Peerless Price: The good, the bad, the ugly...

[Rack Bauer]

Mods, I know this will get merged with the "Ultimate PP" thread (heh, I said PP), but if you don't mind leaving it up for about 5 minutes before you merge it, I'd very much appreciate it.



Ok I've been getting a lot of heat around here for my views on Price (apparantly it's only ok to voice your opinion if you say something nice about a potential cowboy :rolleyes:).


Part of the reason for all the negativity is to offset the immense amount of PP man-love going on here. Seriously, some of you guys need to go do something manly like chop down a tree or something to make up for it.



Ok let's get started:


The Good:

He's had success with Drew Bledsoe in Buffalo and if we're interested then Bledsoe must of really liked him.

His numbers in Atlanta weren't great, but a big reason for that is Michael Vick. Vick is NOT a good passer. Period. No WR is gonna have big numbers with Vick at QB until/unless Vick improves the passing portion of his game. He also went through an offensive philosiphy (sp?) change last year and that effected him and Vick (which inturn effected Price even more).

That said, a huge reason he didn't put up big numbers in Atlanta is cuz he's not a #1 WR. He never will be. Don't ever expect this guy to come in and replace Key and TG when they retire cuz he won't be able to do it. Ever. Period. Get that through your skulls, mkay?


The Bad:

This guy has trouble with physical CBs. That's not really an issue in our division except when facing the Redskins (SPrings) so it shouldn't be that big of an issue. Plus, opposing teams will likely line up their Physical CBs on Keyshawn anyway.

ALso, there's been word out that he's had vision problems, possibly due to a concussion he apparantly had not long ago. He's have to pass a physical, Obviously.


The Ugly:

This guy has been rumored to be a cancer. He has told Jim Mora Jr that "I get paid to catch passes, not block for RBs". It's also been said he's not willing to play special teams. But being the #1 WR in Atlanta (or trying to be) I'd assume he wasn't asked to play special teams anyway. He did return punts in Buffalo, although he was increcibly horrible at it (6.1 career punt return average). Obviously this has to be looked into extensively with Parcells before any signings take place. I'd assume BP will have a "Sit down" with PP (heh) before they sign him. If BP feels Price will work hard, block, and not complain, then I'm all for it. Bring him in.


Bottom line:

If he becomes a Cowboy I'll root for him and hope he contributes to the team. I just don't want them to bring in any "turds" after all the work they've done to "flush the toilet".


Did I just refer to the Cowboys as a toilet? I have to work on my analogies.

[TheHustler]

Preach on!

He's too old to develop (29 in Oct). He's not a #1. He's only had 1 good year. He'd hold back the development of Crayton.

When leaving ATL he told reporters "I hate ya'll"

Sounds like a character guy to me =P

[Rack Bauer]

I wouldn't say I was "Preaching". I'd say my post was pretty even keel (sp?).


Just pointing out the positives and negatives about Price. I sure as hell didn't mean for it to seem like I was bashing him. I actually found myself a little worried that he visited the Pats (aka collectors of WRs) and thought to myself, "Wait a minute... I thought I didn't like him?".

[silverbear]

Mods, I know this will get merged with the "Ultimate PP" thread (heh, I said PP), but if you don't mind leaving it up for about 5 minutes before you merge it, I'd very much appreciate it.



Ok I've been getting a lot of heat around here for my views on Price (apparantly it's only ok to voice your opinion if you say something nice about a potential cowboy :rolleyes:).


Part of the reason for all the negativity is to offset the immense amount of PP man-love going on here. Seriously, some of you guys need to go do something manly like chop down a tree or something to make up for it.



Ok let's get started:


The Good:

He's had success with Drew Bledsoe in Buffalo and if we're interested then Bledsoe must of really liked him.

His numbers in Atlanta weren't great, but a big reason for that is Michael Vick. Vick is NOT a good passer. Period. No WR is gonna have big numbers with Vick at QB until/unless Vick improves the passing portion of his game. He also went through an offensive philosiphy (sp?) change last year and that effected him and Vick (which inturn effected Price even more).

That said, a huge reason he didn't put up big numbers in Atlanta is cuz he's not a #1 WR. He never will be. Don't ever expect this guy to come in and replace Key and TG when they retire cuz he won't be able to do it. Ever. Period. Get that through your skulls, mkay?


The Bad:

This guy has trouble with physical CBs. That's not really an issue in our division except when facing the Redskins (SPrings) so it shouldn't be that big of an issue. Plus, opposing teams will likely line up their Physical CBs on Keyshawn anyway.

ALso, there's been word out that he's had vision problems, possibly due to a concussion he apparantly had not long ago. He's have to pass a physical, Obviously.


The Ugly:

This guy has been rumored to be a cancer. He has told Jim Mora Jr that "I get paid to catch passes, not block for RBs". It's also been said he's not willing to play special teams. But being the #1 WR in Atlanta (or trying to be) I'd assume he wasn't asked to play special teams anyway. He did return punts in Buffalo, although he was increcibly horrible at it (6.1 career punt return average). Obviously this has to be looked into extensively with Parcells before any signings take place. I'd assume BP will have a "Sit down" with PP (heh) before they sign him. If BP feels Price will work hard, block, and not complain, then I'm all for it. Bring him in.


Bottom line:

If he becomes a Cowboy I'll root for him and hope he contributes to the team. I just don't want them to bring in any "turds" after all the work they've done to "flush the toilet".


Did I just refer to the Cowboys as a toilet? I have to work on my analogies.


LOL... good stuff, Rack (I ALMOST said "pal", then caught myself)... and a pretty fair analysis... and for the record, I surely don't expect him to come in here and be the #1 receiver... just be the #3, knowing there's always the possibility of moving up to #2 if (when) either Key or Glenn get hurt)...

My only 2 concerns about this move are what he might cost (and I'm confident the Boys will pass if the "price" is too high), and what it might do to Patrick Crayton's development... but like I said, I figure either Johnson or Glenn is a good bet to get hurt at some point, and at that point Patrick would move up to the third WR slot... or heck, he might even beat out Price straight up for the #3 slot...

[Dallas]

. but like I said, I figure either Johnson or Glenn is a good bet to get hurt at some point, and at that point Patrick would move up to the third WR slot... or heck, he might even beat out Price straight up for the #3 slot...

That is all everyone is saying. Someone is bound to get hurt and to sign Price for insurance and possible solid 3 and maybe move to #2 if he can progress. Rack has this mindset that everyone who is on the Price wagon is saying hes coming in at #1. Nobody and I mean nobody has ever stated that.

Why all the Rack hate? you got me. I can name a ton of things wrong w/ every player in the NFL. I just dont take the time. Bottom line Price makes our WR depth better. PERIOD.

Sign him already. Have some faith in Bill that he wouldnt let anyone play if they are going to be detrimental to anyone (team-front office-staff), anyone.

[LaTunaNostra]

Mods, I know this will get merged with the "Ultimate PP" thread (heh, I said PP), but if you don't mind leaving it up for about 5 minutes before you merge it, I'd very much appreciate it.



Ok I've been getting a lot of heat around here for my views on Price (apparantly it's only ok to voice your opinion if you say something nice about a potential cowboy :rolleyes:).


Part of the reason for all the negativity is to offset the immense amount of PP man-love going on here. Seriously, some of you guys need to go do something manly like chop down a tree or something to make up for it.



Ok let's get started:


The Good:

He's had success with Drew Bledsoe in Buffalo and if we're interested then Bledsoe must of really liked him.

His numbers in Atlanta weren't great, but a big reason for that is Michael Vick. Vick is NOT a good passer. Period. No WR is gonna have big numbers with Vick at QB until/unless Vick improves the passing portion of his game. He also went through an offensive philosiphy (sp?) change last year and that effected him and Vick (which inturn effected Price even more).

That said, a huge reason he didn't put up big numbers in Atlanta is cuz he's not a #1 WR. He never will be. Don't ever expect this guy to come in and replace Key and TG when they retire cuz he won't be able to do it. Ever. Period. Get that through your skulls, mkay?


The Bad:

This guy has trouble with physical CBs. That's not really an issue in our division except when facing the Redskins (SPrings) so it shouldn't be that big of an issue. Plus, opposing teams will likely line up their Physical CBs on Keyshawn anyway.

ALso, there's been word out that he's had vision problems, possibly due to a concussion he apparantly had not long ago. He's have to pass a physical, Obviously.


The Ugly:

This guy has been rumored to be a cancer. He has told Jim Mora Jr that "I get paid to catch passes, not block for RBs". It's also been said he's not willing to play special teams. But being the #1 WR in Atlanta (or trying to be) I'd assume he wasn't asked to play special teams anyway. He did return punts in Buffalo, although he was increcibly horrible at it (6.1 career punt return average). Obviously this has to be looked into extensively with Parcells before any signings take place. I'd assume BP will have a "Sit down" with PP (heh) before they sign him. If BP feels Price will work hard, block, and not complain, then I'm all for it. Bring him in.


Bottom line:

If he becomes a Cowboy I'll root for him and hope he contributes to the team. I just don't want them to bring in any "turds" after all the work they've done to "flush the toilet".


Did I just refer to the Cowboys as a toilet? I have to work on my analogies.

Rack, that was more than fair, imo. But you're right the man-love has been flat out stunning. Befitting of a Tory Holt quality player. Methinks the fantasy footballers drafted him late or something. :rolleyes:

Price represents: a clear upgrade over Morgan simply because he has better hands, a comfort/familiarity zone for Bledsoe, a chance to diversify offensive formations for Payton (something Morgan should have brought to the table were his hands better), and insurance against injury to ANY other receiver.

There are always two sides to any story, and in Atlanta, the situation was just not tailored to Price's skills. He needs to be evaluated in the medium light of both Buffalo and Atlanta; he is not the receiver he was in either place, neither star nor bust, but a fast complementary #2 along the Galloway lines.

His signing here, if he will play for #3 money, and be willing to compete his way up the depth chart make sense. He doesn't fancy blocking, but he will have less of it to do than in the wco, and Bill will see to it that he does block when he's out there. He wasn't able to gain separation, apparently on some wco routes, but he won't be used the same here.

I like more balanced receivers myself, and if sideline route speed is all they really bring, then let it be fierce speed. As long as he isn't hindering Crayton's development (which I trust Bill will not let happen), he sure can't hurt.

If you look it at it as Morgan for Price, it's a no brainer. And that's too bad, because Morgan has more raw talent.

Providing Price himself realizes that that the over 12 million he earned in Atlanta on two years represents his big career contract/payday, why not?

[Roughneck]

The Good:

He's had success with Drew Bledsoe in Buffalo and if we're interested then Bledsoe must of really liked him.

His numbers in Atlanta weren't great, but a big reason for that is Michael Vick. Vick is NOT a good passer. Period. No WR is gonna have big numbers with Vick at QB until/unless Vick improves the passing portion of his game. He also went through an offensive philosiphy (sp?) change last year and that effected him and Vick (which inturn effected Price even more).

That said, a huge reason he didn't put up big numbers in Atlanta is cuz he's not a #1 WR. He never will be. Don't ever expect this guy to come in and replace Key and TG when they retire cuz he won't be able to do it. Ever. Period. Get that through your skulls, mkay?......and that was under "The Good?"

Why don't you telll us how you really feel?

:laugh2:

[Rack Bauer]

Guess you didn't understand my point, Roughneck. My point is it's "Good" cuz he was used in the wrong role in Atlanta. As a #2, 3, or 4 he'll be fine.

[Everlastingxxx]

Logic says we need more depth at WR. Do you have any other ideas on how we do that?

[InmanRoshi]

Rack, that was more than fair, imo. But you're right the man-love has been flat out stunning. Befitting of a Tory Holt quality player. Methinks the fantasy footballers drafted him late or something.

Please, do not preach to us rational objectivity on this subject. I'll take the sermon from anyone but you in this instance.

[Canadian BoyzFan]

The Ugly:

This guy has been rumored to be a cancer. He has told Jim Mora Jr that "I get paid to catch passes, not block for RBs".

I would love to be a fly on the wall if any of our WR's said this to Big Bill.

[AbeBeta]

How much of the "ugly" -- e.g. rumored to not want to block, is a cancer, etc. Is the Falcons' organization spinning an awful decision? Price was a great #2 for Buffalo but ATL gave up a #1 pick AND a huge contract.

Isn't the rule don't give up a pick and a huge signing bonus. To the Falcons' credit -- at least they didn't give up 2 first rounders for him.

[LaTunaNostra]

Please, do not preach to us rational objectivity on the subject. Anyone but you.
If the shoe fits, we must both wear it, Roshi.

No one, but no one, is always the epitome of rationality on every topic.

That's why we are 'fans'.

The need NOT to tow the total logic line, and let our desires sometimes color our decisions/perspectives is prolly the greatest attraction of football.

I think we both usually sound reasonably rational.

And if we stray the course, now and then?

We are entitled.

We are 'fans', not 'professionals' at this. :)

[RatisBeast]

Good Post, Rack. I'm for bringing in Price at the right price. lol I think your analysis was fair. I'm just not a fan of saying he won't be able to replace TG or Key period. But that's more cause the credibility of a writer is lost in my eyes. While, I don't think he will replace them, I'm not going to say he won't ever do it. Who knows what will happen in the future....i'm just about as clueless as you on Price's future. Also, apparant is apparent. ( I think lol) Nothing personal, I just have a habit of correcting words that aren't spelled correctly.

[InmanRoshi]

I just curious ... with Price being such a cancer who doesn't like to do dirty work, why are the three teams bringing him in for visits the 1st, 2nd and 3rd branches of the Parcells coaching tree?

[AbeBeta]

I just curious ... with Price being such a cancer who doesn't like to do dirty work, why are the three teams bringing him in for visits the 1st, 2nd and 3rd branches of the Parcells coaching tree?

Good call there. Anyone feel like the Falcons' are interested in protecting Vick's image at any cost? Vick isn't effective -- must be the WR's fault.

[wileedog]

I just curious ... with Price being such a cancer who doesn't like to do dirty work, why are the three teams bringing him in for visits the 1st, 2nd and 3rd branches of the Parcells coaching tree?

I wonder if the "not blocking" quote was more of an indictment of the Falcons bringing in the WCO, then what was expected of him on the field.

This is what his agent said:

“He brought in the West Coast offense and it required Peerless, a vertical receiver, to block instead of being Michael Vick’s go-to receiver,” McGee said.

It very conceivable that Price's comment was geared more towards a scheme that took away his strengths and played to his weaknesses, then a prima-donna attitiude about helping the run game.

[LaTunaNostra]

Bill, Mumbles and Saban are three coaches whose offensive philosophies CAN succeed with a handful of non-elite receivers. I think Chris Chambers could be considered borderline elite, but the fact remains this trio believes it can win sans 'celebrity' receivers.

Price doesn't have to win games for them... just play hs role..and these are also the type of coaches who CAN get reluctant blockers to reform.

[InmanRoshi]

Bill, Mumbles and Saban are three coaches whose offensive philosophies CAN succeed with a handful of non-elite receivers. I think Chris Chambers could be considered borderline elite, but the fact remains this trio believes it can win sans 'celebrity' receivers.

Price doesn't have to win games for them... just play hs role..and these are also the type of coaches who CAN get reluctant blockers to reform.

Okay, non-elite vs. elite WR's really isn't the issue ... we're talking about blocking and doing dirty work. Don't all three require their WR's to block and do dirty work? And they expect team players. And all three are bringing in Price for a visit?

[InmanRoshi]

I wonder if the "not blocking" quote was more of an indictment of the Falcons bringing in the WCO, then what was expected of him on the field.

This is what his agent said:



It very conceivable that Price's comment was geared more towards a scheme that took away his strengths and played to his weaknesses, then a prima-donna attitiude about helping the run game.

Exactly. I don't think Price minds blocking on running plays. I think he minds having to block on passing plays when his QB pulls the ball down and starts running before Price can even get into his route.

[LaTunaNostra]

Okay, non-elite vs. elite WR's really isn't the issue ... we're talking about blocking and doing dirty work. Don't all three require their WR's to block and do dirty work? And they expect team players. And all three are bringing in Price for a visit?
It wasn't me who 'invented' the Price hates to block rap.

And it is prevalent enough to have to have some truth to it.

These three are on a fishing trip just now, but the one who signs pp will have had to be convinced during the interview he is a team player, and will at the very least give his best blocking effort.

He may never be a good blocker, but if he is willing to apply himself and improve, even Tuna won't write him off.

[Rack Bauer]

Funny, Roshi, you only comment on the negative part about Price.


I guess there's nothing wrong with the positives? So the positives are right, but the negatives are not true.

Sign him now! There's nothing but positives with this player! Yeehaw!

[InmanRoshi]

These three are on a fishing trip just now, but the one who signs pp will have had to be convinced during the interview he is a team player, and will at the very least give his best blocking effort.

I just find it strange that the three fisherman using the biggest bait are all Parcells and/or descendants of Parcells. Parcells and Belichick's familiarity with the AFC East, I don't think either one of them are fumbling around in the dark scratching their heads and wondering what he's all about.

[InmanRoshi]

Sign him now!

Great point.

Totally agree.

[Rack Bauer]

I just find it strange that the three fisherman using the biggest bait are all Parcells and/or descendants of Parcells. Parcells and Belichick's familiarity with the AFC East, I don't think either one of them are fumbling around in the dark scratching their heads and wondering what he's all about.


Just cuz Belichick is a descendant of Parcells doesn't make him a clone of parcells. Who says Belichick puts as much stress into his WRs blocking?


And really, why would he when the Pats are a passing team anyway?

[Rack Bauer]

Anyone remember the point I made about all the PP man-love going on?


It's still going on with "some" people.

[InmanRoshi]

I agreed with most of your positives. I had nothing to add there.

Your final conclusion is that Price would make a great #2 or #3 WR. I have nothing to add there.

As soon as I see one single poster suggest that Price should be brought in for franchise money as a #1 WR, your accusations of man love accusations would be worthwhile. But as of 3 days, I've yet to see a single poster suggest that. Everyone is saying he should be brought in for a situational spot and insurance. So it seems your entire post like not only are you preaching to the manlove choir, but you've joined the chorus.

[PullMyFinger]

hehe
The need NOT to tow the total logic line

Say that fast five times....... :p:

[RatisBeast]

The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line

[AbeBeta]

Just cuz Belichick is a descendant of Parcells doesn't make him a clone of parcells. Who says Belichick puts as much stress into his WRs blocking?


Beli emphasizes a team game. I can't see that being accomplished with WRs who aren't willing to block. But blocking to spring an RB and blocking to spring the QB who refuses to throw the ball are two different things. You block for the RB to promote an effective run game -- safeties then have to get in the box and the WRs have more room to work. When you block for a QB you encourage him to ... run some more.

My bet is that Price's comments on blocking were not about blocking for Dunn or the other RBs - they were directed at Vick. Nobody like to play with a ball hog.

[LaTunaNostra]

I just find it strange that the three fisherman using the biggest bait are all Parcells and/or descendants of Parcells. Parcells and Belichick's familiarity with the AFC East, I don't think either one of them are fumbling around in the dark scratching their heads and wondering what he's all about.
I don't either, they are mega intelligent coaches who have a pretty good sense of all the starters in the league, access to game film, and scouting depts who can provide them with detailed analyses.

But because there is no such animal as a perfect player, every coach has to weigh the strengths and the weaknesses. I would say perhaps especially at receiver, a position that at first glance looks so straightfoward, but where the tangibles are so diverse, and the intangibles so dependent upon finding a player WITH attitude, but just the right balance of confidence and ego.

I don't think any of these coaches will eliminate from consideration any player who isn't the complete package....and these three do pride themselves on getting the most out of their players..the better the teacher, the more likely the student can be more polished or complete.

Roshi, one more note on the logic thing...we have both got more than our share of commendations on that area from our fellow posters. And I think we both could agree we are passionate about football. I also really hope our disagreement on this player is not gonna cause any lasting ill will. I appreciate your sentiment that you would take a sermon on this from anyone BUT me, as I admittedly go into emotional overdrive anytime a discussion begins with Terry WILL go down again ;) and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I wanna be able to express the full range of my personality on a forum, not just the 'logic'.

My one asset as a poster tho, is not logic, passion, wit, writing or any of that other crap. It is the refusal to bear grudges against any posters EVER with whom I have disagreed about ANYTHING.

Tomorrow's a new day and whether this guy ends up a Cowboy or not, the debate has been a good one on both the logic and passion ends, and I do hope you feel the same. :)

[BARRYRAY]

Sports Illustrated Fantasy Mag has Price at #55 out of the top 88--gues who's only one notch up---Terry Glenn at #54, got to be better than Morgan, sign him cheap...

[LaTunaNostra]

Sports Illustrated Fantasy Mag has Price at #55 out of the top 88--gues who's only one notch up---Terry Glenn at #54, got to be better than Morgan, sign him cheap...
Terry Glenn, I have read often, is 'fantasy football poison".

I should think Price would rate UP from TG.

[Rack Bauer]

Morgan sucks and I want him gone, but at least he blocks (he should probably gain weight and play TE lol).


So by signing price and releasing Morgan we gain some hands and lose some blocking. I'm all for that, since it's a WRs primary job to CATCH the ball anyway, but I'd be hopeful that BP can at least get PP to TRY and block. He doesn't have to be Hines Ward out there, but at least put forth the effort.

[jem88]

Rack, that was more than fair, imo. But you're right the man-love has been flat out stunning. Befitting of a Tory Holt quality player.
Man, Torry Holt. Now there is a player I'd love to have on this team.

[DLCassidy]

Morgan sucks and I want him gone, but at least he blocks (he should probably gain weight and play TE lol).


So by signing price and releasing Morgan we gain some hands and lose some blocking. I'm all for that, since it's a WRs primary job to CATCH the ball anyway, but I'd be hopeful that BP can at least get PP to TRY and block. He doesn't have to be Hines Ward out there, but at least put forth the effort.

If this was all you'd been saying for the past three days I doubt you would have had any argument from about 90% of the board. Price is what he is. And what he is can help this team win games and solidify the thinnest position on the team. People are excited about him not because he's Randy Moss but because he's a pretty good player at a position of need and his last name isn't Morgan. Assuming he doesn't want big money it's a no-brainer.

[ghst187]

[QUOTE=Rack]Bottom line:

If he becomes a Cowboy I'll root for him and hope he contributes to the team. I just don't want them to bring in any "turds" after all the work they've done to "flush the toilet".
QUOTE]

right on!

[felix360]

The Ugly:

This guy has been rumored to be a cancer. He has told Jim Mora Jr that "I get paid to catch passes, not block for RBs". It's also been said he's not willing to play special teams. But being the #1 WR in Atlanta (or trying to be) I'd assume he wasn't asked to play special teams anyway. He did return punts in Buffalo, although he was increcibly horrible at it (6.1 career punt return average). Obviously this has to be looked into extensively with Parcells before any signings take place. I'd assume BP will have a "Sit down" with PP (heh) before they sign him. If BP feels Price will work hard, block, and not complain, then I'm all for it. Bring him in.




if he's not willing to block for julius then i see this as a problem, we dont need a cancer on out team,

[TruBlueCowboy]

His numbers in Atlanta weren't great, but a big reason for that is Michael Vick. Vick is NOT a good passer. Period. No WR is gonna have big numbers with Vick at QB until/unless Vick improves the passing portion of his game. He also went through an offensive philosiphy (sp?) change last year and that effected him and Vick (which inturn effected Price even more).

Everyone said the same thing about Joey Galloway under Quincy Carter. Some here even predicted he would have a better season than Keyshawn with "real" quarterbacks. Yup, he really tore it up in Tampa Bay. :rolleyes:

[wileedog]

Everyone said the same thing about Joey Galloway under Quincy Carter. Some here even predicted he would have a better season than Keyshawn with "real" quarterbacks. Yup, he really tore it up in Tampa Bay. :rolleyes:

Uh, in half a season he racked up 416 yards and 5 TDs.

If Peerless gets 800+ yards and 9-10 TDs I'll be ecstatic.

[TruBlueCowboy]

Uh, in half a season he racked up 416 yards and 5 TDs.

If Peerless gets 800+ yards and 9-10 TDs I'll be ecstatic.

Staying healthy, and being able to play through the pain, is part of playing the game too. Some guys just can't run a few yards without pulling something.

[wileedog]

Staying healthy, and being able to play through the pain, is part of playing the game too. Some guys just can't run a few yards without pulling something.

What does Galloways injury problems have to do with Peerless Price, who BTW is 5 years younger and has never missed an NFL game?

[TruBlueCowboy]

What does Galloways injury problems have to do with Peerless Price, who BTW is 5 years younger and has never missed an NFL game?

I didn't say it had anything to do with Price. You said Galloway would have had good numbers if not for his injury. My point is Galloway can't stay healthy.

[wileedog]

I didn't say it had anything to do with Price. You said Galloway would have had good numbers if not for his injury. My point is Galloway can't stay healthy.


The point you originally made is that some said Galloway would play better with a better QB.

Guess what, he did. That's the point.

Granted, it was for only half a season because Galloway makes Jacob Rogers look tough, but when he was in there he was a better receiver than he was playing with Quincy. And Tampa doesn't throw downfield nearly as much either.

Thre's no way to use Galloway as an example that somehow Peerless wont produce more with a QB whose actually interested in a passing game.

[TruBlueCowboy]

The point you originally made is that some said Galloway would play better with a better QB.

Guess what, he did. That's the point.

Granted, it was for only half a season because Galloway makes Jacob Rogers look tough, but when he was in there he was a better receiver than he was playing with Quincy. And Tampa doesn't throw downfield nearly as much either.

Thre's no way to use Galloway as an example that somehow Peerless wont produce more with a QB whose actually interested in a passing game.

I'll solve this argment real quick. In 10 games, he had 33 receptions for 416 yards. You call those better numbers? In 2002, he had 61 receptions for 908 yards. Same results with or without Quincy Carter. Some receivers just weren't meant to be the #1 guy. Peerless Price wasn't meant to be, and if he realizes that, fine, he can sign. Just don't take away time from the young guys like Crayton who may have the potential to be significant starters in Dallas one day. Basically, I look at Peerless as an inferior Terry Glenn. Glenn has better hands, Keyshawn is more physical, Crayton is the young talent, why mess with a good thing? :)

[wileedog]

I'll solve this argment real quick. In 10 games, he had 33 receptions for 416 yards. You call those better numbers? In 2002, he had 61 receptions for 908 yards. Same results with or without Quincy Carter.
Convenient you left out Galloways 2003 numbers - 34 catches for 674 yards and only 2 TDs.


Some receivers just weren't meant to be the #1 guy. Peerless Price wasn't meant to be, and if he realizes that, fine, he can sign. Just don't take away time from the young guys like Crayton who may have the potential to be significant starters in Dallas one day.

I don't want PP to be #1, nor get paid like a #1. I agree with you 100% he's not a #1, and thought so when Atlanta traded for him.

But he's good depth and good insurance if Terry goes down. We were utterly screwed last year when Glenn got hurt, and I think Price will alleviate the problem should Terry get knicked again. And I do think he has some upside playing with Bledsoe over Vick.

If Price wants any more than that in money or playing time I'll be right there with ya kicking his arse out of Jerry's Press Box.

[Rack Bauer]

Convenient you left out Galloways 2003 numbers - 34 catches for 674 yards and only 2 TDs.


Galloway wasn't the #1 WR that year, Glenn was.