View Full Version : Henson must go to Europe next spring
bbgun
08-23-2005, 09:33 PM
If he stinks it up over there and at camp next year, then we can rightfully cut him.
DWAREZ
08-23-2005, 09:41 PM
Henson is the man :) Give him some man-love :)
Hostile
08-23-2005, 09:41 PM
If he stinks it up over there and at camp next year, then we can rightfully cut him.Don't put hard earned cash on it. I think the team is disillusioned with the results for QBs.
bbgun
08-23-2005, 09:42 PM
He desperately needs reps against live action, and that ain't happening on Bill's watch.
Dave_in-NC
08-23-2005, 09:46 PM
Don't put hard earned cash on it. I think the team is disillusioned with the results for QBs.
I trhink they are confused between QBs and baseball players. :eek:
But then Jones might be disillusioned. ;)
Hostile
08-23-2005, 09:48 PM
I trhink they are confused between QBs and baseball players. :eek:
But then Jones might be disillusioned. ;)I don't get the disfavor with athletes being good at other sports. Man, to me the more athletically gifted they are the better.
Eskimo
08-23-2005, 09:51 PM
Whoever messed up Henson's delivery over the summer should be canned. His accuracy was very good last year and I don't recall an inordinate amount of knocked down passes. He threw no ducks and had excellent velocity. I really think they set out and fixed a problem that didn't really exist.
When we signed Bledsoe to be the starter he probably should have gone to Europe to work on picking up on the speed of the game and get some experience.
I really think they've messed up his mind a bit and he doesn't look nearly as confident and poised as he did last year. I think BP and whoever is the QB coach this year has to take the lion's share of the blame for this. I still have high hopes for Henson but he may end up flourishing elsewhere or have to wait for BP to leave.
One thing that really disappoints me is that I am now not sure if we have the future QB on the roster currently - this is something I didn't believe after last preseason.
On the bright side, Romo looks like he could be an okay backup in the league for many years. He'll turnover the ball quite a bit but does provide a spark. His arm strength is not good and he will need to learn to improve his timing to get by. He would fit in well with the WCO given his quick reads and ability to lead the WRs on their routs.
Dave_in-NC
08-23-2005, 09:52 PM
I don't get the disfavor with athletes being good at other sports. Man, to me the more athletically gifted they are the better.
If they are good yes............ I dont watch baseball, I frankley hate it. But from what I hear from fans of the game, not one of our converted guys was good at baseball. Not like that Bo guy. :D
AbeBeta
08-23-2005, 09:57 PM
Europe isn't fast enough to help anyone these days.
Hostile
08-23-2005, 10:06 PM
If they are good yes............ I dont watch baseball, I frankley hate it. But from what I hear from fans of the game, not one of our converted guys was good at baseball. Not like that Bo guy. :DMy boss's son played in High School Allstar games with Q. He said he was good, but a jerk.
Chad Hutchinson made it to the Majors. That isn't easy. Ask anyone who has ever played.
Deion was a weapon.
Henson had skills but struggled with Major League curve balls. He isn't alone. He gave it up to come back to football. I for one am glad he did.
Romo is a good to nearly great golfer.
I respect these things because every day schmos can't do them nearly as well as these men do and did.
DWAREZ
08-23-2005, 10:15 PM
Yes, I do the think the baseball knock is often a cheap attack as if all of these players are somehow destined to the same result in terms of success or lack thereof in the NFL.
We all know Henson needs time and work ...I do not see Henson being cut or prematurely expunged from the roster..they will see next year what he has and most people like Kiper ect... thought Henson needed at least 3 years of development before he is ready..that being said..he still has time.
I have seen some development in Henson but also recognize some mental/ recognition issues that still bother him that have hampered his attempts at success thus far in the pre-season. He will get more reps and will learn so the jury is still out and the verdict will still be out too :)
Dave_in-NC
08-23-2005, 10:22 PM
My boss's son played in High School Allstar games with Q. He said he was good, but a jerk.
Chad Hutchinson made it to the Majors. That isn't easy. Ask anyone who has ever played.
Deion was a weapon.
Henson had skills but struggled with Major League curve balls. He isn't alone. He gave it up to come back to football. I for one am glad he did.
Romo is a good to nearly great golfer.
I respect these things because every day schmos can't do them nearly as well as these men do and did.
And where are the two who attempted to come in to the NFL as QBs?
Carter probably had the best shot and smoked it.
Hutchinson a back up in Chicago who is now in a panick mode to find another QB.
I simply want a QB fresh from school. Is it guaranteed that they will be the next franchise qb? Nope, but I feel its a better shot. It didnt work the first two tries.
cowboyeric8
08-23-2005, 10:41 PM
Henson had skills but struggled with Major League curve balls. He isn't alone. He gave it up to come back to football. I for one am glad he did.
I agree, and also I'm sure it crossed Henson's mind that no matter how good he played he wasn't going to get play for the Yankees because they signed a guy named A-Rod that was moving to third. I know he could have gotten traded or whatever, but ya'll get what I'm saying.
Little Jr
08-23-2005, 11:00 PM
I don't get the disfavor with athletes being good at other sports. Man, to me the more athletically gifted they are the better.
For me it's not a disfavor. I think most professional atheletes excelled at more than one sport.
My problem is the past 2 out of 3 young QB's we brought in to possibly be the future hadn't played football in 3 years. The other one was also a baseball reject but at least he came from college football to the NFL. Although it didn't help him.
I swear we send scouts to baseball games. I just wish they stop trying to get a QB on the cheap.
VirusX
08-24-2005, 12:34 AM
Henson will not go to NFLE if we plan to use him next year we want him fresh as a starter and you usually dont come back fresh in Europe unless your a backup.
Dave_in-NC
08-24-2005, 07:25 AM
For me it's not a disfavor. I think most professional atheletes excelled at more than one sport.
My problem is the past 2 out of 3 young QB's we brought in to possibly be the future hadn't played football in 3 years. The other one was also a baseball reject but at least he came from college football to the NFL. Although it didn't help him.
I swear we send scouts to baseball games. I just wish they stop trying to get a QB on the cheap.
Bingo. I just wish they stop trying to get a QB on the cheap.[/QUOTE]
trickblue
08-24-2005, 07:41 AM
Ever notice how the ones that say the Q never got a fair chance when he was cut are the same ones calling for us to cut Henson?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/stuff/ironE.gif
I would like all of our young QB's to get a chance to develop... the more good prospects we have, the better...
NovaCowboy
08-24-2005, 07:43 AM
Whoever messed up Henson's delivery over the summer should be canned. His accuracy was very good last year and I don't recall an inordinate amount of knocked down passes. He threw no ducks and had excellent velocity. I really think they set out and fixed a problem that didn't really exist.
When we signed Bledsoe to be the starter he probably should have gone to Europe to work on picking up on the speed of the game and get some experience.
I really think they've messed up his mind a bit and he doesn't look nearly as confident and poised as he did last year. I think BP and whoever is the QB coach this year has to take the lion's share of the blame for this. I still have high hopes for Henson but he may end up flourishing elsewhere or have to wait for BP to leave.
One thing that really disappoints me is that I am now not sure if we have the future QB on the roster currently - this is something I didn't believe after last preseason.
On the bright side, Romo looks like he could be an okay backup in the league for many years. He'll turnover the ball quite a bit but does provide a spark. His arm strength is not good and he will need to learn to improve his timing to get by. He would fit in well with the WCO given his quick reads and ability to lead the WRs on their routs.
well said Eskimo!
Dave_in-NC
08-24-2005, 07:48 AM
Ever notice how the ones that say the Q never got a fair chance when he was cut are the same ones calling for us to cut Henson?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/stuff/ironE.gif
I would like all of our young QB's to get a chance to develop... the more good prospects we have, the better...
Never noticed. I thought Carter was a waste of time also.
Natedawg44
08-24-2005, 07:59 AM
Everyone talks like the time he spent with the Yankees might have forever screwed him up. They say he was a can't miss prospect before and blame everything on his time playing baseball. Can't miss QB prospects miss all the time ask Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Heath Schuler and Rick Mirer to name a few. The whole baseball thing could be a moot point.
aceware94
08-24-2005, 10:10 AM
Henson isn't gonna get a shot here while BP is here. BP doesn't have time to waste on him being 25 or so, he needs to win now and Bledsoe is his chance. I hope they draft a QB in next years draft like Vince Young or another young mobal QB,but one with good character unlike Quincy Carter. Groom him a year under Bledsoe and than his second year throw him in there. There only prolonging the inevitable w/ bringing in old talented QB's.
CaptainAmerica
08-24-2005, 10:17 AM
Henson isn't gonna get a shot here while BP is here. BP doesn't have time to waste on him being 25 or so, he needs to win now and Bledsoe is his chance. I hope they draft a QB in next years draft like Vince Young or another young mobal QB,but one with good character unlike Quincy Carter. Groom him a year under Bledsoe and than his second year throw him in there. There only prolonging the inevitable w/ bringing in old talented QB's.
Yeah, I thought about this last night. Bledsoe is the QB for the remainder of Bill's tenure be that 2 or 3 more years, unless he really bombs and we are losing a lot of games because of his play.
I don't agree right now, with the pick for Young even though he's an amazing athlete. First of all we probably won't get a shot at him and second, I believe he will find the transition to an NFL offense difficult. He is one that won't be ready to step in and play right after he's drafted.
Henson will, most likely, finally get his shot in a couple of years or so because he isn't being released, (Jerry won't allow that), and he is as good a developmental 3rd type QB as you will find to put on your roster.
wileedog
08-24-2005, 10:19 AM
Whoever messed up Henson's delivery over the summer should be canned. His accuracy was very good last year and I don't recall an inordinate amount of knocked down passes. He threw no ducks and had excellent velocity. I really think they set out and fixed a problem that didn't really exist.
Actually I think its a sign of the long-term strategy in place with Henson.
When they decided to make the switch, they HAD to know Drew wasn't going to be 100% comfortable with it going into camp.
However, they also knew that next year he should be, and will be a better QB down the road for having made the correction.
The 'advantage' of signing a QB like Drew "on the cheap" is you are not forced to throw him out on the field no matter what because of what you are paying him, al la Eli last year. It is one of the few opportunities you will ever have to develop a potential #1 talent at a reasonable pace, and I have always liked the move for its pro-activeness.
The fact that they altered his mechanics in the offseason shows that next year was always going to be Drew's litmus year from day one, not this year. If they were counting on him to be anything this year they wouldn't have messed with him, IMO.
Lastly, I didn't really think Drew's problems against Seattle were arm or mechanics related. On the INT he simply didn't recognize the coverage (although, for everyone harping on him, if you watch that play again Witten was his 3rd check down - enough with the 'focus' on 1 receiver nonsense). He has far better pocket awareness then Hutch ever did, but he still showed some happy feet and made a few poor decisions.
Drew will get his shot to compete next year, and if he shows the same progress and comfort going forward in comfort with the offense and confidence in the pocket that Romo has showed from year 2 to year 3, we are all going to be very happy IMO.
InmanRoshi
08-24-2005, 10:44 AM
Actually I think its a sign of the long-term strategy in place with Henson.
When they decided to make the switch, they HAD to know Drew wasn't going to be 100% comfortable with it going into camp.
However, they also knew that next year he should be, and will be a better QB down the road for having made the correction.
The 'advantage' of signing a QB like Drew "on the cheap" is you are not forced to throw him out on the field no matter what because of what you are paying him, al la Eli last year. It is one of the few opportunities you will ever have to develop a potential #1 talent at a reasonable pace, and I have always liked the move for its pro-activeness.
The fact that they altered his mechanics in the offseason shows that next year was always going to be Drew's litmus year from day one, not this year. If they were counting on him to be anything this year they wouldn't have messed with him, IMO.
Lastly, I didn't really think Drew's problems against Seattle were arm or mechanics related. On the INT he simply didn't recognize the coverage (although, for everyone harping on him, if you watch that play again Witten was his 3rd check down - enough with the 'focus' on 1 receiver nonsense). He has far better pocket awareness then Hutch ever did, but he still showed some happy feet and made a few poor decisions.
Drew will get his shot to compete next year, and if he shows the same progress and comfort going forward in comfort with the offense and confidence in the pocket that Romo has showed from year 2 to year 3, we are all going to be very happy IMO.
Good post. Totally agree. His change in mechanics have very little to do with his struggles, IMHO. Just the natural learning curve of a long term project, nothing more and nothing less.
Also, its funny to say he should have been on the field last year to see if he was mentally tough enough to handle the job, and then turn around and say he's not mentally tough enough to handle a mechanics correction without totally losing all of his confidence and letting everything fall to pieces.
ABQCOWBOY
08-24-2005, 10:55 AM
Good post. Totally agree. His change in mechanics have very little to do with his struggles, IMHO. Just the natural learning curve of a long term project, nothing more and nothing less.
Also, its funny to say he should have been on the field last year to see if he was mentally tough enough to handle the job, and then turn around and say he's not mentally tough enough to handle a mechanics correction without totally losing all of his confidence and letting everything fall to pieces.
I think the mechanics clearly effected him early in camp. I think he's started to work through them. The mistakes he's making now are rookie mistakes. I agree with both of you. I don't know, I watch him and he really doesn't look all that different from any young QB seeing playing time in the NFL. He has done some nice things and he has made some poor decisions. Any QB, at any point in there development have done the same.
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