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Mr Cowboy
08-25-2005, 11:29 AM
on the ticket or espn
Mr Cowboy
08-25-2005, 11:30 AM
Berry-o sat out this morning practice..........talking about his knee condition. Trying to manage it like Carson last year.
Mr Cowboy
08-25-2005, 11:32 AM
Ferguson at practice? Doubt will play Sat. He needs play condtioning. Working like a dog.
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 11:37 AM
Parcells thinks Pettiti can handle RT.
dargonking999
08-25-2005, 11:37 AM
well thats good if he's practicng, he needs at least one preseaosn game.
dargonking999
08-25-2005, 11:38 AM
Parcells thinks Pettiti can handle RT.
my starting RT all off season, i told ya'll :D
Verdict
08-25-2005, 11:39 AM
Parcells thinks Pettiti can handle RT.
Its good to hear that. One hole filled. Next hole to be addressed. Free safety.
TruBlueCowboy
08-25-2005, 11:41 AM
Parcells thinks Pettiti can handle RT.
That's awesome news if true. I hope Parcells isn't playing Pettiti out of RT desperation, but instead becaues he sees real potential in him. It's okay, if it's both, I just want to hear that Pettiti can be another Mark Tuinei. ;)
RedLine
08-25-2005, 11:41 AM
Bill is hoping Pettiti can get things figured out by the strat of the season. He has had several other players do it so he thinks Rob can do it also.
MrPhil
08-25-2005, 11:42 AM
Parcells thinks Pettiti can handle RT.
That is GREAT news......
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 11:42 AM
On Pettiti:
Do what you can to help him, don't want to throw him to the wolves. Carson and Ellis working with Pettiti.
Wants to play the best 5 players on the line, moving Allen to RT is not necessary at this point.
See's potential in Pettiti, not right where he wants him right now, but thinks he can figure it out relatively quick. A lot of aspects mental/physical for a RT, not like a reciever or RB.
Juke99
08-25-2005, 11:43 AM
Parcells thinks Pettiti can handle RT.
Nice birthday present for PittDawg. :D
RedLine
08-25-2005, 11:43 AM
Talking about Spears now.
Trying to see if he can play in this game.
RedLine
08-25-2005, 11:45 AM
On JuJo
Has a set number of running plays in his mind for the preseason
Has about 20 so far
Should have about 40 by the end of reseason
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 11:47 AM
Not sure is Spears will play this week, he is behind Canty Ratliff etc...
If he doesn't play this week, Spears is lucky to have 30 plays in pre-season.
Doesn't know how long Bledsoe will play on Saturday.
Keith Davis ST play will be greatly reduced if named the starter.
Julius will be playing on Saturday. Parcells had set # of carries that he wants Julius to take, not going to overload him. He wants Juliuse to carry from 35-40 time in pre-season.
Thinks Julius saw things pretty well against Seattle, RB is one position you can't get ready to play by just watching. Talked to Curtis Martin.. Curtis got off to a slow start because of lack of carries in preseason.. When Curtis got more carries in pre-season he started off strong.
RedLine
08-25-2005, 11:52 AM
Nate Jones has won some respect
Makes very few bad decisions
Thornton played the most he has ever played last week
Overall did well
Concerned about tackling
Got beat inside
Need to see some consistency
Frasier
Not on the field right now
dbair1967
08-25-2005, 11:52 AM
sounds like injury settlement for Frazier coming....
David
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 11:53 AM
Our guys aren't prepared for some plays on the defensive side of the ball since it is new. Coaches will take advantage of a weakness in a defense as long as it works.
Jones vs. Frazier Vs. Thorton
jones is intelligent, very few bad decisions, played 206 plays on ST, pretty good tackler for a small guy. Size and speed wise he is limited, he brings some things you can't see .
Thorton: played 46 plays in the game, overall did better than he ever did in limited play last year.. concerned about his tackling, but it improved this game.. Got beat inside on a slant and almost beat on a touchdown.. has to get up to speed.
Frazier not on the field right now.. Gonna work something out with him.
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 11:56 AM
Parcells assuming all bad things are gonna happen, strictly thinks on a contigency basis.
Beriault-- likes a little of what he sees, can't seem to stay on the field.
Anything technically wrong with Barber on 2 fumbles? Short sleeves, arms get wet from sweating-- used to make backs wear sleeves.. nothing technical about fumbling.
RedLine
08-25-2005, 11:56 AM
Likes Berry-O
He can’t seem to stay out there.
Bill feels the Barber fumble was due to sweaty arms
Used to make all RB wear covering on forearms
Infection was not in joint
MRTRIPOD
08-25-2005, 11:57 AM
keep it coming guys:)
CowboyManDan
08-25-2005, 11:58 AM
Just want to add he thinks Bruce Thornton has more physical ability than Nate Jones, but he has to live up to it to beat Nate Jones out.
RedLine
08-25-2005, 11:58 AM
Still fine with 3-4 defense
3-4 will be the lead defense
No second thought on use of 3-4
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 11:59 AM
Regarding a complication with Barbers foot:
Infection not in the joint, which is good. Basically after infection is gone its just a cut.
Concerned about depth at OLB.. 2 rookies and Singleton/Thorton.. Reggie not quite ready.
Parcells is with the 3-4 defense but concerned about depth.. still doesnt know percentages of each set (3-4 vs 4-3)
Parcells cracking on Mickey a little.
4 man fronts we use include 3 man front principles. Done pretty well in preseason. keep 1 guy different and 10 others the same.
Mr Cowboy
08-25-2005, 12:00 PM
Knows how many wr's will be kept, but is not saying
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 12:01 PM
not 100% set on RB/TE/FB #'s.
RedLine
08-25-2005, 12:02 PM
Used thumb tacks for receivers in the old days (25 -30 years)
AbeBeta
08-25-2005, 12:04 PM
Just want to add he thinks Bruce Thornton has more physical ability than Nate Jones, but he has to live up to it to beat Nate Jones out.
Interesting -- sounds like Frazier is getting an injury settlement... and its Jones vs. Thornton for a spot. Bill said earlier he wanted to keep 6 cbs but now it sounds like 5.
RedLine
08-25-2005, 12:04 PM
Feels like he is behind were he would like to be
PC is over
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 12:04 PM
in the old days recievers used to put thumbtacks on their fingers to aid in catching the ball. HAHA never heard of that before..
This preseason game is a little different-- short week, trying to get players ready without killing them..
4th preseason game -- will already be down to 65 players..
NYCowboy22
08-25-2005, 12:05 PM
Behind in where he wants to be-- uncertain in some areas..
**PC OVER**
MichaelWinicki
08-25-2005, 12:06 PM
my starting RT all off season, i told ya'll :D
Sorry mitten boy but there were people like Hos and myself saying that as soon as the kid was drafted. ;)
Juke99
08-25-2005, 12:12 PM
Sorry mitten boy but there were people like Hos and myself saying that as soon as the kid was drafted. ;)
Uh, yeah, either that or move LA to RT.
I have witnesses.
I have files.
I have CD back ups.
I have surveillance.
I have screen captures.
Go ahead, dare me...go ahead.
:D
Woods
08-25-2005, 12:15 PM
Sorry mitten boy but there were people like Hos and myself saying that as soon as the kid was drafted. ;)
I'm patting myself on the back as well.
InmanRoshi
08-25-2005, 12:27 PM
Fergy, more concerned about the ankle or conditioning?
Both, but the ankle more. Britt’s working him like a dog right now. He had a hard morning, and he’ll have a hard afternoon. I doubt he plays this week. There’s really nothing wrong with conditioning, he made his weight and passed his conditioning run. He needs to get acclimated to playing in the game. When you first play in a game there is a fatigue element that sets in very quickly at the first of a football game. You can exhaust yourself in 4 or 5 plays. Well conditioned guys get through it and get a 2nd wind and fall into the pace of the game. The pace of the game creates a fatigue element early in the game. Players that aren’t used to that have to acclimate to that. I don’t know if I’m explaining this exactly, but its like watching a boxing match. A young fighter can look bad a round or two, but as they get into the fight they find the pace of the match. Until you’ve been through that a couple of times. Its not as bad for a NG as it is for CB or WR where there’s no plays off.
Do you want Pettiti to lose more weight? What does he have to do to make you feel confident he can start?
He’s fine. I’ll keep him where he is. I don’t know that I’ll ever feel 100% confident in starting a rookie to start the season. I don’t know that he will start, I really don’t. That’s the way it is right now, I got him and Torrin and possibly Vollers in the mix. A week from now I’ll have to decide what to do. It would be impossible for me to be 100% confident in him, but but Shottenheimer probably wasn’t 100% certain in Shane Olivea starting for him last year, but it worked okay for him. This position that he’s playing is really a more difficult transition than for a skill player on offense. There’s a lot of mental work and technical nuances involved. If you’re a WR or a RB, you bring with you what you have, and you refine it a little bit but coaches let you do what you do. This position, players have to do what coaches want them to do. He has enough size, intelligence and his footwork is basically good enough. I think his strength is adequate at this point, but its not where he will be in a year or two. Peterman and Tucker are much stronger than when they came here. At that position, you have to deal with power. You would think 6’6” 325 lbs. can deal with power, but you have to deal with speed as well. He’ll face both of them. So I’ve got Kenyon trying to beat him up with power, and Greg Ellis working with him on the corners of pass protections. I told both of them to work on him and mix it up on him.
With Kearse and Strahan in the division, does it put more emphasis on the position?
You have to consider matchups. If he’s not quite ready for that, then you have to do something to help him. That’s what you do. You don’t want to throw him to the wolves.
Jason Fabini similarities?
Both are very smart. Fabini probably technically was better off than Pettiti at this point in their careers, but Pettiti’s feet are better. Fabini already had a good idea how to pass protect. He was very well trained at U of Cinn by his OL coach. Pettiti is bigger and has better feet.
Did you ever seriously consider LA to right tackle?
The only time … lookit, they’re going after Bledsoe up the middle. I want to play the best 5 players. If I had three guys I thought were vviable players at guard, I would have considered it. Right now, I won’t rob Peter to pay Paul. Right now, my best option is keep going with what I got. You have to look down the road and project to where they will be not only September 11th but also October 1st. I had to do it with Elliot, Riesenberg, Max Lane … they eventually figured it out. It is a matter of mental and technical and physical, and any lapse in any area it can take you down. A WR comes in he knows how to run an out cut or a curl. These kids on OL it’s a whole different deal. Although, getting college offensive lineman now, with more emphasis on the pass than the days when a lot of teams ran the wish bone and power I the kids have a better idea. Some of those guys in the past had absolutely no drop back protection experience at all.
Spears look ready?
I think he’s ready to get back in. He’s got a lot to do. A LOT to do. Don’t let anyone kid you, he’s got a LOT to do. He hasn’t played in any games, and may not play this week. I told you, he’s missed out on what the rest of the kids have gotten. They’ll have 120 snaps by the time this preseason is over. Spears might be lucky to get 30. Let me see where he is next week at this time.
How much will Bledsoe go on Saturday?
I haven’t decided that yet, but I’ll probably play him a good bit.
Daily mandatory Keith Davis defense vs. special teams question.
Special teams reduced if Davis starts on defense.
Do you consider sitting Julius out of preseason?
No, he’s playing. I don’t want a good player to be hurt, but I know a RB has to have set # of carries in the preseason. I’ve done it with all the backs I’ve had, my entire history. Its not an overload. He’s got about 20 carries under his belt right now in games. I’d like for him to have maybe 35-40 by the end of preseason. I think he had his timing pretty good the other night, but that’s one position where you can not get ready to play by watching. I had a long discussion with Curtis Martin on it last year. He started the season slow two years ago because they held him out of preseason. He was running into the back of defenders. He said he didn’t know what he was doing out there. Last year he got his 30-40 carries in preseason and had 120 yards rushing in Week 1.
What was happening on all the TE catches against Seattle?
What the yare doing to us .. and this is inexperience. They are making a hard inside fake at the MLB, make him bite and throw quickly to the TE over him. Mike Holmgren has been running that play for the 20 years that I’ve known him. But .. our guys just aren’t ready. We’ll see it again this week. Houston does it. It’s the recognition we’re having trouble with. Its okay. You have to do the first things first. But when Coaches see something that works, and you’ll keep seeing it until you get it fixed. Coaches are exploitive people, they’re not mercifull. If you have a pitcher that throws the ball 100 mph, he should keep throwing it until 27 are out. No need to throw a changeup. But its good that this stuff comes up now. Houston does similar stuff. San Diego will try it. That’s the way it is.
Backup CB’s with Nate Jones vs. Thorton vs. Reeves.
Nate Jones is a guy that wins your respect that ge is extremely intelligent. Extremely. He makes few bad decisions. Very few. He had 206 plays on special teams last year. For a small guy, he will tackle. He’s a heady guy. Size and speed wise, he’s limited. But he’s in this league because he brings things you can’t see. I thought Thornton last week, first of all it’s the most he’s ever played 46 plays, I thought .. overall … he did quite a bit better than I’ve ever seen him do. Now, he only played 3 plays last year. I’m concerned about his tackling, but he did better in this game than I’ve ever seen him. He got beat inside on a slant and almost got beat for a TD, may have grazed the ball, but I do need to see consistency. I like his ability. He’s got physical ability, but doesn’t bring as much in some other areas as Nate does. We’ll see if he can get that up to speed. Frazier is not on the field, we’ll try to work something out with him .. I don’t mean with other teams.
Coady. What are you looking for?
Just looking for a little help. We’re down to 9 days now. I hope he can just bring more experience. I’m in a position now where I’m assuming all bad things will happen. Okay? My mental outlook, I’m looking at all bad things will happen and figuring contingency plans. I’m going to assume that I’m going to lose this guy, and that guy and then this guy … even if I’m not. What am I going to do? That’s where I talk to Jeff Ireland and tell him “Okay, this is the hand we’re dealt. Where do we go?””
Is that standard for this time of year?
I wish it wasn’t quite this much.
Coady plays FS?
Coady plays FS.
Bariault over 2 preseason games.
I like a little about what I see, but if you can’t stay out there .. you may have some great thoughts as a writer JJT, but if you can’t type them out no one will ever know?
MBIII fumble problems on Monday Night technical?
These kids wear short sleeves and get wet arms from sweating. For years I made all RB’s wear pads on their arms. For many years. Ball slips because of perspiration, That’s what basically happened. Other than that, there’s nothing technical about fumbles. They should learn how to hold the ball in 4th grade.
Barber expected to miss?
I don’t know about the infection. It wasn’t in the joint. That’s good. They flush it out and give him some antibiotics, and after that you’re dealing with a cut basically.
Still worried about depth at OLB?
I’m very concerned about that. I got two rookies there and Singleton and Thornton. Reggie isn’t ready. That’s another one of these contingency plans.
Still onboard with the 3-4?
Oh I’m with it. Its just a matter of what you do when someone gets hurt. I don’t know the percentages, but that will be our lead defense and we’ll sprinkle in some 4 man lines. No second thoughts there. And the 4 man fronts we are using are using 3 man front principles at every postion except for 1 guy. We keep 1 guy different, and 10 other the same.
Atrain set on the roster or is he a bubble guy?
I never said he was a bubble guy. You said that. But, really, its not about him. I’m just not 100% set there at that position. It’s a combination of TE, FB and RB’s as a group collectively how many I keep. I have a set number I’ll keep, and I’ll have to figure out how many at each position. AT WR’s, I know how many I’m going to keep, but I’m not going to tell you.
So you do advocate wearng sleeves for your players?
Yes, I do advocate it. Yes. In cold weather and hot weather. In cold weather the ball gets slicker. I like a roughed up fabric. Some of my kids turn those rubber sleeves over that have a rough fabric lining on the outside.
Have you ever put stickem on there?
That’s against the rules. When it was legal? Oh, kids used it in practice. Linebackers used it in practice. You know, we used to use thumbtacks in the old days for WR’s. Back when there were no rules, they would take the thumbtacks and file them down. Use bands aid to strap them on and they would have claws. Very effective for wet balls. But that was years ago, 25 to 30 years.
Are you still looking at the 3rd preason game as the dress rehersal like in the past?
I can’t do it like I have in the past because it’s a short week. So I’m just getting players as ready as I can.
You said you would like the lineup set by this game. Are you there yet?
I got the ones and twos set at a few positons, but the whole number I don’t have yet.
Are some of the starting battles still up for grab? Like center?
I’ll let some of them go for a little while.
So will the 4th preason game be more important than usual?
I don’t know if I’ll be able to do that either. Youre already down to 65 players by that game. You know last year we played the Chiefs with Vermeil, I’ve known him for a long time and we kind of coordinated what we wanted to do.
Are you more behind where you’d like to be at this time?
Yeah, I am. Because of some uncertainties. Honestly.
DBoys
08-25-2005, 12:29 PM
Uh, yeah, either that or move LA to RT.
I have witnesses.
I have files.
I have CD back ups.
I have surveillance.
I have screen captures.
Go ahead, dare me...go ahead.
:D
:laugh2:
MichaelWinicki
08-25-2005, 12:29 PM
I'm patting myself on the back as well.
LOL!
:)
MichaelWinicki
08-25-2005, 12:31 PM
Uh, yeah, either that or move LA to RT.
I have witnesses.
I have files.
I have CD back ups.
I have surveillance.
I have screen captures.
Go ahead, dare me...go ahead.
:D
Honestly I'ld not have a problem with that move but when Pettiti was drafted I thought he had the stuff to be the starter on this team at the position.
TruBlueCowboy
08-25-2005, 12:32 PM
Sorry mitten boy but there were people like Hos and myself saying that as soon as the kid was drafted. ;)
Never doubt an offensive lineman who weighs almost 400 in the draft. :eek:
Still fine with 3-4 defense
3-4 will be the lead defense
No second thought on use of 3-4
eom bye bye 4-3 and good riddance
jobberone
08-25-2005, 12:55 PM
eom bye bye 4-3 and good riddance
So when Ware lines up on the DL with his hand down we are still considered to be in a 3-4?
RedLine
08-25-2005, 01:03 PM
Wow, great job as usual InmanRoshi!
CaptainAmerica
08-25-2005, 01:09 PM
Thornton did barely tip that ball in the endzone and just changed it's direction at the last split second and that contributed to the Seahawks' WR dropping it in the endzone.
You couldn't see it on the first couple of replays, but you could clearly see it on the last replay ABC showed as they were going to a commercial break.
TruBlueCowboy
08-25-2005, 01:10 PM
Wow, great job as usual InmanRoshi!
Agreed. :wink2:
K-Mart
08-25-2005, 01:14 PM
Thanks Roshi!
smashmouth
08-25-2005, 01:37 PM
You are a star Roshi! Thanks.
Glad to see that Bledsoe is going to play alot this game, I want to see if my comfort level is going to get better.
I wouldn't worry about the Fergy types, these guys don't need training camp. Most complete Vets probably don't.
Cbz40
08-25-2005, 01:39 PM
That made my day.........Congrats Rob.
Crown Royal
08-25-2005, 01:44 PM
Uh, yeah, either that or move LA to RT.
I have witnesses.
I have files.
I have CD back ups.
I have surveillance.
I have screen captures.
Go ahead, dare me...go ahead.
:D
I'm with Juke on this one.
Cogan
08-25-2005, 01:48 PM
I understand BPs' concerns w/Pettitti, but I think he's our best option at this point. I say either get aggressive with the Gragg negotiations & get the guy signed, so he can mesh w/the other O'linemen, or make a decision on Pettiti starting at RT & stick with it.
DLCassidy
08-25-2005, 01:49 PM
Parcells runs a nice PC. Interesting stuff. Thanks for the effort InmanRoshi.
Cbz40
08-25-2005, 01:52 PM
I'm patting myself on the back as well.
So am I.......
Crown Royal
08-25-2005, 01:53 PM
Backup CB’s with Nate Jones vs. Thorton vs. Reeves.
Nate Jones is a guy that wins your respect that ge is extremely intelligent. Extremely. He makes few bad decisions. Very few. He had 206 plays on special teams last year. For a small guy, he will tackle. He’s a heady guy. Size and speed wise, he’s limited. But he’s in this league because he brings things you can’t see. I thought Thornton last week, first of all it’s the most he’s ever played 46 plays, I thought .. overall … he did quite a bit better than I’ve ever seen him do. Now, he only played 3 plays last year. I’m concerned about his tackling, but he did better in this game than I’ve ever seen him. He got beat inside on a slant and almost got beat for a TD, may have grazed the ball, but I do need to see consistency. I like his ability. He’s got physical ability, but doesn’t bring as much in some other areas as Nate does. We’ll see if he can get that up to speed. Frazier is not on the field, we’ll try to work something out with him .. I don’t mean with other teams.
I'm dieing to know what he is talking about.
Still worried about depth at OLB?
I’m very concerned about that. I got two rookies there and Singleton and Thornton. Reggie isn’t ready. That’s another one of these contingency plans.
Hmmm.......
InmanRoshi
08-25-2005, 02:11 PM
I'm wondering what's going on with all the hand wringing with the OLB position, because we haven't suffered any injuries there for the most part. Whatever we have now is what we headed into camp with, which makes you wonder if someone is not playing up to an expected level. Perhaps Singleton. Otherwise, if its such an issue, a cheap outside LB experienced 3-4 should have been brought to camp like Peter Boulware or Kevin Hardy.
LaTunaNostra
08-25-2005, 02:13 PM
Thanks Roshi and NYCowboy as well.
tyke1doe
08-25-2005, 02:15 PM
When ever I see a "PC" thread, I just scan until I get to ImanRoshi's recap.
Best of the bunch.
Some interesting observations:
They should learn how to hold the ball in 4th grade.
LOL.
That’s against the rules. When it was legal? Oh, kids used it in practice. Linebackers used it in practice. You know, we used to use thumbtacks in the old days for WR’s. Back when there were no rules, they would take the thumbtacks and file them down. Use bands aid to strap them on and they would have claws. Very effective for wet balls. But that was years ago, 25 to 30 years.
That was a nice piece of history.
ABQCOWBOY
08-25-2005, 02:17 PM
I'm wondering what's going on with all the hand wringing with the OLB position, because we haven't suffered any injuries there for the most part. Whatever we have now is what we headed into camp with, which makes you wonder if someone is not playing up to an expected level. Perhaps Singleton. Otherwise, if its such an issue, a cheap outside LB experienced 3-4 should have been brought to camp like Peter Boulware or Kevin Hardy.
I agree Rosh. I have never really like Singleton but reports that he was bigger and ready to play kinda kept the thing at bay. In all honesty, I don't see him as a special player but then again, I don't see everything. I do, however, think there's something up with this.
quaigs
08-25-2005, 02:34 PM
Thanks for the recaps! Much appreciated.
Crown Royal
08-25-2005, 02:42 PM
I'm wondering what's going on with all the hand wringing with the OLB position, because we haven't suffered any injuries there for the most part. Whatever we have now is what we headed into camp with, which makes you wonder if someone is not playing up to an expected level. Perhaps Singleton. Otherwise, if its such an issue, a cheap outside LB experienced 3-4 should have been brought to camp like Peter Boulware or Kevin Hardy.
I think it's more that three are 3 unknowns at the position, and four players. With Singleton, you know what you are getting, but with Ware and Burnett, you have rookies - and there is always a bit of nail biting there. Then Thornton, who shows pass rush ability, but then again, has bad knees, etc.
I don't think Boulware would have been cheap, and as for Hardy, when you get depth, you do so to alleviate your pain if injuries occur. Not by getting an oft injured player.
MadCow
08-25-2005, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the recap, Roshi...
... and all the other posters for keeping us in the know.
Hollywood Henderson
08-25-2005, 02:48 PM
I recall Thumper saying he thought Rob would be starting at RT...
Don't recall Mikey or Hos saying it though... ;)
Portland Fanatic
08-25-2005, 02:53 PM
All said and done Ware and Burnett will be the starter at OLB.....
Maybe Thornton's injury is worse then led on?
Juke99
08-25-2005, 02:54 PM
I'm with Juke on this one.
Yes and several other thoughts as well, I'm sure.
WoodysGirl
08-25-2005, 02:56 PM
I think it's more that three are 3 unknowns at the position, and four players. With Singleton, you know what you are getting, but with Ware and Burnett, you have rookies - and there is always a bit of nail biting there. Then Thornton, who shows pass rush ability, but then again, has bad knees, etc.
I don't think Boulware would have been cheap, and as for Hardy, when you get depth, you do so to alleviate your pain if injuries occur. Not by getting an oft injured player.The lack of experience has been there since before TC, but I imagine Bill finally got a chance to see it up close and personal and realizes riding w/the youngins is not gonna be as easy as thought.
On Hardy, he was released for salary cap reasons by both Dal and Cincy (as well as a high draft pick, Pollack?). Tho he was bothered by some injuries in Cincy, he was a solid player for them. And is still available, I'm sure he can be had for cheap by now.
On the other hand, Boulware ended up going back to B-more for a 1-yr 1mil w/1mil deal in incentivies. I think he could've been had, but I don't think Dallas even stepped to the play for him.
Chocolate Lab
08-25-2005, 02:56 PM
I think it's more that three are 3 unknowns at the position, and four players. With Singleton, you know what you are getting, but with Ware and Burnett, you have rookies - and there is always a bit of nail biting there. Then Thornton, who shows pass rush ability, but then again, has bad knees, etc.
I agree. I think Parcells is just concerned with what happens if Ware gets his head in the mixer and needs a break... You have only an inexperienced Thornton behind him. Or if Al starts getting run over... You only have a rookie behind him.
But surely Parcells knew this before he implemented this system... It's not like we've had a rash of injuries at that spot.
It also makes you glad we drafted Burnett instead of Barnes or some of the other guys mentioned at his spot... Where would we be without him?
LaTunaNostra
08-25-2005, 02:58 PM
Jason Fabini similarities?
Both are very smart. Fabini probably technically was better off than Pettiti at this point in their careers, but Pettiti’s feet are better. Fabini already had a good idea how to pass protect. He was very well trained at U of Cinn by his OL coach. Pettiti is bigger and has better feet.
That was interesting about the feet.
Specially considering Jason Fabini plays left tackle.
I think Tuna also mentioned both players had the same OL coach in college.
That might have been another 'voice' telling Bill to draft Rob.
adbutcher
08-25-2005, 06:31 PM
Thanks Roshi
Banned_n_austin
08-25-2005, 07:03 PM
Its good to hear that. One hole filled. Next hole to be addressed. Free safety.
Look no further than JB.
BTW, I'm going to love saying that all the time, "JB". It just sounds like a Cowboy. :D
JB in the HOOOOUUSE!
Banned_n_austin
08-25-2005, 07:05 PM
Nice birthday present for PittDawg. :D
Dude is a quick learner. He's made some tremendous strides from that AZ game apparently. I'm a Pettiti fan.
Go Rob!
:starspin
JackMagist
08-25-2005, 07:59 PM
Look no further than JB.
BTW, I'm going to love saying that all the time, "JB". It just sounds like a Cowboy. :D
JB in the HOOOOUUSE!I like what I saw from "JB" but if he doesn't get that knee healthy he will NOT get the starting job. You might love saying JB but you will be watching KD.
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