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LaTunaNostra
06-24-2004, 10:15 PM
How the Cowboys roster stacks up
08:52 PM CDT on Thursday, June 24, 2004

By MATT MOSLEY / DallasNews.com


All is silent at Valley Ranch, but that doesn't mean we can't stir up some Cowboys talk. CowboysPlus.com ranked the top 30 most valuable Cowboys on this season's team. We understand that players such as safety Darren Woodson and guard Larry Allen have secured spots among the all-time Cowboys greats, but this list is all about the present. We asked ourselves which players the Cowboys would have the hardest time doing without. So we now give you CowboyPlus.com's first offseason top 30 list:

1. Roy Williams, S: Already the most feared defensive back in the NFL as he enters his third season. His punishing style allows him to change a game with one play.

2. Flozell Adams, LT: Cowboys coach Bill Parcells says he has a chance to be among the best to play the game. That's good enough for us. And Adams happens to play the most important position on the line because he protects the quarterback's blindside.

3. Terence Newman, CB: Already on the cusp of becoming a Pro Bowler in just his second season. In a division that now includes Terrell Owens, Newman could emerge as one of the top cover guys in the NFL.

4. Quincy Carter, QB: Get your e-mails ready, Quincy bashers. But Carter's improvement – or lack thereof – will largely determine whether the Cowboys make a run at the playoffs. That gives him top-5 value.

5. Vinny Testaverde, QB: Whoever is the backup quarterback for the Cowboys is almost always the most popular – and valuable – player on the team. Chad Hutchinson was the exception last season. Parcells will have a much quicker hook on Carter now that Vinny's in town.

6. Julius Jones, RB: Sure, he hasn't played in an NFL game, but he's already one of the most valuable players on the team. The Cowboys don't have another viable option. Either Jones gives them 1,100 yards or the team misses the playoffs. No pressure.

7. Greg Ellis, DE: Maybe the most underrated player on the team. His move to the left side should lead to a career-high sack season.

8. Keyshawn Johnson, WR: Will give Carter a reliable possession receiver for the first time in his career. He'll be a valuable part of the rushing game because of his superior blocking skills.

9. La'Roi Glover, DT: Very steady player, but he'll have a lighter workload this season because of the emergence of defensive tackle Daleroy Stewart. He's still the most consistent defensive lineman on the team.

10. Marcellus Wiley, DE: He is the X-factor on this defense. He and Ellis have the potential to combine for at least 16 sacks this season, which would be a huge improvement from the forgettable Ekuban Era.

11. Dat Nguyen, LB: Led the team with 140 tackles last season. And with the exception of a poor game on Thanksgiving against the Dolphins, Nguyen played well enough to be a Pro Bowl starter.

12. Larry Allen, LG: Even if he's a shell of his former self, Allen can still be dominant at times. If he truly has turned the corner with his conditioning and has made up with Parcells, Allen could play a major role on this team.

13. Jason Witten, TE: Became Carter's security blanket last season. Could become the steal of the 2003 draft if he continues to improve. He could end up with 50 catches this season.

14. Dexter Coakley, LB: He may be able to hold off second-year player Bradie James for one more season. He and Nguyen may be the best tacklers on the team, but they must create more turnovers.

15. Darren Woodson, S: At 35, he's not the impact player he once was. This could be Woodson's last season.

16. Willie Blade, DT: Started 15 of 16 games last season, but we haven't heard much from him this offseason. He could end up getting pushed by Leo Carson … once Carson he gets out of jail.

17. Al Johnson, C: Another unknown commodity, but Parcells seems to be high on him. Johnson says he's almost fully recovered from microfracture knee surgery. His progress is the reason last year's starter, Matt Lehr, is now a backup guard.

18. Andre Gurode, RG: Talk about a short leash. His penalty parade caused Parcells to sit him down last season. This is Gurode's make-or-break season.

19. Jacob Rogers, RT: The Cowboys expect the rookie to start at right tackle, and that's why they moved Kurt Vollers to left tackle. Rogers will compete for the job with second-year player Torrin Tucker.

20. Terry Glenn, WR: Had 52 catches and five touchdowns last season, but he needs to be more consistent. Glenn sometimes loses his focus during games, which leads to drops.

21. Pete Hunter, CB: He would've had a tough time cracking the top 50 early last season. A broken forearm and some costly mental errors almost got him cut. But now Parcells is calling Hunter one of the more improved players on the team.

22. Al Singleton, LB: Was a steady player last season, but he doesn't make many big plays. Singleton does have the size (6-2, 228) that Parcells likes.

23. Bradie James, LB: By the end of training camp, James could actually move into the top 10. Parcells says the light bulb came on for James late last season. He's already an outstanding special teams player, and he'll push Coakley for more playing time this season.

24. Dan Campbell, TE: One of the best blocking tight ends in the league. Campbell also has good hands and can make 20-25 catches per season.

25. Billy Cundiff, K: Everyone was ready to run him out of town after he missed an extra point and short field goal against Atlanta, but he bounced back. His 23-for-29 performance last season was enough to keep him around for one more season.

26. Leo Carson, DT: Carson has the speed and quickness to challenge for the starting job at nose tackle. If given enough plays, Carson could finish with at least five sacks.

27. Daleroy Stewart, DT: Parcells is very high on Stewart, whom he says looks like a completely different person after a solid offseason. Stewart's improvement will allow the Cowboys to rest Glover.

28. Richie Anderson, RB: Led the team last season with 69 catches, but this season he'll primarily be a third-down back. Parcells wants to protect Anderson, who will turn 33 in September.

29. Stephen Peterman, RG: The rookie out of LSU will be ready to step in if Gurode doesn't improve during training camp. Peterman has the nasty streak that Gurode is missing.

30. Antonio Bryant, WR: If he's still around, he may throw a jersey in my face. Bryant edged out defensive end Eric Ogbogu for the final spot.

E-mail mmosley@dallasnews.com

BrownSugar
06-24-2004, 10:54 PM
Pretty good list there..

Tricky-22
06-24-2004, 10:56 PM
I agree with pretty much everyone on that list.

All About the D
06-25-2004, 12:48 AM
Dat only at the # 11 spot?! RIDICULOUS!!!! Vinny T at 5!? Big time negative!!! I am not down with this list. This seems like a "make everyone happy chart"

AdamJT13
06-25-2004, 02:15 AM
We asked ourselves which players the Cowboys would have the hardest time doing without.

It doesn't look like that's how this list was formed. For example, Quincy Carter is at No. 4. But if we're without him, we have the guy who Mosley put at No. 5, Vinny Testaverde. On the other hand, if we're suddenly without Day Nguyen, he gets replaced by Jamal Brooks.

Smith22
06-25-2004, 02:31 AM
It doesn't look like that's how this list was formed. For example, Quincy Carter is at No. 4. But if we're without him, we have the guy who Mosley put at No. 5, Vinny Testaverde. On the other hand, if we're suddenly without Day Nguyen, he gets replaced by Jamal Brooks.
I agree. That list doesn't make any sense to me at all. I would have Newman as our number 1, and he has Glover ranked too low IMO. Losing Glover would really hurt us in the middle IMO. Losing Newman would really kill our secondary, leaving us with TWO question marks at corner. Billy the kid at 25? I don't get it.

MichaelWinicki
06-25-2004, 05:37 AM
I agree. That list doesn't make any sense to me at all. I would have Newman as our number 1, and he has Glover ranked too low IMO. Losing Glover would really hurt us in the middle IMO. Losing Newman would really kill our secondary, leaving us with TWO question marks at corner. Billy the kid at 25? I don't get it.


I agree Smith22. Losing Roy Williams for the season due to injury or losing Terrance Newman for the season with an injury...


In my world it's no contest. Newman is more valuable at this point.

lkelly
06-25-2004, 10:06 AM
7. Greg Ellis, DE: Maybe the most underrated player on the team. His move to the left side should lead to a career-high sack season.

21. Pete Hunter, CB: He would've had a tough time cracking the top 50 early last season. A broken forearm and some costly mental errors almost got him cut. But now Parcells is calling Hunter one of the more improved players on the team.


I thought Ellis was playing on the right side this coming season.

I disagree with the importance of Pete Hunter. If he's indeed going to start, he easily vaults into the top 10. Unless teams agree not to throw to one side of the field, then he'll be the focus of the other teams' passes. That makes him much more important than the backup QB or a rookie OT that may not even play.

ABQCOWBOY
06-25-2004, 10:18 AM
Interesting that Tucker isn't even on this list. Rodgers is the one that is being looked to in this article as the starting RT but I'm not so sure. I think that Tucker might be the guy and that would make him a very important piece of the offensive puzzle along with Gurode and Johnson. Honestly, if those three guys can play well this year, that probably means that Quincy plays well, the running game is there and our WRs/TEs have a good year. In short, I think he's key.

TruBlueCowboy
06-25-2004, 10:49 AM
I'd probably list Terence Newman, Dat Nguyen and Roy Williams 1-2-3 on the list. The defense is what makes this team and those are three players who have pukes backing them up. There would be a huge difference in play if one of those players was replaced with his backup.

I'd probably list Julius Jones and Flozell Adams next. Julius IS the running game this year and Flozell is the only consistent offensive lineman we have who always protects our QB's blind side.

I'd follow that with La'Roi Glover and Keyshawn Johnson.

coach316
06-25-2004, 10:54 AM
7. Greg Ellis, DE: Maybe the most underrated player on the team. His move to the left side should lead to a career-high sack season.

Why is it every time I read an article on the Cowboys from a beat reporter they ALWAYS have them playing on the opposite side they actually play?

Wimbo
06-25-2004, 11:03 AM
What I love about this list is that 8 of the top 20 are guys that have been drafted in the past 3 years. I remember Troy Aikman making a very good point about the 2001 squad not having any starters from the prior 3 years draft picks... now we have 8, and the team is much better. Good signs.

BlueStar II
06-25-2004, 11:05 AM
I was surprised to see Hunter down in the spot where he's listed at. I thought he would have been higher than that.

Hollywood Henderson
06-25-2004, 11:05 AM
I think Glover is overrated as is Dat the "nat"....
Other players could easily step into those spots and do well...

aikemirv
06-25-2004, 11:09 AM
I think Glover is overrated as is Dat the "nat"....
Other players could easily step into those spots and do well...

I don't think that any of the front seven are overated, especially Dat. They allowed only 89 yds a game vs the run. I am not sure how you can say they are overated.

Double Trouble
06-25-2004, 11:11 AM
How the Cowboys roster stacks up
08:52 PM CDT on Thursday, June 24, 2004

By MATT MOSLEY / DallasNews.com


All is silent at Valley Ranch, but that doesn't mean we can't stir up some Cowboys talk. CowboysPlus.com ranked the top 30 most valuable Cowboys on this season's team. We understand that players such as safety Darren Woodson and guard Larry Allen have secured spots among the all-time Cowboys greats, but this list is all about the present. We asked ourselves which players the Cowboys would have the hardest time doing without. So we now give you CowboyPlus.com's first offseason top 30 list:

1. Roy Williams, S: Already the most feared defensive back in the NFL as he enters his third season. His punishing style allows him to change a game with one play.

2. Flozell Adams, LT: Cowboys coach Bill Parcells says he has a chance to be among the best to play the game. That's good enough for us. And Adams happens to play the most important position on the line because he protects the quarterback's blindside.

3. Terence Newman, CB: Already on the cusp of becoming a Pro Bowler in just his second season. In a division that now includes Terrell Owens, Newman could emerge as one of the top cover guys in the NFL.

4. Quincy Carter, QB: Get your e-mails ready, Quincy bashers. But Carter's improvement – or lack thereof – will largely determine whether the Cowboys make a run at the playoffs. That gives him top-5 value.

5. Vinny Testaverde, QB: Whoever is the backup quarterback for the Cowboys is almost always the most popular – and valuable – player on the team. Chad Hutchinson was the exception last season. Parcells will have a much quicker hook on Carter now that Vinny's in town.

6. Julius Jones, RB: Sure, he hasn't played in an NFL game, but he's already one of the most valuable players on the team. The Cowboys don't have another viable option. Either Jones gives them 1,100 yards or the team misses the playoffs. No pressure.

7. Greg Ellis, DE: Maybe the most underrated player on the team. His move to the left side should lead to a career-high sack season.

8. Keyshawn Johnson, WR: Will give Carter a reliable possession receiver for the first time in his career. He'll be a valuable part of the rushing game because of his superior blocking skills.

9. La'Roi Glover, DT: Very steady player, but he'll have a lighter workload this season because of the emergence of defensive tackle Daleroy Stewart. He's still the most consistent defensive lineman on the team.

10. Marcellus Wiley, DE: He is the X-factor on this defense. He and Ellis have the potential to combine for at least 16 sacks this season, which would be a huge improvement from the forgettable Ekuban Era.

11. Dat Nguyen, LB: Led the team with 140 tackles last season. And with the exception of a poor game on Thanksgiving against the Dolphins, Nguyen played well enough to be a Pro Bowl starter.

12. Larry Allen, LG: Even if he's a shell of his former self, Allen can still be dominant at times. If he truly has turned the corner with his conditioning and has made up with Parcells, Allen could play a major role on this team.

13. Jason Witten, TE: Became Carter's security blanket last season. Could become the steal of the 2003 draft if he continues to improve. He could end up with 50 catches this season.

14. Dexter Coakley, LB: He may be able to hold off second-year player Bradie James for one more season. He and Nguyen may be the best tacklers on the team, but they must create more turnovers.

15. Darren Woodson, S: At 35, he's not the impact player he once was. This could be Woodson's last season.

16. Willie Blade, DT: Started 15 of 16 games last season, but we haven't heard much from him this offseason. He could end up getting pushed by Leo Carson … once Carson he gets out of jail.

17. Al Johnson, C: Another unknown commodity, but Parcells seems to be high on him. Johnson says he's almost fully recovered from microfracture knee surgery. His progress is the reason last year's starter, Matt Lehr, is now a backup guard.

18. Andre Gurode, RG: Talk about a short leash. His penalty parade caused Parcells to sit him down last season. This is Gurode's make-or-break season.

19. Jacob Rogers, RT: The Cowboys expect the rookie to start at right tackle, and that's why they moved Kurt Vollers to left tackle. Rogers will compete for the job with second-year player Torrin Tucker.

20. Terry Glenn, WR: Had 52 catches and five touchdowns last season, but he needs to be more consistent. Glenn sometimes loses his focus during games, which leads to drops.

21. Pete Hunter, CB: He would've had a tough time cracking the top 50 early last season. A broken forearm and some costly mental errors almost got him cut. But now Parcells is calling Hunter one of the more improved players on the team.

22. Al Singleton, LB: Was a steady player last season, but he doesn't make many big plays. Singleton does have the size (6-2, 228) that Parcells likes.

23. Bradie James, LB: By the end of training camp, James could actually move into the top 10. Parcells says the light bulb came on for James late last season. He's already an outstanding special teams player, and he'll push Coakley for more playing time this season.

24. Dan Campbell, TE: One of the best blocking tight ends in the league. Campbell also has good hands and can make 20-25 catches per season.

25. Billy Cundiff, K: Everyone was ready to run him out of town after he missed an extra point and short field goal against Atlanta, but he bounced back. His 23-for-29 performance last season was enough to keep him around for one more season.

26. Leo Carson, DT: Carson has the speed and quickness to challenge for the starting job at nose tackle. If given enough plays, Carson could finish with at least five sacks.

27. Daleroy Stewart, DT: Parcells is very high on Stewart, whom he says looks like a completely different person after a solid offseason. Stewart's improvement will allow the Cowboys to rest Glover.

28. Richie Anderson, RB: Led the team last season with 69 catches, but this season he'll primarily be a third-down back. Parcells wants to protect Anderson, who will turn 33 in September.

29. Stephen Peterman, RG: The rookie out of LSU will be ready to step in if Gurode doesn't improve during training camp. Peterman has the nasty streak that Gurode is missing.

30. Antonio Bryant, WR: If he's still around, he may throw a jersey in my face. Bryant edged out defensive end Eric Ogbogu for the final spot.

E-mail mmosley@dallasnews.com
Based on their value to the team:
1. Terrence Newman (by a mile)
2. Flozell Adams
3. Roy Williams
4. Dat Nguyen
5. Julius Jones (if he fails or is hurt, who'd replace him?)
6. Laroi Glover
7. Al Johnson (IMO, any big improvement in the OL starts with him)
8. Jason Witten (IMO, the only receiver/TE who can be a long-term answer)
9. Hunter/Thornton (somebody has to be at least adequate at RCB)
10. Carter/Testaverde (if they both fail, Henson probably plays and we'll have another top 10 pick)

Lord Sun
06-25-2004, 11:47 AM
Lord Sun's Annual Top 10 Most Indispensable Cowboys List, 2004:

1. Richie Anderson, RB: Here's the scenario - you have a thin receiving corps and a rook as your primary ball-carrier in an offense that was anemic last season. How important is your most experienced rusher and leading pass-catcher? I thought so. Could be ranked lower if Q has a good year and Juice Jones comes through the way Jerruh and Bill hope he does.

1a. La'Roi Glover, DT: A line already short on talent would be devastated without Glover. Wiley and Ellis would become our best linemen, and as much as I expect them to accomplish WITH Glover next to them, I would not bank on them without him.

3. Terence Newman, CB: Inasmuch as he's the only proven CB on the team, Newman will not be thrown at - much. Nonetheless, his presence will be vital, and his ability to stay focused could make or break the backfield.

4. Roy Williams, S: Devastating at the LOS and not a bad man to have in coverage, all thigns considered, but it's his hitting that sets him apart. This guy is nothing but a playmaker.

5. Flozell Adams, LT: Had a terrific season when many thought he would have mailed it in. If he's motivated by the plaudits he received from the media, his team, colleagues and fans in 2003, he will be a beast this year.

6. Julius Jones, RB: As vital a position as QB is, you'd be hard-pressed to think of a man with more pressure on him on the offensive side of the ball than Juice Jones. There is NO depth at RB, so it pretty much falls on this kid. Lose him, we're dead, and then #6 has to face six-man backfields.

7. Quincy Carter, QB: Should Carter fail this year, there is plenty of backup. Vinny is the most obvious man, ready to come in and contribute at the drop of a hat. But it would be more of a case of Q losing the job than vice versa.

8. Dat Nguyen, LB: Losing Dat in the middle of the defense would be akin to losing Glover, though the LB corps can shuffle a little more readily than can the DL, and with less devastating repercussions. Yes, I know they had a top-rated defense with no real QB pressure, but Dat was a big part of that.

9. Jason Witten, TE: Easily a top-five offesnive weapon on this team, and he could have the ability to vaukt into the uppoer echelon of the NFL. This season, despite having a more diverse TE corps backing him up, Witten could be more important - and definitely better - than any 'Boys TE since Novacek.

10. Keyshawn Johnson, WR: Let's just say that he'd better not trip over his mouth, or Dallas will be in a pretty sorry state. Reasonably durable, though, so the fact that he will have to be THE man on offense should depend only on his skill level, and his willingness to be a team player.


Missing out, and why:
Al Johnson, C (it was tough leaving this one out, and he is vital, but I think Lehr and Dinapoli can hold on if Big al is missing. Granted, they're not meant to be as good as he is, but they're serviceable); Dexter Coakley, LB (Bradie should emerge if Dex breaks down); Andre Gurode, OL (lots of competition at his position, and he's not really made his mark, at that); Darren Woodson, S (I'm a Keith Davis apologist); Willie Blade, DT (the presence of Carson will push this kid, hard); Larry Allen, OG (just couldn't find space, really)

Smith22
06-25-2004, 11:50 AM
I think Glover is overrated as is Dat the "nat"....
Other players could easily step into those spots and do well...
Unreal. You never cease to amaze me with your comments.

pancakeman
06-25-2004, 11:52 AM
Lord Sun's Annual Top 10 Most Indispensable Cowboys List, 2004:

Very well argued. I would still move Quincy down and Newman to the top.

Lord Sun
06-25-2004, 11:53 AM
Based on their value to the team:
1. Terrence Newman (by a mile)
2. Flozell Adams
3. Roy Williams
4. Dat Nguyen
5. Julius Jones (if he fails or is hurt, who'd replace him?)
6. Laroi Glover
7. Al Johnson (IMO, any big improvement in the OL starts with him)
8. Jason Witten (IMO, the only receiver/TE who can be a long-term answer)
9. Hunter/Thornton (somebody has to be at least adequate at RCB)
10. Carter/Testaverde (if they both fail, Henson probably plays and we'll have another top 10 pick)

Interesting, Double. Great minds think alike, or fools seldom differ?

I included Richie and Key for your Hunter and Johnson. I explained why I left Johnson out, but my reasoning for Hunter/Thornton is that they are about the same, and unless one of them really stinks up the park, I don't think we lose a great deal by having either one out there. On the other hand, they could both be mess, but that would simply mean they have no plkace on this list, or this team.

Lord Sun
06-25-2004, 11:58 AM
Very well argued. I would still move Quincy down and Newman to the top.

I did consider moving Q down to # 10, but even with the experience and knowledge of Vinny backing him up, I think the offense is made or broken by what Quincy Carter brings to it. At present, you could say that since the QB situation is comparatively well settled, the two RB's are harder to lose than any one QB, hence my rankings.

As for Newman, again I gave that a great deal of thought. Nobody will throw at him, really, unless Hunt-ton plays out of his skin. Without him, our pass defense is altered to cataclysmic effect. But despite the supposed depth at DL, I can't see anyone else there CONSISTENTLY commanding double-teams, as Glvoer does routinely, freeing up his linemates.

LaTunaNostra
06-25-2004, 12:06 PM
20. Terry Glenn, WR: Had 52 catches and five touchdowns last season, but he needs to be more consistent. Glenn sometimes loses his focus during games, which leads to drops.


If Terry Glenn, the most talented offensive skills player on this team, and the only impact player, finishes at the 20th most valuable spot, I doubt we post a winning record.

Mosley is correct that Terry appeared to lose focus at times last year. Whatever his issues are, who cares. Switch from Prozac to Wellbutrin or something, but pay attention. Keyshawn is going to be opening up the field for Terry, he's GOT to take advantage of it.

big dog cowboy
06-25-2004, 10:15 PM
What I love about this list is that 8 of the top 20 are guys that have been drafted in the past 3 years. I remember Troy Aikman making a very good point about the 2001 squad not having any starters from the prior 3 years draft picks... now we have 8, and the team is much better. Good signs.

I was thinking the same thing. Look at the list again at all the players that we not on the roster 3 years ago.