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Sign Price
Keep Crayton in top 3 mix.
Morgan steps up at #4.
And we cut Key? Aging, no speed and not a fit with Drew (Bledsoe)....
CanadianCowboysFan
09-02-2005, 10:46 PM
What colour is the sky in your world?
BadKarma
09-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Nah...we keep him this year and allow Crayton to season, then we get rid of his arse next year! :laugh2:
Smith22
09-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Throw enough crap against the wall and sooner or later something will stick I suppose.....
Fletch
09-02-2005, 10:54 PM
Sign Price
Keep Crayton in top 3 mix.
Morgan steps up at #4.
And we cut Key? Aging, no speed and not a fit with Drew (Bledsoe)....
Nah, Keyshawn was a very good WR for us last year. What Key does during the game that won't show up in stats is priceless. He does a lot of dirty work that most WR's won't do. Key will be a Cowboy for this year and next.
I would not want to lose Keyshawn Johnson. Wouldn't make sense anyway.
BigDFan5
09-02-2005, 10:56 PM
oh my god it never ends
PaEagleHater
09-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Did you hit your head before you signed on?
LeonDixson
09-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Nah, Keyshawn was a very good WR for us last year. What Key does during the game that won't show up in stats is priceless. He does a lot of dirty work that most WR's won't do. Key will be a Cowboy for this year and next.
I would not want to lose Keyshawn Johnson. Wouldn't make sense anyway.
Agreed, Fletch. Key is an awsome blocker downfield. He picks up a penalty for being overzealous once in a while but you can count on him to be in the game emotionally.
big dog cowboy
09-02-2005, 11:01 PM
oh my god it never ends
Ya think?
LaTunaNostra
09-02-2005, 11:02 PM
Nah, Keyshawn was a very good WR for us last year. What Key does during the game that won't show up in stats is priceless. He does a lot of dirty work that most WR's won't do. Key will be a Cowboy for this year and next.
I would not want to lose Keyshawn Johnson. Wouldn't make sense anyway.
Not a fit for Bledsoe could be true. :D But not because Key is lacking .
A receiver running routes underneath in traffic depends a lot on accuracy..even if he is as big and tough as Key and can muscle his man, the ball does have to be closer in the vicinity than Glenn and Price chasing down flyballs.
I trust Key's excellent possession skills will make Bledsoe look better underneath.
Getting rid of him would be senseless because Bill is NOT letting happen here what happened in Buffalo, when the zones got flooded, and the long ball take away.
This is a cut throat business - Dude is aging, off broken peg. Bust my *** all you want- Parcells is asking this same question.
Price
Glenn
Crayton
Key
Glenn
Crayton
Boy's fan in Giant land
09-02-2005, 11:04 PM
C'mon Nors. Your last few posts have actually been pretty decent, and then you come up with something like this. What have you been smokin'???
Crown Royal
09-02-2005, 11:07 PM
Soooo we cut our best blocking WR for a WR who was cut for refusing to block. Hmm.
Quickly - I am a guy who has been pulling for Crayton since his ROOKIE TC, but I have no problem with signing Price. Now, I don't want him for too much $$$, but for the right price, I would be very happy.
But in the meantime - Key is better than Price. No doubt about it. Key has had years of success, was our best WR last year, etc. etc. etc. Cutting him for a guy who had one good year and nothing before or after would be on par with trading two first round draft picks to Seattle for a WR who had one good year and nothing before or after.
Yes - I made that comparison. A very good one, if you ask me.
Not a fit for Bledsoe could be true. :D But not because Key is lacking .
A receiver running routes underneath in traffic depends a lot on accuracy..even if he is as big and tough as Key and can muscle his man, the ball does have to be closer in the vicinity than Glenn and Price chasing down flyballs.
I trust Key's excellent possession skills will make Bledsoe look better underneath.
Getting rid of him would be senseless because Bill is NOT letting happen here what happened in Buffalo, when the zones got flooded, and the long ball take away.
Price gets signed thats a major change to our WR crew. If that happens don't rule out major flux.....Chance is Price goes elsewhere -
But I have laid out a logical scenario and yet again the band runs themselves into a corner -
How many Ints was Key responsible for with VT forcing? :eek:
CanadianCowboysFan
09-02-2005, 11:09 PM
Explain to me how it is Key's fault that Testaverde threw into triple coverage?
VirusX
09-02-2005, 11:09 PM
Everyone is unimpressed with Keyshawn. Has anyone watched him in preseason back in the day? He looks the same because he doesnt try in preseason he saves it for the season..
Never say never - Price and Glenn starting and Crayton at #3 is a better fit to Bledsoe's game. I read the hate at my thought process. Whatever.....
Key is an aging, injured posession receiver.
Wiiten is Bledsoe's choice. Glenn and Price starting would kick ***.
BigDFan5
09-02-2005, 11:14 PM
This is a cut throat business - Dude is aging, off broken peg. Bust my *** all you want- Parcells is asking this same question.
Price
Glenn
Crayton
Key
Glenn
Crayton
and his answer is:::
Key
Glenn
Crayton
Crown Royal
09-02-2005, 11:15 PM
Never say never - Price and Glenn starting and Crayton at #3 is a better fit to Bledsoe's game. I read the hate at my thought process. Whatever.....
Key is an aging, injured posession receiver.
Wiiten is Bledsoe's choice. Glenn and Price starting would kick ***.
Key is a good choice for ANYONE'S GAME. If a QB can't look for him on a slant against a 5'10" CB and have success, that QB has some SERIOUS problems.
Of course, I guess that 'burner' Eric Moulds wasn't good for Bledsoe's game, either.
notherbob
09-02-2005, 11:15 PM
Soooo we cut our best blocking WR for a WR who was cut for refusing to block. Hmm.
Quickly - I am a guy who has been pulling for Crayton since his ROOKIE TC, but I have no problem with signing Price. Now, I don't want him for too much $$$, but for the right price, I would be very happy.
But in the meantime - Key is better than Price. No doubt about it. Key has had years of success, was our best WR last year, etc. etc. etc. Cutting him for a guy who had one good year and nothing before or after would be on par with trading two first round draft picks to Seattle for a WR who had one good year and nothing before or after.
Yes - I made that comparison. A very good one, if you ask me.
Well said, fully agree.
silverbear
09-02-2005, 11:15 PM
This is a cut throat business - Dude is aging, off broken peg. Bust my *** all you want- Parcells is asking this same question.
Once again, you claim to know what Parcells is thinking...
Do you even realize how comically arrogant that is??
big dog cowboy
09-02-2005, 11:15 PM
Price starting would kick ***.
Just ask Atlanta.
jobberone
09-02-2005, 11:17 PM
Everyone is unimpressed with Keyshawn. Has anyone watched him in preseason back in the day? He looks the same because he doesnt try in preseason he saves it for the season..
I impressed with him. He has not been showcased at all. He will become more of a target as well as Glenn when the games count.
Cutting Keyshawn is ridiculous and another brazen prediction prosposed for sensationalism rather than grounded in reality.
Once again, you claim to know what Parcells is thinking...
Do you even realize how comically arrogant that is??
It would be clueless to not question why Price is in Dallas with JJ and negotiating a deal.
He confirmed my thoughts at PC - called Price a player. Price has met with Bellicheck and Saban to date.
Yes I'm the clown Silver - have a great Labor day weekend!
BigDFan5
09-02-2005, 11:22 PM
It would be clueless to not question why Price is in Dallas with JJ and negotiating a deal.
He confirmed my thoughts at PC - called Price a player. Price has met with Bellicheck and Saban to date.
Yes I'm the clown Silver - have a great Labor day weekend!
Why was he in NE, and Miami, and going to a few other teams to negotiate?
Cuz he's a stud #2 WR.
Man this flies over some - that takes PT away from someone.
The kneejerk was reps from underdog "Crayton" when its really Key.....
Fletch
09-02-2005, 11:33 PM
Cuz he's a stud #2 WR.
Man this flies over some - that takes PT away from someone.
The kneejerk was reps from underdog "Crayton" when its really Key.....
I doubt Key is losing any sleep over fear of being replaced by someone like Peerless Price. It's not even an issue. And Jones and Parcells are not letting Keyshawn Johnson go anytime soon. I can promise you that.
BigDFan5
09-02-2005, 11:37 PM
Cuz he's a stud #2 WR.
Man this flies over some - that takes PT away from someone.
The kneejerk was reps from underdog "Crayton" when its really Key.....
First of all PP isn't a "stud" anything he is a servicable #3
Second No he wouldn't take any time from Key. His skill sets are totally opposite of Keys and Key is very good at what he does which is what Bill wants done (Blocking downfield, going over middle)
How many #3's have 1250 yard 95 catch seasons....
CIWhitefish
09-02-2005, 11:51 PM
How many #3's have 1250 yard 95 catch seasons....
One year. What has he done since? Kurt Warner used to be good too. Used to be....
Man and I thought you were gonna report a Quincy Morgan for T.O. trade.
BigDFan5
09-02-2005, 11:53 PM
How many #3's have 1250 yard 95 catch seasons....
Nice try but he was not #3 that season here he wouldn't start but to answer your question
Brandon Stokley 1077 yards and 10 TDs
Just one off top of my head
smashmouth
09-03-2005, 12:32 AM
Normally I agree with Nors but not this time.
Speed is not the #1 thing you need to be a great receiver unless you're R.Moss.
Now he's not going to catch 95 passes or anything, but he is still quick in his breaks- He is a reliable pass catcher (rarely drops the ball even on hard hits,that's rare)
He is also a threat for a fade inside the 10 yard line.
And is one of the best blocking WR's in the game.
Not to mention he's a leader type, we need Key until we find a ligit number 1 WR, and that won't be this year.
Crown Royal
09-03-2005, 02:17 AM
How many #3's have 1250 yard 95 catch seasons....
How many studs only do it once?
DeWare94
09-03-2005, 04:26 AM
did anybody see when Keyshawn threw the ball at the jags player?
Chrissyboy
09-03-2005, 05:43 AM
I often enjoy reading Nors posts - and value him as much as anyone on this board....
But sorry Nors, this is just never going to happen. Keyshawn is far more valuable than a lot of people give him credit for.
For the record, I still don't see any real point in loading up a big contract for PP as we already have 3 decent receivers, a 4th who has also had 1 very good season....AND.... the coverage teams are not going to gain much from this.
Thanks for throwing ideas out, creating streams of replies....etc
Martice
09-03-2005, 05:53 AM
As BigDFan5 said earlier. If Key is gone, who's going across the middle? Not Glenn, Not Crayton (he may not be built for that and we don't know his level of toughness) and not PP either.
In a 4 receiver set, PP, TG, KJ and Crayton would be a formidable set of receivers.
burmafrd
09-03-2005, 06:38 AM
Price is just Galloway Part Deux.
Nors was tippling again at the stupid fountain.
Trophy#6
09-03-2005, 07:31 AM
I'm saying it again, if anyone is in jeopardy of losing their spot in the starting rotation from a signing like this, it's Glenn, period. The players who can contribute for a 16 game season and that Parcells can trust to do that are the one's he's going to play...Glenn can not be trusted enough to be healthy come Nov-Dec, let alone January. He was a nice option when there was nothing better, but Price could and will uproot Glenn from the starting rotation if signed, and he'll do it rather easily I predict. I realize most of Terry's Boyfriends don't like to hear talk like this, but it's the closest thing based in reality this thread knows. Heck, if Bryant hadn't been such a headcase, he would've eventually pushed Glenn down to #3 too. The guy is a stopgap player until we find someone better- Key was phase one last year of finding those suitable replacements. Price could be the second. And what is Glenn, a little better, possibly, then Galloway- maybe? IMO he was alot faster, might not have thrown himself on the line as much as he should during games, but atleast he was playing most the time- the same can not be said about Glenn. Sure he gives us 110% while on that field, just too bad he only can last roughly about 50% of a season. 110 + 50 = Half- and not worth the stress of wondering when that dreadful injury game comes.
Put Glenn at #3 and god willing, we may see him in December actually. Or what the hay, keep Glenn the starter, by November he'll go down and Price will then assume the #2 role. Either way, it is coming.
To start the season...
Key
Terry
Price
Crayton
To finish the season...
Key
Price
Crayton
Copper
Glenn (Injured reserve)
2006 Starting Rotation (From Game 1)
Price
Key
Crayton
Free Agent
Rookie (Low round, Parcells project)
Cheap Shot Artist
09-03-2005, 07:41 AM
Sign Price
Keep Crayton in top 3 mix.
Morgan steps up at #4.
And we cut Key? Aging, no speed and not a fit with Drew (Bledsoe)....
Nors..I have thought about this myself and as far out as that idea may have sounded even going into camp, this potential move wouldnt come as an utter shock---although I dont think it would be now
From a size standpoint--well--look at the NE's WR corp and then look at Parcells WR's from his team's that have gone ito SB's in '86, '90 and '96
The theme from all Parcells teams was a dominant TE
I'd feel fine with Price, Glenn and Crayton as my top 3 and Morgan as our 4th
Cheap Shot Artist
09-03-2005, 07:42 AM
Price is just Galloway Part Deux.
Nors was tippling again at the stupid fountain.
No
Price can do a heck of a lot more than run a fly pattern and drop passes in traffic
Cheap Shot Artist
09-03-2005, 07:47 AM
Nice try but he was not #3 that season here he wouldn't start but to answer your question
Brandon Stokley 1077 yards and 10 TDs
Just one off top of my head
The Colts are an anomaly
Taking stats from perhaps the best offensive unit in NFL history who's QB, RB and WR have been together since '99
Come on..
Sarge
09-03-2005, 07:55 AM
Throw enough crap against the wall and sooner or later something will stick I suppose.....
...been saying that for a very long time.
;)
JackMagist
09-03-2005, 07:55 AM
Boy this is a good one to wake up to first thing in the morning. I do believe that you have outdone yourself Nors.
Keyshawn is a Parcells guy and they are NOT going to keep Morgan over Keyshawn at any rate. Price is not the possession receiver that Key is and does not bring a lot of the lunch pale ethics that Key does with his blocking downfield. I don't know exactly where Price will fit in but it won't be taking Keyshawn's starting spot.
LaTunaNostra
09-03-2005, 07:57 AM
I'm saying it again, if anyone is in jeopardy of losing their spot in the starting rotation from a signing like this, it's Glenn, period. The players who can contribute for a 16 game season and that Parcells can trust to do that are the one's he's going to play...Glenn can not be trusted enough to be healthy come Nov-Dec, let alone January. He was a nice option when there was nothing better, but Price could and will uproot Glenn from the starting rotation if signed, and he'll do it rather easily I predict. I realize most of Terry's Boyfriends don't like to hear talk like this, but it's the closest thing based in reality this thread knows. Heck, if Bryant hadn't been such a headcase, he would've eventually pushed Glenn down to #3 too. The guy is a stopgap player until we find someone better- Key was phase one last year of finding those suitable replacements. Price could be the second. And what is Glenn, a little better, possibly, then Galloway- maybe? IMO he was alot faster, might not have thrown himself on the line as much as he should during games, but atleast he was playing most the time- the same can not be said about Glenn. Sure he gives us 110% while on that field, just too bad he only can last roughly about 50% of a season. 110 + 50 = Half- and not worth the stress of wondering when that dreadful injury game comes.
Put Glenn at #3 and god willing, we may see him in December actually. Or what the hay, keep Glenn the starter, by November he'll go down and Price will then assume the #2 role. Either way, it is coming.
To start the season...
Key
Terry
Price
Crayton
To finish the season...
Key
Price
Crayton
Copper
Glenn (Injured reserve)
2006 Starting Rotation (From Game 1)
Price
Key
Crayton
Free Agent
Rookie (Low round, Parcells project)
Tell me something. :laugh2:
Are you actually serious with all this, or just one of Terry's "Boyfriends" too ?
Sarge
09-03-2005, 08:02 AM
Keyshawn is a Parcells guy and they are NOT going to keep Morgan over Keyshawn at any rate.
Nuff said.......
Smith22
09-03-2005, 08:04 AM
...been saying that for a very long time.
;)
I hear ya.:sarge:
Sarge
09-03-2005, 08:06 AM
I hear ya.:sarge:
Morning Smitty.
:)
Although I think its a stupid idea, I am puzzled by those who say parcells won't cut key because he is his guy. Parcells traded Keyshawn once before you know. However, if we cut Key, we lose our only guy who will go over the middle. Glenn has shown he isn't scared to do it, but his body just wouldn't take it.
Price is just Galloway Part Deux.
Nors was tippling again at the stupid fountain.
tremendous post. Insighfull and well thought out. You must be awfull proud of yourself.
All these type discussions are going on in Valley Ranch. ALL positions are being scrutinized!
Key probably stays but I put out an option to add Price, AND KEEP Crayton on the field.
Have a great day.
I often enjoy reading Nors posts - and value him as much as anyone on this board....
But sorry Nors, this is just never going to happen. Keyshawn is far more valuable than a lot of people give him credit for.
For the record, I still don't see any real point in loading up a big contract for PP as we already have 3 decent receivers, a 4th who has also had 1 very good season....AND.... the coverage teams are not going to gain much from this.
Thanks for throwing ideas out, creating streams of replies....etc
Good post - you probably are right. I actually like Key a lot. But "if" injury and age start to erode his skills Parcells will make the move. Crayton and Price - may be a better fit for our offense. VT jammed the ball a lot at Key. But of his 20 picks were a result of that? A lot
He traded Key at Jets.
Avery
09-03-2005, 09:25 AM
I have a great idea.
How about we keep Key, Glenn, Crayton and add Price to give us a competent receiving crew?
Anyone think of that?
If you want to throw a great downfield blocking WR and someone who isn't afraid to go over the middle over a guy with no hands and no heart or someone who excels on special teams but not on offense, be my guest. Personally, I take the best players and put them on the field.
I think it's time to ditch the notion of some 'Whoa, can't believe he was cut' because, just maybe, he's not quite as old as we thought and just might have more use than a rookie who may never see the light of day. The same philosophy holds true for Singleton as well.
Cbz40
09-03-2005, 09:35 AM
I have a great idea.
How about we keep Key, Glenn, Crayton and add Price to give us a competent receiving crew?
Anyone think of that?
If you want to throw a great downfield blocking WR and someone who isn't afraid to go over the middle over a guy with no hands and no heart or someone who excels on special teams but not on offense, be my guest. Personally, I take the best players and put them on the field.
I think it's time to ditch the notion of some 'Whoa, can't believe he was cut' because, just maybe, he's not quite as old as we thought and just might have more use than a rookie who may never see the light of day. The same philosophy holds true for Singleton as well.
You're right that's a great idea. ;)
smashmouth
09-03-2005, 10:34 AM
I'm saying it again, if anyone is in jeopardy of losing their spot in the starting rotation from a signing like this, it's Glenn, period. The players who can contribute for a 16 game season and that Parcells can trust to do that are the one's he's going to play...Glenn can not be trusted enough to be healthy come Nov-Dec, let alone January. He was a nice option when there was nothing better, but Price could and will uproot Glenn from the starting rotation if signed, and he'll do it rather easily I predict. I realize most of Terry's Boyfriends don't like to hear talk like this, but it's the closest thing based in reality this thread knows. Heck, if Bryant hadn't been such a headcase, he would've eventually pushed Glenn down to #3 too. The guy is a stopgap player until we find someone better- Key was phase one last year of finding those suitable replacements. Price could be the second. And what is Glenn, a little better, possibly, then Galloway- maybe? IMO he was alot faster, might not have thrown himself on the line as much as he should during games, but atleast he was playing most the time- the same can not be said about Glenn. Sure he gives us 110% while on that field, just too bad he only can last roughly about 50% of a season. 110 + 50 = Half- and not worth the stress of wondering when that dreadful injury game comes.
Put Glenn at #3 and god willing, we may see him in December actually. Or what the hay, keep Glenn the starter, by November he'll go down and Price will then assume the #2 role. Either way, it is coming.
To start the season...
Key
Terry
Price
Crayton
To finish the season...
Key
Price
Crayton
Copper
Glenn (Injured reserve)
2006 Starting Rotation (From Game 1)
Price
Key
Crayton
Free Agent
Rookie (Low round, Parcells project)I hate to say this - but if Glenn is moved to #3 or 4, this season is over.
IMO, Glenn is the best receiver we have right now
The guy misses no passes period - He get's opened on a regular basis - never complains and just works his butt off.
He does seem to get injured often, but when he's there and if he's on your team, you have to play him.
RoysAHitta
09-03-2005, 10:44 AM
keyshawn isnt a #1 wr anymore guys, face it. the guy isn't a threat to any defense, they dont game plan around him. everyone says what a good blocker he is, but thats simply cause he doesnt have the speed to pull the cb that far down the field. keyshawn should be our #3, not #1. put glenn and price on the sidelines and let key work the middle of the field.. that would be the best way to use him.
LaTunaNostra
09-03-2005, 11:01 AM
I hate to say this - but if Glenn is moved to #3 or 4, this season is over.
IMO, Glenn is the best receiver we have right now
The guy misses no passes period - He get's opened on a regular basis - never complains and just works his butt off.
He does seem to get injured often, but when he's there and if he's on your team, you have to play him.
;) Forget it, this guy has gone on record as saying he resents T taking AB's "rightful place".
He runs Terry down in every post he writes. His saving grace is he's usually flat out hilarious doing it. 'Scarecrow', 'rag doll', "Teresita' ...this guy is on a freaking crusade. LOL
Last year T had the most serious injury of his career- the first time he has gone on IR. I don't think even the broken clavicle in NE got him there.
Yes, he's been 'injury prone', and yes he has missed a lot of time, but he has also proven he now plays with pain and assorted injuries. He did so in GB as well.
Terry, just like Dan, was unfortunate enough to have caught the big one last year - leading to IR. And continually bashing a player for something beyond his control is the epitome of nonsense.
Had T missed time on his bursitis, ankle injury, broken finger, or any of the other assorted bumps and bruises all players suffer and that he HAS played thru here, I'd be worried, because he once was a player who let hammies take him out for weeks.
But he no longer is that player - he plays thru pain and 2003 is more an indication of what we will get from Terry, imho, than 2004, when a foot ligament snapped, as it did for DC.
He won't get taken out by anything but an IR level injury...and why he should take the constant beating he does here for that piece of BAD LUCK he suffered last year, is way beyond my powers of comprehension.
He could suffer the double whammy, of course. Could go out on an MCL on opening day. But that has not been his injury history. It's been the nagging things he now plays with and thru.
I hope to hell the man never stops in at this board and reads this incredible refrain, day after day after day that he cannot be trusted as a Dallas Cowboy.....he's loaded with enough guilt over that injury last year, apologizing to KJ all over the place, feeling guilty over picking up his paycheck, explaining how he knows how his absence affected the O and entire team. He's about as beaten a dog here as you'll see on a rival team forum, and I have to suspect a lot of it is what motivates this guy -resentment over AB.
I don't care that he's my favorite player or not, this could be about anyone, and I'd feel the lack of trust and faith in the player is just not right. The mantra has become like a death wish, and I predict the "I told you so's" if he's unlucky enough to get hurt again will plunge to a new depth of sports board hate.
smashmouth
09-03-2005, 11:14 AM
;) Forget it, this guy has gone on record as saying he resents T taking AB's "rightful place".
He runs Terry down in every post he writes. His saving grace is he's usually flat out hilarious doing it. 'Scarecrow', 'rag doll', "Teresita' ...this guy is on a freaking crusade. LOL
Last year T had the most serious injury of his career- the first time he has gone on IR. I don't think even the broken clavicle in NE got him there.
Yes, he's been 'injury prone', and yes he has missed a lot of time, but he has also proven he now plays with pain and assorted injuries. He did so in GB as well.
Terry, just like Dan, was unfortunate enough to have caught the big one last year - leading to IR. And continually bashing a player for something beyond his control is the epitome of nonsense.
Had T missed time on his bursitis, ankle injury, broken finger, or any of the other assorted bumps and bruises all players suffer and that he HAS played thru here, I'd be worried, because he once was a player who let hammies take him out for weeks.
But he no longer is that player - he plays thru pain and 2003 is more an indication of what we will get from Terry, imho, than 2004, when a foot ligament snapped, as it did for DC.
He won't get taken out by anything but an IR level injury...and why he should take the constant beating he does here for that piece of BAD LUCK he suffered last year, is way beyond my powers of comprehension.
He could suffer the double whammy, of course. Could go out on an MCL on opening day. But that has not been his injury history. It's been the nagging things he now plays with and thru.
I hope to hell the man never stops in at this board and reads this incredible refrain, day after day after day that he cannot be trusted as a Dallas Cowboy.....he's loaded with enough guilt over that injury last year, apologizing to KJ all over the place, feeling guilty over picking up his paycheck, explaining how he knows how his absence affected the O and entire team. He's about as beaten a dog here as you'll see on a rival team forum, and I have to suspect a lot of it is what motivates this guy -resentment over AB.
I don't care that he's my favorite player or not, this could be about anyone, and I'd feel the lack of trust and faith in the player is just not right. The mantra has become like a death wish, and I predict the "I told you so's" if he's unlucky enough to get hurt again will plunge to a new depth of sports board hate.You should be a sports writer and take over for Cowlishaw 'or however you spell is weird name'
LeonDixson
09-03-2005, 11:23 AM
You should be a sports writer and take over for Cowlishaw 'or however you spell is weird name'
It's "Cowlickshat"
Erik_H
09-03-2005, 11:35 AM
Once again, you claim to know what Parcells is thinking...
Do you even realize how comically arrogant that is??
But you'll notice, Silverbear, that this thread has already gone into it's 2nd page.
Nors is undoubtably comically arrogant and make things up with little to no basis in fact in order to get a reaction, but he's very successful at it on this board.
LaTunaNostra
09-03-2005, 11:37 AM
You should be a sports writer and take over for Cowlishaw 'or however you spell is weird name'
I'll settle for being TG's "boyfriend" here. ;)
We're all justifiably concerned about injury to starters...my particular worry is Drew Bledsoe.
But it's the FO and coaching staff's responsibility to provide adequate depth at every position..if we don't have it, it's on them, not the player. I really think you never go as far as to sign a player solely as 'insurance'...getting Price in here to ride pine only because a TG injury is 'inevitable" is a ludicrous approach to utilizing a 53 man work force.
Price should be signed, if he is, for how he can improve the offense, diversify it and give Bledsoe more options and weapons, for how a true wo rotation could benefit all the receivers ...he is not your typical seldom on the field, 4th down depth, specials fodder. In ADDITION, he would be 'depth'. But if Terry Glenn is so untrustworthy that you need to use two roster spots on him, and keep a Price level player hanging around because one can't stay healthy, he needs to be released. Seriously.
We, or many of us anyway, saw Jason Ferguson as "Mr. Irreplacable" ths season. And guess what, he's not. Glover might not be a full time 3-4 nose, and adjustments to the time we'd be in 3-4 would have to be made, but this season does not hinge on Jason Ferguson. No player is irreplacable...a spate of injuries to key personnel can and do bring any team down, but no one player's injury should be so threatening a possibility, it incites such angst.
TG's injury last year was BIG, but a D that gave up over 400 points was so much bigger. Before bashing him for his bad luck or continually bringing it up, and even worse, predicting it is 'inevitable' again, I wish some folks would keep that mind..unless of course, no pass rush, a revolving door at cb, and Tony Dixon angles were T's fault too.
Hopefully, we are going to be in better position to survive critical injuries this year. Look at the blasted Pats and how they deal with losing a Law AND a Poole. Now that we have better depth, hopefully we can live in less fear.
I'm off my soap box...till another few weeks of the same old same old gets me back on it again.. ;)
smashmouth
09-03-2005, 12:02 PM
I'll settle for being TG's "boyfriend" here. ;)
A little bit confusing for me there.
I agree we need to pick up Price, but only if the price is right. (No pun intended)
We see that Crayton has the skills to play in this league, now we need to work on getting him ready to be a starter now.
I don't mean make him a starter, but we need to get his mind-frame into a starter mentality role.
We still do need to get Price, but I don't think we should burn 5 or 6 years on someone just because he's the 'best available athlete' right now.
LaTunaNostra
09-03-2005, 12:21 PM
A little bit confusing for me there
"Terry's boyfriend's" are how Trophy # 6 refers to any poster who
comes to 'her' defense'. ;) Here, that would definitely make her monogamous.
I agree we need to pick up Price, but only if the price is right.
The price seems to be very right at one mil, one year contract. If he signs that, it will mean the competetion for him was not a intense as thought here.
Frankly, I'd have seen it as low balling just a few days ago, but it may be the reality of how he's viewed just now.
We see that Crayton has the skills to play in this league, now we need to work on getting him ready to be a starter now
JJ maintaned that is a priority when he said nothing can be done to upset Crayton's development, and I think most of us are down with that.
We still do need to get Price, but I don't think we should burn 5 or 6 years on someone just because he's the 'best available athlete' right now.
Evidently, the brain trust doesn't either.
Yeagermeister
09-03-2005, 12:48 PM
Nors did you eat paint chips as a kid? ;)
No way Parcells cuts his boy Key
Nors did you eat paint chips as a kid? ;)
No way Parcells cuts his boy Key
Ah Parcells -
He moved his boy in the past and if he can upgrade team he'll do it.
Yeagermeister
09-03-2005, 12:55 PM
Ah Parcells -
He moved his boy in the past and if he can upgrade team he'll do it.
He also traded to get him back
Wolverine
09-03-2005, 02:44 PM
Sign Price
Keep Crayton in top 3 mix.
Morgan steps up at #4.
And we cut Key? Aging, no speed and not a fit with Drew (Bledsoe)....
Sounds like the same things last year. And even while playing with a bad knee Key still nearly got 1000 yards and 6 TD catches.
Key is a proven player. He will make tough catches. He knows how to get open. Not a deep threat at all but he can move chains.
I like Crayton but he has not proven himself against top players like Key has.
I would rather have a proven WR to take Keys place before we get rid of him.
jazzcat22
09-03-2005, 06:18 PM
Throw enough crap against the wall and sooner or later something will stick I suppose.....
Not when it is Diarrhea :D
Not when it is Diarrhea :D
At least I have a proactive OPINION.
And you sit back and insult, cherry pick a post like that?
Weak
wesleyc288
09-03-2005, 08:47 PM
Why Cut KEY??? the guy is a solid wr, whats so wrong about depth at a skill position?? can anyone awnser that ? if u look at the pats, they rotate wr's like crazy on and off the field, Y?? because they have depth at the wr position. I believe you have to have a guy like Key to be our possesion reciever. All he does is make it easier for price, glenn, and crayton to stretch the field. not to menchine, he is one of the best blocking recievers in the league. I dont understand y you guys want him cut, WE COULD USE THE DEPTH! Besides, what happens if we do cut key and then TG goes down like last year. ill tell you what happens, WE ARE SCREWED
Yes - I'm stoked with Price add, keep Key and pare Als at OLB. Fujita trade a steal....
We are there!
SuspectCorner
09-03-2005, 08:55 PM
Nors. some of your opinions are insightful. some are intriguing. and some are just kinda kooky.
but this time your being a horse's patoot.
keyshawn brings the kinda toughness to the WR position we haven't witnessed since michael irvin.
check yourself buddy. you're way outta line here.
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