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LaTunaNostra
06-25-2004, 12:46 PM
Dale Hansen: Shut up and play
01:45 AM CDT on Friday, June 25, 2004

WFAA-TV (Ch. 8) sports anchor Dale Hansen has been around these parts since 1981, covering sports every weeknight at 6 and 10 p.m. and Sunday nights on Dale Hansen's Sports Special.

Antonio Bryant has found his way to the doghouse already. What were your thoughts on the Antonio Bryant situation and will he have a chance to redeem himself?

I am assuming he is going to have a chance to redeem himself because he is still here. I don't know that we know the full story on this. My reaction was, if he actually did get into a shouting match and throw a jersey in Bill Parcells' face, I don't know why he's still here. I don't know if that's actually what happened but, at the same time, Parcells is the type of guy who gives "talent" a lot of rope. He certainly did it for Lawrence Taylor. He's done it for a lot of players. If Bryant threw a jersey in Parcells' face and he makes the team in September, he must be a helluva a player. To me, I'd throw him out in a heartbeat. But, if he's as good as the Cowboys hope he can be, I am sure Parcells is going to give him a chance to get out of the doghouse. Talent still wins football games and you never have enough of it.

Is there something to be said for Parcells' appreciation for a player's intensity?

There is something to be said for that. I do get tired of guys – especially guys like Antonio Bryant, who had a terrible season last year, whining about not getting enough chances. I understand the argument. I understand the great thing about intensity. But, shut up and play. Parcells has proven, without question that, if you are good enough to play, you're going to play. I think he likes Keyshawn Johnson and has a lot of faith in him. Antonio Bryant doesn't have any skins on the wall. He doesn't have any right to be whining. This isn't Drew Pearson we're talking about here. I would like to think he would be smart enough to shut up. But, it's probably one of the reasons the Cowboys were able to get Bryant so late in the draft. He's a bit of a head case and we've seen that. I like intensity. I like guys who want to get on the field and produce. But, he didn't do that last year.

In some way, could this be a test for someone like Keyshawn Johnson to step up and be a leader?
I don't know how he can be a leader. I am not as sold on him as a lot of people are. Troy Aikman said a while back that any time a player is whining about how much he wants the ball, it's not about helping the team win, it's about wanting the ball more. There are very few team players in sports. Aikman was one of the best at putting his stats aside and being committed to winning. Keyshawn couldn't get along with Jon Gruden after they won a Super Bowl, I've got a lot of reservations as to what kind of a role he can play on this team as a leader. To me, that's a little bit of a problem.

One guy they expect to be a leader is Vinny Testaverde. What do you see as his role and do you think he understands it?

I hope he understands it. And, I think he does. It's a nice signing, but I don't think he's the starter. I think he can be a leader and a conduit between Bill Parcells and the players. The guy is 40 years old and if he's the answer, then what's the question? If he is the answer, then it says more about the league than about Testaverde. But, he is the kind of backup quarterback the Cowboys desperately needed, and they were very lucky that they didn't find themselves exposed last season. I think he can help Quincy Carter or Drew Henson develop. He understands that. If he's better, then he should play and he's entitled to that. He'll get a chance in training camp.

Five weeks to the start of training camp. What do you consider to be the most intriguing story heading to Oxnard?

I like where this team is headed. It's possible that they could be better, yet not win 10 games. I like a lot of things about this team. I am anxious to see if they made the right decision at running back. I am anxious to see if Quincy Carter is as bad as a lot of people seem to think he is. I am anxious to see if Drew Henson is as good as a lot of people think he is. There are a lot of things to watch with this team. It should be a fun season.

Little Jr
06-25-2004, 01:02 PM
If he is the answer, then it says more about the league than about Testaverde.


I don't think it says much about the league but the Cowboys QB situation.

All About the D
06-25-2004, 03:52 PM
Troy Aikman said a while back that any time a player is whining about how much he wants the ball, it's not about helping the team win, it's about wanting the ball more.

Very well put.

ravidubey
06-25-2004, 10:07 PM
In some way, could this be a test for someone like Keyshawn Johnson to step up and be a leader?
I don't know how he can be a leader. I am not as sold on him as a lot of people are. Troy Aikman said a while back that any time a player is whining about how much he wants the ball, it's not about helping the team win, it's about wanting the ball more. There are very few team players in sports. Aikman was one of the best at putting his stats aside and being committed to winning. Keyshawn couldn't get along with Jon Gruden after they won a Super Bowl, I've got a lot of reservations as to what kind of a role he can play on this team as a leader. To me, that's a little bit of a problem.


This is so true. Keyshawn was a throwaway player who I'm expecting absolutely nothing from. I'm hoping he surprises the Hell out of me!

Q_the_man
06-26-2004, 02:35 AM
Dale Hansen: Shut up and play
01:45 AM CDT on Friday, June 25, 2004

In some way, could this be a test for someone like Keyshawn Johnson to step up and be a leader?
I don't know how he can be a leader. I am not as sold on him as a lot of people are. Troy Aikman said a while back that any time a player is whining about how much he wants the ball, it's not about helping the team win, it's about wanting the ball more.
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I could have swore Mike Irvin wanted the ball all the time and YES he was a Leader! And Yes, Irvin wanted to win!

OldMan
06-26-2004, 04:06 PM
Gee Q what am I doing agreeing with you? Yes Irvin wanted the ball, and he wanted to win. He liked to hot dog, but they say it's not hot dogging if you can walk the walk, it's just fact. Hope we get some of that kind of play out of our team this year.

SALADIN
06-26-2004, 04:47 PM
Troy Aikman said a while back that any time a player is whining about how much he wants the ball, it's not about helping the team win, it's about wanting the ball more.

Very well put.

I understand what Troy is saying. But if Mike (#88) was ever quiet in the huddle and never demanded the ball then not only would Troy be concerned the Cowboys organization would have never been what we know it as and we would just be a bunch of eagle fans talking about championships instead of winning them.

I don’t sympathize with Bryant, he was wrong and I would have cut him like an old rusty razor. But I am of the opinion that there is a fine line between winning and wanting to be the one who is responsible for making the victory possible.

Whether it was catching a pass, breaking up a pass, making that extra block, or making the tackle. I believe that a real teammate does everything they can do to help their team win.

Losing is a terrible feeling, losing and not being able to have done more about it is worse.

Maybe I’m just selfish too

OldMan
06-26-2004, 08:31 PM
"Losing is a terrible feeling, losing and not being able to have done more about it is worse."
Losing is a terrible feeling, losing and being able to have done more but not doing it is even worse.

jimmy40
06-26-2004, 08:58 PM
I could have swore Mike Irvin wanted the ball all the time and YES he was a Leader! And Yes, Irvin wanted to win!Keyshawn Johnson is no Mike Ervin.

cwboy1
06-28-2004, 07:15 AM
Keyshawn Johnson is no Mike Ervin.

Nor is he Michael Irvin. :D

BrAinPaiNt
06-28-2004, 07:26 AM
Nor is he Michael Irvin. :D


Or Steve Irwin

http://www.brainofc.com/stevebiopic.jpg

:p

MichaelWinicki
06-28-2004, 07:43 AM
Or Steve Irwin

http://www.brainofc.com/stevebiopic.jpg

:p


Nor is he even "Wild Bill Irwin"...

http://www.passion-power.com/WildBillIrwin.bmp

LaTunaNostra
06-28-2004, 07:56 AM
Or Michael, sigh, Irving.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/12/26/officer.killed.03/texas.irving.jpg

MichaelWinicki
06-28-2004, 08:48 AM
Or Michael, sigh, Irving.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/12/26/officer.killed.03/texas.irving.jpg


Well done LaTuna... well done.

keds
06-28-2004, 02:11 PM
What is the name of the woman that you include pictures of in your posts?

Az Lurker
06-28-2004, 02:12 PM
But there is a highway sign in Dallas that says Irvin-Bryant, and as soon as I get my scanner working I'll post a picture of it (but don't hold you breath)

tyke1doe
06-28-2004, 03:09 PM
I don't want to make this a social or racial issue so please don't take it that way. But there's a difference between the way Aikman was raised and the way Keyshawn was raised.

Aikman came from a blue collar family which instill blue-collar values into his psyche. If you were raised this way (like myself), then you learned to respect authority, to take one for the team, etc.

Keyshawn, if I'm not mistaken, was raised in a typical urban setting, where you learn to question authority and mistrust male role models unless they prove to you they're worthy of your trust. Similarly, you learn to play the game with a bit of selfishness.

I don't like Keyshawn nor his me-ism. But I can understand why he is who he is. Guys like Keyshawn won't just play for anyone. They have to respect the person in charge, otherwise they'll always be a showdown. Just because he mouths off or displays a "me first" attitude, doesn't mean he won't do what's necessary for the team. Remember, he has said one of the reasons he didn't like Gruden is because he told him one thing and did another. Keyshawn wanted to be level with on the up and up. He says the reason he respects Parcells is because Parcells has always been honest with him. You want me to just block? Okay, then just tell me.

So I can understand, even though I don't necessarily agree with the approach, why Keyshawn would have more respect for Parcells than Gruden and why his "me first" attitude rubs Aikman the wrong way. I remember Aikman saying in an interview one day while playing high school (or was it Pop Warner) football he start bragging about winning (or something like that) and his mother grabbed him by the nap of the neck and told him she'd better not ever hear him do that again. (Which I agree with, by the way) He never did and learned that he should take winning with humility. So I can understand why he would apparently diss Keyshawn.

I prefer Aikman's approach but I understand Keyshawn based on the time I've spent with guys from the inner city.

LaTunaNostra
06-28-2004, 07:08 PM
I don't want to make this a social or racial issue so please don't take it that way. But there's a difference between the way Aikman was raised and the way Keyshawn was raised.

Aikman came from a blue collar family which instill blue-collar values into his psyche. If you were raised this way (like myself), then you learned to respect authority, to take one for the team, etc.

Keyshawn, if I'm not mistaken, was raised in a typical urban setting, where you learn to question authority and mistrust male role models unless they prove to you they're worthy of your trust. Similarly, you learn to play the game with a bit of selfishness.

I don't like Keyshawn nor his me-ism. But I can understand why he is who he is. Guys like Keyshawn won't just play for anyone. They have to respect the person in charge, otherwise they'll always be a showdown. Just because he mouths off or displays a "me first" attitude, doesn't mean he won't do what's necessary for the team. Remember, he has said one of the reasons he didn't like Gruden is because he told him one thing and did another. Keyshawn wanted to be level with on the up and up. He says the reason he respects Parcells is because Parcells has always been honest with him. You want me to just block? Okay, then just tell me.

So I can understand, even though I don't necessarily agree with the approach, why Keyshawn would have more respect for Parcells than Gruden and why his "me first" attitude rubs Aikman the wrong way. I remember Aikman saying in an interview one day while playing high school (or was it Pop Warner) football he start bragging about winning (or something like that) and his mother grabbed him by the nap of the neck and told him she'd better not ever hear him do that again. (Which I agree with, by the way) He never did and learned that he should take winning with humility. So I can understand why he would apparently diss Keyshawn.

I prefer Aikman's approach but I understand Keyshawn based on the time I've spent with guys from the inner city.


Could be Tyke, but I kinda think upbringing has little to do with Keyshawn's "approach".

He could have been born on the top of the Himalayas with no humans within a radius of 1000 miles, and he'd still be "chirping". Born to a king, a pauper, or the Dali Lama and still making it about "Meshawn". Lived in the Stone Age or five hundred years into the future, and still be unable to zip it.

He's just freakin irrepressible. :p