. He has to show it evey day moreso than the other QBs like Troy did going against Walsh etc........ Parcells and Jimmy can't understand what they can't see. They don't have the luxury on being sold on a player or predicting that a QB has it because of their pedigree or potential. History has shown that better prospects have failed.

Henson has to take hold of the team. He has to be better than Bledsoe and Romo everyday. His been given chance in practice everyday to do so. So far he hasn't been the best. Not hard to understand, unless your putting one's opinion/favoritism before the good of the team.

[percyhoward]

Few will be screaming for Bledsoe to be given the hook in favor of Romo, if and when Bledsoe stinks it up.
I respectfully disagree. In that situation, MANY would be screaming for Romo, and the ones who wouldn't would be screaming that Parcells should've brought in a capable back-up.

And none of the noise would matter to Parcells anyway.

[Outlaw Heroes]

I respectfully disagree. In that situation, MANY would be screaming for Romo, and the ones who wouldn't would be screaming that Parcells should've brought in a capable back-up.

Yeah, could be that you're right and I've overstated my point. I just get the sense, however, that Henson is already a fan favorite and that the difficulty would be exacerbated if he were the backup.

As for Parcells not caring: I find that hard to believe. He may not respond to the outcry, but a man as driven by ego as he is can't help but take notice of it.

[EveryoneElse]

I hate to say this because I always like to go into the season with a positive outlook on what my team can do, but Bledsoe is not what he once was. He will get hit and sacked a ton this year. He doesn't get rid of the ball. He wants to sit there in the pocket and pet it too long. This team could really do some damage with a good QB at the wheel, but Bledsoe is no longer a good QB, hasn't been for a few years now.

With that said, we don't have much of a choice of who we send out there. Bledsoe is the best QB on the roster right now. Henson has the potential but I'm not holding my breath with him. Romo can be at best a solid backup, I wouldn't want as my first choice.

We have a good defense, good skilled players on Offense, and a HOF coach and we can't find a QB to pull it all together. Sad.

[LaTunaNostra]

I don't doubt that Romo is the front runner for the backup spot. I don't even doubt that he deserves that spot (based on his performance thus far, though things can change). To tell the truth, I think Henson would really have to outplay Romo by a very sizable margin in order to change things.

However, one of the reasons for that, and this is not to diminish Romo's performance in camp so far (by all accounts, and judging from the Arizona game, it's been very solid) or provide Henson with excuses (he shouldn't need any if Romo continues to perform as well as he has), is that it will provide Bill with a bit of insulation against the public outcry that will otherwise occur when Bledsoe inevitably lets us down. Few will be screaming for Bledsoe to be given the hook in favor of Romo, if and when Bledsoe stinks it up. Judging by last year, however, a number of us would cry out to see Henson get some development time if he were the backup. Not having to deal with that has to be weighing on Bill's mind in approaching this decision, given his penchant for sticking with his guys (as evidenced by Vinnie's situation last year).

That immediately crossed my mind as well..that another frightful first team performance by Dre B on Monday nite, followed by even a decent one by Drew H. will lead to the beginnings of a QB 'controversy'. One that even Bill would not be able to relieve by saying "this is what I was trying to do with Bledsoe" again.

But I quicky dismissed the idea, Outlaw Hero. It is fundamentally so unfair, and so unlike Bill to keep down a player based on what media and fans think....he proved last year he could care less.

If DH isn't given the chance to lead the second team and remnants of the first this year, there has to be another reason than Tuna's "fear" of a QB controversy.

In 03, when explaining game time given to both Q and H, he said "what is fair is not always equal." In other words, Q was so far ahead, that game reps time were best spent preparing him as starter.

It could be Tony is so far ahead, Bill is going to give him as many reps as possible with the first/second team to find out if he needs to being a vet in.

Second on the depth chart or not, tho, Henson's spot is assured. Doesn't bother me at all if he plays second or third in preseason, so long as we see steady improvement in his game. We can gauge that whether he's throwing to Glenn, Crayton, or Merrit.

[percyhoward]

Yeah, could be that you're right and I've overstated my point. I just get the sense, however, that Henson is already a fan favorite and that the difficulty would be exacerbated if he were the backup.

As for Parcells not caring: I find that hard to believe. He may not respond to the outcry, but a man as driven by ego as he is can't help but take notice of it.
It's one thing to take notice of it, it's another thing to let it dictate personnel decisions. I'm sure Parcells cares about how he's perceived, but not to the point where it would affect the make-up of the team. After all, team success equals a Parcells achievement.

As tempting as it is to read things into this, I think it comes down to either one of the three QB's stepping up, or Parcells just going with the vet.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I love JFE because she is nonstop Cowboys tlak but she was mistaken. Julius was meant to play 2 or 3 series at the most not Bledsoe.

Dallas has exactly 11 points in the last 3 preseason openers. Guess where they scored them?

BP did not want this team feeling good about itself this week as he never does. Its the last week of tearing the team down before it starts to build it back up. Guys will start getting cut.


Mission accomplished JT. Right about now, that OL should be loading clips with .45 loads and writting letters to there loved ones.

[Bach]

Bledsoe is so washed up. Anyone who thinks he's the answer to our problems is delusional. Sure, he's younger than Vinny, but really, who in the NFL isn't?

But age really has nothing to do with it. And I'm sick of the "bus driver" mentality to our QB situation. I'm sick of the QC's, Hutch's, Vinny's, and now the Drew's and UDFA's like Romo.

We've been there and done that. It would be nice to actually draft a quality QB early on in the draft. And, I know there are no sure-things, but to constantly run out on the field these also-rans and major projects is really getting old.

I'm sure it's possible to win a Super Bowl and be a contender with an average QB - BUT you have to be dominant in just about all other areas.
And besides, it's been awhile since we've even had an "average" QB or better. And it's definitely been awhile since we've dominanted in any other areas.

I love football season and the Cowboys, but the excitement level just really isnt' there like it used to. It's getting old hoping we can maybe finish above .500 and be a wild card team "if we stay healthy and everything goes our way."

Until we get a quality, young, franchise caliber QB in here, then we're just wasting time. I am excited to see guys like Julius and Witten and then the y young rookies and possibly improved defense - but it's definitely time we invest a high pick and $$$ on a QB.

[Outlaw Heroes]

That immediately crossed my mind as well..that another frightful first team performance by Dre B on Monday nite, followed by even a decent one by Drew H. will lead to the beginnings of a QB 'controversy'. One that even Bill would not be able to relieve by saying "this is what I was trying to do with Bledsoe" again.

But I quicky dismissed the idea, Outlaw Hero. It is fundamentally so unfair, and so unlike Bill to keep down a player based on what media and fans think....he proved last year he could care less.

If DH isn't given the chance to lead the second team and remnants of the first this year, there has to be another reason than Tuna's "fear" of a QB controversy.

In 03, when explaining game time given to both Q and H, he said "what is fair is not always equal." In other words, Q was so far ahead, that game reps time were best spent preparing him as starter.

It could be Tony is so far ahead, Bill is going to give him as many reps as possible with the first/second team to find out if he needs to being a vet in.

Second on the depth chart or not, tho, Henson's spot is assured. Doesn't bother me at all if he plays second or third in preseason, so long as we see steady improvement in his game. We can gauge that whether he's throwing to Glenn, Crayton, or Merrit.

Can't say that you don't make a persuasive argument. I have to say, however, that I have less faith in the purity of Bill's motivations than you appear to have.

My recollection is that he's made other statements (also in connection with the Hutch/QC controversy) to the effect that he's not worried about being fair (though I could be wrong).

As for holding a player down because of what the fans and media think, I can't help but think that he did precisely that in refusing to play Henson at the end of last season, even after the team had been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The impression I got was that Bill was sending a not-so-subtle message to those clamoring for Henson (including perhaps Jerry), and the message was "%$^& you! He'll play when I want him to play."

Perhaps, however, I'm being entirely too uncharitable. Perhaps Bill didn't let Henson touch the field for the last two games because he really was concerned with "losing the player". If so, that may still be a concern. And if it is, he may try to spare both himself and the team the distractions and headaches entailed by having to deal with the inevitable public demand for Henson once Bledsoe starts to go south.

Then again, I don't rule out the alternative explanations you've proposed (including that Romo may be so far ahead that the team is best served by getting him as many reps as possible). It's just that I can't shake the suspicions I've already outlined.

[LaTunaNostra]

Can't say that you don't make a persuasive argument. I have to say, however, that I have less faith in the purity of Bill's motivations than you appear to have.

My recollection is that he's made other statements (also in connection with the Hutch/QC controversy) to the effect that he's not worried about being fair (though I could be wrong).

As for holding a player down because of what the fans and media think, I can't help but think that he did precisely that in refusing to play Henson at the end of last season, even after the team had been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The impression I got was that Bill was sending a not-so-subtle message to those clamoring for Henson (including perhaps Jerry), and the message was "%$^& you! He'll play when I want him to play."

Perhaps, however, I'm being entirely too uncharitable. Perhaps Bill didn't let Henson touch the field for the last two games because he really was concerned with "losing the player". If so, that may still be a concern. And if it is, he may try to spare both himself and the team the distractions and headaches entailed by having to deal with the inevitable public demand for Henson once Bledsoe starts to go south.

Then again, I don't rule out the alternative explanations you've proposed (including that Romo may be so far ahead that the team is best served by getting him as many reps as possible). It's just that I can't shake the suspicions I've already outlined.

I think Bill kept Drew off the field for two reasons those last two games last year, even after no shot at the playofrs was possible.

One reason was a (futile it turned out) attempt to go into the offseason on a 'winning note'. Bill's talked before about the importance of that, especially for young players. He believes a winning 'tude carries on thru the offseason conditioning, minicamps, etc.

The other more important reason is that Drew's throwing mechanics were going to be worked on in the offseason, and the feeling that playing him before that re-training would actually do more harm than good.

I don't think it had anything to do with 'us'...or Vinny...by then any possible QB controversy was moot. Bill would have loved it, imo, had Drew been 'ready' . But he knew he wasn't, and wouldn't let fan or media demands push him into doing something detrimental to the player or team.

[SultanOfSix]

I think Bill likes Drew Henson. I really do. I think he likes Romo too. I don't think Bill is playing any games whatsoever. I think he's preparing them both, but I think he's preparing Romo to be a backup, and I think he believes Henson can and will be a starter in this league. I base this supposition on two particular events last year. He has stated before that "Henson's time will come" (I am looking at this statement from a positive perspective), and he also made mention of Rothlesburger in the context of speaking about Henson, and how a team needs to be developed around him.

[Zaxor]

Can't say that you don't make a persuasive argument. I have to say, however, that I have less faith in the purity of Bill's motivations than you appear to have.

My recollection is that he's made other statements (also in connection with the Hutch/QC controversy) to the effect that he's not worried about being fair (though I could be wrong).

As for holding a player down because of what the fans and media think, I can't help but think that he did precisely that in refusing to play Henson at the end of last season, even after the team had been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The impression I got was that Bill was sending a not-so-subtle message to those clamoring for Henson (including perhaps Jerry), and the message was "%$^& you! He'll play when I want him to play."

Perhaps, however, I'm being entirely too uncharitable. Perhaps Bill didn't let Henson touch the field for the last two games because he really was concerned with "losing the player". If so, that may still be a concern. And if it is, he may try to spare both himself and the team the distractions and headaches entailed by having to deal with the inevitable public demand for Henson once Bledsoe starts to go south.

Then again, I don't rule out the alternative explanations you've proposed (including that Romo may be so far ahead that the team is best served by getting him as many reps as possible). It's just that I can't shake the suspicions I've already outlined.

Outlaw I was thinking along the same lines but LTN has a very probable explaination... and I hope she is right though I think it may turn out that you are

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think Bill likes Drew Henson. I really do. I think he likes Romo too. I don't think Bill is playing any games whatsoever. I think he's preparing them both, but I think he's preparing Romo to be a backup, and I think he believes Henson can and will be a starter in this league. I base this supposition on two particular events last year. He has stated before that "Henson's time will come" (I am looking at this statement from a positive perspective), and he also made mention of Rothlesburger in the context of speaking about Henson, and how a team needs to be developed around him.

I think this is a very astute observation on your part. I think Romo may end up being the #2 guy but Henson could be the starter in years out.

It's interesting because the time frame for Henson, I think, was always a couple of year in BPs mind. I just don't think BP feels as if he's ready regardless. I mean, I don't think he would be opposed to playing him if he showed lights out but I suspect, as many have said, that he plan for Henson is 06 and out. I do, however, believe that there is a plan in mind for Henson.

[Outlaw Heroes]

Outlaw I was thinking along the same lines but LTN has a very probable explaination... and I hope she is right though I think it may turn out that you are

Yeah, I really hope she's right too. And I'm glad she's around to point out the beauty marks where people like you and I see warts. :o:

[blindzebra]

Funny how she could know that, considering that Parcells told everyone before the game that each quarterback would play one-third of the game, and that's exactly what happened.

Perhaps they were counting on 2 or 3 10 play drives, instead of 3 and outs.;)

[percyhoward]

Parcells doesn't have to worry about proving who's boss. If we're more likely to win with Henson at QB than with Romo, then Henson will be ahead of Romo on the depth chart. Like he was last year, until it became obvious we weren't going anywhere.

When did Parcells demote Henson to 3rd string last year? It wasn't when Testaverde started to struggle. It was after we lost to the Saints and got eliminated from the playoffs.

[Kilyin]

When did Parcells demote Henson to 3rd string last year? It wasn't when Testaverde started to struggle. It was after we lost to the Saints and got eliminated from the playoffs.

From what I remember Henson got demoted for all of a day or two, and was back at the #2 spot before the next game was played.

[Chocolate Lab]

Good thread and nice posting by NorthDalAl and OutlawHeroes. :thumbsup:

I just wonder what's going to happen if Bledsoe looks as bad as he did against the Cards two or three games down the road. Unfortunately, I think we're going to get the opportunity to find out.

[percyhoward]

From what I remember Henson got demoted for all of a day or two, and was back at the #2 spot before the next game was played.
Romo was #2 for one week, the game at Philly.

Point being, if Parcells was really worried about distractions, wouldn't he have bumped Romo up to #2 five weeks earlier, after Vinny stunk it up in Cincy?

Parcells' decisions have nothing to do with our opinions. Thank God.

[Zaxor]

Yeah, I really hope she's right too. And I'm glad she's around to point out the beauty marks where people like you and I see warts. :o:

Guilty as charged my friend ... :(

but I too am glad for LTN's uncanny ability to cut through the ugly :)

[Fletch]

It's not a cheap shot. It's the truth unfortunately. Bledsoe has real problems in the pocket at this point.

Problems with DE's hanging around his neck directly after the ball is snapped. ;) Give the man some time and he can hit his receivers. :cool:

[Bach]

I just wonder what's going to happen if Bledsoe looks as bad as he did against the Cards two or three games down the road. Unfortunately, I think we're going to get the opportunity to find out.

I agree. I don't think it's going to be pretty.

And with some problems at RT and elsewhere on the line as well as an aging WR corps, I forsee quite a few offensive problems this year.

I hope the defense will gel and somehow carry the team.

[blindzebra]

Problems with DE's hanging around his neck directly after the ball is snapped. ;) Give the man some time and he can hit his receivers. :cool:

What game were you watching?

I saw snap, one thousand one, pat, one thousand two, pat, one thousand three, get happy feet, pat, move into the rush, pat, get hit, fumble.;)

Much of the pressure was self-inflicted, by Peppermint Patty.:D