our offense is boring and predictable

[RoysAHitta]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

[Doomsday101]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

Dallas has not been game planning teams and yes we are running a lot of vanilla right now. This offense will do just fine. As for Crayton I don't care if he was an undated FA he is doing the job and has continue to improve as a player. Lastly you prepare for 5-11 my expectation are much higher than that

[Hoov]

There are more posts the last few weeks that offer nothing informative but are just plain whining. The cowboys brought in more than their share of FA's this year, had a very good draft, what more do you expect them to do. If they still end up at 5-11 after that then thats just the way it is, your whining about the situation isnt going to change anything.

Sorry to sound harsh and im not just picking on you, but some of these "hey guys, our team is gonna suck again and here's why" threads are getting old.

[percyhoward]

I'd wait til the regular season before finding out if we're gonna try throwing it downfield or not. We weren't afraid to go deep last year, so there would have to be a pretty big decline in OL performance if that changed this year. I really think the reason we're "boring" in these preseason games is because we're searching for our RB committee.

[sacase]

I think Parcells has made significant changes to the play book and he doesn't want anyone to know what we are doing till it is for real. If you have noticed we have been playing a VERY basic offense and defense. More so than other teams. He even stated he wasn't going to put in alot of blitzes till he was behind closed doors.

[joseephuss]

Even with a speed guy, the offense would be predictable. Bill Parcells is predictable. His coaching style isn't really about being unpredictable. He just tries to get his team to be better prepared and do things very well. The offense looked the same with Galloway, Bryant and Glenn as the receivers. You knew he was going to try to establish the run, use play action to throw down fieldd and, try to utilize draws and screens to slow down the blitz. This will be the same recipe used this season.

Besides, Dallas has a speed guy in Morgan. He just isn't a very good receiver at this time.

[RoysAHitta]

i know the problem is the coach and i hate watching our offense go out and suck year in and year out. we always run on first down and run again on second (if we got a few yards on first) and usually pass on third (because we didnt get diddly squat the first two plays). i mean are we ever going to be able to really utilize a good wr if we got one? so i really dont want to a spend a first round pick on wr if we keep running this same style of offense.

[aikemirv]

Even with a speed guy, the offense would be predictable. Bill Parcells is predictable. His coaching style isn't really about being unpredictable. He just tries to get his team to be better prepared and do things very well. The offense looked the same with Galloway, Bryant and Glenn as the receivers. You knew he was going to try to establish the run, use play action to throw down fieldd and, try to utilize draws and screens to slow down the blitz. This will be the same recipe used this season.

Besides, Dallas has a speed guy in Morgan. He just isn't a very good receiver at this time.


:hammer:

[Grizz]

i know the problem is the coach and i hate watching our offense go out and suck year in and year out. we always run on first down and run again on second (if we got a few yards on first) and usually pass on third (because we didnt get diddly squat the first two plays). i mean are we ever going to be able to really utilize a good wr if we got one? so i really dont want to a spend a first round pick on wr if we keep running this same style of offense.

Let's see, Parcells won 2 Super Bowls with this style of offense, took another team to a Super Bowl, and took another team to the AFC championship with this boring offense.

Where do I sign-up to be boring?

[InmanRoshi]

We aired it out last season, and it was a disaster.

I don't care about being unpredictable, I care about winning.

[BulletBob]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

I dunno, RAH. I seem to remember one Mr. P. Crayton getting pretty far behind a few red and gold jerseys in the closing seconds of last season ...

I'm pretty excited about this kid's potential. As you pointed out, we need to fend off the opposing blitz, but if we can, I think you'll see Bledsoe connecting quite a bit with young Mr. Crayton ... and not just on 5-yd slants!

[Galian Beast]

Have you ever heard of Drew Bennett?

And like others have said, we haven't had the opportunity to gameplan against teams. We're basically going out there and just picking plays we think will work in certain situations.

Bledsoe doesn't know these receivers, and has to become acclimated with them. Given that we're a power football offense now, it's going to be a slower time for bledsoe to get acclimated to our system and players.

Vinny passed the ball 58 times in preseason, Bledsoe has passed for 37 so far. By the end of the 3rd game Vinny had already thrown in 48 times in preseason...

That's quite a difference... and an even larger difference is the style of passing parcells allowed vinny to use compared to bledsoe. our passing game has been closed off, they aren't going deep, and they also aren't turning the ball over. They're relying on the defense to stop opposing teams, and they're doing just that.

[Hollywood Henderson]

The offense was actually quite good last year before injuries took its toll...
Look for us to breakout when the real games start...

Its the Defense that has let us down in years past...

That will no longer be the case with the changes Parcells has made there!
Just WIN baby!

[Cowboy from New York]

The offense will be boring to a point, as BP plays his offense conservative and plays to win the field position battle with McBriar who is MUCH improved over last year and also plays to win the turnover battle with the defense who now has true playmakers and game changers at several spots. No more just running WRs deep to keep Roy away from LOS and doubling Glover on the d-line. Plus Bledsoe still has a big arm and when Julius starts gashing teams and that safety comes up to help out you'll see some deep balls. I think Crayton helps out that scenario even more so as we now have a 3rd WR that is at the very least competent out there.

[Sportsbabe]

There are more posts the last few weeks that offer nothing informative but are just plain whining. The cowboys brought in more than their share of FA's this year, had a very good draft, what more do you expect them to do. If they still end up at 5-11 after that then thats just the way it is, your whining about the situation isnt going to change anything.

Sorry to sound harsh and im not just picking on you, but some of these "hey guys, our team is gonna suck again and here's why" threads are getting old.

:signmast: I totally agree with you. It's foolish to come to a conclusion about this team based on preseason. How long have some of these people been watching football? As far as the talent on the team goes, what does he want, 1st & 2nd rounders from position 1 thru 11. Ain't gonna happen. He needs to get out of the fantasy world and step into reality. It's no given that a player who is picked early in the draft is going to be the savior and deliver a team from mediocrity. And it's been proven time and time again that there is good (sometimes great) talent discovered in late rounds.

So, continue to listen to what the talking heads tell you when it comes to how you follow and support your team. But me and others will wait and watch things develop and come to conclusions at a later date. I've watched Crayton and have concluded that this man is a receiver because he can catch the ball with the best of them. He also runs precise routes. And Romo, the guy is a competitor and he is just as good as Jake Delhomme in my opinion. That pass he threw to Crowder down the sidelines was perfect.

There's still work to do and we have plenty of time :star:

[Kangaroo]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

See there we go again with the fake pedigree crap; when will people learn it is not where you are selected but want you do when you get here and that inculdes Undrafted FA like Preist holmes and Warner etc.

[RoysAHitta]

see, i cant help but laugh at everyone claiming parcells offense works. the guy won a superbowl with it, yes.. but bledsoe was in his mid 20's not mid 30's. players age and with age comes change, bledsoe has always been a slow reactor but now hes a VERY slow reactor and it will probably cost him a career ending injury here in dallas. we're not good enough to accomidate his sluggishness and statue-like ability, buffalo wasn't either.. and honestly i dont see many teams in the nfl who could.

we have wr's who cant get seperation, a qb who takes forever to throw and an o-line that can't block.. where exactly does that leave us? i mean we can can try and pound the ball on 8 man fronts all day long, but that aint going to be pretty.

our defense better be superbowl caliber if we want to go to the playoffs. cause ANY good d will shut our offense down very easily.

[RoysAHitta]

yea, theres always a chance of finding a diamond in the rough blah blah.. i dont care statistically im right. what was that stat last year? over 90% of the players in the probowl were selected in the first round or something, yea but draft status has nothing to do with it.. ok. get a clue.

[Doomsday101]

see, i cant help but laugh at everyone claiming parcells offense works. the guy won a superbowl with it, yes.. but bledsoe was in his mid 20's not mid 30's. players age and with age comes change, bledsoe has always been a slow reactor but now hes a VERY slow reactor and it will probably cost him a career ending injury here in dallas. we're not good enough to accomidate his sluggishness and statue-like ability, buffalo wasn't either.. and honestly i dont see many teams in the nfl who could.

we have wr's who cant get seperation, a qb who takes forever to throw and an o-line that can't block.. where exactly does that leave us? i mean we can can try and pound the ball on 8 man fronts all day long, but that aint going to be pretty.

our defense better be superbowl caliber if we want to go to the playoffs. cause ANY good d will shut our offense down very easily.

Your entitled to your opinion not all of us agree that the offense is going to be bad. I think Bledsoe will be able to run this offense and Dallas will add much more to the offense when we are actually game planning opponents.

[Kittymama]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.
Yawn.

Does it ever occur to people that you can't rebuild an entire team at once? It takes time. We've overhauled the defense for this year. Then we can start working on the offense next year.

[flashback]

Our offense is boring and predictable...

in the pre-season.

Do you honestly think we'll be seeing as many screens and draws on 3rd and long during the regular season? I don't. It'll be 15 yard Iins to Keyshawn and Gos to Glenn.

Trust me, it'll be a lot more exciting when the games count.

One of the things I liked most about Saturday's game was when they brought Witten in motion and he dropped into the backfield to lead block. Everyone and their little brother knew Jones was running to the left side. He still got 6 or 8 yards. That's what we used to do to teams back in the championship days. They knew exactly what we were doing, and they still couldn't stop it.

There's a lot of stuff we still need to work on, but its nice to know a few staples of our offense are already in place.

[jobberone]

What did you think Parcells offense was going to look like?

He always runs the same offense every year. You are seeing a watered down version in preseason again as always.

We have a run oriented and play action offense that employs a game and time consuming offense using field position. Same ole principles as the Bears in the 30s except for the evolution of the passing game.

The only difference in the early 90's Cowboys and todays Cowboys is we don't use a timing based passing attack. Otherwise it's the same ole game. Instead of lining up and craming Emmitt down their throats it's JJ.

[jman]

see, i cant help but laugh at everyone claiming parcells offense works. the guy won a superbowl with it, yes.. but bledsoe was in his mid 20's not mid 30's. players age and with age comes change, bledsoe has always been a slow reactor but now hes a VERY slow reactor and it will probably cost him a career ending injury here in dallas. we're not good enough to accomidate his sluggishness and statue-like ability, buffalo wasn't either.. and honestly i dont see many teams in the nfl who could.

we have wr's who cant get seperation, a qb who takes forever to throw and an o-line that can't block.. where exactly does that leave us? i mean we can can try and pound the ball on 8 man fronts all day long, but that aint going to be pretty.

our defense better be superbowl caliber if we want to go to the playoffs. cause ANY good d will shut our offense down very easily.

Oh boy...First, Parcells made it to the Super Bowm with Bledsoe...didn't win it. And he got there by a pass heavy offense. Not a dominate running game.

Second...The two Super Bowls Parcells did win were with QB's that weren't so mobile, and heck, one of them was the back-up that year. Parcells can adapt to what he has. And right now, he's working with what he has.

Third...and this may apply to you original post, but predictability has nothing to do with the sucess or failure of an offense. It's exicution of the plays that count. IF you can remember, the Cowboys of the 90's were very pridictable...just nobody could stop it.

And lastly...as you say..."we're not good enough to accomidate his sluggishness and statue-like ability" and "we have wr's who cant get seperation, a qb who takes forever to throw and an o-line that can't block.. where exactly does that leave us?" And then you complian about not having an exciting offense whine about the offense? What do you expect?...Who could the Cowboys have gotten that would have solved this in your mind?

[BigDFan5]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

My question is what team are you really a fan of?


Lets go over some of your previous posts

You don't like Parcells

You want Keyshwn Cut

you want Barber cut

You don;t like Newman

Dont't like Bledsoe

Don't like Patrick Crayton

didn't like the Henry Signing

don't like Romo

don;t like Henson

You Like

Antonio Bryant

Rashard Lee

Pete Hunter at FS

Trading 2 first rounders for Javon Walker

Wanted Merriman at #11 over Ware
(in another posts said Merriman was not worth top 20 pick and was overrated in another said Merriman was a 2nd rounder and JP Losman woulda went top 5 this year)

wanted to trade 2 firsts for Drew Brees

wanted to trade 2 firsts to Miami for #2 pick for Mike Williams

Wanted to trade for Darren Howard

wanted Plax Burress

wanted Sharper

[LaTunaNostra]

Pretty funny!!!

[BigDFan5]

Pretty funny!!!


lol thanks

[Hoov]

I like the grind it out, run the ball, run the clock down style of offense when mixed with good defense much better than the teams that are explosive and get into 35-31 shootouts.

Its a great feeling when the D is dominating the other team, your up by 10 and you just keep running the ball for 1st downs cause the other team is exhausted and getting their butts kicked in the trenches.

The best play i saw in the seattle game was when the cowboys went for it on 4th and 2 and made the 1st down running Jones behind the left side of the line. the past 2 years we couldnt convert 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2, 4th and 1. Its more important IMO for us to be able to covert 3rd and short by ramming the ball down the oponents throat, then to be a pass happy, thriller of an offense.

[DWAREZ]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

so are your posts :)

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sometimes when I notice a poster has a lot of threads or posts full of some odd ideas, over exuberance to sign players that normally don't fit our team or we already have plenty of in that position, seems to always stir the pot, does not put too much thought into the post due to the short term conclusions and full of angst.....well I tend to look at the posters age to see if that is a factor.

Many times it is just that factor....I think it has a great deal to do with this case.
:starspin

[Fletch]

see, i cant help but laugh at everyone claiming parcells offense works. the guy won a superbowl with it, yes.. but bledsoe was in his mid 20's not mid 30's. players age and with age comes change, bledsoe has always been a slow reactor but now hes a VERY slow reactor and it will probably cost him a career ending injury here in dallas. we're not good enough to accomidate his sluggishness and statue-like ability, buffalo wasn't either.. and honestly i dont see many teams in the nfl who could.

we have wr's who cant get seperation, a qb who takes forever to throw and an o-line that can't block.. where exactly does that leave us? i mean we can can try and pound the ball on 8 man fronts all day long, but that aint going to be pretty.

our defense better be superbowl caliber if we want to go to the playoffs. cause ANY good d will shut our offense down very easily.

Thank you Mr. Football coach. :rolleyes:

[Sportsbabe]

The only difference in the early 90's Cowboys and todays Cowboys is we don't use a timing based passing attack. Otherwise it's the same ole game. Instead of lining up and craming Emmitt down their throats it's JJ.

Excellent point jobberone ... that's what I like about the way BP coaches. He keeps it basic and simple. Man on Man. Others want people to reinvent the wheel. I like my wheels without the spinners. They look cute when they're moving, but when you strip it down to the bare necessities it should still be able to get you from point A to point B. I like everything old skool, including my football ....

...by the way, what kind of name is jobberone :)

[jobberone]

Excellent point jobberone ... that's what I like about the way BP coaches. He keeps it basic and simple. Man on Man. Others want people to reinvent the wheel. I like my wheels without the spinners. They look cute when they're moving, but when you strip it down to the bare necessities it should still be able to get you from point A to point B. I like everything old skool, including my football ....

...by the way, what kind of name is jobberone :)

It's the one AOL or someone gave me. So I took it. LOL. Pretty imaginative don't you think. :)

[jobberone]

Sometimes when I notice a poster has a lot of threads or posts full of some odd ideas, over exuberance to sign players that normally don't fit our team or we already have plenty of in that position, seems to always stir the pot, does not put too much thought into the post due to the short term conclusions and full of angst.....well I tend to look at the posters age to see if that is a factor.

Many times it is just that factor....I think it has a great deal to do with this case.
:starspin

Young twenties. Does that account for all of it??? That's too young for me to remember well so........... Maybe you're right.

[BigDFan5]

Sometimes when I notice a poster has a lot of threads or posts full of some odd ideas, over exuberance to sign players that normally don't fit our team or we already have plenty of in that position, seems to always stir the pot, does not put too much thought into the post due to the short term conclusions and full of angst.....well I tend to look at the posters age to see if that is a factor.

Many times it is just that factor....I think it has a great deal to do with this case.
:starspin


Thats a good idea I never check the age

[Canadian BoyzFan]

face it guys, our offense is bad. our team doesnt have the personel for plays more than 20 yards, i cant believe im saying that about a professional nfl team but its true. we're relying on a 7th round draft pick (crayton) and a small built injury prone vet (glenn) for our downfield threats, thats plain ugly. defenses will be able to blitz us all day without any kind of repercussions and with a shaky o-line thats receipe for disaster. who on our team besides glenn is seriously capable of going the distance? thats right nobody, crayton has good hands but his speed probably isnt great. well if bledsoe gets hurt cause our wr's cant get seperation we're in big trouble.. here comes another 5-11 season that we're all used to.

It's pre-season..what do you want Flee Flickers, reverses, half back passes????
Everyone needs to chill a bit.

[Billy Bullocks]

There are more posts the last few weeks that offer nothing informative but are just plain whining. The cowboys brought in more than their share of FA's this year, had a very good draft, what more do you expect them to do. If they still end up at 5-11 after that then thats just the way it is, your whining about the situation isnt going to change anything.

Sorry to sound harsh and im not just picking on you, but some of these "hey guys, our team is gonna suck again and here's why" threads are getting old.

agreed...


make this thread again when dallas is running boring predictable plays in the regular season. we're not gonna go out and advertise what we do...