QB contingency plan 2006

[ghst187]

So let's say (for the sake of discussion) that its obvious Bledsoe doesn't have anything left, that Romo is a career backup, and Henson isn't the franchise dude we wanted him to be and we find all of this out during the course of the coming season...
What do we do next offseason?
Do we trade up and take a QB? (a QB that would be a rookie and take another 2-3 yrs to find out if he's even any good)
do we take someone's backup or extra qb? If so whom?
Make a play for Rivers or Brees?
Volek? Shwaub?

[Mike 1967]

So let's say (for the sake of discussion) that its obvious Bledsoe doesn't have anything left, that Romo is a career backup, and Henson isn't the franchise dude we wanted him to be and we find all of this out during the course of the coming season...
What do we do next offseason?
Do we trade up and take a QB? (a QB that would be a rookie and take another 2-3 yrs to find out if he's even any good)
do we take someone's backup or extra qb? If so whom?
Make a play for Rivers or Brees?
Volek? Shwaub?

Try for all of the above until something breaks.

Bottom line (in the scenario you created) we should be putting are full energies to acquiring a franchise QB. Prefereably not 1 at the end of his prime.

Is it any coincidence that we were SB winners with Roger and Troy and have not done much of anything since Troys skills faded and since he went away ?

[Billy Bullocks]

i agree Mike. However, we wont get a franchise QB at the end of his career. Teams dont give up franchise QB's if they've got one. You're going to have to take a risk at QB and hope you hit on something. you can find good WR's and RB's, but QB's are hard to find. If you have a good one, you dont just let him get away

[ndanger]

So let's say (for the sake of discussion) that its obvious Bledsoe doesn't have anything left, that Romo is a career backup, and Henson isn't the franchise dude we wanted him to be and we find all of this out during the course of the coming season...
What do we do next offseason?
Do we trade up and take a QB? (a QB that would be a rookie and take another 2-3 yrs to find out if he's even any good)
do we take someone's backup or extra qb? If so whom?
Make a play for Rivers or Brees?
Volek? Shwaub?
I would say the latter,Rivers,Brees,Volek or Shaub.Hindsight tells us we missed the boat on Dellhome.With Brees being possibly the safest and the others basically the same crapshoot as Henson in my opinion.But hey the more you fish the more fish you catch.

[Mike 1967]

i agree Mike. However, we wont get a franchise QB at the end of his career. Teams dont give up franchise QB's if they've got one. You're going to have to take a risk at QB and hope you hit on something. you can find good WR's and RB's, but QB's are hard to find. If you have a good one, you dont just let him get away

Agreed.

But some would tell you that we have a franchise QB now in Bledsoe.

But you hit the nail on the head.....teams are not in the habit of releasing franchise QB's

Other than the rare occasion where a team has two franchise QB's on the same roster. Which by my recollection is rare.

But...it just might be the case in San Diego :)

[Mike 1967]

But hey the more you fish the more fish you catch.

good point !

For what it's worth, I like the analogy

[Billy Bullocks]

I think we could get one from SD. Id like to see Brees do it again before I give up any major compensation. Remember when Kordell "Slash" Stewart had a Pro Bowl year and led Pittsburgh to the AFC CHampionship. He couldnt even start in Chicago after that.

Volek will probably stay in Tennesse because he knows he is the heir apparent to Air Mcnair. And he may be on the last leg of his career.

[poke]

if bledsoe fails..and romo isnt a capable backup..and henson is a bust
this year..we shouldnt have to trade very far up to get the 1st pick.
if all that happens then its time to try and pick the next franchise qb
from the college ranks. or we could trade that very high pick for someone
elses # 2 QB and stay in this mess we are in.

[CM Duck]

First of all, let's see if Breez can have another good year like he did last year. If he does, then let's pray that Jerry opens the wallet! If not, let's hope Tuna goes another route.

One QB that I have always liked is Mike McMahon. He use to play for the lions (now with the eagles), and I always thought he had a tremendous up-side. He was just a victim of the lions drafting Harrington and dumping alot of cash into him so naturally you knew who the lions would give the ball to.

I think it will be a LOOOOOOONG shot that we can get him, probably would have to give up a draft pick for him (next season). But trust me, this kid can play QB. He's mobile, has a strong arm, and has a little bit of Favre in him(his style of game, not Brett Favre actually in him, eeewwww!) If he had a good coaching staff around him, I think he could blossom into a pretty good QB.

And no I am not saying this because the espn jabronies were talking him up, I have always liked the way he played and I wish we could have picked him up during the offseason.

[Mike 1967]

if bledsoe fails..and romo isnt a capable backup..and henson is a bust
this year..we shouldnt have to trade very far up to get the 1st pick.


Good point...albeit a depressing one !

We would also probably be in the market for a new head coach as Parcells would either be in a wheel chair, the hospital...or the ground.

[blindzebra]

We've made our bed and if it turns out the future is not on the team we are screwed.

We will probably be good enough to be picking too late to draft a top tier QB.
So we'd be looking at a longer term prospect in the draft.

All of the unproven/semi-proven back ups are on teams with very fragile QBs, and even then they are no sure thing.

There will be more of the Vinny, Bledsoe types to continue the re-tread cycle in our future.

We better hope Henson's potential or Romo's moxie can carry the day, or we are gonna need this defense to become 85 Bears-like if we are going to get #6 in the next decade.

[Cbz40]

We've made our bed and if it turns out the future is not on the team we are screwed.

We will probably be good enough to be picking too late to draft a top tier QB.
So we'd be looking at a longer term prospect in the draft.

All of the unproven/semi-proven back ups are on teams with very fragile QBs, and even then they are no sure thing.

There will be more of the Vinny, Bledsoe types to continue the re-tread cycle in our future.

We better hope Henson's potential or Romo's moxie can carry the day, or we are gonna need this defense to become 85 Bears-like if we are going to get #6 in the next decade.

:hammer:

[Tristan]

First off I think there is still a very high likelyhood of Drew Henson making great progress between his second and third year and thus making him a superior option to any draft pick. If however he does not progress as expected then my preference would be to pry Phillip Rivers away from S.D. assumming Brees Has another steller year. He would be my first choice because he has Super Star potential IMO, and would have already had two years of development. My second choice would be to trade up and acquire Matt Leinhart of USC. My third choice would be to aquire Drew Brees if S.D. decided to keep Rivers. If Henson does not pan out I will regret that we did not try to trade up with Cincinatti for Carson Palmer. It was rumored that they loved Newman and were interested in trading down. I love Newman, and think he will be one of the best CB's in the league for a long time, but When you have a chance to get a franchise QB, and you need one you do it!

[junk]

Well, to tell you the truth, I expect Bledsoe back next season no matter what. If Henson and Romo turn out to be busts, I would start looking hard for a guy coming out of his rookie deal that has been a backup to an established QB.

[The30YardSlant]

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[zagnut]

I was in Jacksonville over the weekend and saw the Jags. They have a really good prospect behind Leftwich in David Gerrard. The announcers were saying he was struggling in camp, but it didn't look like it in the game. They were playing Miami though. He's a guy who might be had via free agency. I think he's unrestricted after this season.

Dave Ragone at Houston is also a guy who might hit free agency just as we find ourselves lookig for a QB.

[Wolverine]

Right now I am not worried about drafting a QB in one of the next drafts. Both Romo and Henson did good in the Cards game and the reports from practices say that Romo is doing good and Henson is improving.

[junk]

I was in Jacksonville over the weekend and saw the Jags. They have a really good prospect behind Leftwich in David Gerrard. The announcers were saying he was struggling in camp, but it didn't look like it in the game. They were playing Miami though. He's a guy who might be had via free agency. I think he's unrestricted after this season.

Dave Ragone at Houston is also a guy who might hit free agency just as we find ourselves lookig for a QB.

He signed an extension with them I believe. Garrard was one I had been watching as well.

[JackMagist]

There has been quite a bit of talk about SD and Brees or Rivers. So my question is if we cut a deal for Rivers do we then have David Lee try to correct his mechanics? I think I know the consensus opinion around here but what will Parcells and Sean Payton have to say about it?

[noshame]

I think you can take Parcells out out of the equation. if Bledsoe flops, Romo can't get it done as a starter, and Henson is trash, Bill will bail in a heartbeat.

[Wolverine]

There has been quite a bit of talk about SD and Brees or Rivers. So my question is if we cut a deal for Rivers do we then have David Lee try to correct his mechanics? I think I know the consensus opinion around here but what will Parcells and Sean Payton have to say about it?


I would pass on both Rivers and Brees. Brees has a weak arm and can not throw deep good. Rivers mechanics are worse then Hensons ever were by alot.

People in here who think Romo lacks arm strenght(they are wrong Romo DOES have a strong arm) would really not like Rivers or Brees. Romo has them both beat in arm strength. Romo is alot more athletic and mobile then Rivers.

I would rather take my chances with Romo or Henson.

[KingTuna]

Drew Bledsoe is the Starting QB in 2005 AND 2006 barring injury...

Write it down...

And for everyone who thinks that is a BAD thing....Let's see if you still feel that way in December..................

[The30YardSlant]

I would pass on both Rivers and Brees. Brees has a weak arm and can not throw deep good. Rivers mechanics are worse then Hensons ever were by alot.

People in here who think Romo lacks arm strenght(they are wrong Romo DOES have a strong arm) would really not like Rivers or Brees. Romo has them both beat in arm strength. Romo is alot more athletic and mobile then Rivers.

I would rather take my chances with Romo or Henson.

While I do like Romo, Brees can throw the deep ball better than Romo.

And Rivers has more arm strength than either of them

[Hiero]

I wouldnt mind trying to trade for Rivers as long as he gets a new contract, which probably isnt likely. However he has a chance to be a "Franchise" QB which volek and schaub imo will never be. Sometimes you gotta take that risk, but I think it'd be a lot easier to just use our first round pick next year on a QB. There's only so long we can wait on Henson before we get another backup plan. Romo's never gonna start, hes a career starter, and Bledsoe has at best 2 years left, maybe even 1.

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this is the answer.

[Hiero]

Omar Jacobs would be amazing for the team, gotta love those MAC Qb's ( I think thats the MAC). Anyways, we have a solid chance of getting a pretty high pick next year, we will most likely know by next year whether or not we need some new blood in at QB or if Henson will be the future starter.

[Trag3344]

its funny how people are just throwing drew henson out the door. guys, hes going to take at least 3-4 years to get good again, hes like a rookie only worse. he aint even touched a football in god knows how many years. give the guy a break and let him become that franchise qb we are all looking for. trust me hes worth the wait and he will be better than any qb the nfl has ever seen, i promise you that.

[The30YardSlant]

its funny how people are just throwing drew henson out the door. guys, hes going to take at least 3-4 years to get good again, hes like a rookie only worse. he aint even touched a football in god knows how many years. give the guy a break and let him become that franchise qb we are all looking for. trust me hes worth the wait and he will be better than any qb the nfl has ever seen, i promise you that.

Please, just stop :lmao2:

[blindzebra]

its funny how people are just throwing drew henson out the door. guys, hes going to take at least 3-4 years to get good again, hes like a rookie only worse. he aint even touched a football in god knows how many years. give the guy a break and let him become that franchise qb we are all looking for. trust me hes worth the wait and he will be better than any qb the nfl has ever seen, i promise you that.

I have high hopes, but I'll never go that far.

I'm hoping he becomes a solid starter, that plays within himself, limits mistakes, and can carry the team when needed.

[Hiero]

its funny how people are just throwing drew henson out the door. guys, hes going to take at least 3-4 years to get good again, hes like a rookie only worse. he aint even touched a football in god knows how many years. give the guy a break and let him become that franchise qb we are all looking for. trust me hes worth the wait and he will be better than any qb the nfl has ever seen, i promise you that.
It's gonna take a while for him to develop, we all know that. at the same time, we cant wait 4 years, with no other option at QB and then have Henson not be the future. That's what we did when Aikman was nearing the end of his career, we did nothing about it, and its destroyed our team for the past 5+ seasons. We cant wait forever for Henson to become the starter without some other options. That's setting us up for failure and a few years of losing

[Hiero]

How do you know he will be the franchise QB? are you a professional scout? ex pro QB? some kind of coach/assistant with the Cowboys?

[Trag3344]

whats a few more years of losing when you can embark of a decade of winning with henson? just give it time..

i told my girlfriend during that half of bears game that henson played last year... that i was seening flashes of greatness in him. his leadership might just be the best i've ever seen, granted im not real old but man this is something special here.. trust me.

[blindzebra]

How do you know he will be the franchise QB? are you a professional scout? ex pro QB? some kind of coach/assistant with the Cowboys?

The same way others say he's a bust, it's an opinion. We have not seen enough to know either way.

For the long term good of the franchise, which opinion is better?;)

[Hiero]

I hope the last post was a joke, because it was funny.

[blindzebra]

I hope the last post was a joke, because it was funny.

Which last post?

[Hiero]

whats a few more years of losing when you can embark of a decade of winning with henson? just give it time..

i told my girlfriend during that half of bears game that henson played last year... that i was seening flashes of greatness in him. his leadership might just be the best i've ever seen, granted im not real old but man this is something special here.. trust me.
sorry not yours, you posted while i was typing, the above post is the one im talking about.

We have no idea what will happen with Henson, but are we going to keep signing 35 year old guys forever in hopes that someday Henson will be the Man? At some point we are going to have to bring in some young guys. and this next year is gonna be that time. If Henson is still a question mark at the end of this season, we dont necessarily have to give up on him, but were gonna have to bring a young guy in, maybe even if were lucky get a real Franchise QB type like Omar Jacobs.

[blindzebra]

sorry not yours, you posted while i was typing, the above post is the one im talking about.

We have no idea what will happen with Henson, but are we going to keep signing 35 year old guys forever in hopes that someday Henson will be the Man? At some point we are going to have to bring in some young guys. and this next year is gonna be that time. If Henson is still a question mark at the end of this season, we dont necessarily have to give up on him, but were gonna have to bring a young guy in, maybe even if were lucky get a real Franchise QB type like Omar Jacobs.

But anyone we draft is still a project, that may not ever work out or take 3-4 years to work out.

I think what we do depends much more on Romo at this point. If he continues to make strides and looks like he can be a starter or at worst a steady back up, we have more time. If not, I think we'll draft a QB 3rd round or later.

If with the adjusted motion Henson is, what we have been hearing, basically a rookie, he would have a leg up on any rookie QB we bring in via the draft. He had franchise potential before the layoff, so I think it's stupid to start the entire process over until we have another year of development.

[Wolverine]

HeavyHittaWhile I do like Romo, Brees can throw the deep ball better than Romo.

And Rivers has more arm strength than either of them[/quote]



Maybe Brees has more accuracy on the long ball but he can not throw as hard as Romo. With Rivers the scouting reports questioned his arm strength and some reports had him listed as below average others average.

If it comes to needing to rifle the ball to a WR the Romo has both them beat cuz he throws harder then both of them.

Some people dont realize that yeah Romo does have a strong arm. Just not as strong as Henson. And I think cuz of that people think Romo doesnt have a strong arm.

I bet if you were to line up Romo Rivers and Brees and have them gun the ball 35 yards to a target Romos would get their first.