Cortez could take this team down [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

MarionBarberThe4th

08-29-2005, 09:35 PM

Any one know if its possible to sign Cundiff later on when hes healthy?

I haerd something like we cant until week 6.

Smith22

08-29-2005, 09:35 PM

Any one know if its possible to sign Cundiff later on when hes healthy?

I haerd something like we cant until week 6.

Can't remember if I read week 6 or week 10.

BEASToftheEAST

08-29-2005, 09:37 PM

Ya, because Cundiff was the second coming of Jason Elam.

Yeagermeister

08-29-2005, 09:37 PM

Week 10

and I have not doubt Cortez is just keeping the spot warm

MarionBarberThe4th

08-29-2005, 09:39 PM

Wasnt he something like 37 for 40 under 40 yards? Probably not, but I remember it was good.

Now pull up Cortez stats and see who youd prefer.

MarionBarberThe4th

08-29-2005, 09:39 PM

Week 10

and I have not doubt Cortez is just keeping the spot warm

........for Billy or?....

Nors

08-29-2005, 09:40 PM

Cundiff was money inside 40.

I hope we resign him. Cortez Shanks will be epic as this season winds on.....

Yeagermeister

08-29-2005, 09:40 PM

........for Billy or?....
Week 10 before we can bring Cundiff back

MarionBarberThe4th

08-29-2005, 09:53 PM

I agree. I have a feeling Bill told him to rehab, take your time, and if your 100% well bring you back in. I can jsut see Billy agreeing, maybe feeling pressure to make Bill happy.

mullet

08-29-2005, 09:55 PM

cortez could indeed sink the ship.
but, cundiff could be back.
or, another kicker who will be released.

Champsheart

08-29-2005, 10:05 PM

Live leg but he suffers from SHANKS....

Same guy imploded at SF.

We will rue the day we cut Cundiff.

I agree! I already had that concern with Billy, but that concern doubles with Cortez.

I am just hoping a good kicker becomes available after the final cut downs, and we go get him, whoever that is.

DallasDomination

08-29-2005, 10:11 PM

Guys he just missed one kick witch was hurried by the way and all of you are already throwng in the towel?.

So if T Newman has another bad game are you guys gonna start saying he's back to his unconfident ways?.

Just let the kid play and if he doesnt perform then I'm sure BP will do something about it.Until then just relax, with the comments about the season being over.

MarionBarberThe4th

08-29-2005, 10:15 PM

Theres a reason he hasnt been on a team for... 2 years (?)

I do like the touch backs though.

calico

08-29-2005, 10:17 PM

Cortez scares me. I saw him play several times and he will not make kicks when it really matters. Cundiff at least hit his game winners.

Cundiff will be back if he is not snatched up and we will be trying some people out all year.

Fletch

08-29-2005, 10:19 PM

Live leg but he suffers from SHANKS....

Same guy imploded at SF.

We will rue the day we cut Cundiff.

Time to stop living in the past. Same could be said about all the kickers in this league. :rolleyes:

jobberone

08-29-2005, 10:29 PM

Time to stop living in the past. Same could be said about all the kickers in this league. :rolleyes:

Agreed. We have to give the guy a chance. But mostly because we don't have a choice. Short leash.

Nors

08-29-2005, 10:34 PM

Time to stop living in the past. Same could be said about all the kickers in this league. :rolleyes:
I'm a history buff.

I live in the past - its a great predictor of the future. To fail to learn from the past dooms you to repeat the same mistakes.

Fletch

08-29-2005, 10:37 PM

I'm a history buff.

I live in the past - its a great predictor of the future. To fail to learn from the past dooms you to repeat the same mistakes.

History buff or not. Ever heard of a change of scenery when it comes to football? Happens to a lot if ya ask me.

Not saying you are wrong. But Cortez has done nothing wrong up to this point. He definitely seems to have a stronger leg, and seems more accurate. Time will tell though.

TobiasEagle77

08-29-2005, 10:51 PM

Kickers sometimes take awhile to develope. The thing that makes or breaks a kicker is consistency, and it takes awhile to develope the habits that make you consistent.

Cortez stunk it up pretty bad in SF, which is why he was cut. David Akers was once cut too, by the Redskins.

Do you have a good ST/kicking coach? Do you trust his ability to coach up Cortez?

DanTanna

08-29-2005, 10:54 PM

Cortez consistently kicks into the endzone. Thay may very well save us 7 points per game.

I'll give him two shanked field goal attempts per game, we're still ahead 1 point.

CactusCowboy

08-29-2005, 10:56 PM

I believe they will bring on the loser of the matt Bryant and the other kid's battle.....

DLK150

08-29-2005, 11:01 PM

I believe they will bring on the loser of the matt Bryant and the other kid's battle.....

Todd France? That's a possibility.

Nors

08-29-2005, 11:07 PM

Actually most kickers establish accuracy early in career.

Cortezz is John Daly - Long and wild. Man shanks really grate on you. Its bad enough "just missing" But those Shanks are gut killers.

Adam JT did this in offseason - Cundiff and net return yardage was very high up in NFL... ITS A MYTH THAT CUNDIFF'S KO'S HURT THE TEAM.

TobiasEagle77

08-30-2005, 12:01 AM

I like your avatar though

PaEagleHater

08-30-2005, 01:18 AM

sign Elling after the Vikes cut him, forget about Cundiff, send Cortez on his way.

dallasblue05

08-30-2005, 01:25 AM

I think it is hilarious how 2 guys can watch the same kicker, in the same game, ON THE SAME KICK, lol, and one think he's horrible, and one think s he has a stronger leg and is more accurate. Granted you can go on what have you done before, or what have you done for me lately, but really all that matters is what can you do now. I think guy has a shot to prove himself, he seems to have to tools to do so (and I dont mean a leg, lol), so I say let him do his thang until it hurts our team, then boot his arse out!!

Sarge

08-30-2005, 05:19 AM

Live leg but he suffers from SHANKS....

Same guy imploded at SF.

We will rue the day we cut Cundiff.

I agree. This guy is NOT the answer. In another post I said it would surprise me none if he cost us 2 games this year. This may be the biggest 'need' position on the team right now and should NOT be overlooked or taken for granted. Not with this guy.

Doomsday101

08-30-2005, 08:18 AM

I agree. This guy is NOT the answer. In another post I said it would surprise me none if he cost us 2 games this year. This may be the biggest 'need' position on the team right now and should NOT be overlooked or taken for granted. Not with this guy.

I don't know if Cortez is the answer or not but there are not a lot of kickers out there to choose from. Had Cundiff not been injured I think the job would have been his but an injured kicker is useless to a team. At this stage if Cortez continues making the kicks I think he remains on the team if he falters Dallas can always call on Cundiff once he is over his injury or look for another kicker but I doubt anyone who could be picked up I doubt will have a great resume of his own.

jterrell

08-30-2005, 08:29 AM

I doubt we end up with Cortez long term.

I am sure after final cuts we start seeing kickers brought in to compete.
But yea we should be concerned about him because his accuracy is atrocious.

Doomsday101

08-30-2005, 08:32 AM

I doubt we end up with Cortez long term.

I am sure after final cuts we start seeing kickers brought in to compete.
But yea we should be concerned about him because his accuracy is atrocious.

In the past it has been but thus far he has done a good job. Sorry I think kickers can improve their game. Cortez is getting his chance and if he does good this thrusday then I think he makes the team.

Dallas4ever

08-30-2005, 08:32 AM

Guys he just missed one kick witch was hurried by the way and all of you are already throwng in the towel?.

One is enough for me considering his track record.

See you later........... Bye.:D

Dayton Cowboy

08-30-2005, 08:39 AM

As mentioned before.. I'm keeping an eye on the Bucs and the Vikes kicking battle.... Seems that both of them are fairly close, and will more than likely go down to that final cut..

junk

08-30-2005, 09:26 AM

We will rue the day? People are so dramatic.

Cundiff was hurt and couldn't kick. Who do you cut to keep him on the roster?

Is a mediocre kicker worth that?

I doubt Cortez sticks so I am not too worried about it. I am betting the loser of the TB kicking battle ends up in Dallas. They already tried to trade for one kicker as well.

But, heck, lets cut the starting OLB and eventual depth and keep a kicker!

MrMom

08-30-2005, 09:31 AM

Cortez for Pres!

Nors

08-30-2005, 09:34 AM

Ali Haji Shank still available?

TheHustler

08-30-2005, 10:42 AM

Live leg but he suffers from SHANKS....

Same guy imploded at SF.

We will rue the day we cut Cundiff.

Yep. This guy is awful. I am shocked anytime he makes ANY field goal.

Chocolate Lab

08-30-2005, 11:24 AM

I liked Cundiff, too, and thought he got a lot of unwarranted grief. But Nors, you do realize that he was injured, right?...

I agree with you though -- Cortez is a ticking time bomb. If we keep him all year, he will cost us games. The good news is that we realize he's not that good (see the attempted Marler trade), and if someone better comes available, I suspect we'll snap them up.